All, At 07:06 PM 9/6/05, [email protected] wrote: > I am almost positive that > the Arnold >surname for Elinor comes from an anonymous posting to Ancestral File on the >Mormon website in Salt Lake City. It had no sourcing or >documentation. As one >who spent at least 20+ hours at the British Genealogy Society library, >searching for any marriage record anywhere in England for John and >Elinor -- to no >avail -- I don't think that there is any known source or document >that confirms >the surname Arnold for our maternal progenitor. I think I know the source of "ARNOLD": <http://www.whitneygen.org/archives/extracts/bond.html#whitney10>. It was John-2 WHITNEY, Jr., son of John-1 and Elinor, who is the WHITNEY man in question here. The Thomas ARNOLD involved was too young to be Elinor's father. He seems not to be related to John WHITNEY, Jr., or his wife Ruth (REYNOLDS) WHITNEY, in any known way. It's hard to understand why he is called "Father ARNOLD" in the cited deed. This means that there is no credible evidence of ARNOLD as a maiden name for Elinor (-----) WHITNEY, wife of John-1 WHITNEY of Watertown. In fact, as Allan points out, there is no credible evidence supporting ANY MAIDEN NAME for our ancestress Elinor. Regards, Robert Mr. Robert L. Ward rlward AT whitneygen DOT org http://www.whitneygen.org/home.html

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Perhaps "Father Arnold" is used in the sense of "Senior" here, to distinguish him from a relative? This Thomas Arnold had sons named Thomas by each of his wives. This genealogy notes that Thomas "moved to Smithfield, RI, Oct 17, 1661", the same day of the land deal in Watertown: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Fields/4791/orrinstonearnold.html [6th paragraph] Jeanne Muse also spelled out the details of these Arnolds for us in a newsletter seven years ago: http://www.whitneygen.org/archives/mailinglist/list9610.html Speaking of Arnolds, Thomas's half-nephew was Gov Benedict Arnold of Rhode Island. Later this month we'll mark the 225th anniversary of the, um, incident involving his namesake descendant. Cheers, Ron Kyser On Wednesday, September 7, 2005, at 09:41 AM, Robert L. Ward wrote: > All, > > At 07:06 PM 9/6/05, [email protected] wrote: >> I am almost positive that >> the Arnold >> surname for Elinor comes from an anonymous posting to Ancestral File >> on the >> Mormon website in Salt Lake City. It had no sourcing or >> documentation. As one >> who spent at least 20+ hours at the British Genealogy Society library, >> searching for any marriage record anywhere in England for John and >> Elinor -- to no >> avail -- I don't think that there is any known source or document that >> confirms >> the surname Arnold for our maternal progenitor. > > I think I know the source of "ARNOLD": > <http://www.whitneygen.org/archives/extracts/bond.html#whitney10>. > It was John-2 WHITNEY, Jr., son of John-1 and Elinor, who is the WHITNEY > man in question here. The Thomas ARNOLD involved was too young to be > Elinor's father. He seems not to be related to John WHITNEY, Jr., or > his wife Ruth (REYNOLDS) WHITNEY, in any known way. It's hard to > understand why he is called "Father ARNOLD" in the cited deed. > > This means that there is no credible evidence of ARNOLD as a maiden > name for > Elinor (-----) WHITNEY, wife of John-1 WHITNEY of Watertown. In fact, > as Allan > points out, there is no credible evidence supporting ANY MAIDEN NAME > for our > ancestress Elinor. > > Regards, > > Robert > > Mr. Robert L. Ward > rlward AT whitneygen DOT org > http://www.whitneygen.org/home.html