I was curious to know if Lovina Ellen Whitney, daughter of George Burton Whitney and wife of Ute Vorace Perkins, is a relation to Eli Whitney. Lovina's paternal grandfather was George Sanders Whitney. Mandy Searles --------------------------------- Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Tryit now.

Hi Ted, I would love to have the pictures, what do I need to do to get a copy of them? Thank you so much for offering them. Gail My email address is joelandgail@msn.com -----Original Message----- From: whitney-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:whitney-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ted Whitney Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 6:55 PM To: whitney@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WHITNEY] Silas Whitney,Jr. born 1762 I have some pictures of the Whitney cemetary in Claredon, VT where Silas and his wife are buried if you are interested let me know. Ted Whitney ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Whitney" <jameswhitney1716@comcast.net> To: <whitney@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 9:36 AM Subject: Re: [WHITNEY] Silas Whitney,Jr. born 1762 > Most of these are from the Vermont Town records as found at Ancestry.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: whitney-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:whitney-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On > Behalf Of Gail Anderson > Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 10:08 PM > To: whitney@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [WHITNEY] Silas Whitney,Jr. born 1762 > > Hi James I have made you a couple of CD's with documents on them. I hope > you > can open word documents. Some are PDF's Let me know. I need your address. > I > will send them tomorrow. Where did these records come from and where can I > find them do you know? > > Gail > > Whitney, Silas, Jr. Resident of: Name as recorded: Whitney, Silas, Jr. > Petition from Philadelphia (Chittenden) and Chittenden to establish the > ancient town lines. Record Date: 1788-09-23 Series: SE-118 Record Type: > Petition Volume: 22 Record ID: 16817 Page: 172 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: whitney-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:whitney-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On > Behalf Of James Whitney > Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 9:33 AM > To: whitney@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [WHITNEY] Silas Whitney,Jr. born 1762 > > Yes, I would highly desire the Silas Whitney Rev. war records. The town > mentioned in the last record is Chittenden, Vermont. > Do you know anything about Silas Whitney's wife-Ester Weeks? > James E. Whitney,II > email jameswhitney1716@comcast.net > -----Original Message----- > From: whitney-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:whitney-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On > Behalf Of Gail Anderson > Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2007 9:42 PM > To: whitney@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [WHITNEY] Silas Whitney,Jr. born 1762 > > Hi James, > > I just got results back on a cousin of Larry's. You may have noticed a 3 > step mutation on marker DYS 413a on the DNA chart for Larry. This has been > a > problem while using the "stepwise model" that FamilyTreeDNA uses because > it > counts it as 3 mutations instead of one mutation. The infinite allele > model > just counts it as a one step mutation. So, that makes too many mutations > for > us to be related in an important genealogical time frame. > > However, by testing another male cousin we discovered that he does not > have > this 3 step mutation. According to Bennett Greenspan this mutation had to > occur with the grandfather of both the cousins or the father of Larry. So > that makes us have only one mutation at DYS534. Now we, (you and I) match > more closely. You have 2 mutations at DYS 464b and DYS 557, add that to > our > one mutation and that makes 3 mutations between us. > > That equates to a 69.18% probability that we are related within 8 > generations which puts us at Silas Sr. If we add in a paper trail and > recalculate the generations our probability number goes down. So at a 3 > step > mutation we need more documentation. We have learned some things in the > last > month or so. > > A cousin has determined that the Canandaigua, Ontario County, New York, > Silas Whitney is not from the 1762 Vermont Silas Whitney Sr. line. We are > extending the 12 marker test of a descendant of that line to see if our > DNA > profile matches. > > So... If our DNA matches this person's then we do not belong to the 1762 > Vermont Silas Whitney line. However, it does not appear that the New York > Silas had a son named Silas, and since we know that we are a descendant of > Silas Newcomb Whitney of Canandaigua of New York, we may not match. I will > be surprised if it does. > > If our DNA does not match it appears that our closest match so far is > Silas > Jr. of Vermont. I have a perfect match With Lowell Thomas Whitney who > traces > his family to Ohio. His family record has it that the father of this Ohio > ancestor was born in New York, so there may be clues there. I about 4 week > we will know whether or not we are linked to the older New York, Silas > Whitney. It appears that the Silas Whitney in the 1820 Census in > Canandaigua > and the 1762 Silas Jr. of Vermont are not the same person. > > I have some Revolutionary war records of Silas Sr. and Silas Jr. of > Vermont. > I can send you copies of those as there are several entries and a > connection > with Peter Powers and a Cyrus Chipman who do move to Ontario County New > York > along with Jarameal Powers father of Peter. So I still think there is a > New > York connection with the Vermont 1762 Silas but as of yet cannot prove it. > > I also have a transcript of a petition of these men to governor Clinton of > N.Y. for redress of lost land due to their support of N.Y. in the border > dispute of New York and Vermont. As of yet I don't know if they were given > land in New York to replace their losses. I am working on pulling this > together and will send it to you when I have finished it. > > I am interested in the last paragraph of your letter > > Whitney, Silas, Jr. Resident of: Name as recorded: Whitney, Silas, Jr. > Petition from Philadelphia (Chittenden) and Chittenden to establish the > ancient town lines. Record Date: 1788-09-23 Series: SE-118 Record Type: > Petition Volume: 22 Record ID: 16817 Page: 172 > > I couldn't fin a Chittenden in PA. There is one in Vermont, which records > does this entry refer to. Do you have anymore details on this? > > I look forward to comparing more information as we gather it. > Gail > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: whitney-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:whitney-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On > Behalf Of James Whitney > Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 10:13 AM > To: whitney@rootsweb.com > Subject: [WHITNEY] Silas Whitney,Jr. born 1762 > > GailandLarry: > > I see where you have your 67 marker DNA results. Looks like we link to > Silas > Whitney. What records do you have on your Silas Whitney,Jr.? My data on > Silas, Jr. is as follows: > > Shown on pay rolls serving with Capt. Salisbury's co. in the Rev. > war -first > service Oct. 17, 1777. > > Revolutionary Soldiers in Vermont > > WHITNEY, Silas, Jr, VT; r Clarendon; Capt Salisbury's co 1777; 41, p 58. > ----------------- > Mass. Town Birth Records > Name: Silas WHITNEY Birth Date: Aug. 15, 1762 Birth Place: Rutland > Father's > Name: Silas Sex: M > This may be the birth registration of Silas, Jr. It was common for the > births to be recorded weeks after the event. > Name: Silas Whitney Birth Date: 15 Aug 1762 Birth Place: Rutland Father's > First Name: Silas Gender: Male Source: Vital Records of Rutland > ----------------- > Index to the 1820 Census for Ontario County, NY > > WHITNEY SILAS CANANDAIGUA 222 > ---------------------- > Whitney, Silas, Jr. Resident of: Name as recorded: Whitney, Silas, Jr. > Petition from Philadelphia (Chittenden) and Chittenden to establish the > ancient town lines. Record Date: 1788-09-23 Series: SE-118 Record Type: > Petition Volume: 22 Record ID: 16817 Page: 172 > > Do you have anything else? > > Sincerely James E. Whitney,II > Family Search ID-PR227 > -----Original Message----- > From: whitney-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:whitney-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On > Behalf Of Gail Anderson > Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 7:23 PM > To: whitney@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [WHITNEY] Website > > I think your right Rose Zella. Thanks for responding so we know we are > still > connected. > > Gail > > -----Original Message----- > From: whitney-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:whitney-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On > Behalf Of Rose Zella Proctor > Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 7:47 PM > To: whitney@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [WHITNEY] Website > > Do you think maybe everyone just has spring fever? > Out here in Wyoming its crazy. Moher's Day it was near 90 degrees. > Got up the next morning to 54 degrees. That just takes the sap out of > you and > seems there is freaky weather all over. So all you Whitney relatives > take care > and we will soon find something interesting in our family tree again. > Rose Zella > On May 16, 2007, at 7:26 PM, Gail Anderson wrote: > >> Hi Ben, >> >> I have been wondering the same thing. There are at least two of us >> alive and >> kicking. Anybody? Anybody? >> >> Gail >> P.S. I got some really good DNA news. I am so happy for who ever had >> the >> foresight to do the surname Test. Thank you, Thank you Thank you. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: whitney-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:whitney-bounces@rootsweb.com] On >> Behalf Of Benjamin Whitney >> Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 3:21 PM >> To: whitney@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [WHITNEY] Website >> >> Greetings, >> >> Is [WHITNEY] still working? >> Or, have I been purged? >> Speak to me, somebody! >> >> Regards, >> Ben >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> WHITNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> WHITNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WHITNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WHITNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.3/809 - Release Date: 5/17/2007 > 5:18 PM > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WHITNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WHITNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.6/813 - Release Date: 5/20/2007 > 7:54 AM > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WHITNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WHITNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.6/813 - Release Date: 5/20/2007 > 7:54 AM > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WHITNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WHITNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I need some help. A few years ago I contacted Jon Aston and he updated my Whitney entries from Jonah 25 Aug 1771 to today in the GedCom database. I have tried to go to the new discussion webpage, but got a blank page. Every time I try to access the John Whitney of Watertown by Jeanne, Allen, or Robert I get a blank page. I would like to add the current updates I have to all three databases. Can someone help me? Pat

I was performing a random act of genealogical kindness for someone in my area and was having trouble locating the headstones she had requested. In searching, I happened upon two Whitney headstones in the same cemetery -- St. Paul's Cemetery in Arlington, MA -- and photographed them, hoping someone else would benefit. I added pages on which to post them to the wiki site, but am not sure how to upload the photos themselves. I am also going to try attaching them to this email. Can someone provide directions on how to add the photos and/or add the photos to the pages? They are: http://wiki.whitneygen.org/wrg/index.php/Archive:Headstone_William_F_Whitney William F Whitney, Jul 10, 1881 - Dec 7, 1959 Ellen M Whitney, Mar 7, 1873 - Jan 10, 1947 Buried in Connors plot http://wiki.whitneygen.org/wrg/index.php/Archive:Headstone_Margaret_Whitney_1873_-_1942 Margaret Whitney, 1873 - 1942 Buried alone Kathy

Subject: A Branch of the Whitney Family. PART 2. Source: New England Historical and Genealogical Register. A BRANCH OF THE WHITNEY FAMILY. Communicated by Dr. L. M. Harris. p.218 Thaddeus Whitney6 (son of Caleb & Hannah) m. 1772, Temperance Hyde, dau. of Lieut. Noah & Ruth (Seger) Hyde. He died 1832 aged 85 yrs. She d. 1842, aged 89 yrs. Children: 1. Temperance Whitney b. Sept 2, 1774 m. Jonathan Cook, Jr. 1795. 2. Ruth Whitney b. 1776, m. ____ Worcester. 3. Hannah Whitney b. April 9, 1779, m. David Wardwell. no issue. 4. Thaddeus Whitney b. Sept 1, 1788; died 1823, unmarried. Timothy Whitney4 (son of Moses & Rebecca Whitney) m. Mary Hyde, 1773. He died 1821; she died 1828. Children: 1. Stephen Whitney b. prob. 1774, m. May 5, 1803, Ruth Whittemore. (had children, not listed.) 2. Timothy Whitney b. prob. 1776, m. Peggy Thayer, dau. of Lott Thayer, 1821. 3. Polly Whitney b. prob. 1778. 4. Peggy Whitney b. prob. 1780, m. Elijah Whitney. 5. Anna Whitney b. prob. 1782. 6. Elisha Whitney b. prob. 1784; died young. Elisha Whitney6, (son of Elijah & Hannah Whitney) m. Abigail Dana of Brookline. His portrait, painted by Stuart is in the possession of his grandson, Benjamin Duick Whitney. Children: 1. Experience Whitney b. Mar 1, 1776. 2. Abigail Whitney b. April 10, 1778. 3. Elijah Whitney b. Feb 4, 1780 m. Sarah Heath (see below) 4. Asa Whitney b. May 18, 1782; m. Mary Hammond (see below) 5. Pede Whitney b. July 20, 1784; m. Colonel Joseph Dudley of Roxbury. (see Vol.X., p.342 - Genealogical Register) 6. William Whitney b. June 17, 1788. 7. Elizabeth Whitney b. Mar 3, 1793. Elisha Whitney7 (son of Elisha & Abigail Whitney) m. Feb 26, 1804, Sarah Heath. He died Feb 12, 1823. Children: 1. Abigail Whitney who married a son of Amasa Gay. John Gay m. a daughter of John Skinner and had two sons. Sarah Gay, unmarried. William Gay, unmarried. Caroline Gay bap. Jan. 6, 1814. Nathaniel Davis Gay bapt. Dec 15, 1816 - (the order of the births not known) Asa Whitney7 (son of Elisha & Abigail Whitney, m. Mary Hammond, dau. of Phineas & Mary (Gay) Hammond. He died March 4, 1826. Children: 1. Benjamin Duick Whitney b. Nov 6, 1807; grad. Harvard Coll. 1828; m. Elizabeth Williams and had 8 children of whom Stephen W. Whitney b. 1841, is now of the class of 1861 - Harvard College. 2. Daniel Hammond Whitney b. Oct 7, 1809; died Oct. 6, 1817. 3. Sarah Hammond Whitney b. May 23, 1812; died June 23, 1817. 4. Mary Whitney b. May 5, 1815; d. April 12, 1845. She m. Prof. Cornelius C. Felton of Harvard University. 5. Emily Whitney b. Sept 27, 1817; m. Dr. Joseph Sargent of Worcester. 6. Asa Hammond Whitney b. June 17, 1819, m. Laura Henshaw of Leicester. He grad. Harvard Coll. 1838. Five children. 7. Sarah Whitney b. July 13, 1822; m. Frederic W. Gale of Worcester. They were both lost in the steamer, Arctic, September 27, 1854. p.219 WHITNEY. 8. Catherine Dean Whitney b. Dec 17, 1824, m. Henry Sargent, M.D. She died September 9, 1849. He died 1858. Notes. The ages of John & Elinor Whitney and of their children as recorded, at the time of their embarkation for New England, in April, 1635, (see Vol. X., Third Series, Massachusetts Historical Collection, p.24) and, as stated in the beginning of the Whitney Genealogy, were doubtless incorrect. It is probable that they were several years older than this record would make them appear. Samuel Whitney of Brunswick and his son Samuel Whitney Jr., were taken prison- ers to Canada, July 24, 1751, and sold for 126 livres. He had a wife and six children. He since made his escape. Solomon Whitney made his escape from the Indians and died in a hospital, Nov. 18, 1750. Timothy Whitney was bought for £315. per "Revolution" Book, Vol. 74 (VIII.) pp. 46 & 59, at the State House, Massachusetts. End. Transcribed by Janice Farnsworth ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Subject: A Branch of the Whitney Family. Source: New England Historical and Genealogical Register. A BRANCH OF THE WHITNEY FAMILY. Communicated by Dr. L. M. Harris. p.215 On looking over the genealogy of the Whitney Family, as given in two late numbers of the NEHGS Register, I find that the family name of the wife of John3 Whitney, son of John2 Whitne and Ruth (Reynolds) Whitney, was not known, either to Dr. Bond or H. A. Whitney. Robert Harris, my emigrant ancestor, was married, January 24, 1642-3, to Elizabeth Boughey at Roxbury, Mass. Their eldest child, Elizabeth Harris, was born November 9, 1644. Their next child, John Harris was baptized Aug. 8, 1647. Elizabeth Harris, dau. of Robert Harris, m. in 1669, John3 Whitney; and John2, son of Robert Harris, m. Sept 20, 1670, Mary, born July 26, 1650, dau. of Richard Sanger of Watertown, Mass. Now, by reading the Will of Robert Reynolds, Vol. IX., p.137, Genealogical Register, you will find that Ruth, the mother of John2 Whitney and Mary, mother of John Harris's wife, were both daughters of the said Reynolds. To make this more intelligible, I give the names of the Patriarch Robert's children in full, and in some order. CHILDREN OF ROBERT & ELIZABETH (BOUGHEY) HARRIS: 1. Elizabeth Harris b. Nov 9, 1644, m. 1669, John3 Whitney of Watertown. 2. John Harris bap. Aug 8, 1647, m. Sept 20, 1670, Mary Sanger, b. July 7, 1650, dau. of Richard Sanger of Watertown. 3. Timothy Harris, b. July 9, 1650 m. April 2, 1697, Abigail Morey, b. March 30, 1681, dau. of Thomas & Susannah Morey of Roxbury, Mass. 4. Daniel Harris b. May 14, 1652, m. June 14, 1682, Joanna Brown. (Parentage not ascertained.) 5. Priscilla Harris b. Oct 7, 1653, died Jan 2, 1718, unmarried. Her Will made December 31, 1717. I find no record of the Patriarch, Robert's death; but his signature to a deed, May 19, 1698 is yet in existence; and a legacy, to be paid two years after his decease, to his daughter, Elizabeth Whitney, is receipted for by herself and her husband, January 14, 1702-3, which makes it probable that he died January, 1700-1. John Whitney, the grandson of John & Elinor Whitney, the first settlers, was made freeman in May, 1684 and died March 4, 1726, aged 83 yrs. "Elizabeth Whitney owned the covenant at Roxbury Church, Feb 30, 1671." The name John Whitney appears in the list of members of the 2nd Church in Roxbury, when gathered by "ye Rev. Nehemiah Walter, November 2, 1712," and, doubtless, he had previously been a member of the first church in Roxbury. His houselot, containing nine acres, was situated in that part of Roxbury called Jamaica Plain; and lying on the right as you pass up Pond Street to the south part of Brookline, which town was called Muddy River until the year 1705. Whitney's lot extended back from the street, westerly, to the line separa- ting Roxbury from Brookline. The late Major Weld of Roxbury, who died in 1852, being then in his 86th year, told me, a short time before his decease, that he well remembered the Whitney house to have been standing in his boyhood. The old tabernacle has, probably, been among the things that were, from 75 to 80 years. Within the last 14 years, two hollows, marking the places of the cellar and well have p.216 A BRANCH OF THE WHITNEY FAMILY been visible; but the plough has since passed over, and obliterated all marks of them. The dwelling-house of Robert Harris stood about six rods over the line into Brookline; and the two houses - Harris's and Whitney's - were about 1/4 mile apart, following the road that leads into Brookline. In the rear of the spot where the old Whitney mansion stood, the ground descends on a gradual slope for several rods to a narrow strip of meadow, through which runs a pleasant little brook. Be- yond the meadow, the ground rises abruptly to an elevation many feet higher than the front of the lot; and still rises, gradually, forming a slope of considerable dimensions and extending westerly to its boundary on Brookline. All that part of the lot lying west of the brook is covered with a fine grove of forest trees. On the removal of the Whitneys, the property came, by purchase, into the possession of the Child family, whose premises it joined, and was by them retained until about four years since, Mr. Stephen Child of Boston, lately deceased, sold the to Mr. Abel Adams. On the elevated plain in the rearward portion of his lot, Mr. Adams has erected a magnificent stone edifice, in the Elizabethan style of architecture, which fairly out-gables Hawthorne's Pynchon house. The numbers given in parentheses refer to the same persons mentioned in the Whitney Genealogy, as given in Vol. XI of the Register, beginning on p. 113 and continued on p.225. JOHN WHITNEY3 (13) John Whitney3 (13) the grandson of John & Elinor Whitney, m. Elizabeth Harris, probably in 1649. He was admitted freeman, May, 1684; died March 4, 1726, aged 83 yrs. ISSUE. 1.(77) Elizabeth Whitney b. Sept 9, 1670. 2.(78) John Whitney b. April 1, 1671; probably died young. 3.(79) Ruth Whitney b. Aug 31, 1674; m. April 22, 1701, John Adams, son of Roger and Mary Adams. They lived in Brookline where she died Nov. 19, 1762 aged 88 yrs. 4.(80) Timothy Whitney b. April 16, 1678. (see below) 5.(81) Daniel Whitney b. Dec 3, 1681. (see below) 6.(82) Sarah Whitney b. Aug 2, 1684. - A Sarah Whitney died July 4, 1689. Timothy Whitney4, (80) m. Margaret Bacon, June 12, 1706. He purchased land of the Prentice family in Newton, in 1728, where he afterwards resided. (See Bond, p.964) His children, as here given, were born in Roxbury: (211) 1. Sarah Whitney b. Feb 28, 1707. (212) 2. Caleb Whitney b. April 7, 1711, m. Hannah Cheney. (see below.) (218) 3. Moses Whitney b. June 20, 1714, m. Rebecca Hyde. (see below.) (232) 4. Joseph Whitney b. Feb 1, 1716, m. Mary Hastings. Children: 1. Abigail Whitney b. Dec 18, 1749. 2. Martha Whitney b. May 31, 1752. 3. Ann Whitney b. Feb 10, 1755. 4. Samuel Whitney b. Aug 7, 1758. 5. Lois Whitney b. Sept 5, 1761. (240) 5. Timothy Whitney b. April 30, 1720 or 1721. Daniel Whitney4, (81) m. at Roxbury, June 21, 1704, Susanna Curtis. Children: (242) 1. John Whitney b. May 23, 1705. (243) 2. Elizabeth Whitney b. Feb 4, 1706-7 (244) 3. Susanna Whitney b. Feb 21, 1708-9. p.217 A BRANCH OF THE WHITNEY FAMILY. 1858. (245) 4. Daniel Whitney b. Mar 25, 1711; m. at Roxbury, Sarah Gray, Mar 7, 1769. (246) 5. Ann Whitney b. April 4, 1713. (247) 6. Elijah Whitney b. Jan 15, 1715, wife Hannah (see below). (248) 7. Ruth Whitney b. Dec 5, 1719. (249) 8. Elisha Whitney b. Oct 15?, 1722, m. Abigail Dana (see below). 9. Esther Whitney bapt. July 11, 1726 (2nd Church Records, Roxbury) m. John White, Mar 8, 1745 (2nd Church Records). Caleb Whitney (212) son of Timothy & Margaret Whitney, m. Hannah Cheney in 1756, dau. of Joseph & Sarah (Wiswall) Cheney of Newton. Children: 1. Hannah Whitney b. Mar 3, 1737; m. Nathaniel Parker, 1772. 2. Caleb Whitney b. June 17, 1740, m. Elizabeth Hyde (see below). 3. Sarah Whitney b. Oct 23, 1743, m. James Richards, J. 1769. She d. 1771. 4. Thaddeus Whitney b. July 10, 1747, m. Temperance Hyde. (see below) Moses Whitney (218) son of Timothy & Margaret Whitney, m. Rebecca Hyde in 1739, the daughter of Ensign Timothy & Rebecca (Davis) Hyde of Newton. Children: 1. Margaret Whitney b. May 8, 1741. 2. Moses Whitney b. April 9, 1743, died in the Revolutionary Army. 3. Mary Whitney b. Feb 1, 1745, m. Edward Richard of Cambridge. 4. Timothy Whitney b. Feb 12, 1747, m. Mary Hyde (see below) 5. Stephen Whitney b. Feb 12, 1747, twin of Timothy, died in the Army. 6. Elizabeth Whitney b. May 30, 1749, m. Asa Payson, 1777. Had son, Asa Payson and two daughters. 7. Ephraim Whitney b. June 16, 1751, m. Ann Fuller, 1774. He died in the Army. 8. Rebecca Whitney b. March 17, 1754, m. William Buzzard, 1780. Children: 1. Betsey Buzzard. 2. Clara Buzzard. 9. Relief Whitney b. Dec 29, 1756, m. John Woodward of Brookline 1783. 10. Gershom Whitney b. July 25, 1758, died 1759. 11. Persis Whitney b. Feb 19, 1760, m. James Richards, 1797. 12. John Whitney b. April 8, 1762, m. Polly Pope, 1785. Children: 1. Moses Whitney 2. Asa Whitney 3. a daughter 4. a daughter. He died suddenly, August 28, 1816, aged 54 yrs. (247) Elijah Whitney, son of Daniel & Susanna Whitney, m. Hannah _____. Children: 1. Elijah Whitney b. Sept 23, 1744. 2. Elisha Whitney b. Oct 6, 1747; m. Abigail Dana. (see below). 3. John Whitney b. Nov 29, 1749. 4. Hannah Whitney b. June 13, 1756. Caleb Whitney, son of Caleb & Hannah Whitney, m. 1765, Elizabeth Hyde. Children: 1. Oliver Whitney b. Mar 9, 1766; died unmarried. 2. Amariah Whitney b. Nov 18, 1767. 3. Ruth Whitney b. May 31, 1773. 4. Sarah Whitney b. June 4, 1774. 5. Abigail Whitney b. Sept 10, 1775. To be continued Part 2 - p.218 - Thaddeus Whitney son of Caleb & Hannah Whitney who m. 1772, Temperance Hyde. Transcribed by Janice Farnsworth ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Lori, There was no message on this posting. Jon Whitney On May 28, 2007, at 6:39 PM, Lori Callaway wrote: > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WHITNEY- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Carol and all, At 10:09 AM 5/28/2007, Carol Cook wrote: >As I continue to search for my Whitney line back to John and Elinor, >I come across many interesting newspaper articles. This morning >on-line I found a death notice for Calvin E. Whitney in the Daily >Evening Bulletin (San Francisco, CA) Monday, November 30, >1891. What is interesting is that he was a prominent merchant who >had recently moved into a new home. A carpenter had left a quantity >of rubbush in the raingutters and Mr. Whitney was determined to >remove the rubbish. Soon after the servant girl heard the crash of >glass at which time she called his wife where upon investigation >they found Mr. Whitney lying at the foot of the main stairs terribly >crushed and dead. He had fallen through the roof skylight to the >main hall, a distance of thirty-five feet. Death was undoubtedly >instananeous, as the deceased's skull was horribly fractured. > >Yesterday I found a biography for Eli Whitney Blake, son of Elihu >and Elizabeth (sister of Eli) Whitney Blake. It states Eli with >brother Philos and John invented and patented a variety of domestic >hardware: door locks, latches, fasteners, and corkscrews. > >I sometimes spend way too much time reading these articles, but find >them fascinating. My question is does anyone want this information >posted to the WRG? Yes, these items are interesting and would be useful to have on our web site. The obituary could be under Archives and then under Newspapers. The biography could be under Archives, then Biographies. Regards, Robert Mr. Robert L. Ward http://wiki.whitneygen.org/wrg/index.php/User:Rlward

Yes, we absolutely want this on the website! Part of the description of the WRG is "The WRG is a group whose members actively seek Whitney data and whenever found, submit it to the mailing list and/or to this site in hopes that it will be of interest to someone else. In this way, we are collectively building a much better understanding of the various families." We encourage you to add this information directly to the WRG website, located at http://wiki.whitneygen.org/. Simply log in (link in the upper right corner), then select "Add a new page" from the navigation links on the right-hand column. Type a title for your new page into the box and press enter. Add your information and save. Robert and I will review, format it, and link your page in as appropriate. Thanks! Tim -----Original Message----- From: whitney-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:whitney-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Carol Cook Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 9:10 AM To: WHITNEY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [WHITNEY] Question As I continue to search for my Whitney line back to John and Elinor, I come across many interesting newspaper articles. This morning on-line I found a death notice for Calvin E. Whitney in the Daily Evening Bulletin (San Francisco, CA) Monday, November 30, 1891. What is interesting is that he was a prominent merchant who had recently moved into a new home. A carpenter had left a quantity of rubbush in the raingutters and Mr. Whitney was determined to remove the rubbish. Soon after the servant girl heard the crash of glass at which time she called his wife where upon investigation they found Mr. Whitney lying at the foot of the main stairs terribly crushed and dead. He had fallen through the roof skylight to the main hall, a distance of thirty-five feet. Death was undoubtedly instananeous, as the deceased's skull was horribly fractured. Yesterday I found a biography for Eli Whitney Blake, son of Elihu and Elizabeth (sister of Eli) Whitney Blake. It states Eli with brother Philos and John invented and patented a variety of domestic hardware: door locks, latches, fasteners, and corkscrews. I sometimes spend way too much time reading these articles, but find them fascinating. My question is does anyone want this information posted to the WRG? Carolyn Whitney Cook _________________________________________________________________ Catch suspicious messages before you open them-with Windows Live Hotmail. http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migratio n_HM_mini_protection_0507

As I continue to search for my Whitney line back to John and Elinor, I come across many interesting newspaper articles. This morning on-line I found a death notice for Calvin E. Whitney in the Daily Evening Bulletin (San Francisco, CA) Monday, November 30, 1891. What is interesting is that he was a prominent merchant who had recently moved into a new home. A carpenter had left a quantity of rubbush in the raingutters and Mr. Whitney was determined to remove the rubbish. Soon after the servant girl heard the crash of glass at which time she called his wife where upon investigation they found Mr. Whitney lying at the foot of the main stairs terribly crushed and dead. He had fallen through the roof skylight to the main hall, a distance of thirty-five feet. Death was undoubtedly instananeous, as the deceased's skull was horribly fractured. Yesterday I found a biography for Eli Whitney Blake, son of Elihu and Elizabeth (sister of Eli) Whitney Blake. It states Eli with brother Philos and John invented and patented a variety of domestic hardware: door locks, latches, fasteners, and corkscrews. I sometimes spend way too much time reading these articles, but find them fascinating. My question is does anyone want this information posted to the WRG? Carolyn Whitney Cook _________________________________________________________________ Catch suspicious messages before you open them—with Windows Live Hotmail. http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_mini_protection_0507

I vote "Absolutely." But, that should ultimately be the decision of the Webmaster. Gerry Tracing Orson Burgess and Elizabeth O'Bolger, their lineage and posterity of the Finger Lakes Region in New York. BURGESS, FELTON, CHAFFEE, CLARK, MACK, METCALF, SLAYTON, TENNEY, WATKINS, WHITNEY; plus HUGHES, MCMAHON, MORRIS, O'BOLGER, TROY and several more. Gerald Eberwein PO Box 605 Naco AZ 85620-0605 (520) 432-1231 NacoGerry@hughes.net -----Original Message----- From: whitney-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:whitney-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Carol Cook Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 7:10 AM To: WHITNEY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [WHITNEY] Question As I continue to search for my Whitney line back to John and Elinor, I come across many interesting newspaper articles. This morning on-line I found a death notice for Calvin E. Whitney in the Daily Evening Bulletin (San Francisco, CA) Monday, November 30, 1891. What is interesting is that he was a prominent merchant who had recently moved into a new home. A carpenter had left a quantity of rubbush in the raingutters and Mr. Whitney was determined to remove the rubbish. Soon after the servant girl heard the crash of glass at which time she called his wife where upon investigation they found Mr. Whitney lying at the foot of the main stairs terribly crushed and dead. He had fallen through the roof skylight to the main hall, a distance of thirty-five feet. Death was undoubtedly instananeous, as the deceased's skull was horribly fractured. Yesterday I found a biography for Eli Whitney Blake, son of Elihu and Elizabeth (sister of Eli) Whitney Blake. It states Eli with brother Philos and John invented and patented a variety of domestic hardware: door locks, latches, fasteners, and corkscrews. I sometimes spend way too much time reading these articles, but find them fascinating. My question is does anyone want this information posted to the WRG? Carolyn Whitney Cook _________________________________________________________________ Catch suspicious messages before you open themwith Windows Live Hotmail. http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM _mini_protection_0507

Re: the origin of Ebenezer Whitney In 1999, Ginger Hoch posted a message saying that "land petition No. 520, 1809 (New Brunswick) stated that he (Ebenezer) was a native of Ireland." Has anyone seen that land petition? It would be very worthwhile to see the exact wording of it. Allan McGillivray

Tim, I have been sitting on the sidelines watching the DNA testing and results, and now I would like to participate myself. I know you and others have given instructions to the procedure to follow to participate in the Whitney DNA study, but quite frankly I don't have a clue what I need to do. Would you be so kind as to let me know what I need to do to participate? Thanks. Casper (Cap) Whitney Dublin, Ohio -----Original Message----- From: Tim Doyle <tim@greenscourt.com> To: Whitney@rootsweb.com Sent: Thu, 24 May 2007 10:51 am Subject: [WHITNEY] DNA Study Progress Whitney DNA Project Status Update We currently have 51 Project participants: * 33 descendants of the American immigrant John Whitney, son of Thomas hitney of Lambeth Marsh, Surrey, England. * 3 descendants of the American immigrant Henry Whitney. * 1 descendant of the American immigrant Samuel Whitney of Bermuda. * 1 descendant of Ebenezer Whitney of New Brunswick, Canada. * 1 descendant of Richard Whitney of Morton Say, Shropshire, England. * 1 descendant of Charles Whitney of Yardley Hastings, Northamptonshire, England. * 1 descendant of William Underwood Whitney of Hereford, England. * 7 individuals who have unique results and appear to not be related to thers currently in the study. * 3 individuals whose results have not yet come in. New Findings: NA results for Ebenezer Whitney of New Brunswick have now come in. It ppears that he was not related to the immigrant John Whitney, and probably ot related to the immigrant Henry Whitney. He may be distantly related to he immigrant Samuel Whitney of Bermuda, but because Samuel's descendants ettled the American south, the connection, if it exists, must be back in ngland. This means that the DNA evidence suggests that Ebenezer Whitney or is ancestor immigrated independently from England. Researchers who have een trying in vain to connect him to other Whitney branches in America hould instead focus on immigration records or records in England. Fund Status: * Seven individuals have made donations totaling $235.00! * Of this, we used $152.00 for the testing of a descendant of Charles hitney of Yardley Hastings, England. * We have also allocated funds to extend the test for the descendant of amuel Whitney from 12 to 25 markers. * If you would like to help further this project financially, please onsider making a donation. Simply go to the following website and specify Whitney as the project. http://www.familytreedna.com/contribution.html Results: The DNA tests give us back a set of numbers for each individual tested. By inding the most common value at each marker, we can estimate what we elieve the immigrant ancestor actually had, if we could test his DNA. So ar, we've been able to come up with the following values for 7 Whitney roups: 1) 13 24 15 11 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 30 17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 29 15 16 17 17 ) 13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 11 13 13 29 16 9 10 11 11 25 14 18 29 15 15 16 16 ) 13 24 14 11 11 16 12 12 12 13 13 29 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ) 13 24 14 11 12 15 12 12 12 13 13 29 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ) 14 24 15 11 11 14 12 12 11 13 13 30 17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 29 15 15 16 17 ) 13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 30 18 9 10 11 12 25 15 19 29 15 15 17 17 ) 13 25 14 11 11 13 12 12 11 13 13 29 1) John Whitney of Watertown, Massachusetts ) Henry Whitney of Long Island, New York ) Samuel Whitney of Bermuda ) Ebenezer Whitney of New Brunswick, Canada ) Richard Whitney of Morton Say, Shropshire, England ) Charles Whitney of Yardley Hastings, Northamptonshire, England ) William Underwood Whitney of Hereford, England Interpretation: Perhaps Related: Henry Whitney & Samuel Whitney (2 out of 12 markers different) Henry Whitney & William Whitney (2 out of 12 markers different) Samuel Whitney & Ebenezer Whitney (2 out of 12 markers different) Samuel Whitney & Charles Whitney (2 out of 12 markers different) Note: The above individuals are probably related, and their Most Recent ommon Ancestor (MRCA) lived somewhere between 1 and 145 generations ago. sing probability, we can state that there is a 95% probability that their RCA lived no longer than 145 generations ago, 90% probability that their RCA lived no longer than 122 generations ago, and 50% probability that heir MRCA lived no longer than 61 generations ago. Extending the test esults would greatly add to the clarity here. Probably not related: John Whitney & Samuel Whitney (3 out of 12 markers different) John Whitney & Richard Whitney (5 out of 37 markers different) John Whitney & Charles Whitney (3 out of 25 markers different) Henry Whitney & Ebenezer Whitney (3 out of 12 markers different) Samuel Whitney & William Whitney (3 out of 12 markers different) Ebenezer Whitney & Charles Whitney (3 out of 12 markers different) Richard Whitney & Charles Whitney (6 out of 25 markers different) Note: For 3 or more mutations out of a 12 marker test, the people are not elated from a genealogical standpoint as their MRCA would be back many, any generations, something like 1,000 to 2,000 years. Not Related: John Whitney & Henry Whitney (9 out of 25 markers different) John Whitney & Ebenezer Whitney (4 out of 12 markers different) John Whitney & William Whitney (5 out of 12 markers different) Henry Whitney & Richard Whitney (7 out of 25 markers different) Henry Whitney & Charles Whitney (8 out of 25 markers different) Samuel Whitney & Richard Whitney (5 out of 12 markers different) Ebenezer Whitney & Richard Whitney (6 out of 12 markers different) Ebenezer Whitney & William Whitney (4 out of 12 markers different) Richard Whitney & William Whitney (5 out of 12 markers different) Charles Whitney & William Whitney (4 out of 12 markers different) As I work on the Whitney DNA Project, a few individuals have had their test esults show that they were not descendants of John, Henry, or Samuel. While he possibility still exists with such cases that an adoption or on-paternal event occurred, there is another option. Because their escendants account for most of the Whitneys in the United States, we tend o think of only John, Henry, and Samuel as being the Whitney immigrants. owever, a quick check in the 1850 census shows that there were 29 Whitney ales who were born in England or Wales. Other census enumerations ndoubtedly list Whitneys who immigrated after 1850 as well. We need to keep n mind that there were many Whitney immigrants, and many of them we have et to discover. im Doyle & Whitney Keen hitney DNA Project Co-Administrators ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WHITNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com.

Cap: We'd love for you to join. Here are the steps: 1) Identify the person to be tested. They need to be a) male, and b) a direct male descent from a Whitney. 2) Go to https://www.familytreedna.com/surname_join.aspx?code=X15927&special=False and fill out the form. If you are having someone other than yourself tested, enter the information for the person being tested, not yourself. You will enter your own information on the second screen.) Select the basic Y-DNA12 test for $99 or the 25, 37, or 67 marker tests if you can afford it and want the entire results faster. 3) Enter your credit card information or information on how they can invoice you, and finish your order. 4) Wait for the kit to arrive. You simply open a plastic covering to remove a swab, rub it inside your cheek, and place the swab tip in a plastic vial. Repeat 2 more times and mail the package back. 5) Wait for the results to come in. This is the hardest part as it does take a while! We look forward to having you and any others who want to join up participate with us. Tim -----Original Message----- From: whitney-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:whitney-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of uwacap@aol.com Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 5:04 PM To: whitney@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WHITNEY] DNA Study Progress Tim, I have been sitting on the sidelines watching the DNA testing and results, and now I would like to participate myself. I know you and others have given instructions to the procedure to follow to participate in the Whitney DNA study, but quite frankly I don't have a clue what I need to do. Would you be so kind as to let me know what I need to do to participate? Thanks. Casper (Cap) Whitney Dublin, Ohio -----Original Message----- From: Tim Doyle <tim@greenscourt.com> To: Whitney@rootsweb.com Sent: Thu, 24 May 2007 10:51 am Subject: [WHITNEY] DNA Study Progress Whitney DNA Project Status Update We currently have 51 Project participants: * 33 descendants of the American immigrant John Whitney, son of Thomas hitney of Lambeth Marsh, Surrey, England. * 3 descendants of the American immigrant Henry Whitney. * 1 descendant of the American immigrant Samuel Whitney of Bermuda. * 1 descendant of Ebenezer Whitney of New Brunswick, Canada. * 1 descendant of Richard Whitney of Morton Say, Shropshire, England. * 1 descendant of Charles Whitney of Yardley Hastings, Northamptonshire, England. * 1 descendant of William Underwood Whitney of Hereford, England. * 7 individuals who have unique results and appear to not be related to thers currently in the study. * 3 individuals whose results have not yet come in. New Findings: NA results for Ebenezer Whitney of New Brunswick have now come in. It ppears that he was not related to the immigrant John Whitney, and probably ot related to the immigrant Henry Whitney. He may be distantly related to he immigrant Samuel Whitney of Bermuda, but because Samuel's descendants ettled the American south, the connection, if it exists, must be back in ngland. This means that the DNA evidence suggests that Ebenezer Whitney or is ancestor immigrated independently from England. Researchers who have een trying in vain to connect him to other Whitney branches in America hould instead focus on immigration records or records in England. Fund Status: * Seven individuals have made donations totaling $235.00! * Of this, we used $152.00 for the testing of a descendant of Charles hitney of Yardley Hastings, England. * We have also allocated funds to extend the test for the descendant of amuel Whitney from 12 to 25 markers. * If you would like to help further this project financially, please onsider making a donation. Simply go to the following website and specify Whitney as the project. http://www.familytreedna.com/contribution.html Results: The DNA tests give us back a set of numbers for each individual tested. By inding the most common value at each marker, we can estimate what we elieve the immigrant ancestor actually had, if we could test his DNA. So ar, we've been able to come up with the following values for 7 Whitney roups: 1) 13 24 15 11 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 30 17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 29 15 16 17 17 ) 13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 11 13 13 29 16 9 10 11 11 25 14 18 29 15 15 16 16 ) 13 24 14 11 11 16 12 12 12 13 13 29 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ) 13 24 14 11 12 15 12 12 12 13 13 29 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ) 14 24 15 11 11 14 12 12 11 13 13 30 17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 29 15 15 16 17 ) 13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 30 18 9 10 11 12 25 15 19 29 15 15 17 17 ) 13 25 14 11 11 13 12 12 11 13 13 29 1) John Whitney of Watertown, Massachusetts ) Henry Whitney of Long Island, New York ) Samuel Whitney of Bermuda ) Ebenezer Whitney of New Brunswick, Canada ) Richard Whitney of Morton Say, Shropshire, England ) Charles Whitney of Yardley Hastings, Northamptonshire, England ) William Underwood Whitney of Hereford, England Interpretation: Perhaps Related: Henry Whitney & Samuel Whitney (2 out of 12 markers different) Henry Whitney & William Whitney (2 out of 12 markers different) Samuel Whitney & Ebenezer Whitney (2 out of 12 markers different) Samuel Whitney & Charles Whitney (2 out of 12 markers different) Note: The above individuals are probably related, and their Most Recent ommon Ancestor (MRCA) lived somewhere between 1 and 145 generations ago. sing probability, we can state that there is a 95% probability that their RCA lived no longer than 145 generations ago, 90% probability that their RCA lived no longer than 122 generations ago, and 50% probability that heir MRCA lived no longer than 61 generations ago. Extending the test esults would greatly add to the clarity here. Probably not related: John Whitney & Samuel Whitney (3 out of 12 markers different) John Whitney & Richard Whitney (5 out of 37 markers different) John Whitney & Charles Whitney (3 out of 25 markers different) Henry Whitney & Ebenezer Whitney (3 out of 12 markers different) Samuel Whitney & William Whitney (3 out of 12 markers different) Ebenezer Whitney & Charles Whitney (3 out of 12 markers different) Richard Whitney & Charles Whitney (6 out of 25 markers different) Note: For 3 or more mutations out of a 12 marker test, the people are not elated from a genealogical standpoint as their MRCA would be back many, any generations, something like 1,000 to 2,000 years. Not Related: John Whitney & Henry Whitney (9 out of 25 markers different) John Whitney & Ebenezer Whitney (4 out of 12 markers different) John Whitney & William Whitney (5 out of 12 markers different) Henry Whitney & Richard Whitney (7 out of 25 markers different) Henry Whitney & Charles Whitney (8 out of 25 markers different) Samuel Whitney & Richard Whitney (5 out of 12 markers different) Ebenezer Whitney & Richard Whitney (6 out of 12 markers different) Ebenezer Whitney & William Whitney (4 out of 12 markers different) Richard Whitney & William Whitney (5 out of 12 markers different) Charles Whitney & William Whitney (4 out of 12 markers different) As I work on the Whitney DNA Project, a few individuals have had their test esults show that they were not descendants of John, Henry, or Samuel. While he possibility still exists with such cases that an adoption or on-paternal event occurred, there is another option. Because their escendants account for most of the Whitneys in the United States, we tend o think of only John, Henry, and Samuel as being the Whitney immigrants. owever, a quick check in the 1850 census shows that there were 29 Whitney ales who were born in England or Wales. Other census enumerations ndoubtedly list Whitneys who immigrated after 1850 as well. We need to keep n mind that there were many Whitney immigrants, and many of them we have et to discover. im Doyle & Whitney Keen hitney DNA Project Co-Administrators ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WHITNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WHITNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Whitney DNA Project Status Update We currently have 51 Project participants: * 33 descendants of the American immigrant John Whitney, son of Thomas Whitney of Lambeth Marsh, Surrey, England. * 3 descendants of the American immigrant Henry Whitney. * 1 descendant of the American immigrant Samuel Whitney of Bermuda. * 1 descendant of Ebenezer Whitney of New Brunswick, Canada. * 1 descendant of Richard Whitney of Morton Say, Shropshire, England. * 1 descendant of Charles Whitney of Yardley Hastings, Northamptonshire, England. * 1 descendant of William Underwood Whitney of Hereford, England. * 7 individuals who have unique results and appear to not be related to others currently in the study. * 3 individuals whose results have not yet come in. New Findings: DNA results for Ebenezer Whitney of New Brunswick have now come in. It appears that he was not related to the immigrant John Whitney, and probably not related to the immigrant Henry Whitney. He may be distantly related to the immigrant Samuel Whitney of Bermuda, but because Samuel's descendants settled the American south, the connection, if it exists, must be back in England. This means that the DNA evidence suggests that Ebenezer Whitney or his ancestor immigrated independently from England. Researchers who have been trying in vain to connect him to other Whitney branches in America should instead focus on immigration records or records in England. Fund Status: * Seven individuals have made donations totaling $235.00! * Of this, we used $152.00 for the testing of a descendant of Charles Whitney of Yardley Hastings, England. * We have also allocated funds to extend the test for the descendant of Samuel Whitney from 12 to 25 markers. * If you would like to help further this project financially, please consider making a donation. Simply go to the following website and specify Whitney as the project. http://www.familytreedna.com/contribution.html Results: The DNA tests give us back a set of numbers for each individual tested. By finding the most common value at each marker, we can estimate what we believe the immigrant ancestor actually had, if we could test his DNA. So far, we've been able to come up with the following values for 7 Whitney groups: 1) 13 24 15 11 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 30 17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 29 15 16 17 17 2) 13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 11 13 13 29 16 9 10 11 11 25 14 18 29 15 15 16 16 3) 13 24 14 11 11 16 12 12 12 13 13 29 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 4) 13 24 14 11 12 15 12 12 12 13 13 29 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 5) 14 24 15 11 11 14 12 12 11 13 13 30 17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 29 15 15 16 17 6) 13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 30 18 9 10 11 12 25 15 19 29 15 15 17 17 7) 13 25 14 11 11 13 12 12 11 13 13 29 1) John Whitney of Watertown, Massachusetts 2) Henry Whitney of Long Island, New York 3) Samuel Whitney of Bermuda 4) Ebenezer Whitney of New Brunswick, Canada 5) Richard Whitney of Morton Say, Shropshire, England 6) Charles Whitney of Yardley Hastings, Northamptonshire, England 7) William Underwood Whitney of Hereford, England Interpretation: Perhaps Related: Henry Whitney & Samuel Whitney (2 out of 12 markers different) Henry Whitney & William Whitney (2 out of 12 markers different) Samuel Whitney & Ebenezer Whitney (2 out of 12 markers different) Samuel Whitney & Charles Whitney (2 out of 12 markers different) Note: The above individuals are probably related, and their Most Recent Common Ancestor (MRCA) lived somewhere between 1 and 145 generations ago. Using probability, we can state that there is a 95% probability that their MRCA lived no longer than 145 generations ago, 90% probability that their MRCA lived no longer than 122 generations ago, and 50% probability that their MRCA lived no longer than 61 generations ago. Extending the test results would greatly add to the clarity here. Probably not related: John Whitney & Samuel Whitney (3 out of 12 markers different) John Whitney & Richard Whitney (5 out of 37 markers different) John Whitney & Charles Whitney (3 out of 25 markers different) Henry Whitney & Ebenezer Whitney (3 out of 12 markers different) Samuel Whitney & William Whitney (3 out of 12 markers different) Ebenezer Whitney & Charles Whitney (3 out of 12 markers different) Richard Whitney & Charles Whitney (6 out of 25 markers different) Note: For 3 or more mutations out of a 12 marker test, the people are not related from a genealogical standpoint as their MRCA would be back many, many generations, something like 1,000 to 2,000 years. Not Related: John Whitney & Henry Whitney (9 out of 25 markers different) John Whitney & Ebenezer Whitney (4 out of 12 markers different) John Whitney & William Whitney (5 out of 12 markers different) Henry Whitney & Richard Whitney (7 out of 25 markers different) Henry Whitney & Charles Whitney (8 out of 25 markers different) Samuel Whitney & Richard Whitney (5 out of 12 markers different) Ebenezer Whitney & Richard Whitney (6 out of 12 markers different) Ebenezer Whitney & William Whitney (4 out of 12 markers different) Richard Whitney & William Whitney (5 out of 12 markers different) Charles Whitney & William Whitney (4 out of 12 markers different) As I work on the Whitney DNA Project, a few individuals have had their test results show that they were not descendants of John, Henry, or Samuel. While the possibility still exists with such cases that an adoption or non-paternal event occurred, there is another option. Because their descendants account for most of the Whitneys in the United States, we tend to think of only John, Henry, and Samuel as being the Whitney immigrants. However, a quick check in the 1850 census shows that there were 29 Whitney males who were born in England or Wales. Other census enumerations undoubtedly list Whitneys who immigrated after 1850 as well. We need to keep in mind that there were many Whitney immigrants, and many of them we have yet to discover. Tim Doyle & Whitney Keen Whitney DNA Project Co-Administrators

Yes. I would love to have these pictures. Please email them to me at jameswhitney1716@comcast.net. Thank you, James E. Whitney,II -----Original Message----- From: whitney-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:whitney-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ted Whitney Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 8:55 PM To: whitney@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WHITNEY] Silas Whitney,Jr. born 1762 I have some pictures of the Whitney cemetary in Claredon, VT where Silas and his wife are buried if you are interested let me know. Ted Whitney ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Whitney" <jameswhitney1716@comcast.net> To: <whitney@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 9:36 AM Subject: Re: [WHITNEY] Silas Whitney,Jr. born 1762 > Most of these are from the Vermont Town records as found at Ancestry.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: whitney-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:whitney-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On > Behalf Of Gail Anderson > Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 10:08 PM > To: whitney@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [WHITNEY] Silas Whitney,Jr. born 1762 > > Hi James I have made you a couple of CD's with documents on them. I hope > you > can open word documents. Some are PDF's Let me know. I need your address. > I > will send them tomorrow. Where did these records come from and where can I > find them do you know? > > Gail > > Whitney, Silas, Jr. Resident of: Name as recorded: Whitney, Silas, Jr. > Petition from Philadelphia (Chittenden) and Chittenden to establish the > ancient town lines. Record Date: 1788-09-23 Series: SE-118 Record Type: > Petition Volume: 22 Record ID: 16817 Page: 172 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: whitney-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:whitney-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On > Behalf Of James Whitney > Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 9:33 AM > To: whitney@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [WHITNEY] Silas Whitney,Jr. born 1762 > > Yes, I would highly desire the Silas Whitney Rev. war records. The town > mentioned in the last record is Chittenden, Vermont. > Do you know anything about Silas Whitney's wife-Ester Weeks? > James E. Whitney,II > email jameswhitney1716@comcast.net > -----Original Message----- > From: whitney-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:whitney-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On > Behalf Of Gail Anderson > Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2007 9:42 PM > To: whitney@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [WHITNEY] Silas Whitney,Jr. born 1762 > > Hi James, > > I just got results back on a cousin of Larry's. You may have noticed a 3 > step mutation on marker DYS 413a on the DNA chart for Larry. This has been > a > problem while using the "stepwise model" that FamilyTreeDNA uses because > it > counts it as 3 mutations instead of one mutation. The infinite allele > model > just counts it as a one step mutation. So, that makes too many mutations > for > us to be related in an important genealogical time frame. > > However, by testing another male cousin we discovered that he does not > have > this 3 step mutation. According to Bennett Greenspan this mutation had to > occur with the grandfather of both the cousins or the father of Larry. So > that makes us have only one mutation at DYS534. Now we, (you and I) match > more closely. You have 2 mutations at DYS 464b and DYS 557, add that to > our > one mutation and that makes 3 mutations between us. > > That equates to a 69.18% probability that we are related within 8 > generations which puts us at Silas Sr. If we add in a paper trail and > recalculate the generations our probability number goes down. So at a 3 > step > mutation we need more documentation. We have learned some things in the > last > month or so. > > A cousin has determined that the Canandaigua, Ontario County, New York, > Silas Whitney is not from the 1762 Vermont Silas Whitney Sr. line. We are > extending the 12 marker test of a descendant of that line to see if our > DNA > profile matches. > > So... If our DNA matches this person's then we do not belong to the 1762 > Vermont Silas Whitney line. However, it does not appear that the New York > Silas had a son named Silas, and since we know that we are a descendant of > Silas Newcomb Whitney of Canandaigua of New York, we may not match. I will > be surprised if it does. > > If our DNA does not match it appears that our closest match so far is > Silas > Jr. of Vermont. I have a perfect match With Lowell Thomas Whitney who > traces > his family to Ohio. His family record has it that the father of this Ohio > ancestor was born in New York, so there may be clues there. I about 4 week > we will know whether or not we are linked to the older New York, Silas > Whitney. It appears that the Silas Whitney in the 1820 Census in > Canandaigua > and the 1762 Silas Jr. of Vermont are not the same person. > > I have some Revolutionary war records of Silas Sr. and Silas Jr. of > Vermont. > I can send you copies of those as there are several entries and a > connection > with Peter Powers and a Cyrus Chipman who do move to Ontario County New > York > along with Jarameal Powers father of Peter. So I still think there is a > New > York connection with the Vermont 1762 Silas but as of yet cannot prove it. > > I also have a transcript of a petition of these men to governor Clinton of > N.Y. for redress of lost land due to their support of N.Y. in the border > dispute of New York and Vermont. As of yet I don't know if they were given > land in New York to replace their losses. I am working on pulling this > together and will send it to you when I have finished it. > > I am interested in the last paragraph of your letter > > Whitney, Silas, Jr. Resident of: Name as recorded: Whitney, Silas, Jr. > Petition from Philadelphia (Chittenden) and Chittenden to establish the > ancient town lines. Record Date: 1788-09-23 Series: SE-118 Record Type: > Petition Volume: 22 Record ID: 16817 Page: 172 > > I couldn't fin a Chittenden in PA. There is one in Vermont, which records > does this entry refer to. Do you have anymore details on this? > > I look forward to comparing more information as we gather it. > Gail > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: whitney-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:whitney-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On > Behalf Of James Whitney > Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 10:13 AM > To: whitney@rootsweb.com > Subject: [WHITNEY] Silas Whitney,Jr. born 1762 > > GailandLarry: > > I see where you have your 67 marker DNA results. Looks like we link to > Silas > Whitney. What records do you have on your Silas Whitney,Jr.? My data on > Silas, Jr. is as follows: > > Shown on pay rolls serving with Capt. Salisbury's co. in the Rev. > war -first > service Oct. 17, 1777. > > Revolutionary Soldiers in Vermont > > WHITNEY, Silas, Jr, VT; r Clarendon; Capt Salisbury's co 1777; 41, p 58. > ----------------- > Mass. Town Birth Records > Name: Silas WHITNEY Birth Date: Aug. 15, 1762 Birth Place: Rutland > Father's > Name: Silas Sex: M > This may be the birth registration of Silas, Jr. It was common for the > births to be recorded weeks after the event. > Name: Silas Whitney Birth Date: 15 Aug 1762 Birth Place: Rutland Father's > First Name: Silas Gender: Male Source: Vital Records of Rutland > ----------------- > Index to the 1820 Census for Ontario County, NY > > WHITNEY SILAS CANANDAIGUA 222 > ---------------------- > Whitney, Silas, Jr. Resident of: Name as recorded: Whitney, Silas, Jr. > Petition from Philadelphia (Chittenden) and Chittenden to establish the > ancient town lines. Record Date: 1788-09-23 Series: SE-118 Record Type: > Petition Volume: 22 Record ID: 16817 Page: 172 > > Do you have anything else? > > Sincerely James E. Whitney,II > Family Search ID-PR227 > -----Original Message----- > From: whitney-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:whitney-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On > Behalf Of Gail Anderson > Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 7:23 PM > To: whitney@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [WHITNEY] Website > > I think your right Rose Zella. Thanks for responding so we know we are > still > connected. > > Gail > > -----Original Message----- > From: whitney-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:whitney-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On > Behalf Of Rose Zella Proctor > Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 7:47 PM > To: whitney@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [WHITNEY] Website > > Do you think maybe everyone just has spring fever? > Out here in Wyoming its crazy. Moher's Day it was near 90 degrees. > Got up the next morning to 54 degrees. That just takes the sap out of > you and > seems there is freaky weather all over. So all you Whitney relatives > take care > and we will soon find something interesting in our family tree again. > Rose Zella > On May 16, 2007, at 7:26 PM, Gail Anderson wrote: > >> Hi Ben, >> >> I have been wondering the same thing. There are at least two of us >> alive and >> kicking. Anybody? Anybody? >> >> Gail >> P.S. I got some really good DNA news. I am so happy for who ever had >> the >> foresight to do the surname Test. Thank you, Thank you Thank you. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: whitney-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:whitney-bounces@rootsweb.com] On >> Behalf Of Benjamin Whitney >> Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 3:21 PM >> To: whitney@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [WHITNEY] Website >> >> Greetings, >> >> Is [WHITNEY] still working? >> Or, have I been purged? >> Speak to me, somebody! >> >> Regards, >> Ben >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> WHITNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> WHITNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WHITNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WHITNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.3/809 - Release Date: 5/17/2007 > 5:18 PM > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WHITNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WHITNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.6/813 - Release Date: 5/20/2007 > 7:54 AM > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WHITNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WHITNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.6/813 - Release Date: 5/20/2007 > 7:54 AM > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WHITNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WHITNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. 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Thank you Ted I would love the picture. Would you like me to send you a CD of the Revolutionary war service of Silas? Are you related to him? If you want the CD give me your address. You can email it to me at joelandgail@msn.com. Thanks Again Gail -----Original Message----- From: whitney-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:whitney-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ted Whitney Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 6:55 PM To: whitney@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WHITNEY] Silas Whitney,Jr. born 1762 I have some pictures of the Whitney cemetary in Claredon, VT where Silas and his wife are buried if you are interested let me know. Ted Whitney ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Whitney" <jameswhitney1716@comcast.net> To: <whitney@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 9:36 AM Subject: Re: [WHITNEY] Silas Whitney,Jr. born 1762 > Most of these are from the Vermont Town records as found at Ancestry.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: whitney-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:whitney-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On > Behalf Of Gail Anderson > Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 10:08 PM > To: whitney@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [WHITNEY] Silas Whitney,Jr. born 1762 > > Hi James I have made you a couple of CD's with documents on them. I hope > you > can open word documents. Some are PDF's Let me know. I need your address. > I > will send them tomorrow. Where did these records come from and where can I > find them do you know? > > Gail > > Whitney, Silas, Jr. Resident of: Name as recorded: Whitney, Silas, Jr. > Petition from Philadelphia (Chittenden) and Chittenden to establish the > ancient town lines. Record Date: 1788-09-23 Series: SE-118 Record Type: > Petition Volume: 22 Record ID: 16817 Page: 172 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: whitney-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:whitney-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On > Behalf Of James Whitney > Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 9:33 AM > To: whitney@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [WHITNEY] Silas Whitney,Jr. born 1762 > > Yes, I would highly desire the Silas Whitney Rev. war records. The town > mentioned in the last record is Chittenden, Vermont. > Do you know anything about Silas Whitney's wife-Ester Weeks? > James E. Whitney,II > email jameswhitney1716@comcast.net > -----Original Message----- > From: whitney-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:whitney-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On > Behalf Of Gail Anderson > Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2007 9:42 PM > To: whitney@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [WHITNEY] Silas Whitney,Jr. born 1762 > > Hi James, > > I just got results back on a cousin of Larry's. You may have noticed a 3 > step mutation on marker DYS 413a on the DNA chart for Larry. This has been > a > problem while using the "stepwise model" that FamilyTreeDNA uses because > it > counts it as 3 mutations instead of one mutation. The infinite allele > model > just counts it as a one step mutation. So, that makes too many mutations > for > us to be related in an important genealogical time frame. > > However, by testing another male cousin we discovered that he does not > have > this 3 step mutation. According to Bennett Greenspan this mutation had to > occur with the grandfather of both the cousins or the father of Larry. So > that makes us have only one mutation at DYS534. Now we, (you and I) match > more closely. You have 2 mutations at DYS 464b and DYS 557, add that to > our > one mutation and that makes 3 mutations between us. > > That equates to a 69.18% probability that we are related within 8 > generations which puts us at Silas Sr. If we add in a paper trail and > recalculate the generations our probability number goes down. So at a 3 > step > mutation we need more documentation. We have learned some things in the > last > month or so. > > A cousin has determined that the Canandaigua, Ontario County, New York, > Silas Whitney is not from the 1762 Vermont Silas Whitney Sr. line. We are > extending the 12 marker test of a descendant of that line to see if our > DNA > profile matches. > > So... If our DNA matches this person's then we do not belong to the 1762 > Vermont Silas Whitney line. However, it does not appear that the New York > Silas had a son named Silas, and since we know that we are a descendant of > Silas Newcomb Whitney of Canandaigua of New York, we may not match. I will > be surprised if it does. > > If our DNA does not match it appears that our closest match so far is > Silas > Jr. of Vermont. I have a perfect match With Lowell Thomas Whitney who > traces > his family to Ohio. His family record has it that the father of this Ohio > ancestor was born in New York, so there may be clues there. I about 4 week > we will know whether or not we are linked to the older New York, Silas > Whitney. It appears that the Silas Whitney in the 1820 Census in > Canandaigua > and the 1762 Silas Jr. of Vermont are not the same person. > > I have some Revolutionary war records of Silas Sr. and Silas Jr. of > Vermont. > I can send you copies of those as there are several entries and a > connection > with Peter Powers and a Cyrus Chipman who do move to Ontario County New > York > along with Jarameal Powers father of Peter. So I still think there is a > New > York connection with the Vermont 1762 Silas but as of yet cannot prove it. > > I also have a transcript of a petition of these men to governor Clinton of > N.Y. for redress of lost land due to their support of N.Y. in the border > dispute of New York and Vermont. As of yet I don't know if they were given > land in New York to replace their losses. I am working on pulling this > together and will send it to you when I have finished it. > > I am interested in the last paragraph of your letter > > Whitney, Silas, Jr. Resident of: Name as recorded: Whitney, Silas, Jr. > Petition from Philadelphia (Chittenden) and Chittenden to establish the > ancient town lines. Record Date: 1788-09-23 Series: SE-118 Record Type: > Petition Volume: 22 Record ID: 16817 Page: 172 > > I couldn't fin a Chittenden in PA. There is one in Vermont, which records > does this entry refer to. Do you have anymore details on this? > > I look forward to comparing more information as we gather it. > Gail > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: whitney-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:whitney-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On > Behalf Of James Whitney > Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 10:13 AM > To: whitney@rootsweb.com > Subject: [WHITNEY] Silas Whitney,Jr. born 1762 > > GailandLarry: > > I see where you have your 67 marker DNA results. Looks like we link to > Silas > Whitney. What records do you have on your Silas Whitney,Jr.? My data on > Silas, Jr. is as follows: > > Shown on pay rolls serving with Capt. Salisbury's co. in the Rev. > war -first > service Oct. 17, 1777. > > Revolutionary Soldiers in Vermont > > WHITNEY, Silas, Jr, VT; r Clarendon; Capt Salisbury's co 1777; 41, p 58. > ----------------- > Mass. Town Birth Records > Name: Silas WHITNEY Birth Date: Aug. 15, 1762 Birth Place: Rutland > Father's > Name: Silas Sex: M > This may be the birth registration of Silas, Jr. It was common for the > births to be recorded weeks after the event. > Name: Silas Whitney Birth Date: 15 Aug 1762 Birth Place: Rutland Father's > First Name: Silas Gender: Male Source: Vital Records of Rutland > ----------------- > Index to the 1820 Census for Ontario County, NY > > WHITNEY SILAS CANANDAIGUA 222 > ---------------------- > Whitney, Silas, Jr. Resident of: Name as recorded: Whitney, Silas, Jr. > Petition from Philadelphia (Chittenden) and Chittenden to establish the > ancient town lines. Record Date: 1788-09-23 Series: SE-118 Record Type: > Petition Volume: 22 Record ID: 16817 Page: 172 > > Do you have anything else? > > Sincerely James E. Whitney,II > Family Search ID-PR227 > -----Original Message----- > From: whitney-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:whitney-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On > Behalf Of Gail Anderson > Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 7:23 PM > To: whitney@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [WHITNEY] Website > > I think your right Rose Zella. Thanks for responding so we know we are > still > connected. > > Gail > > -----Original Message----- > From: whitney-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:whitney-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On > Behalf Of Rose Zella Proctor > Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 7:47 PM > To: whitney@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [WHITNEY] Website > > Do you think maybe everyone just has spring fever? > Out here in Wyoming its crazy. Moher's Day it was near 90 degrees. > Got up the next morning to 54 degrees. That just takes the sap out of > you and > seems there is freaky weather all over. So all you Whitney relatives > take care > and we will soon find something interesting in our family tree again. > Rose Zella > On May 16, 2007, at 7:26 PM, Gail Anderson wrote: > >> Hi Ben, >> >> I have been wondering the same thing. There are at least two of us >> alive and >> kicking. Anybody? Anybody? >> >> Gail >> P.S. I got some really good DNA news. I am so happy for who ever had >> the >> foresight to do the surname Test. Thank you, Thank you Thank you. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: whitney-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:whitney-bounces@rootsweb.com] On >> Behalf Of Benjamin Whitney >> Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 3:21 PM >> To: whitney@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [WHITNEY] Website >> >> Greetings, >> >> Is [WHITNEY] still working? >> Or, have I been purged? >> Speak to me, somebody! >> >> Regards, >> Ben >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> WHITNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> WHITNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WHITNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WHITNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.3/809 - Release Date: 5/17/2007 > 5:18 PM > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WHITNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WHITNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.6/813 - Release Date: 5/20/2007 > 7:54 AM > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WHITNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WHITNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.6/813 - Release Date: 5/20/2007 > 7:54 AM > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WHITNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WHITNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have some pictures of the Whitney cemetary in Claredon, VT where Silas and his wife are buried if you are interested let me know. Ted Whitney ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Whitney" <jameswhitney1716@comcast.net> To: <whitney@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 9:36 AM Subject: Re: [WHITNEY] Silas Whitney,Jr. born 1762 > Most of these are from the Vermont Town records as found at Ancestry.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: whitney-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:whitney-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On > Behalf Of Gail Anderson > Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 10:08 PM > To: whitney@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [WHITNEY] Silas Whitney,Jr. born 1762 > > Hi James I have made you a couple of CD's with documents on them. I hope > you > can open word documents. Some are PDF's Let me know. I need your address. > I > will send them tomorrow. Where did these records come from and where can I > find them do you know? > > Gail > > Whitney, Silas, Jr. Resident of: Name as recorded: Whitney, Silas, Jr. > Petition from Philadelphia (Chittenden) and Chittenden to establish the > ancient town lines. Record Date: 1788-09-23 Series: SE-118 Record Type: > Petition Volume: 22 Record ID: 16817 Page: 172 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: whitney-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:whitney-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On > Behalf Of James Whitney > Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 9:33 AM > To: whitney@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [WHITNEY] Silas Whitney,Jr. born 1762 > > Yes, I would highly desire the Silas Whitney Rev. war records. The town > mentioned in the last record is Chittenden, Vermont. > Do you know anything about Silas Whitney's wife-Ester Weeks? > James E. Whitney,II > email jameswhitney1716@comcast.net > -----Original Message----- > From: whitney-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:whitney-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On > Behalf Of Gail Anderson > Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2007 9:42 PM > To: whitney@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [WHITNEY] Silas Whitney,Jr. born 1762 > > Hi James, > > I just got results back on a cousin of Larry's. You may have noticed a 3 > step mutation on marker DYS 413a on the DNA chart for Larry. This has been > a > problem while using the "stepwise model" that FamilyTreeDNA uses because > it > counts it as 3 mutations instead of one mutation. The infinite allele > model > just counts it as a one step mutation. So, that makes too many mutations > for > us to be related in an important genealogical time frame. > > However, by testing another male cousin we discovered that he does not > have > this 3 step mutation. According to Bennett Greenspan this mutation had to > occur with the grandfather of both the cousins or the father of Larry. So > that makes us have only one mutation at DYS534. Now we, (you and I) match > more closely. You have 2 mutations at DYS 464b and DYS 557, add that to > our > one mutation and that makes 3 mutations between us. > > That equates to a 69.18% probability that we are related within 8 > generations which puts us at Silas Sr. If we add in a paper trail and > recalculate the generations our probability number goes down. So at a 3 > step > mutation we need more documentation. We have learned some things in the > last > month or so. > > A cousin has determined that the Canandaigua, Ontario County, New York, > Silas Whitney is not from the 1762 Vermont Silas Whitney Sr. line. We are > extending the 12 marker test of a descendant of that line to see if our > DNA > profile matches. > > So... If our DNA matches this person's then we do not belong to the 1762 > Vermont Silas Whitney line. However, it does not appear that the New York > Silas had a son named Silas, and since we know that we are a descendant of > Silas Newcomb Whitney of Canandaigua of New York, we may not match. I will > be surprised if it does. > > If our DNA does not match it appears that our closest match so far is > Silas > Jr. of Vermont. I have a perfect match With Lowell Thomas Whitney who > traces > his family to Ohio. His family record has it that the father of this Ohio > ancestor was born in New York, so there may be clues there. I about 4 week > we will know whether or not we are linked to the older New York, Silas > Whitney. It appears that the Silas Whitney in the 1820 Census in > Canandaigua > and the 1762 Silas Jr. of Vermont are not the same person. > > I have some Revolutionary war records of Silas Sr. and Silas Jr. of > Vermont. > I can send you copies of those as there are several entries and a > connection > with Peter Powers and a Cyrus Chipman who do move to Ontario County New > York > along with Jarameal Powers father of Peter. So I still think there is a > New > York connection with the Vermont 1762 Silas but as of yet cannot prove it. > > I also have a transcript of a petition of these men to governor Clinton of > N.Y. for redress of lost land due to their support of N.Y. in the border > dispute of New York and Vermont. As of yet I don't know if they were given > land in New York to replace their losses. I am working on pulling this > together and will send it to you when I have finished it. > > I am interested in the last paragraph of your letter > > Whitney, Silas, Jr. Resident of: Name as recorded: Whitney, Silas, Jr. > Petition from Philadelphia (Chittenden) and Chittenden to establish the > ancient town lines. Record Date: 1788-09-23 Series: SE-118 Record Type: > Petition Volume: 22 Record ID: 16817 Page: 172 > > I couldn't fin a Chittenden in PA. There is one in Vermont, which records > does this entry refer to. Do you have anymore details on this? > > I look forward to comparing more information as we gather it. > Gail > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: whitney-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:whitney-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On > Behalf Of James Whitney > Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 10:13 AM > To: whitney@rootsweb.com > Subject: [WHITNEY] Silas Whitney,Jr. born 1762 > > GailandLarry: > > I see where you have your 67 marker DNA results. Looks like we link to > Silas > Whitney. What records do you have on your Silas Whitney,Jr.? My data on > Silas, Jr. is as follows: > > Shown on pay rolls serving with Capt. Salisbury's co. in the Rev. > war -first > service Oct. 17, 1777. > > Revolutionary Soldiers in Vermont > > WHITNEY, Silas, Jr, VT; r Clarendon; Capt Salisbury's co 1777; 41, p 58. > ----------------- > Mass. Town Birth Records > Name: Silas WHITNEY Birth Date: Aug. 15, 1762 Birth Place: Rutland > Father's > Name: Silas Sex: M > This may be the birth registration of Silas, Jr. It was common for the > births to be recorded weeks after the event. > Name: Silas Whitney Birth Date: 15 Aug 1762 Birth Place: Rutland Father's > First Name: Silas Gender: Male Source: Vital Records of Rutland > ----------------- > Index to the 1820 Census for Ontario County, NY > > WHITNEY SILAS CANANDAIGUA 222 > ---------------------- > Whitney, Silas, Jr. Resident of: Name as recorded: Whitney, Silas, Jr. > Petition from Philadelphia (Chittenden) and Chittenden to establish the > ancient town lines. Record Date: 1788-09-23 Series: SE-118 Record Type: > Petition Volume: 22 Record ID: 16817 Page: 172 > > Do you have anything else? > > Sincerely James E. Whitney,II > Family Search ID-PR227 > -----Original Message----- > From: whitney-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:whitney-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On > Behalf Of Gail Anderson > Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 7:23 PM > To: whitney@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [WHITNEY] Website > > I think your right Rose Zella. Thanks for responding so we know we are > still > connected. > > Gail > > -----Original Message----- > From: whitney-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:whitney-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On > Behalf Of Rose Zella Proctor > Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 7:47 PM > To: whitney@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [WHITNEY] Website > > Do you think maybe everyone just has spring fever? > Out here in Wyoming its crazy. Moher's Day it was near 90 degrees. > Got up the next morning to 54 degrees. That just takes the sap out of > you and > seems there is freaky weather all over. So all you Whitney relatives > take care > and we will soon find something interesting in our family tree again. > Rose Zella > On May 16, 2007, at 7:26 PM, Gail Anderson wrote: > >> Hi Ben, >> >> I have been wondering the same thing. There are at least two of us >> alive and >> kicking. Anybody? Anybody? >> >> Gail >> P.S. I got some really good DNA news. I am so happy for who ever had >> the >> foresight to do the surname Test. Thank you, Thank you Thank you. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: whitney-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:whitney-bounces@rootsweb.com] On >> Behalf Of Benjamin Whitney >> Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 3:21 PM >> To: whitney@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [WHITNEY] Website >> >> Greetings, >> >> Is [WHITNEY] still working? >> Or, have I been purged? >> Speak to me, somebody! >> >> Regards, >> Ben >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> WHITNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> WHITNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WHITNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WHITNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.3/809 - Release Date: 5/17/2007 > 5:18 PM > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WHITNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WHITNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.6/813 - Release Date: 5/20/2007 > 7:54 AM > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WHITNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WHITNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.6/813 - Release Date: 5/20/2007 > 7:54 AM > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WHITNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message