All, With regard to the tentative identification of the James Whitney that died at Valley Forge. If true, then that blows one of the theories/hopes held in my family and reinforces the question - who is the following James who is listed in the Gorham, ME marriages at www.whitneygen.org/archives/vitals/maine/gorham.html? Whitney, James and Deborah Murch, Aug. 15, 1785.* This particular James certainly COULD have been the son of Isaac-4 and Hannah PAYNE, who were also married and had several children in Gorham, though neither Pierce nor McLellan identifies him as such. Then again, given the birthdates of Isaac and Hannah's other children, unless James was an unidentified twin (doesn't seem likely), he would more likely be the son of Isaac-4 and Sarah CROSBY. Just a thought. Linda Bastarache ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert L. Ward" <rlward1@erols.com> To: <WHITNEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2000 7:41 PM Subject: Re: [WHITNEY-L] Valley Forge Whitneys > All, > > At 06:19 PM 11/26/00 -0500, Kenneth Whitney wrote: > >Query to Robert Ward concerning his attribution of Valley Forge Whitneys: > > > > Is there any proof that James-5 Whitney is the son of Isaac-4 Whitney > > of Gorham Maine? > > > > The History of Gorham, Maine by Hugh McLellan, page 832 states that > > John-5, son of Nathan-4 Whitney died in the war on 5 May 1776. Was > > McLellan in error? > > > >Ken Whitney > >Silver Spring, MD > > With regard to James WHITNEY, I don't have proof, but no other theory has > surfaced. > Until it does, I am *tentatively* making this identification. By the way, > if James > was son of Isaac-4, it must by his first wife, Sarah CROSBY, not his second > wife > Hannah PAYNE. This is due to James's marriage date and that of Isaac and > Hannah, > together with their known children's births. James is patently too old to > be by > the second wife. > > With regard to John WHITNEY of Falmouth and Gorham, see Massachusetts > Soldiers and > Sailors in the War of the Revolution, at > <http://www.whitneygen.org/archives/military/mass/j.html>, > vol. 17, pp. 226-227. > > If this is not John-5 (Nathan-4, Nathaniel-3, Benjamin-2, John-1), then who > is it? > Was it John-5 (John-4, Nathaniel-3, Benjamin-2, John-1)? > > > Regards, > > Robert > > Robert L. Ward > WHITNEY Research Group > <http://www.whitneygen.org/> >

At 10:06 AM 12/2/00 -0500, Linda Bastarache wrote: >All, > >With regard to the tentative identification of the James Whitney that died >at Valley Forge. If true, then that blows one of the theories/hopes held in >my family and reinforces the question - who is the following James who is >listed in the Gorham, ME marriages at >www.whitneygen.org/archives/vitals/maine/gorham.html? > > Whitney, James and Deborah Murch, Aug. 15, 1785.* > >This particular James certainly COULD have been the son of Isaac-4 and >Hannah PAYNE, who were also married and had several children in Gorham, >though neither Pierce nor McLellan identifies him as such. Then again, >given the birthdates of Isaac and Hannah's other children, unless James was >an unidentified twin (doesn't seem likely), he would more likely be the son >of Isaac-4 and Sarah CROSBY. > >Just a thought. > >Linda Bastarache Reread the posting. These soldiers were present at Valley Forge, but only a few of them died there. In particular, reference to _Massachusetts Soldiers and Sailors of the Revolutionary War_, at <http://www.whitneygen.org/archives/military/mass/j.html>, reveals that James WHITNEY of Gorham continued to serve until 31 Dec 1780, so he definitely didn't die at Valley Forge. I think it is certain that James WHITNEY the soldier was the same as James WHITNEY, husband of Deborah MURCH. The only problem is determining his parentage! Regards, Robert Robert L. Ward WHITNEY Research Group <http://www.whitneygen.org/>