I've "rescued" an old photograph of Bobby ARTHUR which was taken at the J. W. Byam Studio in Ellendale, ND in the 1890's when Bobby was just an infant. Bobby is identified as "Alex's boy" and "buried in the cemetery here in ND". Based on limited research I believe Bobby's father was Alexander D. ARTHUR and have gathered the following information regarding Bobby and his family: Robert "Bobby" G. ARTHUR was b. 20 Jan 1893 and died 26 Apr 1907 and is buried in the Ellendale City Cemetery in Ellendale, ND. His father was Alexander Daniel ARTHUR b. 1860 to Robert C. ARTHUR (1832-1896) and Nancy DOWNEY (1839-1919). Alexander was one of 7 children born to this couple including, Clara E.; Alexander Daniel; Major A.; Frank H.; Elmer B.; Maggie; and Loyal ARTHUR all born between 1859 and 1878. Alexander married Carrie WIDMAN. Census records provide the following details: 1900 census of Ada, ND: Alexander D. ARTHUR, age 40, born Dec 1859, married 13 years, born MI, parents born NJ/MI, a Farmer Carrie ARTHUR, wife, age 36, born Jan 1864, married 13 years, 3 children/3 living, born MI, parents born Germany Nannie M. ARTHUR, dau, age 13, born Aug 1887, born ND, at School Alta M. ARTHUR, dau, age 12, born Nov 1888, born ND, at School Robert A. G. ARTHUR, son, age 7, born Jan 1893, born ND, at School I am hoping to locate someone from this family so that the photograph can be returned to your care. If you are a member of this family, or you know someone who might be, please contact me. Thanks, Shelley

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This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ctbeary7787 Surnames: Hayden Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.widmann/77/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Looking for information on James Harold Hayden born 1939 in Kentucky. And also on his mother Hiwatha (Mary T, Henrietta) Hayden. Thanks! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: diwitman Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.widmann/46.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: It's a long shot, but I have an ancestor by the name of Johann Widmann (John Witman), whom was born May 1855 in Pennsylvania. I've included his baptism record. He seems to have disappeared for me after the 1870 census, but maybe it's because I have not been searching for the surname Widmann? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

no he isn't mine, my early ones were born around Pittsburgh, I will keep an eye out for him though, apparently the Widmann family hid alot ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2014 3:50 PM Subject: Re: [WIDMANN] Johann (John) Widmann/Christine Nagy > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: diwitman > Surnames: > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.widmann/46.1/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > It's a long shot, but I have an ancestor by the name of Johann Widmann > (John Witman), whom was born May 1855 in Pennsylvania. I've included his > baptism record. He seems to have disappeared for me after the 1870 census, > but maybe it's because I have not been searching for the surname Widmann? > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > above and respond on the board. > > <br> > > > ==== WIDMANN Mailing List ==== > [email protected] > > To contact the List Administrator: > Rick Berkheiser, [email protected] > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: David_Sautter Surnames: Widmann Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.widmann/76/mb.ashx Message Board Post: August WIDMANN, born 6 July 1843, immigrated to US with his parents from Endingen, Württemberg, in 1844. His father was Georg Widmann, born 6 August 1813 - mother, Anna Elisabetha born 16 Aug 1820. I have not been able to identify this family in America and seek assistance. Many thanks. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: inselpfarrer Surnames: WIDMANN, HENN, Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.widmann/75/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Several emigrated: Johann Stephan *28. Jan. 1827 Christian *07. Sep. 1829 Johann Christoph *15. Jan. 1847 em. 01. March 1872 with wife Anna HENN from Bellingen Christian *09.June 1848 [emigr. 1867 New York] Christoph *28. Nov. 1852 [emigr. 1871] Tobias *13 May 1859 [emigr. 1880] 1895 Caroline *28. Oct. 1865, twin, [emigr. 1880] Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: t42Vietnam_ParkerCoTX Surnames: WIDMANN Classification: military Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.widmann/74/mb.ashx Message Board Post: WIDMANN Raymond - Vietnam Wall section 8E Honor our Veterans. This is one of many photographs of the Vietnam Memorial Wall in Parker Co, TX. Feel free to use this picture for your personal records. This is one of the 227,290 photos free at http://teafor2.com where they are listed in order by state(Texas), county(Parker), cemetery(Vietnam) and Surname. If you know more about this person please reply here instead of contacting me because this is not my family. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: cwellhoff551 Surnames: WOELLHAF Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.widmann/44.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello Derek, Just came accross your request of 2002. Better now than Never.Jakob, actually born Johann Jakob Left what is now Ukraine, traveled to Antwerp Belgium and boarded the "MONTREAL" for Quebec. At some point he entered the us on 06/16/1907., possibly while traveling on Lake Erie. He is then found on the ship Lake Michigan and reentering the US on 06/24/1907. Between that date and 05/1912, he is traveling toward ND. I have no record of his travel there and cannot be sure how and when he got there, but one thing is sure: He crossed the border from Canada into Portal ND in May of 1912. Had he been in the area for a while, left and came back... or did in travel over the 5 years through Canada and settled in ND at that time? I do not have the answer. Jakob was the 10th child of a family of 12. His Father was Jakob Woellhaf ("o" with an Umlaout) born in Lichtental on 07/23/1843, who, himself was the oldest son of Gottfried, born on 10/02/1818 in Schnait, WU-Germany and of Christine Tsc! heck born in 1820 in Malojaroslawetz, Ukraine. Gottfried'father was also named Gottfried and was born ca 1795 in Schnait. Schnait is a small village East of Stuttgart in the Wine region, the craddle of the Woellhaff and many other spelling of the same name. I am working on a genealogy project the goes back to 1540, out of the same area and spread worldwide. It is quite interesting. Do not hesitate to contact me if you wish more detail Chris Wellhoff Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: robwid Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.widmann/73/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Widmann: Origin of the name? The work of Cologne University Professor Walter Pfeilsticket needs to be taken into account on this subject. The surname Widmann arose, Pfeilsticker claimed, when a certain Mangolt of Dagersheim, Wuerttemberg was awarded the town Widdemhof, a barn/stable structure, as a fief circa 1300. Those who controlled or managed the income from the Widdemhof were known as Widdemeyer or Widdman. The ancient Daggersheim Widdemhof may still stand and may be viewed on the internet at Zeitriese bb,de/widdemhof. The term "widdemhof" refered originally to a structure where male animals were kept segregated or reserved in order to manage flock or herd size and there is further thought that the root of the term - wid - refers back to the sense of the ram (Widder) as a repeating force/activity as do many other words in the German language having a wid component (wider - contra, against; widerhall - echo, etc.). The term "Widmen" means dedication deriving perhaps from a sense of a prepetual return to an object, activity or frame of mind. In Wuerttemberg of the middle ages, the term Widdemhof had come to mean a farm or farm structures reserved for church use, usually to provide income and support for the church and its pastor. However, in Daggersheim as in many other towns in Wuerttemberg, the Widdemhof referred specifically to a structure used as a place for villagers and for farmers nearby to deposit church tithe (zehntscheuer) obligations: so many measures of wheat, of barley, of hay, etc. But as church pastors became political appointees, the income stream of the tithe barn, the Widdemhof, was often diverted to other village "patriziat" ranked higher than pastor by the King or warlord of the region who made such appointments. This state of affairs and other similar abuses was to lead in 1524 to the Peasants Rebellion, wherein peasant leaders demanded, among other things, a right to choose Church Pastors, and as noted by Frederick Engels, the red flag was to fly for the first time. But it was this Widdemhof in Daggersheim that was awarded by Count Eberhard, Erlaucht, to a certain village mayor named Mangolt as a fief, an income property, that was to be associated with Mangolt's name, first as Widdemaier and then as Widdemann and that became associated as a surname with his offspring and, in turn, with their descendants over the centuries. Professor Pfeilstecker further claims Mangolt Widdemann was an illegitimate son of Count Eberhard and a servant girl, but provides nothing in the way of proof of this. But perhaps this account is so as, over the years, members of the Widmann Clan turn up as oficially favored local leaders: in Ehningen (1525), Hans Widmann presumptive father of Lienhard (1606) is Village Shultheiss, Claus Widmann in Gueltlingen, Konrad and Mangold in Marbach and Steinheim (from which George von Widmann of Eger and Widmann-Sedlntzky family may have emerged). A different derivation than the one above is given by commercial sellers of family crests. Below - purported origin of name, "Widemann, widmann" from HOUSE OF NAMES: The Wideman surname is derived from the Upper German word "weide," meaning "willow." Thus it was most likely a name originally taken on by someone who lived near a willow tree. First found in the Palatinate in the Rhineland valley, where the name was anciently associated with the tribal conflicts of the area.(Would like to know more about this -.RHW) Some of the first settlers of this name or some of its variants were: Johannes Widmann, who came to Philadelphia in 1743; along with Franz Carl in 1772; and Michael Widmann in 1748; Johann Friedrich Widman came to Philadelphia in 1749. www.houseofnames.com /xq/asp/s.Wideman/Origin.GR/sId./qx/coatofarms_details.htm Other sources attribute the name origin to the nordic w(j)d, the (j) being a runic vowel similar to i or u and together the w(j)d being the stem for the english word, wood, hence the name Widmann has as its meaning, woodsman. My note - The 3 grapes cluster motif appearing in many Widmann family crests is exactly the 3 grape cluster arrangement that appears in the coat of arms of the Nekar Valley town of Weinsburg as well as that of Inglostadt and appears in the painting of Carlo Aurelio Widmann, Admiral of the Venetian Fleet, ca. 1798 and in the portrait engraving of Erasmus Widmann ca. 1610. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: robwid Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.widmann/37.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Have you any further information about your Heinrich Widmann? Birthplace, date of birth, parental names, dna, etc? Our Heinrich was born 5/11/1847 in Ehningen, Wuerttemberg (In the area of Boeblingen/Sindlefingen). Family was involved in brewing and cooperage Emmigrated sometime after the Civil War. Sorry for the delay in answering. Robert H Widmann NYC Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

I would need alittle more info, not sure, they are hard to find ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 3:10 PM Subject: Re: [WIDMANN] heinrich widmann > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: imklein > Surnames: > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.widmann/37.1/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > I am looking for Heinrich Widmann also. Born in Germany, was a > brewmaster, 4 children born in Illinois. Sons Frederick George, Harry, > Anna and May. Think he also lived in Pennsylvania. Is he possibly the > one?? > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > above and respond on the board. > > > > ==== WIDMANN Mailing List ==== > [email protected] > > To contact the List Administrator: > Rick Berkheiser, [email protected] > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3055 - Release Date: 08/06/10 14:35:00

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: imklein Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.widmann/37.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am looking for Heinrich Widmann also. Born in Germany, was a brewmaster, 4 children born in Illinois. Sons Frederick George, Harry, Anna and May. Think he also lived in Pennsylvania. Is he possibly the one?? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: robwid Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.widmann/72.4.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Sorry, but not me. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: dimac Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.widmann/72.4/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have a Robert Widmann born in Meadville wouldnt be you would it Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: sdrippe1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.widmann/72.3.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I know that my Widmanns came from Heilbronn, Baden Wuerttemberg, in 1849. Most went to California for the gold rush. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: dimac Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.widmann/72.3.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I've tried everything, just cant get them across the Ocean, all of the older Widmann's in our family are gone, makes it hard especially with all the different spellings Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: robwid Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.widmann/72.3.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Greetings - Always great to get to know another Widmann family group. The key to your search will be to discover the town of origin in Europe for your Widmanns. Then you need to find church records for that town and with this, a chain of ancestry. (The Mormons have these records). Widmanns came to America from hundreds of towns in Europe in the 1800s. Good luck to you! Robert Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: dimac Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.widmann/72.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: My Widmann's were in Perrysville,Allegany Pa, Alfred Carl (born July 13, 1886) moved to Meadville Pa I believe his father was Carl Friedrich Widmann, born July 1863 Now known as Pittsburg's North Side-owned his own barber shop at 1500 Monterey St. 1900Census - 1500 Monterey, Allegheny City, Allegheny Co., PA Widmann, Fred, born July 1863 (36); married 15 years; born Germany; emigrated 1880 and is naturalized; barber Widmann, Elizabeth, wife, born July 1864 (35); has had 4 children, 3 are living; she born PA; parents Germany Child 1: Alfred C., son, born July 1886 (13); born PA Child 2: Leah C., daughter, born April 1891; born PA Child 3: Marie A, daughter, born April 1894; born PA 1910 census Carl Widmann Age: 46 State: PA Color: W Enumeration District: 0211 Birth Place: Germany Visit: 0025 County: Allegheny Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: dimac Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.widmann/72.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: My Widmann's were in Perrysville,Allegany Pa, Alfred Carl (born July 13, 1886) moved to Meadville Pa I believe his father was Carl Friedrich Widmann, born July 1863 Now known as Pittsburg's North Side-owned his own barber shop at 1500 Monterey St. 1900Census - 1500 Monterey, Allegheny City, Allegheny Co., PA Widmann, Fred, born July 1863 (36); married 15 years; born Germany; emigrated 1880 and is naturalized; barber Widmann, Elizabeth, wife, born July 1864 (35); has had 4 children, 3 are living; she born PA; parents Germany Child 1: Alfred C., son, born July 1886 (13); born PA Child 2: Leah C., daughter, born April 1891; born PA Child 3: Marie A, daughter, born April 1894; born PA 1910 census Carl Widmann Age: 46 State: PA Color: W Enumeration District: 0211 Birth Place: Germany Visit: 0025 County: Allegheny Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.