GailandLarry: I see where you have your 67 marker DNA results. Looks like we link to Silas Whitney. What records do you have on your Silas Whitney,Jr.? My data on Silas, Jr. is as follows: Shown on pay rolls serving with Capt. Salisbury's co. in the Rev. war -first service Oct. 17, 1777. Revolutionary Soldiers in Vermont WHITNEY, Silas, Jr, VT; r Clarendon; Capt Salisbury's co 1777; 41, p 58. ----------------- Mass. Town Birth Records Name: Silas WHITNEY Birth Date: Aug. 15, 1762 Birth Place: Rutland Father's Name: Silas Sex: M This may be the birth registration of Silas, Jr. It was common for the births to be recorded weeks after the event. Name: Silas Whitney Birth Date: 15 Aug 1762 Birth Place: Rutland Father's First Name: Silas Gender: Male Source: Vital Records of Rutland ----------------- Index to the 1820 Census for Ontario County, NY WHITNEY SILAS CANANDAIGUA 222 ---------------------- Whitney, Silas, Jr. Resident of: Name as recorded: Whitney, Silas, Jr. Petition from Philadelphia (Chittenden) and Chittenden to establish the ancient town lines. Record Date: 1788-09-23 Series: SE-118 Record Type: Petition Volume: 22 Record ID: 16817 Page: 172 Do you have anything else? Sincerely James E. Whitney,II Family Search ID-PR227 -----Original Message----- From: whitney-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:whitney-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Gail Anderson Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 7:23 PM To: whitney@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WHITNEY] Website I think your right Rose Zella. Thanks for responding so we know we are still connected. Gail -----Original Message----- From: whitney-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:whitney-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Rose Zella Proctor Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 7:47 PM To: whitney@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WHITNEY] Website Do you think maybe everyone just has spring fever? Out here in Wyoming its crazy. Moher's Day it was near 90 degrees. Got up the next morning to 54 degrees. That just takes the sap out of you and seems there is freaky weather all over. So all you Whitney relatives take care and we will soon find something interesting in our family tree again. Rose Zella On May 16, 2007, at 7:26 PM, Gail Anderson wrote: > Hi Ben, > > I have been wondering the same thing. There are at least two of us > alive and > kicking. Anybody? Anybody? > > Gail > P.S. I got some really good DNA news. I am so happy for who ever had > the > foresight to do the surname Test. Thank you, Thank you Thank you. > > -----Original Message----- > From: whitney-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:whitney-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Benjamin Whitney > Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 3:21 PM > To: whitney@rootsweb.com > Subject: [WHITNEY] Website > > Greetings, > > Is [WHITNEY] still working? > Or, have I been purged? > Speak to me, somebody! > > Regards, > Ben > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WHITNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WHITNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WHITNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WHITNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.3/809 - Release Date: 5/17/2007 5:18 PM

Hi James, I just got results back on a cousin of Larry's. You may have noticed a 3 step mutation on marker DYS 413a on the DNA chart for Larry. This has been a problem while using the "stepwise model" that FamilyTreeDNA uses because it counts it as 3 mutations instead of one mutation. The infinite allele model just counts it as a one step mutation. So, that makes too many mutations for us to be related in an important genealogical time frame. However, by testing another male cousin we discovered that he does not have this 3 step mutation. According to Bennett Greenspan this mutation had to occur with the grandfather of both the cousins or the father of Larry. So that makes us have only one mutation at DYS534. Now we, (you and I) match more closely. You have 2 mutations at DYS 464b and DYS 557, add that to our one mutation and that makes 3 mutations between us. That equates to a 69.18% probability that we are related within 8 generations which puts us at Silas Sr. If we add in a paper trail and recalculate the generations our probability number goes down. So at a 3 step mutation we need more documentation. We have learned some things in the last month or so. A cousin has determined that the Canandaigua, Ontario County, New York, Silas Whitney is not from the 1762 Vermont Silas Whitney Sr. line. We are extending the 12 marker test of a descendant of that line to see if our DNA profile matches. So... If our DNA matches this person's then we do not belong to the 1762 Vermont Silas Whitney line. However, it does not appear that the New York Silas had a son named Silas, and since we know that we are a descendant of Silas Newcomb Whitney of Canandaigua of New York, we may not match. I will be surprised if it does. If our DNA does not match it appears that our closest match so far is Silas Jr. of Vermont. I have a perfect match With Lowell Thomas Whitney who traces his family to Ohio. His family record has it that the father of this Ohio ancestor was born in New York, so there may be clues there. I about 4 week we will know whether or not we are linked to the older New York, Silas Whitney. It appears that the Silas Whitney in the 1820 Census in Canandaigua and the 1762 Silas Jr. of Vermont are not the same person. I have some Revolutionary war records of Silas Sr. and Silas Jr. of Vermont. I can send you copies of those as there are several entries and a connection with Peter Powers and a Cyrus Chipman who do move to Ontario County New York along with Jarameal Powers father of Peter. So I still think there is a New York connection with the Vermont 1762 Silas but as of yet cannot prove it. I also have a transcript of a petition of these men to governor Clinton of N.Y. for redress of lost land due to their support of N.Y. in the border dispute of New York and Vermont. As of yet I don't know if they were given land in New York to replace their losses. I am working on pulling this together and will send it to you when I have finished it. I am interested in the last paragraph of your letter Whitney, Silas, Jr. Resident of: Name as recorded: Whitney, Silas, Jr. Petition from Philadelphia (Chittenden) and Chittenden to establish the ancient town lines. Record Date: 1788-09-23 Series: SE-118 Record Type: Petition Volume: 22 Record ID: 16817 Page: 172 I couldn't fin a Chittenden in PA. There is one in Vermont, which records does this entry refer to. Do you have anymore details on this? I look forward to comparing more information as we gather it. Gail -----Original Message----- From: whitney-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:whitney-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of James Whitney Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 10:13 AM To: whitney@rootsweb.com Subject: [WHITNEY] Silas Whitney,Jr. born 1762 GailandLarry: I see where you have your 67 marker DNA results. Looks like we link to Silas Whitney. What records do you have on your Silas Whitney,Jr.? My data on Silas, Jr. is as follows: Shown on pay rolls serving with Capt. Salisbury's co. in the Rev. war -first service Oct. 17, 1777. Revolutionary Soldiers in Vermont WHITNEY, Silas, Jr, VT; r Clarendon; Capt Salisbury's co 1777; 41, p 58. ----------------- Mass. Town Birth Records Name: Silas WHITNEY Birth Date: Aug. 15, 1762 Birth Place: Rutland Father's Name: Silas Sex: M This may be the birth registration of Silas, Jr. It was common for the births to be recorded weeks after the event. Name: Silas Whitney Birth Date: 15 Aug 1762 Birth Place: Rutland Father's First Name: Silas Gender: Male Source: Vital Records of Rutland ----------------- Index to the 1820 Census for Ontario County, NY WHITNEY SILAS CANANDAIGUA 222 ---------------------- Whitney, Silas, Jr. Resident of: Name as recorded: Whitney, Silas, Jr. Petition from Philadelphia (Chittenden) and Chittenden to establish the ancient town lines. Record Date: 1788-09-23 Series: SE-118 Record Type: Petition Volume: 22 Record ID: 16817 Page: 172 Do you have anything else? Sincerely James E. Whitney,II Family Search ID-PR227 -----Original Message----- From: whitney-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:whitney-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Gail Anderson Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 7:23 PM To: whitney@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WHITNEY] Website I think your right Rose Zella. Thanks for responding so we know we are still connected. Gail -----Original Message----- From: whitney-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:whitney-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Rose Zella Proctor Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 7:47 PM To: whitney@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WHITNEY] Website Do you think maybe everyone just has spring fever? Out here in Wyoming its crazy. Moher's Day it was near 90 degrees. Got up the next morning to 54 degrees. That just takes the sap out of you and seems there is freaky weather all over. So all you Whitney relatives take care and we will soon find something interesting in our family tree again. Rose Zella On May 16, 2007, at 7:26 PM, Gail Anderson wrote: > Hi Ben, > > I have been wondering the same thing. There are at least two of us > alive and > kicking. Anybody? Anybody? > > Gail > P.S. I got some really good DNA news. I am so happy for who ever had > the > foresight to do the surname Test. Thank you, Thank you Thank you. > > -----Original Message----- > From: whitney-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:whitney-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Benjamin Whitney > Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 3:21 PM > To: whitney@rootsweb.com > Subject: [WHITNEY] Website > > Greetings, > > Is [WHITNEY] still working? > Or, have I been purged? > Speak to me, somebody! > > Regards, > Ben > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WHITNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WHITNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WHITNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WHITNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. 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