This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jbear1198 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.wisconsin.counties.dane/5774.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I went down to Dane Co. Vital Records today, and here ya go! Vol 274, Pg 1 William E. O'BRIEN 17 Aug 1902- 23 Aug 1961 Died at home, 1328 Dewey, Madison, Dane Co., Wi. Worked for the Railroad COD was Acute Coronary Occlusion Parents were Peter & Julia (LANDERS) O'BRIEN. The informant was Virginia O'Brien He was buried at Ressurection Cemetery on 25 Aug 1961 I went out to Resurrection, and the stone has his inscription as well as Dorothy's name with birth info, no death info of course since she is still living. Vol 95, pg 163 O'BRIEN, Peter James 05 Jul 1862-14 Jan 1943 Died in Madison, Dane Co., Wi. Born in Ireland No info given on his parents COD was accute decompensating heart He was a widow He was buried at Calvery Cemetery on 18 Jan 1943 (Calvery is now called Resurrection) Vol 36, pg 425 O'BRIEN, Mrs. Peter 02 May 1864- 05 Nov 1923 Born in Delaven, Wi. Parents are Patrick and Henrietta (BUTLER) LANDRES They were born in Ireland Lived at 1320 Dewey St. Madison, Dane Co., Wi. Buried at Calvery cemetery, on 07 Nov 1923 COD was pneumonia I will take tombstone pictures for you tommorow (I didn't have it with me today). They are buried right next to some of my rellies, so was very easy to find, lol Erin Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: wjorgenson1 Surnames: Stene Guttu Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.wisconsin.counties.dane/186.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have been piecing together information on Osten Stene and his wife Ronaug. They emigrated from Norway, married on the boat on the way to America and settled in western Minnesota. I see your posting was in 1998 so I wonder if this address is still correct. Please reply and I'll go into more detail Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Leroy_English Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.wisconsin.counties.dane/5748.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks so much for your interest, and especially for your time ! cheers, Le Roy Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: virgil5793 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.wisconsin.counties.dane/5748.1.1.1.1.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am sorry to report that the A.A. Gates is the worng one. Virgil Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: virgil5793 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.wisconsin.counties.dane/5748.1.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am sorry to report that the A.A. Gates is the worng one. Virgil Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jbear1198 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.wisconsin.counties.dane/5775.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Samuel's WWI draft registration index World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918 about Samuel Warren Boyd Name: Samuel Warren Boyd City: Everett County: Snohomish State: Washington Birth Date: 19 Jul 1883 Race: White Roll: 1991537 DraftBoard: 0 His wife is Nellie Boyd He was medium height, medium build, blue eyes and lt brown hair. Source Citation: Year: 1930; Census Place: Whitefish, Flathead, Montana; Roll: 1256; Page: 2B; Enumeration District: 26; Image: 396.0. BOYD, Samuel, head, 46, born in WI.,dad in Ireland, mom in NE. He is a farmer. Nellie, wife, 46, born in Norway, they married at age 31. Source Citation: Year: 1920;Census Place: Whitefish, Flathead, Montana; Roll: T625_971; Page: 4A; Enumeration District: 52; Image: 402. BOYD, Sam W., 35, born in WI., dad born in Ireland, mom in Spain. He was woodsman in the woods Nellie, 35, immigrated in 1886, born in Norway. She was a cook. Samuel's wife Nellie died 01 Nov 1955, and is buried at Whitefish cemetery, Whitefish, Flathead Co., MT. I wonder if Sam is there too? Here is RAOGK, people who do lookups for free (some charge for gas) http://www.raogk.com/montana.htm There are a number of people that do lookups and photos in Flathead Co. Maybe she has an obit? Did Samuel have an obit? 1880, Brookfield, Waukesha Co. BOYD, McNair, 66, Born in Scotland Janette, 35, born in Scotland Edith, 4, born in Wis. 1880 New Berlin, Waukesha Co., BOYD, Janette, 65, born in Scotland A.J., 26, son, born in WI Darma G., dau, 24, born in WI. George W., son, 18, born in WI. 1880 Waukesha, Waukesha Co. BOYD, Christina, 64, born in Scotland Lillie, 21, dau, born in Illinois 1870 New Berlin, Waukesha Co. BOYD, McNair, 56, born in Scotland Sarah, 56, born in Scotland Mary, 21, born in WI. same page is BOYD, James, 56, born in Scotland Jane, 60, born in Ireland John, 20, born in Wi. Jane, 19, born in WI. also in New Berlin BOYD, Thomas, 52, born in Scotland Jeanette, 54, born in Scotland Jeanette, 20, born in Wi. Albert, 16, born in WI. Divina, 13, born in Wi. George, 8, born in WI. In Waukesha, Waukesha Co. BOYD, Robert, 54, born in Scotland. He was a clergyman. Christina, 53, born in Scotland Christina, 21, botn in Canada Jessie, 18, female, born in Canada Anna, 16, female, born in Canada Ida, 14, born in Wi. Lillie, 11, born in Ill. In 1880 census there is a Charles CATTAN, 60, born in Spain Living with him is his sisters Charlotte, 35 and Margaret, 45, both born in Canada. They are on the same page as John BOYD son of James and Jane BOYD of Scotland. I wonder if the lady from spain is a sibling of Charles CATTAN(1880)/CATTON (1870)? I wonder if McNair Boyd and the much younger 2nd wife need to be considered? I will try to look at the history of Waukesha Co., Wi. the next time i am at the historical society, and see if it mentions BOYD's at all..... My brain is spinning, so I am going to take a break for tonight, lol. Erin Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: marthae101 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.wisconsin.counties.dane/5775.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello: All this week, I have been sending off and been receiving new information. Here is what I have collected so far and have been able to verify. Effie's first name is Euphemia. According to her husbands obit in MT. She went by the nic names Effie or Peggy. Her married name was Evans. Effie Maud Boyd married: Howard Earl Evans in Williston, ND. March 22, 1911. My Grandparents married same place March 21, 1912. I was sent a copy of their marriage license. It did not ask where you were born, nor for parents name. So lucked out there. Howard & Effie had the following children: Veronica m: A.C. Gatewood. She died shortly after child birth with her second child. Joseph Dean Evans John Louis Evans Howard Robert Evans Halbert William Evans who died in a tragic accident on: May 31, 1925. I was able to contact one of Effie's grandchildren, who did not know very much, but was able to confirm that my Grandfather Halbert was indeed her brother. His middle name was Patrick. He served in WWI, was sent over to Russia and was part of the "Doughboys". We cannot locate a WWI draft card on him. Mentioned in Howard's obit is Effie's date of death: April 6, 1965. But I cannot locate a grave anywhere there in MT for her. Another puzzle. Also found out thru the Grandson that Effie & Halbert had a brother named Samuel Warren Boyd, I located him in Flathead, MT. He died in 1976. I am trying to locate any surviving family on him now. I asked George if knew of anything that happened to his Grandmother and siblings as children. He said all he was told, something horrible happened. And she refused to talk about it, and warned any of her sibling never to say a word. So everything was hushed up. In every census Effie states: 1910, 1920, 1930. born: CA (it was WI) father: Scotland, mother: Spain. Sam Boyd in all census states: born: WI, father: Scotland, mother: Spain, except in the 1930 census WI same, father: Free State of Ireland, mother: Nebraska. This bugs me. Makes me wonder if he finally found out some information or exactly why the change? We find Halbert in the 1920 census in Kittitas, WA state working in a logging mill. Right after he comes back from WWI. We cannot locate him in 1930, George states, he was living up in Peace River, right above Alberta Canada. Would hunt all winter, canone down to Alberta in Spring to sell pelts. Returned to US in mid to late 30's. This explains alot. Said Effie forced Halbert to buy a farm with her, and to help her raise her children. Some story there. George was really sick when I spoke to him, and recouping for something. I tried to get ahold of him again yesterday, but his wife will not let me speak with him. I do not know how bad things are. I pray it wont get to bad. I still need to learn more info. Another thing to note. We found out that in the 1900 census, in the Jenkins home, Mr. Jenkins died in 1901, hence why she went to the Waite home. George did say last that they put her thru the University of WI, where she obtained her RN license. And Samuel Boyd was said to have been born in Sparta (July 19, 1883), brother to Effie and Halbert. But no one knows what horrible thing happened to the parents that left them orphaned as Effie put it. I would love to find out my GrGrandparents names. I might not like what I find out, but I think I deserve to know the truth. I do not know how to search in WI, as I live in CA. I do not which county I should even look in. Sparta, Dane, Waukeska where that 1900 census was taken? Looks like they moved around alot. Funny thing was, Effie and Halbert never applied for a SSA card nor a drivers license. So therefore never needed a birth certificate. IF any one knows of how I could go about this, without spending a fortune at this point I sure would appreciate it. Due to several upcoming back surgeries and other medical problems I am limited now. I am still trying to find out where and send off for what I know is a sure thing. Many times, I have sent off for things being told they had them, only to recieve a letter back, that they did not have that year. And they kept the check as a research fee. Kind reguards, Martha in CA Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hi, Your John Neilson (Nelson) Luraas (25 Dec 1813-29 May 1890) is a brother of my grt grt grdma Joran Neilsdtr S Luraas. Small world, eh? Do you need any detail? My email address is joycej@nucleus.com Bye for now. Joyce Johnson in Calgary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joyce" <joycej@nucleus.com> To: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com>; <widane@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 2:45 PM Subject: Re: [WIDANE] Nels Johnson> John Nelson Luraas>Orin Nelson Luraas > Hi again, > Sorry, I miss read your question. > I will dig up the data and let you know. Right now I must go out for a > bit. > Bye for now, Joyce > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> > To: <WIDANE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 2:05 PM > Subject: Re: [WIDANE] Nels Johnson> John Nelson Luraas>Orin Nelson Luraas > > >> This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. >> >> Author: tjwitzel >> Surnames: Luras, Rue >> Classification: queries >> >> Message Board URL: >> >> http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.wisconsin.counties.dane/2504.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx >> >> Message Board Post: >> >> we are in the central part of Wisconsin. i get to madison a few times a >> year. i have a brother and sister there. >> >> do you know how your Luras and my Luras are related? >> >> Important Note: >> The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you >> would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link >> above and respond on the board. >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> WIDANE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WIDANE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: tjwitzel Surnames: Luras, Rue Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.wisconsin.counties.dane/2504.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: we are in the central part of Wisconsin. i get to madison a few times a year. i have a brother and sister there. do you know how your Luras and my Luras are related? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jjohnson1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.wisconsin.counties.dane/2504.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello, I, too, am a descendant of Luraas. My grt grt grandfather was Halvor Kittelson N Luraas (1814-1883)and my grt grt grandmother was Joran Neilsdtr S Luraas (1815-1875). The immigrated to Dane County in 1841. Where do you folks live? I have a ton of info. The Luraas' and Rues' and nowshoe were all related. The generally came from Austbygda, Tinn, Telemark. Bye for now, Joyce Johnson Canada Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: tjwitzel Surnames: Johnson Luraas, Rue Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.wisconsin.counties.dane/2504.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: hello! i am a Luraas descendant also. My grt grt grt grand parents were Knute (knud) Johnson (jonsson) Luraas and Gyri Nelsdtr Rue. they came to america presumably with the original Luraas settlers through boston and then milwaukee then to the muskego area around wind lake, WI in May of 1839 on the ship Venice. they were originally fron Tinn, Telemark. they moved up to winnebago county in about 1847 and settled in the town of clayton. in the records that i have from the church where they are burried, it mentions that Knute was a cousin to the famous rosemalers and violin makers from Norway and that his wife Gyri was a cousin to Snowshoe Thompson a famous skier. maybe we share a common ancestor? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hi again, Sorry, I miss read your question. I will dig up the data and let you know. Right now I must go out for a bit. Bye for now, Joyce ----- Original Message ----- From: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> To: <WIDANE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 2:05 PM Subject: Re: [WIDANE] Nels Johnson> John Nelson Luraas>Orin Nelson Luraas > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: tjwitzel > Surnames: Luras, Rue > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.wisconsin.counties.dane/2504.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > we are in the central part of Wisconsin. i get to madison a few times a > year. i have a brother and sister there. > > do you know how your Luras and my Luras are related? > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > above and respond on the board. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WIDANE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

hi, yes, Joran married her uncle Halvor. surprise. Joyce ----- Original Message ----- From: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> To: <WIDANE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 2:05 PM Subject: Re: [WIDANE] Nels Johnson> John Nelson Luraas>Orin Nelson Luraas > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: tjwitzel > Surnames: Luras, Rue > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.wisconsin.counties.dane/2504.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > we are in the central part of Wisconsin. i get to madison a few times a > year. i have a brother and sister there. > > do you know how your Luras and my Luras are related? > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > above and respond on the board. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WIDANE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: mnjripp Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.wisconsin.counties.dane/1958.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: i have a obit card with picture for a Mathias Nov. 11, 1862- Mar. 3, 1944. Is he yours? Judy Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: virgil5793 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.wisconsin.counties.dane/5776.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am assuming that you are looking for Catholic Cemeteries. There are St. Michael's, Dane, St. Norbert's Roxbury, St. Peter's, Ashton, Springfield Twp. and St. Martin's Martinsville, Springfield Twp. I have cemetery inscriptions for St. Norbert's and St. Peter's and they aren't listed there. Email me at vmatz@tds.net with more info and I'' see if I can be of more help. Virgil Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jbear1198 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.wisconsin.counties.dane/5775.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: This is a longshot, but have you looked at the NORTON family in Columbia Co., Wi.? 1900 Census, Poynette, Columbia Co., Wi. NORTON, Ada, head, born Mar 1848 in Wi. Maurice, son, born May 1870 in Wi. Maud, dau, born Feb 1875 in Wi. Sadie, dau, born Apr 1877 in WI. Ethel, dau, born May1881 in Wi. Helen, dau, born Jul 1885 in Wi. Halbert, grandson, born Aug 1889 in Wi. Now this Halbert is listed as Halbert Norton, but he is the right age, and Ada has a daughter Maud..... This family in 1880 Census. Poynette, Columbia Co., Wi. NORTON, Eli, 40, blacksmith, born in OH. Ada, wife, 32, born in Wi. Halbert A., 13, son, born in Wi. Harry E., 12, son, born in Wi. Maurice E., 10, son, born in WI. Ione A., 7 0r 9, dau, born in Wi. Maude, 5, dau, born in Wi. Sara E. 3, born in Wi. 1870 census Dekorra, Columbia Co., Wi. NORTON, Eli, 30, blacksmith, born in OH. Ada, 22, born in Wi. Halbert, 3 Harry, 2 Unammed, born May 1880 Eli married Jane Ida Ingraham 22 Feb 1866 in Columbia Co., Wi. Wisconsin Deaths, 1820-1907 about Eli Norton Name: Eli Norton Death Date: 24 Apr 1890 County: Columbia Volume: 01 Page #: 0213 Reel: 011 Image: 2173 Index Volume: - ImageNum: 103859 Sequence #: 280366 Level Info: Wisconsin Vital Records Death Index. Eli's wife name is listed as Ione A. NORTON on the civil war pension index Like I said, just a thought. Erin Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Yes, Dane has a cemetery, St Michael's Catholic Church cemetery.? There are also cemeteries in Ashton and Martinsville.? -----Original Message----- From: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> To: WIDANE-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 8:59 pm Subject: [WIDANE] Springfield Corners Cemeteries This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Kayellenfleming Surnames: HRUBY, HILDEBRANDT Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.wisconsin.counties.dane/5776/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I would like to find out which cemeteries are closest to Springfield Corners. Also, does Dane have a cemetery? Am looking for HRUBY family burials as well as Mary Hruby Hildebrandt. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WIDANE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jbear1198 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.wisconsin.counties.dane/5775.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Can you give us a bit more info? Approximate years of birth(If you dont have exact), who they married, when and where, where they died? That would help the search. While waiting for that info.... There was a BOYD born 28 Aug 1887 in Dane Co., Wi. (No first name given)(Could that be Effie?) I see on online tree for a Halbert Boyd who married Anna Florence Allen 21 Mar 1912 in Williston, Williams Co., N.D. I am assuming given the census location that is your Halbert? The marriage record might have his parents, it looks like they filed for divorce 16 Nov 1916 in Williston, S. D., probably some good stuff there! 1900 Census, Pewaukee, Waukesha Co., Wi. BOYD, Effie Maud, ward, born Feb 1887 in Wi. 1905 state census, Madison, Dane Co., Wi. WAITE, Brevet D.49, born in Wi. Jennie, 40, born in PA BOYD,Effie, 18, ward, born in Wi. Maurice, 15, Son (??), born in WI.(Is he really Maurice WAITE?) EBERT, Bernice J., 13, niece 1910 Census, Williston, Williams Co., N.D. BOYD, Effie, nurse, 22, born in Ca., dad born in Scotland, mom born in Spain. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jbear1198 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.wisconsin.counties.dane/5776.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: It appears there are at least three cemeteries in Springfield Corners Kohlman Cemetery Springfield Corners Roxbury Cemetery Springfield Corners Saint Johns Cemetery Springfield Corners Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Kayellenfleming Surnames: HRUBY, HILDEBRANDT Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.wisconsin.counties.dane/5776/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I would like to find out which cemeteries are closest to Springfield Corners. Also, does Dane have a cemetery? Am looking for HRUBY family burials as well as Mary Hruby Hildebrandt. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.