All, At 09:29 PM 6/2/05, Darlene M Leonard wrote: >Hello Listers, >This is my first try at finding the parents of the above persons. I >found this information on FamilySearch. > >Alva WHITNEY b. abt 1810 NY m. abt 1836 >Marinda (HARTWICK) b. abt 1810 NY >Children: > Delos WHITNEY b. 1841, NY d. 24 Apr 1916, Mason City, Cero Gordo, >IA bur. Mason City, IA, > Elmwood Cemetery, Lot 76b > George M. WHITNEY b. 19 Feb 1837, NY d. 19 Mar 1889, Mason City, >Cerro Gordo, IA > bur. Mason City, IA, Elmood Cemetery, Lot 76b > Mary WHITNEY b. 6 Jul 1844, NY bur. 25 Feb 1922, Gar Cem, Grand >Rapids, MI > >Mary WHITNEY married John Van Patter on 31 Oct 1866, IA > John Van Patter b. 14 Mar 1842, Ogle Co., ILL d. 20 Jan 1915 >bur. Gar Cem., Grand Rapids, MI > Children were: > Datus Delos VAN PATTER b. 28 Jan 1878, SD d. Jan 1942, Olympia, >WA bur. WA > John Alva VAN PATTER b. 16 May 1873, Mason City, IA d. 27 Nov >1956 WA bur. Sunnyside > Cem., Sunnyside, Yakima Co., WA > Jarvis VAN PATTER b. 4 Jun 1884, Brule Co., SD bur. SD > Simon VAN PATTER b. 9 Jul 1871, Mason City, IA bur. Elmwood >Cem., IA > Viletta VAN PATTER b. 5 Aug 1875, Mason City, IA d. & bur. >Washington, D.C. > >It is the John VAN PATTER and Mary WHITNEY that I am most interested in. >These were my ggr-grand >parents. John Alva VAN PATTER was my gr-grandfather. He was married to >Ellen Cecelia SCALES. > >Does anyone have any information that would help me with my research of >these families? A little or a lot would be greatly appreciated. You can >either get in touch with me on the list or personally. >Thank you ahead of time, >Darlene Leonard >[email protected] This Alvah WHITNEY (actually Alvah Lewis WHITNEY) was discussed on our mailing list in 2001. See 3 Jan 2001: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/ifetch2?/u1/textindices/W/WHITNEY+2001+21257+F 3 Jan 2001: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/ifetch2?/u1/textindices/W/WHITNEY+2001+43498+F 3 Jan 2001: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/ifetch2?/u1/textindices/W/WHITNEY+2001+54990+F 4 Jan 2001: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/ifetch2?/u1/textindices/W/WHITNEY+2001+66427+F 4 Jan 2001: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/ifetch2?/u1/textindices/W/WHITNEY+2001+513938318+F 5 Jan 2001: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/ifetch2?/u1/textindices/W/WHITNEY+2001+519947487+F 5 Jan 2001: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/ifetch2?/u1/textindices/W/WHITNEY+2001+10552018874+F 12 Sep 2002: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/ifetch2?/u1/textindices/W/WHITNEY+2002+6241191480+F Note that Marinda's maiden name was HARTWELL, not HARTWICK. The final piece in the puzzle came from a family bible record: 2 Apr 2002: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/ifetch2?/u1/textindices/W/WHITNEY+2002+12832551959+F Alva Lewis WHITNEY was born 12 Apr 1809, son of Samuel and Sibbel (PHILLIPS) WHITNEY. Samuel was born 17 Aug 1760, and, if you believe what Alvah said in the 1880 census, http://www.whitneygen.org/archives/census/1880/extracts/ia.htm#45 Samuel was born in Connecticut. Samuel's parents were Elijah and Hannah (-----) WHITNEY, according to the bible record. There are two such couples known to me. 1. Elijah-5 WHITNEY [Daniel-4, John-3, John-2, John-1], m. Hannah COFFIN, of Boston and Roxbury, MA, d. 1792: http://www.whitneygen.org/families/johnw/john6g3.html#id513 2. Elijah WHITNEY, "of Danbury", ancestry unknown, m. Hannah (WHITNEY) BASS, widow of Jeremiah BASS. He d. ca. 1815, Leeds, ON, Canada: http://www.whitneygen.org/archives/extracts/phoenix/p0241-0245.html#1108 The latter is very likely the one in question, given the locations in which the two of them lived. Yes, this seems to be a WHITNEY marrying another WHITNEY. There are, however, problems with dates. Elijah-5 WHITNEY [Elijah-4, Richard-3, John-2, Henry-1], the alleged father of Hannah (WHITNEY)(BASS) WHITNEY, was born in 1736. His alleged grandson Samuel was born in 1760. This is impossible. Furthermore, Jeremiah BASS was a soldier in the American Revolution (1776-1783), so his widow could not be the mother of a child born in 1760. Perhaps the Hannah WHITNEY who married Jeremiah BASS was not the same one who married Elijah WHITNEY of Danbury. Possibly the latter was the sister of Elijah-5, born 1735, rather than his daughter. She and Elijah-5 had a brother Samuel-5, so the name Samuel was used in this family. This should give you a lot to work with. I hope you can find the parentage of Elijah WHITNEY of Danbury and his wife Hannah. In the meantime, we've managed to push your WHITNEY line back two more generations. Good luck in your research! Regards, Robert Mr. Robert L. Ward [email protected] http://www.whitneygen.org/home.html