Cap: We'd love for you to join. Here are the steps: 1) Identify the person to be tested. They need to be a) male, and b) a direct male descent from a Whitney. 2) Go to https://www.familytreedna.com/surname_join.aspx?code=X15927&special=False and fill out the form. If you are having someone other than yourself tested, enter the information for the person being tested, not yourself. You will enter your own information on the second screen.) Select the basic Y-DNA12 test for $99 or the 25, 37, or 67 marker tests if you can afford it and want the entire results faster. 3) Enter your credit card information or information on how they can invoice you, and finish your order. 4) Wait for the kit to arrive. You simply open a plastic covering to remove a swab, rub it inside your cheek, and place the swab tip in a plastic vial. Repeat 2 more times and mail the package back. 5) Wait for the results to come in. This is the hardest part as it does take a while! We look forward to having you and any others who want to join up participate with us. Tim -----Original Message----- From: whitney-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:whitney-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of uwacap@aol.com Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 5:04 PM To: whitney@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WHITNEY] DNA Study Progress Tim, I have been sitting on the sidelines watching the DNA testing and results, and now I would like to participate myself. I know you and others have given instructions to the procedure to follow to participate in the Whitney DNA study, but quite frankly I don't have a clue what I need to do. Would you be so kind as to let me know what I need to do to participate? Thanks. Casper (Cap) Whitney Dublin, Ohio -----Original Message----- From: Tim Doyle <tim@greenscourt.com> To: Whitney@rootsweb.com Sent: Thu, 24 May 2007 10:51 am Subject: [WHITNEY] DNA Study Progress Whitney DNA Project Status Update We currently have 51 Project participants: * 33 descendants of the American immigrant John Whitney, son of Thomas hitney of Lambeth Marsh, Surrey, England. * 3 descendants of the American immigrant Henry Whitney. * 1 descendant of the American immigrant Samuel Whitney of Bermuda. * 1 descendant of Ebenezer Whitney of New Brunswick, Canada. * 1 descendant of Richard Whitney of Morton Say, Shropshire, England. * 1 descendant of Charles Whitney of Yardley Hastings, Northamptonshire, England. * 1 descendant of William Underwood Whitney of Hereford, England. * 7 individuals who have unique results and appear to not be related to thers currently in the study. * 3 individuals whose results have not yet come in. New Findings: NA results for Ebenezer Whitney of New Brunswick have now come in. It ppears that he was not related to the immigrant John Whitney, and probably ot related to the immigrant Henry Whitney. He may be distantly related to he immigrant Samuel Whitney of Bermuda, but because Samuel's descendants ettled the American south, the connection, if it exists, must be back in ngland. This means that the DNA evidence suggests that Ebenezer Whitney or is ancestor immigrated independently from England. Researchers who have een trying in vain to connect him to other Whitney branches in America hould instead focus on immigration records or records in England. Fund Status: * Seven individuals have made donations totaling $235.00! * Of this, we used $152.00 for the testing of a descendant of Charles hitney of Yardley Hastings, England. * We have also allocated funds to extend the test for the descendant of amuel Whitney from 12 to 25 markers. * If you would like to help further this project financially, please onsider making a donation. Simply go to the following website and specify Whitney as the project. http://www.familytreedna.com/contribution.html Results: The DNA tests give us back a set of numbers for each individual tested. By inding the most common value at each marker, we can estimate what we elieve the immigrant ancestor actually had, if we could test his DNA. So ar, we've been able to come up with the following values for 7 Whitney roups: 1) 13 24 15 11 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 30 17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 29 15 16 17 17 ) 13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 11 13 13 29 16 9 10 11 11 25 14 18 29 15 15 16 16 ) 13 24 14 11 11 16 12 12 12 13 13 29 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ) 13 24 14 11 12 15 12 12 12 13 13 29 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ) 14 24 15 11 11 14 12 12 11 13 13 30 17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 29 15 15 16 17 ) 13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 30 18 9 10 11 12 25 15 19 29 15 15 17 17 ) 13 25 14 11 11 13 12 12 11 13 13 29 1) John Whitney of Watertown, Massachusetts ) Henry Whitney of Long Island, New York ) Samuel Whitney of Bermuda ) Ebenezer Whitney of New Brunswick, Canada ) Richard Whitney of Morton Say, Shropshire, England ) Charles Whitney of Yardley Hastings, Northamptonshire, England ) William Underwood Whitney of Hereford, England Interpretation: Perhaps Related: Henry Whitney & Samuel Whitney (2 out of 12 markers different) Henry Whitney & William Whitney (2 out of 12 markers different) Samuel Whitney & Ebenezer Whitney (2 out of 12 markers different) Samuel Whitney & Charles Whitney (2 out of 12 markers different) Note: The above individuals are probably related, and their Most Recent ommon Ancestor (MRCA) lived somewhere between 1 and 145 generations ago. sing probability, we can state that there is a 95% probability that their RCA lived no longer than 145 generations ago, 90% probability that their RCA lived no longer than 122 generations ago, and 50% probability that heir MRCA lived no longer than 61 generations ago. Extending the test esults would greatly add to the clarity here. Probably not related: John Whitney & Samuel Whitney (3 out of 12 markers different) John Whitney & Richard Whitney (5 out of 37 markers different) John Whitney & Charles Whitney (3 out of 25 markers different) Henry Whitney & Ebenezer Whitney (3 out of 12 markers different) Samuel Whitney & William Whitney (3 out of 12 markers different) Ebenezer Whitney & Charles Whitney (3 out of 12 markers different) Richard Whitney & Charles Whitney (6 out of 25 markers different) Note: For 3 or more mutations out of a 12 marker test, the people are not elated from a genealogical standpoint as their MRCA would be back many, any generations, something like 1,000 to 2,000 years. Not Related: John Whitney & Henry Whitney (9 out of 25 markers different) John Whitney & Ebenezer Whitney (4 out of 12 markers different) John Whitney & William Whitney (5 out of 12 markers different) Henry Whitney & Richard Whitney (7 out of 25 markers different) Henry Whitney & Charles Whitney (8 out of 25 markers different) Samuel Whitney & Richard Whitney (5 out of 12 markers different) Ebenezer Whitney & Richard Whitney (6 out of 12 markers different) Ebenezer Whitney & William Whitney (4 out of 12 markers different) Richard Whitney & William Whitney (5 out of 12 markers different) Charles Whitney & William Whitney (4 out of 12 markers different) As I work on the Whitney DNA Project, a few individuals have had their test esults show that they were not descendants of John, Henry, or Samuel. While he possibility still exists with such cases that an adoption or on-paternal event occurred, there is another option. Because their escendants account for most of the Whitneys in the United States, we tend o think of only John, Henry, and Samuel as being the Whitney immigrants. owever, a quick check in the 1850 census shows that there were 29 Whitney ales who were born in England or Wales. Other census enumerations ndoubtedly list Whitneys who immigrated after 1850 as well. We need to keep n mind that there were many Whitney immigrants, and many of them we have et to discover. im Doyle & Whitney Keen hitney DNA Project Co-Administrators ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WHITNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. 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