This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: JodiSweere Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.wisconsin.counties.calumet/1106.3.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I was born and raised in that area and have been there. My great-grandparents lived in Charlestown and are buried there in St. Martin's Catholic Cemetery. If you look on Google Map, you will see Charlestown about 2 miles southeast of Chilton in Calumet county on Hwy. 151. Present day Hayton is located nearby, on Weeks and Center roads. Hayton Hillside cemetery is also shown on the map. A satellite view will show you there are many existing buildings. Hayton had a mill and you can still see the mill pond between Mill road and Weeks road. There were 2 bars in the area that I know of, one was on the east side of the mill pond where the dam is, it was a large old historic building. This one would be the best candidate for a hostel / inn. If I recall correctly it had a stable right in the building which was common for tavern of that era. It had a beautiful view with large windows facing the Mill pond. The other bar was the middle building of the group of three on the corner of Wa! shington and 151. The buildings along 151 look mainly like small stores, not originally built for bars. Also on the map one mile east of Hayton is Church road, which leads south to St. Martin's Catholic Church property which is on the corner of Church road and Country trunk T. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: v_warbler Surnames: ELIAS Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.wisconsin.counties.calumet/1106.3.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you so much for your information. It does help quite a bit because depending on what I am looking for I can use the place names interchangably to see if that generates any more "hits" for my research. I appreciate you taking the time to post. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: handrich Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.wisconsin.counties.calumet/1106.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Although Charlestown is now the name of the township, there WAS a settlement with that name, and it apparently IS modern-day Hayton. According to information in "Wisconsin - Its Territorial and State Post Offices" published in 1995 by the Wisconsin Postal History Society (page 45), the post office there was established on May 10, 1849 as "Charlestown" with William Roberts as postmaster. The name was changed to "Hayton" on February 19, 1873 with Hubbard S. Watson as postmaster. The post office was discontinued March 30, 1930 with mail service then provided from Brillion. Also, in "Wisconsin - Its Counties, Townships, and Villages," compiled in 1994 by Wendy Uncapher and Linda Herrick, Hayton is identified on page 8 with its previous name of "Charlestown." In the volume "Romance of Wisconsin Place Names," by Robert E. Gard and L.G. Sorden (1968), Hayton is described (page 54) with its earliest name as "Wallerville," in honor of Parley Waller, one of its earliest settlers and businessmen. The name was then changed to "School Section" and then "Dicksville." Later still (presumably in 1849, when the post office was established) it became "Charlestown," named after the Charlestown Indian tribe that had migrated there -- along with the Stockbridge and Brothertown tribes. Of course, check your sources carefully, because the references could easily refer to the settlement with that name (depending on the time period) OR the township where it was located. Good look with your research! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: v_warbler Surnames: ELIAS Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.wisconsin.counties.calumet/1106.2.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Too funny he was known as "Mutt". I have a sister that one of my brother's calls that. Nicholas Elias married Elizabeth Schnettler ca. late 1850s. Regina Elias 1860-1939 married Henry Warbler. Both died and are buried near Detroit, Michigan (10 children) John Elias 1862-1917 (possibly) married a Danish woman and had a daughter Elizabeth, but cannot find out more about them after 1900 census. Elizabeth "Lizzie" Elias 1864-1927 married Francis Cox and spent their lives in Duluth, MN (3 children) Mary Elias 1866-193? married A. McLeod in 1890 - he died in 1899) and then married John B. McDermott sometime after 1900. No children. Emma Elias 1869-193? or 4?) married William Warbler in 1902. William died in 1918. Brother of Henry Warbler. They were based in Kohler, Wisconsin. (2 children) I am descended from Henry and Regina Warbler. Their 6th child/6th daughter, Shirley Warbler Stock (1891-1987), was my grandmother and her 7th child/4th daughter is still living, which is my mother. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jenfairfax1 Surnames: Elias Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.wisconsin.counties.calumet/1106.2.1.1.1.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: George Elias Jr. and family Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jenfairfax1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.wisconsin.counties.calumet/1106.2.1.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: The man on the left is George Elias - 1872 Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jenfairfax1 Surnames: Elias Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.wisconsin.counties.calumet/1106.2.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: George Elias (1872-1940) - Catherine Galvin (1882-1963) --Hubert "Mutt" Elias (04/01/1901 to 08/1975) - wife Florence. No children. Always known as Mutt. --George "Whooley" Elias Jr. (08/11/1902 to 02/17/1956) - Gifted athlete, went by Whooley (HOO-LEE). Owned a filling station in Rosebush, MI. Died of cancer at the age of 53. Wife Marguerite Potter, children George III and Geoffrey Robert --Ford Elias (10/04/1907--3/1993) First marriage ended in divorce. One son name Ford Jr was adopted by stepfather. Now Ford Greene, he lives in Alton, Ill. 2nd wife Cecilia Agnes. --Marguerite Elias b. abt 1909 married William Weller --Catherine Elias b. abt 1912 married Clarence L. Haines Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: v_warbler Surnames: ELIAS Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.wisconsin.counties.calumet/1106.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Very interesting. My father's family (Elias is my mother's side) has family not far from Alma/St. Louis in Gratiot Co. I couldn't see anything on the Ancestry site because I don't have a paid subscription (eventually, but no $ right now) and I did get to see some of the stuff on My Heritage. George I was much younger than Hubert and I am guessing since he was just a little guy when Balthasar died that he looked to Hubert as a father-figure (it lists Hubert as his father on his marriage license). Now that I know that George had strong ties to Gratiot County, Michigan (being an Innkeeper - not far from a tavern keeper in those days) I can start looking into their site to see what I find. George obviously had the knowledge for the business given that his parents did that, too. Thanks for the information. If there is anything I can help you with, let me know. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: v_warbler Surnames: ELIAS Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.wisconsin.counties.calumet/1106.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you for writing. Balthasar was either the brother or cousin (my gut tells me they were brothers) of Nicholas Elias, my great-great grandfather. I am descended from his oldest child and daughter, Regina Elias Warbler. I have found Hubert and George. There is also a picture of Hubert's tombstone on Find-a-Grave. I have followed a bit of each of the siblings census and that there is pictures of the Atchison Elias family's stones on Find-a-Grave as well. In the 1870 census, Balthasar was listed as a tavern keeper; my g-g-grandfather also was doing that type of work and also farmed. Do you have any pictures? My mother and her cousins have some but I am still trying to track down more. Again, thanks for the reply. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jenfairfax1 Surnames: Elias Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.wisconsin.counties.calumet/1106.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I'm descended from Balthasar's youngest son, George (1872). In 1880 George was living with his sister Katherine and her husband Peter Schueller in Meeme Twp, WI. So was Nicolas. George, the youngest, and Herbert, the oldest, ended up in Michigan where they both raised families. John ended up in Kansas and there are a bunch of his descendents in Atchinson, KS and the Kansas City area. Jennifer Elias Fairfax Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: blahblahpaul1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.wisconsin.counties.calumet/1107.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Further info: The full death date was 9 April 1909. And thank you for your info Jay! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: JayinSanDiego Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.wisconsin.counties.calumet/1107.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Paul, Can you email me your address off list wilpolthistory at aol is mine. I have tombstone pictures and some info. Kaukauna Times or Appleton Post Crescent were the newspapers you would want to look at for obits. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: blahblahpaul1 Surnames: McDonnell McDonell McDonald Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.wisconsin.counties.calumet/1107/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Could someone possibly look up the 1909 death record for Mary (nee Burke) McDonnell in Brillion, Calumet Co.? Her name might be mis-spelled as 'McDonald' or 'McDonell.' She was born 1814 in Ireland, age 94 or 95 at death. Her husband was Mark McDonnell (1818-1898). Her son Peter McDonnell of Brillion Twp. was probably the informant. I am mostly hopeful of learning her parents' names from the document. Perhaps an obit was published as well? What papers printed obits for Brillion/Forest Junction area? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Charlestown is a township within Calumet county.  I believe Hayton is a small settlement within the township. I had a family member who lived in Hayton.  His WWI draft registration record showed him living in Hayton and the 1930 census indicates Charlestown township. If you check Google Maps and look at the aerial view, you can see an area with a few houses surrounded by farmland.  I think that's Hayton.  The Rootsweb page for Calumet county has some more background.  It says there were three cemetaries in Charlestown.  Here's the cemetary page: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~calumet/ccem.htm This shows where Charlestown is in relation to the rest of the county:  http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wicalume/CalumetTownshipColor.jpg One Catholic church is listed in the township:  http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~calumet/ccath.htm I didn't see any other churches listed.  Here is a little description of Hayton, as of 1881: Hayton. This village is near the line of the Wisconsin Central Railroads, two miles below Gravesville, and the same distance east of Chilton. The first settler upon its site was O. J. Watrous, who located in June, 1849, and built a sawmill. It happened that the land upon which the village was to grow was State school property, and it accordingly platted by the Commissioners of the School Lands. It was first called Wallersville in honor of Parley Wller, a settler of prominence; afterwards went by the simple name of School Section, and later Dicksville. It was named Hayton in 1853. The village now contains a population of about 300 inhabitants, has two hotels, several general stores, a tannery (Helfrich & Co.), a saw and grist-mill, with other trades represented. The Ormsby Lime Company manufactures some of its best material here, having run a side track to the main line of the railroad. Hayton had once fair expectations of being chosen as the county seat, Mr. Waller proving a bold champion in the cause. Source:  http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~calumet/histry10.htm There's lots more on the rootsweb pages that may be relevant. Hope this helps.            KRC ----- Original Message ----- From: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com To: WICALUME-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 1:49:44 PM Subject: [WICALUME] CHARLESTOWN This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: v_warbler Surnames: ELIAS Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.wisconsin.counties.calumet/1106/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Is the Town of Charlestown now actually Hayton?  If not, can someone give me crossroads as to where it was?  I am looking for family members that lived both in Charlestown and then previously in Eaton Twp., Manitowoc Co. (they lived in Steinthal and were enumerated in Eaton Twp. on the 1870 census as tavern keepers - I found Steinthal Rd., but not the town).  As of 1875 Balthasar Elias and his wife, Mary Kremer Elias and their numerous children lived there and ran a tavern.  Balthasar died approximately 1878 and is buried possibly in Steinthal or possibly somewhere closer to Charlestown.  In 1880 Mary is on the census with the younger children and still running the tavern.  She also re-married in Charlestown in March 1881 with her daughter Margretha in a double wedding.  (Mary married Joseph Endres, Margretha married Gustave Sievert).  This family has been elusive in being able to follow them around, especially after the children grew up, married, and moved.  Any information!   about either Charlestown, it's taverns, or cemeteries would be appreciated.  Thanks. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.   ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WICALUME-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: cgilles522 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.wisconsin.counties.calumet/1106.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: If you look for Charlestown, Wisconsin in Wikipedia you'll find a little more information. It is a township; I believe most of the residents would be farmers and so the population is scattered. I did not look at the Calumet County RootsWeb site, and I don't know if you did or not. There might be more information there. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: v_warbler Surnames: ELIAS Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.wisconsin.counties.calumet/1106.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you so much. I wonder if it -used- to exist and is basically just land now, no buildings. I appreciate you sending me this information. I have looked on the local Calumet Co., site, but I may not have dug deep enough as more of my research stems from Manitowoc Co. Again, thank you. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: cgilles522 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.wisconsin.counties.calumet/1106.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Charlestown is a township in Calumet county. I found the following information about it on the Calumet County website. "Town of Charlestown, Aebischer Site. Listed on the National Register in 1985. Site is identified as prehistoric, 9000-9999 BC. The site is related to agriculture and animals. There are no buildings or structures at the site." Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: v_warbler Surnames: ELIAS Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.wisconsin.counties.calumet/1106/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Is the Town of Charlestown now actually Hayton? If not, can someone give me crossroads as to where it was? I am looking for family members that lived both in Charlestown and then previously in Eaton Twp., Manitowoc Co. (they lived in Steinthal and were enumerated in Eaton Twp. on the 1870 census as tavern keepers - I found Steinthal Rd., but not the town). As of 1875 Balthasar Elias and his wife, Mary Kremer Elias and their numerous children lived there and ran a tavern. Balthasar died approximately 1878 and is buried possibly in Steinthal or possibly somewhere closer to Charlestown. In 1880 Mary is on the census with the younger children and still running the tavern. She also re-married in Charlestown in March 1881 with her daughter Margretha in a double wedding. (Mary married Joseph Endres, Margretha married Gustave Sievert). This family has been elusive in being able to follow them around, especially after the children grew up, married, and moved. Any information! about either Charlestown, it's taverns, or cemeteries would be appreciated. Thanks. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: lenbrewster Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.wisconsin.counties.calumet/1105.3.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Yes , I actually have that included in my family tree as well but under comments I mention this is only one of several suspect lines for john L Brewster there is no documentation to support it. Just the right people in about the right area at perhaps the right time .. Thankyou however Len Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: RPokorny Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.wisconsin.counties.calumet/1104.4/mb.ashx Message Board Post: http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=0 Name: Alexander Babatz Gender: Male Burial Date: Burial Place: Death Date: 24 Feb 1900 Death Place: Menasha, Wisconsin Age: 56 Birth Date: 1844 Birthplace: Occupation: Race: White Marital Status: Married Spouse's Name: Annie Father's Name: Daniel Babatz Father's Birthplace: Mother's Name: Rosa Mother's Birthplace: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: B06571-1 System Origin: Wisconsin-EASy Source Film Number: 1311665 Reference Number: 1977 Collection: Wisconsin Deaths and Burials, 1835-1968 This must be Charles Dorn's wife, Christiana. Her maiden name is now listed as Kloventus. Marriage records of 2 of her sons read Keva.... and Qriast. Her birth and death date matches with the cemetery record I sent you. Name: Christiana Kloventus Dern Gender: Female Burial Date: 1902 Burial Place: Stockbridge, Calumet, Wi Death Date: 12 Oct 1902 Death Place: Stockbridge, Calumet, Wisconsin Age: 76 Birth Date: 10 Apr 1826 Birthplace: Germany Occupation: Housekeeper Race: White Marital Status: Widowed Spouse's Name: Charles Dern Father's Name: John Kloventus Father's Birthplace: Germany Mother's Name: Maria Kloventus Mother's Birthplace: Germany Indexing Project (Batch) Number: B06543-2 System Origin: Wisconsin-EASy Source Film Number: 1310175 Reference Number: 0953 Collection: Wisconsin Deaths and Burials, 1835-1968 ----------- 1900 United States Federal Census Name: Emma Babbits Home in 1900: Menasha Ward 1, Winnebago, Wisconsin Age: 47 Birth Date: Sep 1852 Birthplace: Germany Race: White Gender: Female Immigration Year: 1860[1861] Relationship to Head of House: Head Father's Birthplace: Germany Mother's Birthplace: Germany Mother: number of living children: 8 Mother: How many children: 9 Marital Status: Widowed Occupation: View on Image Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Emma Babbits 47 see above Laura Babbits 40 (26) born July 1873 Charles Babbits 25 born Feb 1875 Hermon Babbits 22 born July 1877 William Babbits 19 born Sept 1880 Albert Babbits 17 born Sept 1882 Lena Babbits 15 born Sept 1884 Minnie Babbits 10 born Jan 1890 Amelia Babbits 8 born May 1892 ----------- 1900 United States Federal Census Name: Christina Dorn[Christiann Dorn] Home in 1900: Stockbridge, Calumet, Wisconsin Age: 74 Birth Date: Apr 1826 Birthplace: Germany Race: White Gender: Female Immigration Year: 1860 Relationship to Head of House: Head Father's Birthplace: Germany Mother's Birthplace: Germany Mother: number of living children: 7 Mother: How many children: 10 Marital Status: Widowed Occupation: View on Image Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Christina Dorn 74 See above Hulda Diehl 45 born Feb 1855 Germany (daughter) Flora Diehl 2 born July 1897 Wis (granddaughter) Carl Diehl 11/12 born June 1899 Wis (grandson) Albert Merkley 20 born Sept 1879 Wis (grandson) http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=0 Groom's Name: Albert Merkley Groom's Birth Date: Groom's Birthplace: Stockbridge, Cal. Co., Wis. Groom's Age: Bride's Name: Minnie Zimmermann Bride's Birth Date: Bride's Birthplace: Harrison, Cal. Co., Wis. Bride's Age: Marriage Date: 02 Jul 1904 Marriage Place: Clifton, Calumet, Wisconsin Groom's Father's Name: John Merkley Groom's Mother's Name: Hilda Merkley nee Dorn Bride's Father's Name: Christoph Zimmermann Bride's Mother's Name: Minnie Zimmermann Groom's Race: White Groom's Marital Status: Groom's Previous Wife's Name: Bride's Race: White Bride's Marital Status: Bride's Previous Husband's Name: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M00338-8 System Origin: Wisconsin-EASy Source Film Number: 1275843 Reference Number: P 331 Cn 02133 Collection: Wisconsin Marriages, 1836-1930 Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.