Hello Larry, I just saw this inquiry and it reminded me that I haven't conversed with you lately. First, the info on Elizabeth Harding is from Hugh McLellan's History of Gorham, ME. Page 557 gives her parents as Seth Harding and Elizabeth Wilkit, who came from, of all places, Eastham, MA! On pg 829, McLellan makes her the second wife of Josiah Whitney (first wife Hannah Barstow). As you now well know, this is where much confusion starts. For members of the group, I got involved with Larry in this ever-enlarging puzzle by posting a message entitled The Josiah Whitney Puzzle on 8 Feb 1999. The message is archived on the WRG site. Since then, the puzzle has grown, as we have been unearthing more Josiahs than we know what to do with! So far, key info is missing, so the puzzle goes unsolved. Larry, I checked the resouces for Canada at the D.A.R Library in Wash., D.C., and nothing turned up. I intend checking the Library of Congress for Canadian records, but who knows when I will get there. I've left messages on bulletin boards around the internet, but nothing so far. Did you ever find out anything about the Cape Ann Society? Perhaps someone in the WRG knows something about this organization? Anyway, I'll let you know when I get to the LOC, and good hunting. Ken Whitney Silver Spring, MD

Colleen and all, At 11:25 PM 9/3/00 -0500, Colleen Knights wrote: >I've just about finished a posting for "Most Wanted". >Who should I send it to so it can be added to the >whitneygen.org site? Send it to me or to Tim Doyle <tdoyle@doit.com>. Regards, Robert Robert L. Ward WHITNEY Research Group <http://www.whitneygen.org/>

I've just about finished a posting for "Most Wanted". Who should I send it to so it can be added to the whitneygen.org site? Colleen Knights

Dear Larry: I'm afraid I can't help with Elizabeth Harding either. I have no sources cited as references for the information I entered. Are you a member of our Whitney Research Group's e-mail list? I would suggest you join and post a message to the membership. Get more information on the group on the web site: http://www.whitneygen.org Good luck! Jeanne (Whitney) Muse jwmuse@compuserve.com ------------------------------------------ Researching GOLDSMITH, REED, WHITNEY http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/jwmuse/roots.htm ----------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "N. Metelski" <nmetelski@cybertours.com> To: <jwmuse@compuserve.com> Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2000 1:50 PM Subject: Elizabeth Harding who married a Josiah Whitney We have been searching for sometime the origins of Josiah Whitney who made his way to New Brunswick/Nova Scotia probably from 1768-1774. Pierce's genealogy claims a Josiah Whitney m. both an Elizabeth Harding and a Hannah Barstow, probably incorrectly. We recently found an obscure reference to Josiah in Bridgton Me. along with his 6 children. The first 2 children were born in St. John's according to the old record, in 1776 and 1778 respectively. One child was born in Beverly Mass. in 1786 and his last child in Bridgton Maine in 1789. Research has shown that his wife was probably Sarah, leaving the possibility that Barstow or Harding died previous to Josiah's entry into N.B. Many people are working on this project such as Ken Whitney, around the country. The find in Bridgton was one advance in determining who Josiah Whitney was in relationshipto the others, but parantage remains a mystery! I thought by locating Elizabeth Harding and working in a different direction the area and parantage could be ascertained. Any help would be appreciated, or additional questions you may have will gladly be answered. Larry Tracy Jr.

I received this message from C. R. Click whose e-mail address is rosemillion@hotmail.com and thought I'd pass it along in case any of the names ring a bell. Jeanne (Whitney) Muse ----- Original Message ----- From: C.R.Click To: jwmuse@compuserve.com Sent: Friday, September 01, 2000 6:09 AM Subject: Dennis Whitney Looking for lost grandfather: Frank Foster Dennis Clovious Rube Bain Clifton Whitney. Married Julia Wells she was born 1900. They had three children and then parted when they were young. I'm sure he had another family, I would like to see. His brothers names are Jess, Alford,Red,Stokes,Shortie.I would be gratefull for any leed.

Chris Branagan wrote: > Hi Helen! > > What a warm day for us here in northern Vermont! Sitting by my fan looking > up this information for you! > > I have Jacob Whitney born October 14, 1804 in Lisbon, Maine. His parents > were Samuel and Lydia (Curit, Curtis, Curate) Whitney. Jacob's first > marriage was to Mary Gould on July 18, 1830. Mary died in 1838 in Lisbon > Falls. They had two children, Increase Gould Whitney, born Nov. 25, 1831 > and Mary Jane Whitney born March 29, 1834. Jacob's second marriage was to > Christiana Jordan on September 6, 1838. They had three children, Martha > McClellan Whitney born Sept. 20, 1839, Washington Dain Whitney born December > 29, 1842 and Christiana Ann Whitney born March 20, 1848. I have no > information on how or where Jacob and Christiana (Jordan) Whitney died. I > have not found them buried in Lisbon or Lisbon Falls. > > Do you have any other information on where John and Polly Curie lived? I > am assuming Curie is the maiden name, and that he was John Whitney. > > Hope this is of some help. > > from, Carolyn > > Helen S Rogers wrote: > > > Who did Jacob born in 1804 marry? We are trying to discover the parents > > of our Jacob who lived in Delaware Co., N.Y and died in 1861 in a house > > fire along with his wife. There was some information that Jacob's > > parents might be John and Polly Curie. With the name similarities, it > > does make me wonder about this. Jacob has been a dead end for several > > of us who are searching. > > > > Anxiously await your thoughts on this. Helen

Hi Helen! What a warm day for us here in northern Vermont! Sitting by my fan looking up this information for you! I have Jacob Whitney born October 14, 1804 in Lisbon, Maine. His parents were Samuel and Lydia (Curit, Curtis, Curate) Whitney. Jacob's first marriage was to Mary Gould on July 18, 1830. Mary died in 1838 in Lisbon Falls. They had two children, Increase Gould Whitney, born Nov. 25, 1831 and Mary Jane Whitney born March 29, 1834. Jacob's second marriage was to Christiana Jordan on September 6, 1838. They had three children, Martha McClellan Whitney born Sept. 20, 1839, Washington Dain Whitney born December 29, 1842 and Christiana Ann Whitney born March 20, 1848. I have no information on how or where Jacob and Christiana (Jordan) Whitney died. I have not found them buried in Lisbon or Lisbon Falls. Do you have any other information on where John and Polly Curie lived? I am assuming Curie is the maiden name, and that he was John Whitney. Hope this is of some help. from, Carolyn Helen S Rogers wrote: > Who did Jacob born in 1804 marry? We are trying to discover the parents > of our Jacob who lived in Delaware Co., N.Y and died in 1861 in a house > fire along with his wife. There was some information that Jacob's > parents might be John and Polly Curie. With the name similarities, it > does make me wonder about this. Jacob has been a dead end for several > of us who are searching. > > Anxiously await your thoughts on this. Helen

New address is dheald1@hotmail.com Please make of it because I still want to hear from you. donna

Dear WRG: Ancestry.com publishes a daily newsletter in which they announce their "free" databases that are opened for a short period to anyone. This is done to advertise their wares and secure new members. Nonetheless, it is possible that they might hit a resource for that short period that would be useful to someone in the WRG. It doesn't take very long to open the e-mail and view the free databases right at the top of the newsletter to see if one of them might provide an opportunity not otherwise to be found. In this issue: - Databases of the Day: ----- Amesbury, Massachusetts Directory, 1891 ----- Chatham Township, Bothwell County, Ontario, Canada Census, 1901 ----- Wisconsin Marriage Index, 1820-1907 ----- Atlanta Journal-Constitution (GA) Obituaries, 1998-99 To subscribe to this newsletter, visit http://www.ancestry.com and type your e-mail address in the box provided, or send an e-mail message to: mailto:ancestry_daily_news@anclist001.ancestry.com with the word "subscribe" in the subject line. Hope this helps someone. Allan E. Green

I'm looking for the parents of Darius Thomas Whitney, born 8 Aug 1833 on Long Island, NY, their names are Thomas and Rachael/Rachel Whitney. Any information would be appreciated. Thank you, Brenda Nichols

Dear WRG, I have just posted a set of 11 Bible records culled from old messages to this mailing list. You may see the new page at: <http://www.whitneygen.org/archives/bibles/index.html>. Enjoy! Regards, Robert Robert L. Ward WHITNEY Research Group <http://www.whitneygen.org/>

Chris Branagan wrote: > Hi Jan, > > Thank you for all the information on the Curit family. You are amazing! > > You asked for the informaton I have on Lydia Curit , wife of Samuel Whitney. > Unfortunately, it is scant. > > What I know is this: > > Her birthday is listed in a number of sources as January 30, 1776 in Lisbon, > Maine. She and Samuel L. Whitney (Benjamin, John, Benjamin, John) were > married in Lisbon on December 24, 1801. Lydia died on December 6, or 7 in > 1848 and is buried in the Lisbon Center Cemetery. > > She and Samuel had 7 children . > Eliza, born Sept. 15, 1802 > Jacob, born October 14, 1804 > John, born June 1, 1808 > Isabella born July 4, 1812 > Mercy , born December 11, 1814 > Lydia, born July 17, 1817 ( or maybe June 26, 1817) > Samuel born November 2, 1820. > > I have the marriages of some of these people, if you are interested. My > intentions are to keep searching for more information on the origins of Lydia > Curit. Her parents must be somewhere. The chance that the name may be > spelled "Curate" in places opens up some possibilities. I'll let you know if > I find anything. > > Thanks again for the help. from, Carolyn Whitney Branagan > > Jan Whitaker wrote: > > > Carolyn, More on John Curit... A John Curate resided in Cape Elizabeth > > and was lost on the "Cumberland" in the Rev War, his widow Martha then > > petitioned for pay due her late husband when she was residing in Portland. > > Further listed is John Curate from Massachusetts serving in Capt Watkin's > > Company. These notations are listed on page 176, "Soldier, Sailors and > > Patriots of the Revolutionary War-Maine"compiled by Fisher & Fisher. > > Next, that marriage I spoke of on Chebeague Island, is listed as > > John CURATE of North Yarmouth to Jane Hamilton of North Yarmouth 14 June, > > 1802 in "Vital Records of North Yarmouth, Maine to the year 1850" second > > Edition Edited by Ruth Wilder Sherman. [Chebeague was a part of the > > original territory of North Yarmouth] So there was a spelling change...I > > know that the name was known on Chebeague Island as CURIT. > > A John Curit owned land in the present town of Yarmouth, "a few > > hundred feet from where the North Road turns from East Main Street, near > > the former residence of John Curit". This passage found in "Ancient North > > Yarmouth and Yarmouth, Maine 1636-1936 A History" by William Hutchinson > > Rowe, page102. This passage is a description of the capture of three boys > > by Native Americans in 1742. Good Luck, Jan

Does anyone know anything about Laura Whitney? She is the daughter of Peter Whitney and Mary Blair. She married a Peter Atwood in Chester, MA in 1814. I know little else about her (ie: birth date, death date, etc.). She had one child that I know of with Peter Atwood (Sophia, b. 1814). Peter Atwood remarried in 1825. I don't know what ever happened to Laura. Her parents died in Chester in 1826. Thank you. Bev (chozijoy@aol.com)

Thanks Shawn. A cemetery record in our archives indicates that Ezra died in Ontario County and that his wife was name Temperance. Another candidate for a while was Ezra, son of James Whitney and Eunice Johnson, of Newfield, NY. But another old cemetery record showed that Ezra and his wife and several children buried in Newfield. That's also in our archives. I have an old family record that says the father of my Ezra was also named Ezra and that his wife was Juliette Stewart. I have run into this record among several living descendants. However, it also contains a lengthy and romantic fairy tale about how and "Lady Julia Pelton", born in England, fell in love with her father's groom, 'Lord Ezra Whitney" and they both absconded to America and were married in 1840. "Lady Juliet Stewart is listed as a direct descendant of Robert the Bruce in this tale. The truth is that the wife of Ezra Whitney 'Lady' Julia Pelton', was born in Bath, NH, the daughter of first cousins John Pelton and Martha Pelton.

After several years, I have now collected over 600 descendants of Ezra Leonard Whitney, of Livingston and Ontario Counties, NY, b. 1790 -1800, d. abt. 1849 in MI. Most recently I learned that his oldest son, John Whitney, b. abt 1828, married Jennet Wilder, the daughter, I believe, of either Luther or Nathan Wilder of Michigan and Genessee County, NY. I have many of their descendants, one of whom, Raymond Starr, was Att. General and Supreme Court Justice for the state of Michigan. Naturally, only a part of the descendants of this Ezra are surnamed Whitney, but I would like to post this database somewhere. I still have not discovered any siblings of this Ezra, and hope that someday I might. Also, I believe there are about two hundred more descendants to gather when I have the time. I have the file now in FTM 7. Where should I post this? Thanks, A. Whitney Brown.

Hello A Whitney Brown, This is probably a little presumptuous of me but here goes anyway. Have you been able to rule out the possibility that your Ezra Leonard WHITNEY was not the son of Joel WHITNEY and Sybil WHITMORE. These two were married 1790 in Conway, Mass and both died in Seneca Castle and are buried in the Crittenden Cemetery in Ontario County. They had a son named Ezra b. 14 Oct 1791. I show no death record for him. And no other information is available in Pierce's book. This Joel is on of the sons of our Capt Jonathan WHITNEY who migrated from Conway Mass to Ontario County. It is also this group of WHITNEY's who ventured on to the Hillsdale Michigan area. You've probably already beat this one with a stick. But just wanted to mention it in case..... Oh! double checking the exact text in Pierce, it says that Ezra, b. Oct 14, 1791; married but no children living. Lets see.... he would have been 104 at the time of publication. Probably didn't have any children after publication (tee hee) but HEY! Pierce has been know to be wrong!!! Shawn Whitney Seattle WA AwhitneyB@aol.com wrote: > After several years, I have now collected over 600 descendants of Ezra > Leonard Whitney, of Livingston and Ontario Counties, NY, b. 1790 -1800, d. > abt. 1849 in MI. Most recently I learned that his oldest son, John Whitney, > b. abt 1828, married Jennet Wilder, the daughter, I believe, of either Luther > or Nathan Wilder of Michigan and Genessee County, NY. I have many of their > descendants, one of whom, Raymond Starr, was Att. General and Supreme Court > Justice for the state of Michigan. Naturally, only a part of the descendants > of this Ezra are surnamed Whitney, but I would like to post this database > somewhere. I still have not discovered any siblings of this Ezra, and hope > that someday I might. Also, I believe there are about two hundred more > descendants to gather when I have the time. I have the file now in FTM 7. > Where should I post this? Thanks, A. Whitney Brown.

Carolyn, More on John Curit... A John Curate resided in Cape Elizabeth and was lost on the "Cumberland" in the Rev War, his widow Martha then petitioned for pay due her late husband when she was residing in Portland. Further listed is John Curate from Massachusetts serving in Capt Watkin's Company. These notations are listed on page 176, "Soldier, Sailors and Patriots of the Revolutionary War-Maine"compiled by Fisher & Fisher. Next, that marriage I spoke of on Chebeague Island, is listed as John CURATE of North Yarmouth to Jane Hamilton of North Yarmouth 14 June, 1802 in "Vital Records of North Yarmouth, Maine to the year 1850" second Edition Edited by Ruth Wilder Sherman. [Chebeague was a part of the original territory of North Yarmouth] So there was a spelling change...I know that the name was known on Chebeague Island as CURIT. A John Curit owned land in the present town of Yarmouth, "a few hundred feet from where the North Road turns from East Main Street, near the former residence of John Curit". This passage found in "Ancient North Yarmouth and Yarmouth, Maine 1636-1936 A History" by William Hutchinson Rowe, page102. This passage is a description of the capture of three boys by Native Americans in 1742. Good Luck, Jan

Hello Carolyn, I have a couple of suggestions: In her genealogy "The Hinkleys of Maine", Marlene Alma Hinkley Groves writes on pg 53 that Lydia Curit was born 30 Jan 1776. I don't have her source for that date, but she source codes everything, so it is probably available. Starting with her source may be helpful. Also, try the Weymouth Technologies website at www.weymouthtech.com. Click on Weymouth Genealogy Database. You will find some Curit info, including a Lydia Curit. Perhaps corresponding through this site will be fruitful. Also, do a search at www.google.com for "Curit genealogy." This brings up some web sites for possible communications. Good luck, and let us know of any positive result. Ken Whitney ----- Original Message ----- From: Chris Branagan <slainte@together.net> To: <WHITNEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2000 6:15 PM Subject: [WHITNEY-L] family history > I have two unrelated questions for the group today. They are: > > 1. What are the accepted procedures for sharing genealogical > information on people who are still alive? I, of course want to > protect everyone (my elderly parents as well as my minor children) from > fraudulent use of any information I discover, but what is the right way > to proceed, without covering up so much that distant cousins are > unable to get in touch ? > > 2. As many of you know I'm following a line of the Maine Whitneys. > > John and Elinor ? Whitney > Benjamin and Jane ? Whitney > John and Letty Ford Whitney > Benjamin and Mercy Hinkley Whitney > Samuel and Lydia Curit Whitney > John and Almira Turner Whitney > John Carlton and Ella Peaslee > John Willard and Madge Daniels Whitney > > I have not ever been able to find out much about generation 5, Samuel > and Lydia, but recently I had a lead that her maiden name was not > Curit, but Curate and her father was Stephen Curate, a 1771 immigrant to > Boston from France, and her mother was Martha Hern, married 1774. > > I don't know how to get a start on the Curate family. I've looked at > some of the sites that have immigrant ships recorded and haven't found > anything so far. > > Well anyway.......rather than make this any longer, do any of you > have any ideas on how I might get a start on verifying that these > really are Lydia's parents? > > > Thanks, Carolyn Whitney Branagan >

At 07:40 AM 8/27/00 -0500, Jan Whitaker wrote: >Carolyn...I have reference books for Maine and have found Curits. I need >to know more about the dates involving your Samuel Whitney and Lydia Curit >to help you. Have a John Curit [1777-1873] m. Jane Hamilton in 1802 and >settled on Chebeague Island[Casco Bay-town of Cumberland].They had seven or >more children including a Lydia. Jan Lydia CURIT was allegedly b. 30 Jan 1776, Lisbon, ME. She m. 24 Dec 1801, Lisbon, ME, Samuel Lumber WHITNEY, and d. 7 Dec 1848, Lisbon, ME. The timing is right for her to have been a sister of the above John CURIT, and she named a son John. Reference: Marlene Alma Hinkley Groves, _Hinckleys of Maine: The Ancestry and Descendants of Samuel-4 Hinckley of Brunswick, Maine_ (Penobscot Press). Regards, Robert Robert L. Ward WHITNEY Research Group <http://www.whitneygen.org/>

Carolyn...I have reference books for Maine and have found Curits. I need to know more about the dates involving your Samuel Whitney and Lydia Curit to help you. Have a John Curit [1777-1873] m. Jane Hamilton in 1802 and settled on Chebeague Island[Casco Bay-town of Cumberland].They had seven or more children including a Lydia. Jan