This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.wisconsin.counties.adams/1552.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: According to Hannah J. Schoff's death certificate her parents were Hiram Joel and Clerenda Joel. She was born in Worcester, Mass on 24 October 1843 and died 6 April 1887. The person signing the certificate was Hiram Joel. Also, according to Wisconsin vital records Hiram Joyal married a Delia Walden 6 April 1871 and Hiram and Delia are living in Portage (Columbia) Wisconsin in 1900. Census says Hiram was born Jan 1817 in Vermont. This Hiram cannot be Hannah's husband nor her son. I believe her father is Hiram Joyal. Hiram died 28 Jan 1901 in Adams county according to Adams County death records. Please help me make sense out of all this.