I have two unrelated questions for the group today. They are: 1. What are the accepted procedures for sharing genealogical information on people who are still alive? I, of course want to protect everyone (my elderly parents as well as my minor children) from fraudulent use of any information I discover, but what is the right way to proceed, without covering up so much that distant cousins are unable to get in touch ? 2. As many of you know I'm following a line of the Maine Whitneys. John and Elinor ? Whitney Benjamin and Jane ? Whitney John and Letty Ford Whitney Benjamin and Mercy Hinkley Whitney Samuel and Lydia Curit Whitney John and Almira Turner Whitney John Carlton and Ella Peaslee John Willard and Madge Daniels Whitney I have not ever been able to find out much about generation 5, Samuel and Lydia, but recently I had a lead that her maiden name was not Curit, but Curate and her father was Stephen Curate, a 1771 immigrant to Boston from France, and her mother was Martha Hern, married 1774. I don't know how to get a start on the Curate family. I've looked at some of the sites that have immigrant ships recorded and haven't found anything so far. Well anyway.......rather than make this any longer, do any of you have any ideas on how I might get a start on verifying that these really are Lydia's parents? Thanks, Carolyn Whitney Branagan

While browsing today I came across these WHITNEYS in : MIDDLEVILLE CEMETERY - Rte. 29, TOWN OF FAIRFIELD, HERKIMER COUNTY (1/4 mile from Route 28) MIDDLEVILLE, NY WHITNEY, Rozell S., B. 1874 - D. 1927, Wf. Amelia W. Homrighaus WHITNEY, Amelia W. Homrighaus, B. 1890 - D. 1958, Hus. Rozell S. WHITNEY, Seymour R., B. 1838 - D. 1909, Wf. Maggie Smith WHITNEY, Maggie Smith, B. 1843 - D. 1925, Hus. Seymour R Sheila Researching Family surnames: STRATTON, WHITNEY, RUGG, INGRAHAM, CORWIN, BROCKWAY, and, of course, PEEL and many more. Take a look at my family history file! http://www.my-ged.com/peel/ Administrator for the following mailing lists: RUGG-L@rootsweb.com FENTON-L@rootsweb.com WYMAN-L@rootsweb.com LABARR-L@rootsweb.com PACKHAM-L@rootsweb.com

Hello group, I have just gotten back from 1 week in wonderful Maine, and I saw Whitneyville of course!! A cute little town. I just wanted to mention to anyone researching in Maine, I was at several town offices, and one in particular had lots!!! and I mean lots, of Whitney info. This town office was Jonesboro, ME, I did not record them as there were just too many, and I was directly looking for two other lines of mine in Maine. Believe me, you cannot be dispersive while in a town office. I just thought I would let you all know that, that town office is a sure hit, I will eventually send to the list any Whitney info that may have occured in my other search transcribing, but it will be little. Sandra Tracy

Dear WRG and Russell, At 05:53 PM 8/22/00 -0500, Russell C Sage wrote: >It is also my understanding that an individual's coat of arms is a merger of >his mother's and his father's coats of arms. This is only in the case that the mother is an heiress, that is, has no brothers to inherit the coat-of-arms. Regards, Robert Robert L. Ward WHITNEY Research Group <http://www.whitneygen.org/>

It is also my understanding that an individual's coat of arms is a merger of his mother's and his father's coats of arms. ----- Original Message ----- From: Tim Doyle <tdoyle@just.doit.com> To: <WHITNEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2000 3:49 PM Subject: Re: [WHITNEY-L] Re: the coat of arms? > On Tue, 22 Aug 2000, Chris Branagan wrote: > > > > Help needed from the cousins. Am I totally off base? > > > I've never taken the Whitney Coat of Arms seriously and can't even find > > > it on the WRG site. I always thought that a Coat of Arms was for > > > very old families with some link to royalty and that they could be > > > changed anytime: the one issued recently for Prince William was a new > > > one, sort of a combination of Charles' and Diana's. > > > Anyway, I ran into someone who claims to have THE Whitney Coat of Arms > > > and cannot be dissuaded. Is there evidence anywhere of what our Coat > > > of Arms should look like? > > I'll do my best to explain this, but if I stray from what's factual, > someone please correct me... > > A coat of arms is not given to all members of a surname - it is given to > an individual. That coat of arms is then passed down unchanged to his > eldest son. Other children take the original coat and modify it slightly, > usually following a standard system of modifications. If we found an old > house that was owned by a Mr. Whitney, but who was completely unrelated, > would we be correct to claim it as our ancestral home? The same holds true > of a coat of arms. Just because it was granted to someone named Whitney > does not mean that it applies to everyone with that surname. Although > this Whitney Research Group comprises many different Whitney branches, I > am unaware of any members that have a direct link to an arms-bearing > ancestor, let alone one through the eldest male line to the present day. > > We could put the various coats of arms held by men named Whitney through > the ages on our web site, but we really can't claim them unless we can > prove the connection. Also, there is no such thing as 'THE' Whitney coat > of arms. Even if there was only one coat of arms that was ever granted to > a man named Whitney, that does not mean that it applies to all Whitney > descendants. > > I hope this helps, > > Tim Doyle >

Chris Branagan wrote: > Help needed from the cousins. Am I totally off base? > I've never taken the Whitney Coat of Arms seriously and can't even find > it on the WRG site. I always thought that a Coat of Arms was for > very old families with some link to royalty and that they could be > changed anytime: the one issued recently for Prince William was a new > one, sort of a combination of Charles' and Diana's. > Anyway, I ran into someone who claims to have THE Whitney Coat of Arms > and cannot be dissuaded. Is there evidence anywhere of what our Coat > of Arms should look like? > from, Carolyn

On Tue, 22 Aug 2000, Chris Branagan wrote: > > Help needed from the cousins. Am I totally off base? > > I've never taken the Whitney Coat of Arms seriously and can't even find > > it on the WRG site. I always thought that a Coat of Arms was for > > very old families with some link to royalty and that they could be > > changed anytime: the one issued recently for Prince William was a new > > one, sort of a combination of Charles' and Diana's. > > Anyway, I ran into someone who claims to have THE Whitney Coat of Arms > > and cannot be dissuaded. Is there evidence anywhere of what our Coat > > of Arms should look like? I'll do my best to explain this, but if I stray from what's factual, someone please correct me... A coat of arms is not given to all members of a surname - it is given to an individual. That coat of arms is then passed down unchanged to his eldest son. Other children take the original coat and modify it slightly, usually following a standard system of modifications. If we found an old house that was owned by a Mr. Whitney, but who was completely unrelated, would we be correct to claim it as our ancestral home? The same holds true of a coat of arms. Just because it was granted to someone named Whitney does not mean that it applies to everyone with that surname. Although this Whitney Research Group comprises many different Whitney branches, I am unaware of any members that have a direct link to an arms-bearing ancestor, let alone one through the eldest male line to the present day. We could put the various coats of arms held by men named Whitney through the ages on our web site, but we really can't claim them unless we can prove the connection. Also, there is no such thing as 'THE' Whitney coat of arms. Even if there was only one coat of arms that was ever granted to a man named Whitney, that does not mean that it applies to all Whitney descendants. I hope this helps, Tim Doyle

Hello all, Thought I'd try this again. Lucinda WHITNEY was my 4th great grandmother. She married Ambrose POTTER of the New Haven, CT POTTER's in Orwell, Rutland, VT, 14 Jun 1817. I'm seeking Lucinda's parents and sibs. Thanks, any help appreciated. Christopher Barttels Dayton, WA http://members.hscis.net/~bremerj/index.html ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

I have circumstantial evidence that Hannah Judson Whitney (1782-1861, #1980 in Pierce) And Samuel Chard (who Pierce said was in the war of 1812) were the parents of my GGGrandfather Gilbert Chard. I know that Hannah was born in Newtown, Connecticut and is buried in Mount Repose Cemetery, Haverstraw, New York. I know nothing about Samuel Chard beyond the mention in Pierce. I am hoping to find records of any children or, at least, a clue to where they were married and lived so I know where to search for records. Regards, Bob

----- Original Message ----- From: <LoisBauman@cs.com> To: <JWMuse@csi.com> Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2000 9:55 PM Subject: Whitney research I am trying to find research on Mintle Whitney father of my dad. Mintle was married to mary Elizabeth Calkins probably in the 1870's My Father was first child born Oct.17th, 1875. Named Bernice James Whiteny later changed name legally to James B. Had to get his birth record by affadavit . I hope you can help as I can not find anything so far. Thank you Lois Bauman-Wood --------------------------------- Dear Lois: I checked all of my personal databases, looked in Phoenix's books on the desc. of Henry of CT, and did a search on the Whitney Research Group's site (http://www.whitneygen.org) and came up with nothing. Hopefully one of the other members of WRG will be able to help you, so I've forwarded a copy of this message to the group. I wish I could help further! Good luck! Jeanne (Whitney) Muse jwmuse@compuserve.com ------------------------------------------ Researching GOLDSMITH, REED, WHITNEY http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/jwmuse/roots.htm ----------------------------------------- .

WRG, I thought I would pass on info about a web site that I found of some interest. It is Craig's Daguerreian Registry. URL is www.daguerreotype.com. It lists nine Whitneys who were daguerreotype photographers around Civil War times. Short biographical sketches about some. Warning: the conclusion they came to about the death of the Whitney in my line (Joel Emmons Whitney) is incorrect. So, taken with a grain of salt, the info can still be interesting. Ken Whitney Silver Spring, MD

I don't know if anyone is interested but I came across this obituary from Port Huron, Michigan: Judith A. Sliwinski Obituary listed in the Times Herald, Sunday, May 7, 2000: "Warren - Judith A. Sliwinski, a resident of Warren, died Friday morning, May 5, 2000, in William Beaumont Hospital, Royal Oak, at the age of 58 years. Judith was born in Port Huron on July 19, 1941. She was united in marriage to Francis J. Sliwinski on Dec. 30, 1985. Judith had worked as a bookkeeper for many years. She loved gardening and canning and enjoyed feeding and caring for God's creatures in her backyard. She was a member of the B&BS Gun Club. A loving and caring person, Judith will be missed by the many she has touched in her lifetime. She is survived by her loving and devoted husband, Frank; her brothers, George Whitney, Gary Ebert, and Mark Whitney; her sister, Shirley Whitney; her loving mother, Louise Whitney; and by many nieces and nephews. Visitation was at the Faulmann and Walsh Golden Rule Funeral Home, 32814 Utica Road, Fraser, on Saturday, May 6, 2000, from 5 to 9 p.m. and will also be from noon until 9 p.m. today. Funeral services will be at 11 a.m. Monday, May 8, 2000, at the funeral home chapel."

Hi. Got the following on another list from the ST CROIX VITAL STATISTICS, from 1886 - 1905 MAY 6, 1886 DIED : WHITNEY - At Milltown, N.B., on the 4th inst., Joseph W. Whitney, aged 74 years. MARCH 8, 1888 WHITNEY - In Milltown, N.B., on the 27th February, Lucy C., relict of the late Beriah Whitney, aged 83 years. MAY 6, 1886 DIED : WHITNEY - At Milltown, N.B., on the 4th inst., Joseph W. Whitney, aged 74 years MARCH 8, 1888 died WHITNEY - In Milltown, N.B., on the 27th February, Lucy C., relict of the late Beriah Whitney, aged 83 years.

Judy: Do you have any dates on Lewis, Hannah or David (even estimates)? Jeanne (Whitney) Muse jwmuse@compuserve.com ----- Original Message ----- From: <JDrake1039@aol.com> To: <WHITNEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2000 12:48 PM Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Lewis Whitney of CT I'm looking for parents of or any other information on Lewis Whitney. He married Hannah (?) and had a son, David Whitney. May have had another son, Lewis. David Whitney was born in Westport, Fairfield, CT. Their records are sparse and I could find no mention of Lewis Whitney there. If anyone knows where I might find more information, I would appreciate hearing from them. Judy Drake Phoenix, AZ

Is there anyone who knows the names of all the children of Benjamin and Delano/a Whitney? They were married in 1783 in Washington Co., NY moved to Ohio where Benjamin died and later Delano is in Jackson County, Michigan. When Delano applied for the widow's portion of Benjamin's Rev. War Service in 1840 she stated that she had not kept a record of the dates of her children's births. She did not mention any of the names of her children that I can see.

----- Original Message ----- From: <Sessfam@aol.com> To: <jwmuse@compuserve.com> Sent: Friday, August 11, 2000 9:51 AM Subject: Re: Ruth Shattuck and Jonathan Farnsworth Hello - greetings from the FARNSWORTH One-name Study, based in Britain but researching world-wide. Most interested to see your entry for Ruth Shattuck and would be grateful if you could confirm the dates you list (hopefully from a source other than the FARNSWORTH Memorial, which is being debated in parts nowadays). If you also have a marriage date somewhere for her wedding to Jonathan Farnsworth that would be great. The debate is about the actual spouse of Jonathan, as some feel that she was named Ruth but was not of the Shattuck family. Have you any thoughts here? Our One-Name Study web-site is found at www.farnsworth.org.uk and the databases here in the UK hold about 98 thousand entries to date. We are a research resource, offering texture for write-ups of family trees, social history and help where able (all free o charge of course). Hope to hear from you Patrice Farnsworth Sessions FARNSWORTH One-Name Study Society of Genealogists ------------------------ Dear Patrice: We have had a recent discussion among Whitney researchers recently. The source I cited for the birth of Ruth Shattuck (b. 24 Jun 1668, Watertown) was "A Genealogical Dictionary of First Settlers of New England showing Three Generations of Those Who Came Before May, 1692, on the Basis of Farmer's Register. 4 Volumes" by James Savage. Volume IV, p62. I cited no sources for her marriage to Jonathan Farnsworth (1698) nor for her death 16 Jun 1748, unfortunately. As you can see, I have copied this message to the Whitney list on Rootsweb. Hopefully more information will be forthcoming for Farnsworth/Shattuck researchers who subscribe to that list. Thank you for writing! Jeanne (Whitney) Muse jwmuse@compuserve.com ------------------------------------------ Researching GOLDSMITH, REED, WHITNEY http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/jwmuse/roots.htm -----------------------------------------

WRG: FYI ... ;-) Jeanne ----- Original Message ----- From: "eli" <eli@netsync.net> To: <jwmuse@compuserve.com> Sent: Friday, August 11, 2000 11:39 AM Subject: The Whitneys Dear Jeanne, My name is Robert Warner Whitney, from Jamestown, NY. I am a descendent of Joseph Lee and Pheobe Mead Whitney. We just celebrated our 100th year reunion this past summer. About 75 were in attendance. I am the GGGGrandson of Joseph Lee Whitney. I believe I would be the 11th Generation of Whitney's here if Henry Whitney were the first. I have a lot of information on our branch of the Family Tree. Is there a way to add it to the data base ? Please let me know. Sincerely, Robert Warner Whitney, Sr. 30 Connecticut Ave. Jamestown, NY 14701 716-483-0285 Father : Ray Warner Whitney, Jr. GFather: Ray Warner Whitney, Sr. GGFather: Joseph Warner Whitney b.18, May,1848 GGGFather: Joseph Mead Whitney b.19 Sept. ,1819 GGGGFather : Joseph Lee Whitney b. 15 Sept. 1785 GGGGGFather : Jeremiah Whitney GGGGGGFather; Jeremiah Whitney b. 18 Sept., 1731 d. 1810 GGGGGGGFather : Nathan Whitney (of Norwalk, Conn.) GGGGGGGGFather : John Whitney d. around 1720 GGGGGGGGGFather : Henry Whitney b. around 1620 ------- Dear Robert: I would be pleased to add your line to our database! Could you send me more information? Possibly in Gedcom form? The majority of the database was compiled from Vol. 1 of Phoenix's books on the Henry Whitney line. Additions have been made by individuals who are connected. I have the full set of those books on order so more can be added and verified too. I look forward to hearing back from you! Jeanne (Whitney) Muse jwmuse@compuserve.com ------------------------------------------ Researching GOLDSMITH, REED, WHITNEY http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/jwmuse/roots.htm -----------------------------------------

Dear WRG: At 09:37 PM 8/11/00 -0400, vttrails wrote: >I recently visited Watertown, Mass. and the public library where I found >lots of information on the Whitneys as well as other families that I'm a >descendant of that married into the Whitney family. One of the books that >the library in Watertown had was a book by Dr. Henry Bond and I was able >to borrow it on interlibrary loan through the library of the University of >Vermont. (I live in northern Vermont). This book is invaluable and I >strongly suggest if you're looking for Whitneys or any other surname that >settled in this area that you try to get hold of Bond's book! Extracts of the WHITNEY material from this book is available on-line at the WRG website: <http://www.whitneygen.org/archives/extracts/bond.html>. Regards, Robert Robert L. Ward rlward1@erols.com <http://users.erols.com/rlward1/> 12236 Shadetree Lane, Laurel, MD 20708-2832 301-776-1659

This is a book I have in my local library. You may want to see if you can find a copy. They cite sources for military personnel records and make specific recommendations that include your circumstances. Good luck. Colleen TITLE How to locate anyone who is or has been in the military 8th edition, [1999] : armed forces locator directory. PUBLISHER Military Information Enterprises] DESCRIP v. : ill. ; 22-28 cm. SUBJECTS 1) Veterans -- United States -- Societies, etc. -- Directories. 2) United States -- Armed Forces -- Registers. FREQUENCY 1) Irregular vttrails wrote: > > This is a shot in the dark and not related to any Whitneys but I thought it worth a try. Does anyone know how I can find or where I can go to find someone's( who may still be living) mitiltary record if I don't have a social security number and extremely limited info. on them? I'm trying to find my biological father/father's family and don't know much as I never knew him. Although I don't have a SS # I do have another number for him that I've been told was used by the military prior to the use of SS # 's. > > In a more related vein if anyone has info on Private Abel Whitney(of Tunbridge,Vt) of the 9th Infantry from Vermont and in regards to his death from starvation at Andersonville Prisoner of War (Civil War) Camp in Georgia please let me know. I'd be most grateful. > Thanks, > Noreen LaTour

If you have an old military serial number the information on your father is probably available. There are several archives. Probably someone can be more specific but I ran a search at www.google.com using "US Military Personnel Archives" (without quotation marks) as a search argument which produced over 47,000 links in less than a second. Try it. Google is one of the best search engines there is. Henry M. Whitney (hwhitney@cpcug.org) ----- Original Message ----- From: "vttrails" <vttrails@adelphia.net> To: <WHITNEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2000 1:45 AM Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Military Records > This is a shot in the dark and not related to any Whitneys but I thought it worth a try. Does anyone know how I can find or where I can go to find someone's( who may still be living) mitiltary record if I don't have a social security number and extremely limited info. on them? I'm trying to find my biological father/father's family and don't know much as I never knew him. Although I don't have a SS # I do have another number for him that I've been told was used by the military prior to the use of SS # 's. > > In a more related vein if anyone has info on Private Abel Whitney(of Tunbridge,Vt) of the 9th Infantry from Vermont and in regards to his death from starvation at Andersonville Prisoner of War (Civil War) Camp in Georgia please let me know. I'd be most grateful. > Thanks, > Noreen LaTour > >