OH MAUREEN! I can't believe this has happened to you and your daughter. My heart goes out to both of you. Let me get this straight ... The man whose wife "refused to take care of" the twins and one year old is the same man who molested your dau. Jennifer Lynn, who was only 11 years old at the time. This man got his cousin to have the case dismissed. Pastors of a church decided the man should have Jennifer Lynn ... and your own mother and sister agreed and have helped the process. You tried to hide her from him but he finally got her 8 months ago. She is 28 and lives with him and his children in a town near you (in Massachusetts?). He is not divorced but Jennifer believes they are engaged. And his estranged wife lives in the same building. Do I have this right? This sounds like a job for the FBI or a private investigator at least. I wish I knew what could be done to help you! Love and good wishes, Jeanne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maureen" <abc@empire.net> To: <WHITNEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2001 11:14 AM Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Need to talk about it! Dear WRG, I do not think anyone can help me. I really need to talk about what has happened. I am now a single parent mother of four daughters. The three oldest are on their own, so to speak, and the youngest is still at home with me. There is a sequence to what has happened to me. I just found out vital information two weeks ago. This vital information has to do with my family. And it is not good information. In my family two children were born. My sister and I. I got married first. I was married, I had three children, and we had our problems(like everyone else) It always seemed like there was something just out of my reach. My husband left and got another place to live and was working but not giving us any money to live on. It was very hard on me. Anyway we seemed to make it through some rough times. I had my bible. My sister called me one day and said "we know you are having a rough time and we decided to help you, so come and live with us and we can help each other" This was wecome to me because my husbands girfriend was doing some ugly things to us. My sister lived in the next state, but it was only an hours ride away. Anyway after I was there two months my brother-in-law said God told him to go to school and become a minister. He said I could go to Oklahoma with them but that I would have to work and support the family while he went to school. Which I did because I trusted my sister really cared about me. Anyway when we came back my brother-in-law talked me into divorcing my husband because he said God told him to. Then my brother-in-law married my husband to someone else. He started a faith message church. There was also one from the town he lived in before he went to school. There was an affilate one town over.(Three churches, three pastors) In this other church there was a family that had twin daughters that were three years old and a one year old son. The mother refused to care for these children and I was asked to care for them with a weekly pay.I was raising my own so a few more did not seem like a problem.I took care of them almost a year and then the sister of the father of these children said she wanted the money and she was going to babysit. So I had nothing to say. Four months after the sister started to babysit one of the twins died. All kinds of meetings took place that I knew absolutly nothing about.The very large family of this child that died decided they were going to sue these three pastors. It was decided(I just found this out) It was decided that they( three pastors) would give my 11 year old daughter to this husband to appease him of grief. MY DAUGHTER. Shortly after this death, my daughter was molested by this grown man.He had his cousin, an attorney to get the case dismissed. I could get NO ONE to help me.(now I know why)We had a tug of war with my daughter from age 11 to 18 when she would be legal age that I could not get help for her.They always managed to find her from where I would hide her. (now I know it was MY MOTHER who kept giving her back to them and ALSO the new wife of my husband) MY BABY. MY JENNIFER LYNN. I also just found out that my brother-in-law told my husband and his new wife that he did not have to support my children because we were his sins that he had to walk away from. My Jennifer won all the scholarships the year she graduated. MY JENN earned all her credits to graduate by the first term of her Sophmore year of HS. They have her and she is brainwashed. I saw her for a very short time on Christmas Eve, she thinks she is engaged to him. He never divorced his wife they just lived apart all these years. She does not make sense to me. She never went back to college although the promise was always there. He recaptured her about eight months ago.(Although now I can see he was always controlling her) I got word that his teenage kids beat her up when they feel like it. She is only allowed to work where he works. She sorts mail in a mail sorting house.4 p.m. to 1 a.m. Someone in 3rd grade could do what MY JENN is doing. They tell me like always, that she HAS to stay there. Last week my sister said to me" she is happy leave her alone" and I said to her"everyone knew this happened, and everyone for years told me it happened because I was an unfit mother" She said 'yes' "but you can't prove it" MY OWN FAMILY. MY MOTHER MY SISTER and her husband. I can not see my Jenn. She is right in the next town.She is 28 now. She has to work and give them the paycheck to run the house. There are four angry teenagers living there, a baby and boyfriend of one daughter. She called me the first week in Dec. she said it was the strangest thing, they came home from work and the tenant on the third floor was gone(she said "we do not know where he went" then she said David said we HAVE to move to the third floor today and his children were moving up there,too. The Wife also lives there, his sister told me, it was because she is homeless and the house is in her name.Then she started laughing.I have been told that the pastor that took over the church in Milford is coaching this family to do their "Christain duty" against Jenn. No one can help because she is of legal age and she IS BRAINWASHED. Now I know why they say 1-800 the lost. They are right in front of you doing everyday things. She is scared for my Amanda. On Christmas Eve she must have told her she loved her ten or twelve times.I have been paying a real estate agent money for the last three years. I did not know the real owner of this house is the lawyer that got the case dismissed. When I first looked at this house to rent, it was in our family years and years ago. I have no where to go. I do not know what to do. The police said she has the right to stay there and I have no right to try and help her. Well like I said, I know I can not do anything, but I had to talk about it. My daughter was sold into slavery by my own family. Last week this pastor told me "if it was one of his children, they would not have had to spend one minute in that awful house." My sister told me that "she was the good one and thats why these things didn't happen to her." And I really believe in God. What happened!! Maureen

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Dear Steven, Your usual signature has both the name Brackett and Proctor, are you part of the Maine line? Decendant of Samuel Proctor and Sarah Brackett ? Always looking for cousins. Jon Normandin On Tue, 23 Jan 2001 13:33:11 -0500 "Steven Wallace" <stevenwallace7@hotmail.com> writes: > Hi Carolyn: > > Newby here. While I do appreciate the spirit of "no descendant > shall be > left behind" <g>, I also appreciate that an opportunity for SOME > people to > meet is better than no meeting at all. There is a happy medium > somewhere > ... but, being new to this list, I should leave that decision to the > others > who know each other better. > > For my own part, MA, VT or NH might be good ... Virginia would be > ideal (I > live there). - Steven W. > > > My usual signature .... > > Other Lines: ADAMS, ALBIN, BLACKMORE, BLANCHARD, BLOOD, BRACKETT, > BROOKS, > BYFIELD, CARSON, CHAMBERLAIN, CROSS, DARNALL, DUNCAN, FLETCHER, > HILDRETH, > HULL, HUSTON, JENNEY, KEEN, KEENE, LONGLEY, LYNAM, McLAUGHLIN, > NUTTING, > O'BRIEN, PARKER, PROCTOR, REYNOLDS, ROBERTSON, ROBBINS, ROLLINSON, > SHATTUCK, STEADMAN, SQUIRE, WALKER, WALLACE, WALLIS, WALTERS, WARD, > WARREN, > WATERS, WATSON, WATTERS, WELCH, WHEELER, WHITNEY, WILSON, WRIGHT > > Steven Rollinson Wallace > stevenwallace7@hotmail.com > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chris Branagan" <slainte@together.net> > To: <WHITNEY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 8:24 AM > Subject: [WHITNEY-L] the Reunion > > > > Hi Bud, > > > > The benefits of being a member of the WRG include being among > > researchers who are from many places, have wide experiences and > are > > willing to share their areas of expertise. As long as we are > just > > corresponding on the internet, this is a huge advantage to all > of > > us. However this advantage turns into an obsticle when we try > to > > arrange a place for a reunion. Whatever place is chosen as a > > location, there will certainly be some members who have to > travel > > farther than others. And some members may not be able to attend > at all > > due to the long distance. Our member Rick in Thialand comes to > mind! > > > > Try to remember that the goal of the WRG is to promote the > scholarly > > research of the Whitney family. This will also be the main goal > of the > > Reunion, along with the attemps to allow members of the WRG to > get to > > know one another better. > > > > For those who are unable to attend, perhaps the Committee will > consider > > sending available phamphlets and other literature. No doubt > there > > will be a lot of information generated. Pictures may be > available from > > Jeanne's MyFamily.com site. > > > > You are a valuable member of the WRG. Regardless of where or > when or > > if there is a reunion, all of us will continue to be invested in > your > > research, as you are in ours. > > > > Good luck. By the way this morning where I live in northern > Vermont > > it is 5 below! What is the temperature where you are in Alaska? > > > > from, Carolyn Whitney Branagan > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

Hi List, I would be up for a reunion anytime, however, the fall is good when all the leaf peepers are here in Vermont. Jon Normandin ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

Dear WRG, I do not think anyone can help me. I really need to talk about what has happened. I am now a single parent mother of four daughters. The three oldest are on their own, so to speak, and the youngest is still at home with me. There is a sequence to what has happened to me. I just found out vital information two weeks ago. This vital information has to do with my family. And it is not good information. In my family two children were born. My sister and I. I got married first. I was married, I had three children, and we had our problems(like everyone else) It always seemed like there was something just out of my reach. My husband left and got another place to live and was working but not giving us any money to live on. It was very hard on me. Anyway we seemed to make it through some rough times. I had my bible. My sister called me one day and said "we know you are having a rough time and we decided to help you, so come and live with us and we can help each other" This was wecome to me because my husbands girfriend was doing some ugly things to us. My sister lived in the next state, but it was only an hours ride away. Anyway after I was there two months my brother-in-law said God told him to go to school and become a minister. He said I could go to Oklahoma with them but that I would have to work and support the family while he went to school. Which I did because I trusted my sister really cared about me. Anyway when we came back my brother-in-law talked me into divorcing my husband because he said God told him to. Then my brother-in-law married my husband to someone else. He started a faith message church. There was also one from the town he lived in before he went to school. There was an affilate one town over.(Three churches, three pastors) In this other church there was a family that had twin daughters that were three years old and a one year old son. The mother refused to care for these children and I was asked to care for them with a weekly pay.I was raising my own so a few more did not seem like a problem.I took care of them almost a year and then the sister of the father of these children said she wanted the money and she was going to babysit. So I had nothing to say. Four months after the sister started to babysit one of the twins died. All kinds of meetings took place that I knew absolutly nothing about.The very large family of this child that died decided they were going to sue these three pastors. It was decided(I just found this out) It was decided that they( three pastors) would give my 11 year old daughter to this husband to appease him of grief. MY DAUGHTER. Shortly after this death, my daughter was molested by this grown man.He had his cousin, an attorney to get the case dismissed. I could get NO ONE to help me.(now I know why)We had a tug of war with my daughter from age 11 to 18 when she would be legal age that I could not get help for her.They always managed to find her from where I would hide her. (now I know it was MY MOTHER who kept giving her back to them and ALSO the new wife of my husband) MY BABY. MY JENNIFER LYNN. I also just found out that my brother-in-law told my husband and his new wife that he did not have to support my children because we were his sins that he had to walk away from. My Jennifer won all the scholarships the year she graduated. MY JENN earned all her credits to graduate by the first term of her Sophmore year of HS. They have her and she is brainwashed. I saw her for a very short time on Christmas Eve, she thinks she is engaged to him. He never divorced his wife they just lived apart all these years. She does not make sense to me. She never went back to college although the promise was always there. He recaptured her about eight months ago.(Although now I can see he was always controlling her) I got word that his teenage kids beat her up when they feel like it. She is only allowed to work where he works. She sorts mail in a mail sorting house.4 p.m. to 1 a.m. Someone in 3rd grade could do what MY JENN is doing. They tell me like always, that she HAS to stay there. Last week my sister said to me" she is happy leave her alone" and I said to her"everyone knew this happened, and everyone for years told me it happened because I was an unfit mother" She said 'yes' "but you can't prove it" MY OWN FAMILY. MY MOTHER MY SISTER and her husband. I can not see my Jenn. She is right in the next town.She is 28 now. She has to work and give them the paycheck to run the house. There are four angry teenagers living there, a baby and boyfriend of one daughter. She called me the first week in Dec. she said it was the strangest thing, they came home from work and the tenant on the third floor was gone(she said "we do not know where he went" then she said David said we HAVE to move to the third floor today and his children were moving up there,too. The Wife also lives there, his sister told me, it was because she is homeless and the house is in her name.Then she started laughing.I have been told that the pastor that took over the church in Milford is coaching this family to do their "Christain duty" against Jenn. No one can help because she is of legal age and she IS BRAINWASHED. Now I know why they say 1-800 the lost. They are right in front of you doing everyday things. She is scared for my Amanda. On Christmas Eve she must have told her she loved her ten or twelve times.I have been paying a real estate agent money for the last three years. I did not know the real owner of this house is the lawyer that got the case dismissed. When I first looked at this house to rent, it was in our family years and years ago. I have no where to go. I do not know what to do. The police said she has the right to stay there and I have no right to try and help her. Well like I said, I know I can not do anything, but I had to talk about it. My daughter was sold into slavery by my own family. Last week this pastor told me "if it was one of his children, they would not have had to spend one minute in that awful house." My sister told me that "she was the good one and thats why these things didn't happen to her." And I really believe in God. What happened!! Maureen

Doesn't this mean that so and so was hired as minister? Separation of church and state didn't come until the Bill of Rights in 1791 or so. George At 12:54 PM 1/26/01 -0800, you wrote: >In reading some of the minutes of town meetings, I see it said that "it was voted that (so-n-so) should sit in the pulpit." I get the impression that this was an honor of some kind. Can any of you shed some light on this? >Thanks >Sandy >

In a message dated 1/26/01 6:38:18 PM Pacific Standard Time, tkavanag@indiana.edu writes: Whitny, Henry S. IN Spencer Jackson Township 1850 172 15 195 196 Henry S Whitney 34 M Carpenter 400 NY Mahala " 33 F In Wm B " 7 M " Attending School Bradford " 4 M " Turner F " 1 M " Other Whitneys in the same county Whitney, David H. S. IN Spencer Grass Township 1850 172 26 Crooks, Jehoida IN Spencer Grass Township 1850 172 26 350 351 Jeholida Crooks 24 M Framer O Married within the year Mary Z " 32 F 60 KY " David H S Whitney 14 M In John M W " 10 M " Bradford 8 M " Joseph H C " 2 M " Whitney, Joshua B. IN Spencer Grass Township 1850 172 24 311 312 Joshua B Whitney 39 M Merchant 1700 VT Henry B Wade 25 M Framer KY Elizabeth " 25 F " Mary " 3 F In Wm J " 1 M " Because of the difficulty in deciphering the census takers hand writing the following could actually be John G. (Whitney, Waltney or Wattney). I thought I'd include it just in case. Gwaltney, John IN Spencer Grass Township 1850 172 26 348 348 John Gwaltney? 46 M Framer 1200 O Mary H. " 40 F Penna Josiah J. " 20 M " O Washington " 18 M " " Rebecca A. " 17 F " Attending School Rachael " 16 F " 348 349 John Gwaltney? 12 M In Sarah " 8 F " Wm " 7 M " Mary A. " 5 F " Sheborch? H. " 4 M " Simmon? 1 M " Sincerely, Kate Surname Index Abbot, Archer, Arden, Aslebe or Aslett, Baskerville, Beamsley, Benjamin, Benjamis, Blaney, Bowman, Bragg(e), Bray, Brazier, Brooks, Brown, Van Brugh, Burrill, Chenery, Clap(p), Clark, Colburn(e), Dever(e)au(x), Dolling, Dummer Ellis, Eveleth or EVELEIGH, Fairebanke Fairbank, Fairbanks, ffrie Frie, Frye, Fisher, Fisk(e), Flower, Flynt or Flint, French, Fuller Gamblin, Gamlin or Gamlyn, Garnish, Gawroger, Good(e)now, Gookin, Grant, Graves, Grazebrook, Guillims or Duglim, Guy Hamant, Hanlon, Harding, Haynes, Henchman, Hinkesman, Hoar(e) Hogenson, Holmes, Holt, Hull, Hunt, Hunting Jasper, Jochemse, de Kay, Keene, King, Knightly Lewis Marriott, Metcalf(e), Moller, Morgenroth, Morse Norcross, Nubury or NUBERY Palmer, Pares, Parker, Peters, Phillips, Potts Quincy, Randolph, Rebelle, Reynolds, Richards, Robbins, Roehm, Roeloff Roundy Sewall, Sewell or Shewell, Shattuck, Sherman, Silvester or Sylvester, Smith, Staats, Stancliffe, Stanley, Stone, Storer Tainter, Taynter, Tiemroth, de Trieux Waide, Walley, Wendell, Whitehead, Whitney, Wight, Willet, Woods

Ahoy, Ahoy: Whits: My name is Thomas WHITNEY Kavanagh. Some years ago, when I was a graduate student at the University of New Mexico, I happened to be in to the office of my advisor, Karl Schwerin, and I noticed on his filing cabinet, a book entitled _The Whitneys_. So I says to him, "What are you doing with a book about my family?". And he says to me, "Your family?!" And we compare notes, and find that any connection is so far back that there is no conflict of interest. But now, 14 years later, he points me to the WHITNEY-L address. So what's a guy to do. This is what we know about our Whitneys: Henry L.[S?] (b1816?) {where?} m. Mahala [Malinda?] McCoy (b 1817?) 12/17/41 at Rockport, IN William B. 12/5/42 -6/1/65 (42nd Ind, died of disease). Bradford 2/13/45 - 12/3/63 (unspec Ind Reg.; dies of disease) Thomas James (b?) m. Mary Jane Strauss (b 1853) Gentryville, IN Feb 9, 1873 [1874?] -Ernest Jan. 28 1874-Feb 16, 1874 -Travis H. June 22, 1875-Jan 8, 1934 {both Whitney parents, and Travis and Mary Jane move to Girard, Kansas, 1876} Travis m. Rosalie Lowe {1st woman judge on family court in NYC} -Travis H (Jan. 29 1905) -John Law (Nov. 15, 1906) -William Thomas Sept 14, 1908 -Charles A. [Born in Girard, K] Aug. 24 1879 -married Geneva Bamford Aug. 29, 1911 -Mary Catherine b Sept 15,1914 -m George M. Kavanagh (b 1920) 1944 -George 1947 -THOMAS WHITNEY (1949) {me} -Charles Bamford Nov 6, 1915 [my cousins] etc. etc That is, if you go back up the line, since William B., and Bradford both died in the War., for us there is the two line, from Henry to Travis, and via Charles A., to me. But up beyond Henry S/L ca. 1816-187x? {Girard, KS.} we have nothing. Mary Jane Straus Whitney wrote a memoir of her life thru about 1905. I have transcribed it and put it on my web page, http://php.indiana.edu/~tkavanag/maryjane.html If you read it, be aware, my mother called her a "collector of greivances." I also have a set of memoirs from my maternal grandparental side: Charles Whitney married Geneva Bamforth, whose father, Methodist minister Morris Bamforth wrote a manuscript, which I have, "The Bamforths and Luddintons and others." I also have some remiscensces about werkin in th' mills, don't cha know, from my paternal grandmother, Catherine Downs Kavanagh from Blackstone, R.I. tk

Mike.. here are the Whitneys from Falmouth you mention... from Marriage Returns of Cumberland County, Maine prior to 1892: July 2, 1853 Rufus H. Grant of Bath & Nancy E. Whitney of Falmouth; by Lewis Hardy, Esq., J.P. July 31, 1853 David M. Whitney of Cumberland[town] & Emeline M. Dunhame of Falmouth; by Rev. Isaac Carlton. I'd love to learn the location and number of that film...Cheers, Jan

Hello Karl, There is at least one and probably more black Whitney families in Washington, D.C. and environs. Basketball fans will remember Charles "Hawkeye" Whitney, a product of D.C. who went on to star in the Atlantic Coast Conference, where he played basketball, I believe for N.C. State. Ken Whitney Silver Spring, MD ----- Original Message ----- From: karl h schwerin <schwerin@unm.edu> To: <WHITNEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 8:44 AM Subject: Re: [WHITNEY-L] Question > Alonzo B. Whitney, who was white (he is pictured in "Family Treasures" by > David D. Whitney. Lancaster, PA: The Jaques Cattell Press, see no. 4, p. > 18), was Capt. of a company of negros. He was shot 12 December 1864 by a > negro on the picket line near New Orleans. > > Apparently white officers were appointed to lead negro or "Colored" > troops. This is not to say that there may not be (and probably are) some > Black Whitneys. In this case, however, my guess would be that since these > were officers, they were _not_ colored. > > On Thu, 25 Jan 2001, W. WHITNEY wrote: > > > On pages 1006 and 1007 in Phoenix, some of the > > male children of Bennet Whitney and Susan Curtis > > are officers in the "U.S. Colored Troops". Does this > > mean that they were colored themselves or were > > officers of the day all white. > > > > If they were colored, with whom did this line start ? > > > > No offense meant, just curious. > > > > Bill Whitney > > > > > > > > Karl Schwerin SnailMail: Dept. of Anthropology > Univ. of New Mexico Albuquerque, NM 87131 > e-mail: schwerin@unm.edu > > Cultural anthropology...is valuable because it is constantly rediscovering > the normal. Edward Sapir (1949:151) > > ______________________________

I am looking for the marriage of Tabitha Whitney to Charles Markle. Tabitha was the daughter of Abraham and Tabitha Allen Whitney, born on January 13, 1760 in Weston, MA. She died on June 14, 1818 in Liberty, Bedford County, Virginia. I notice that sometimes names of Whitneys are submitted who may or may not be in the submitter's line. Here are two I found in the Cemetery records of the Williams, California Cemetery, New Section: WHITNEY Errol Chester 16 Mar 1894 14 Dec 1973 Jeanette Linscott 11 Dec 1898 21 Jun 1976 Hope it helps someone. Margie Newton newtm@pacbell.net

Dear WRG, Does anyone have any information on the families of Whitney, Adams and Draper? Thank you, Maureen

In reading some of the minutes of town meetings, I see it said that "it was voted that (so-n-so) should sit in the pulpit." I get the impression that this was an honor of some kind. Can any of you shed some light on this? Thanks Sandy

Just received this to confirm what Robert said ... The United States Colored Troops Institute for Local History and Family Research at Hartwick College is an educational institute to promote and encourage original historical and genealogical research about the *200,000 colored men and their 7,000 white officers* who comprised the US Colored Troops during the American Civil War. The Institute encourages communities of America (inclusive of the US, Canada and Caribbean nations) to "find" their local USCT members and to place soldiers and their families within a local historical context through educational and commemorative events. The Institute supports this effort through specific venues. http://www.hartwick.edu/usct/usct.htm Records of the 105th. U.S. Colored Troops http://www.awod.com/gallery/probono/cwchas/usct105.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert L. Ward" <rlward1@erols.com> To: <WHITNEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2001 9:47 PM Subject: Re: [WHITNEY-L] Question > > Bill, All the officers of the U.S. Colored Troops were > Caucasians. Negroes were thought incapable of > command. > > Regards, > > Robert > > Robert L. Ward > WHITNEY Research Group > <http://www.whitneygen.org/> > > > > > At 07:09 PM 1/25/01 +0100, W. WHITNEY wrote: > >On pages 1006 and 1007 in Phoenix, some of the > >male children of Bennet Whitney and Susan Curtis > >are officers in the "U.S. Colored Troops". Does this > >mean that they were colored themselves or were > >officers of the day all white. > > > >If they were colored, with whom did this line start ? > > > >No offense meant, just curious. > > > > Bill Whitney

Thanks to those who responded to my question about the "U.S.Colored Troop". Answers received indicate that, almost until WWII, officers were white, even when the troops were black. Bill Whitney

While scanning a film containing vital recordss from Falmouth, ME (FHL # 0010867) I found several Whitney entries which may be of value to someone. I make no claims for having found all Whitney references in that film. Births in Falmouth, ME: Rose Bell daughter of J.H. and Rose A. Whitney, born 9 Dec 1873 Marriages and intentions 1850-1892: Benford[?] H. Grant of Bath and Miss Nancy C. Whitney of Falm. married by a J.P. 1 July 1853 [The beautiful writing is fancy and the film was sufficiently light so that Grant's first name is not clear; it could be Beuford or something else.] David M. Whitney of Cumberland and Miss Emeline M. Dunham of Falmouth were married by Isaac Carlton[?] 31 July 1853. [same clerk, same problem with the officiant's name] Mike Poston Rockville, Maryland

Alonzo B. Whitney, who was white (he is pictured in "Family Treasures" by David D. Whitney. Lancaster, PA: The Jaques Cattell Press, see no. 4, p. 18), was Capt. of a company of negros. He was shot 12 December 1864 by a negro on the picket line near New Orleans. Apparently white officers were appointed to lead negro or "Colored" troops. This is not to say that there may not be (and probably are) some Black Whitneys. In this case, however, my guess would be that since these were officers, they were _not_ colored. On Thu, 25 Jan 2001, W. WHITNEY wrote: > On pages 1006 and 1007 in Phoenix, some of the > male children of Bennet Whitney and Susan Curtis > are officers in the "U.S. Colored Troops". Does this > mean that they were colored themselves or were > officers of the day all white. > > If they were colored, with whom did this line start ? > > No offense meant, just curious. > > Bill Whitney > > > Karl Schwerin SnailMail: Dept. of Anthropology Univ. of New Mexico Albuquerque, NM 87131 e-mail: schwerin@unm.edu Cultural anthropology...is valuable because it is constantly rediscovering the normal. Edward Sapir (1949:151)

Hi All, I think that I have found Gratia Frances WHITNEY, b. abt 1834 and Edward Cutter LOCKE in Rogersville, Tennessee in 1860. Does anyone know of a Gratia Frances WHITNEY who was b. in Vermont and who lived, also, in Fitchburg, Worcester, MA? Does anyone have anything more on this family Here is what was found in the Tennessee census: HAWKINS COUNTY TENNESSEE 1860 CENSUS E.C. Locke , age 42 Gratia Locke , age 26 Ella W. Locke , age 2 The family was enumerated in the hotel of J.W. Burkhart in Rogersville, Tennessee (District 10). His occupation was "Daguerman." He was born in Massachusetts, Gratia in Vermont, and Ella W. in Tennessee. Edward went on to become secretary and treasurer of the Black Diamond Coal Company in Tennessee. Thanks to Grace McKay, a descendant of Edward Cutter and Grace Frances Whitney LOCKE for the information! Regards, Jerry Harrison jroots@aol.com Albuquerque, NM

Bill, At 07:09 PM 1/25/01 +0100, W. WHITNEY wrote: >On pages 1006 and 1007 in Phoenix, some of the >male children of Bennet Whitney and Susan Curtis >are officers in the "U.S. Colored Troops". Does this >mean that they were colored themselves or were >officers of the day all white. > >If they were colored, with whom did this line start ? > >No offense meant, just curious. > > Bill Whitney All the officers of the U.S. Colored Troops were Caucasians. Negroes were thought incapable of command. Regards, Robert Robert L. Ward WHITNEY Research Group <http://www.whitneygen.org/>

Without pertinent information on the individuals involved, I can only surmise, but I feel certain that they were white officers in charge of colored enlisted men. It was the practice of the army to use white men to lead the colored troops at least until the second world war. The fine movie, "Glory" depicts the first use of colored troops by the Federal army during the Civil War. Mike Poston Rockville, Maryland ----- Original Message ----- From: "W. WHITNEY" <whitney@attcanada.ca> To: <WHITNEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2001 1:09 PM Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Question > On pages 1006 and 1007 in Phoenix, some of the > male children of Bennet Whitney and Susan Curtis > are officers in the "U.S. Colored Troops". Does this > mean that they were colored themselves or were > officers of the day all white. > > If they were colored, with whom did this line start ? > > No offense meant, just curious. > > Bill Whitney > > >