Imagine the following: It's a Wednesday night and you are at a church prayer meeting when somebody runs in from the parking lot and says, "Turn on a radio, turn on a radio." And while the church listens to a little transistor radio with a microphone stuck up to it, the announcement is made: "Two women are lying in a Long Island hospital dying from the mystery flu." Within hours it seems, this thing just sweeps across the country. People are working around the clock trying to find an antidote. Nothing is working. California, Oregon, Arizona, Florida, Massachusetts. It's as though it's just sweeping in from the borders. And then, all of a sudden the news comes out. The code has been broken. A cure can be found. A vaccine can be made. It's going to take the blood of somebody who hasn't been infected, and so, sure enough, all through the Midwest, through all those channels of emergency broadcasting, everyone is asked to do one simple thing: Go to your downtown hospital and have your blood type taken. That's all we ask of you. When you hear the sirens go off in your neighborhood, please make your way quickly, quietly, and safely to the hospitals. Sure enough, when you and your family get down there late on that Friday night, there is a long line, and they've got nurses and doctors coming out and pricking fingers and taking blood and putting labels on it. Your wife and your kids are out there, and they take your blood type and they say, "Wait here in the parking lot and if we call your name, you can be dismissed and go home." You stand around, scared, with your neighbors, wondering what in the world is going on and if this is the end of the world. Suddenly a young man comes running out of the hospital screaming. He's yelling a name and waving a clipboard. What? He yells it again! And your son tugs on your jacket and says, " Daddy, that's me." Before you know it, they have grabbed your boy. Wait a minute. Hold on! And they say, "It's okay, his blood is clean. His blood is pure. We want to make sure he doesn't have the disease. We think he has got the right type." Five tense minutes later, out come the doctors and nurses, crying and hugging one another-some are even laughing. It's the first time you have seen anybody laugh in a week, and an old doctor walks up to you and says, "Thank you, sir. Your son's blood type is perfect. It's clean, it is pure, and we can make the vaccine." As the word begins to spread all across that parking lot full of folks, people are screaming and praying and laughing and crying. But then the gray-haired doctor pulls you and your wife aside and says, "May we see you for moment? We didn't realize that the donor would be a minor and we need... we need you to sign a consent form." You begin to sign and then you see that the number of pints of blood to be taken is empty. "H-how many pints?" And that is when the old doctor's smile fades and he says, "We had no idea it would be little child. We weren't prepared. We need it all!" "But-but...You don't understand." "We are talking about the world here. Please sign. We-we need it all!" Ð3E "But can't you give him a transfusion?" "If we had clean blood we would. Can you sign? Would you sign?" In numb silence, you do. Then they say, "Would you like to have a moment with him before we begin?" Can you walk back? Can you walk back to that room where he sits on a table saying, "Daddy? Mommy? What's going on?" Can you take his hands and say, "Son, your mommy and I love you, and we would never, ever let anything happen to you that didn't just have to be. Do you understand that?" And when that old doctor comes back in and says, "I'm sorry, we've-got to get started. People all over the world are dying. Can you leave? Can you walk out while he is saying, "Dad? Mom? Dad? Why, why have you forsaken me?" And then next week, when they have the ceremony to honor your son, and some folks sleep through it, and some folks don't even come because they go to the lake, and some folks come with a pretentious smile and just pretend to care. Would you want to jump up and say, "MY SON DIED FOR YOU! DON'T YOU CARE?" Is that what GOD wants to say? "MY SON DIED FOR YOU. DON'T YOU KNOW HOW MUCH I CARE?" "Father, seeing it from your eyes breaks our hearts. Maybe now we can begin to comprehend the great Love you have for us." You can now SPREAD THE GOSPEL... or delete it. If you are not ashamed of God or what he has done for you pass this on, PLEASE spread the word. Someone on your address list might not know God and this could change there life. So, take a few moments to forward this.

Dear Susan: Our large group of Whitney researchers may shed light on the Whitney brothers in Arizona of interest to you: Andrew D. Whitney and Jacob W. Whitney. Therefore, I'll forward a copy of your message to them for reply, since my records center around New England ancestors. Thank you for writing .. and good luck! Jeanne (Whitney) Muse jwmuse@compuserve.com ------------------------------------------ Major Surnames I am researching: GOLDSMITH, HARDING, MUSE, REED, REGNIER, WHITNEY http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/jwmuse/roots.htm ----------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: Kent and Susan Henry To: jwmuse@compuserve.com Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 6:00 PM Subject: Whitney Brothers Dear Jeanne, I am researching the history of a cattle ranch and small farm I live on near Mayer, Yavapai County, Arizona. 160 acres of the headquarters of the ranch (Sec 22, T12N, R2E of the G&SRBM) was homesteaded by Andrew D. Whitney in 1892 and another 120 acres was homesteaded by Jacob W. Whitney in 1911. I have found out quite a bit about these two brothers (births, civil war vets, wives, etc.) but not their children nor where or when they died. There is also an E. L. Whitney who had a share in the water rights located in 1892 but I'm not sure who this is--may-be Andrew's son. If you are interested in more information, I would like to share it. Also if you have any information on these brother's and their descendants, I would like to know about them or may-be ask them if they knew about the ranch and any stories related to it. I'm a member of the Yavapai Cowbelles (Cattlewomen) and we are putting together another history of Yavapai County-- this is our third, the first one was published in 1951. The books are mainly about ranching families and stories about them. I am including the Whitney's in my history and am hoping for some interesting details about them. Please e-mail me at kshenry@futureone.com Thank you, Susan Henry Mayer, Arizona

Hello Listers, May I, in a friendly way, please ask that folks take the time to provide an accurate subject heading in their posts? I have found that I deleted a msg. I should have read regarding a Whitney ancestors query because the subject heading was "in reply" to a different query... and I find it frustrating wasting time reading what I thought was another interesting msg. about DNA only to discover it was a "disaster plan as metaphor" that had nothing to do with DNA research. While I am perfectly capable of hitting "delete" for postings that I'm not interested in, I'd like a heads-up! Thank you, and with no malice aforethought, Lorraine Ferguson-Goss __________________________________________________ Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/

WRG: >From another maillist, this woman has been extracting genealogically related data from early sources and putting them on the Worcester Co., MA, maillist. Other things she has made available can be found at the address below. Allan E. Green http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ma/state/main/tidbits4.html Marilyn LabbeThe Puritan Recorder, Boston, Thursday, July 20, 1854 Deaths In Auburndale, 16th inst., David S., son of the late Mr. David S. WHITNEY, of Northampton, 18.

Dear Lois, Unfortunately, I have no info to give you, but can relate with the difficulties of finding information for the early 1860's - my ggrandmother was also born in that time frame and I've been searching for more than 10 years for her. The time frame is just a little before most towns/states required records and a bit after the majority of early vitals that seem to all end around 1850. So, I empathize with you and wish you luck. Lyn Legere LoisBauman@cs.com wrote: > My Grandfather Mentle, Mantle or Mintle, Whitney Born 1863-? Cannot find > out anything re this fellow. 1900 census in Wellsville, Allegany Co.NYshowed > he was born in NY but have no idea where. Do not have parents names or > siblings. My father was born in Potter Co. Pa. 10-17-1875 was the eldest. I > have one living sister who is 90 and is the only one that we have that can > give us any info that she remembers. She recalls that my father stated their > was a connection between The Whitney-Paine and our father but she does not > know how. Also states that was told there was an adoption somewhere in the > background. This could have been with my great grandmother as she is shown > as a Cotton when she was 6. living with Family names Kibbe. She is shown as > a Kibbe in the death record of my Grandmother. However since we can find > notheing on M Whitney we do not know. Also he left area where my parents > lived which was Fremont Ohio sometime around 1913 or therafter and went to a > western state. My fathers younger bros Norman and Robert were with him and a > lady named Bertha Or Myra. We have been told that he had children out there > but do not have any more info than that. My dad was Berniece James B. 1885, > His bros. were Irving Dewitt b.1888, Louis Ebenezer b.1892, Norman Fuller b. > 1896 Robert Archabald b. 1901. Some were born in NY and some in Potter > county Pa. Their mothers name was Mary Fuller b. 1868 in Bingham, Potter pa. > Died Weelsvill, Allegany Co Ny. 1903. This is all the info we have. My > cousin Mary Heinlien and myself are trying to get the grandfathers genology > together but have definitly hit a brick wall. Any help out there would be > appreciated. > Thank you. Lois Whitney Bauman-Wood.

Dear Barry and Group, Thank you for the detailed explanation of the DNA process. It is a somewhat complex technology for those of us who are science-illiterate. Thank you for putting together the bits and pieces I have heard about into a reasonable and very understandable explanation. Lyn Legere Barry Whitney wrote: > On Mon, 29 Jan 2001, Victoria Whitney Landau wrote: > > > comments that stated that the Whitney blood would be so diluted among > > us that there is probably no statisically significant difference > > between all of us and the general population. > > Dear Cousins, > > At each generation, half of a parent's genes (alleles) are passed to each > child. If you are in the 11th generation below John Whitney the > immigrant, you inherited very little of your DNA from John (1/2 to the > 11th power). The exception is the Y chromosome, that males inherit intact > (for practical purposes) from their fathers. Each male Whitney of today > who is descended from John Whitney the immigrant has basically the same Y > chromosome as John had (perhaps one basepair per million having changed by > mutation at each generation). So it is conceivable that if John had some > uncommon haplotype of DNA markers on his Y chromsome, that that haplotype > could be used to show relationships among present-day Whitney males (to > show kinship to the John/Elinor line vs. Henry, for instance). > > The quality of DNA from old sources depends on how well it was preserved. > Very cold is helpful, and very dry is also good. In any case, DNA > retrieved from a long-buried ancestor would be expected to be of rather > poor quality (short fragments) and low quantity. It might still be > possible to do analyses based on PCR (DNA amplification) but not Southern > Blots (standard DNA fingerprinting). DNA can only be found in nucleated > cells. Thus, cut hair from a baby book or red blood cells would not be > useful as DNA sources. (Whole blood contains enough white cells to > provide DNA, and DNA can be prepared from hair bulbs pulled from the > scalp.) > > It is certainly possible to save DNA today for studies to be done in the > distant future. > > After the complete sequence of the Y chromosome is known and regions that > contain suitable degrees of variability have been identified, it will > probably be possible to do an interesting Whitney Y chromosome study. > > Yours, Barry > > John Barry-11 Whitney III > My Whitney Ancestry: http://members.tripod.com/~bwhitney/whitney.htm > Genealogy Search Suggestions: http://members.tripod.com/~bwhitney/ > Genetics consultations: http://home.earthlink.net/~ultihealth/genetics/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Generation Inherited > John-1 Genes > 2 0.5 > 3 0.25 > 4 0.125 > 5 0.0625 > 6 0.03125 > 7 0.015625 > 8 0.0078125 > 9 0.00390625 > 10 0.001953125 > 11 0.000976563 > 12 0.000488281 > 13 0.000244141 > 14 0.00012207

I am not sure how this got to the list, since my question to Karl was in a private e-mail. But, ... On Tue, 30 Jan 2001, karl h schwerin wrote: > I'm not really a genetic expert. However, I think the discussion is > focussing too much on chromosomal DNA. We might get more useful > information by looking at mitochondrial DNA. This, however, is only passed > through the maternal line, so we could document our descent from Elinor, > but NOT from John. > > On Mon, 29 Jan 2001, thomas w kavanagh wrote: > > > Hi Karl: > > > > What do you think of all this Whitney DNA stuff? > > > > You may be the one to speak on the subject. Yes, we could document descent from Elinor [I am new to the list, Elinor and John Whitney, who?] but only in the matrilineal line, via mitrochondrial DNA. And since the name, the patronym, 'Whitney' passes in the male line, the matrilineal mitrochondrial DNA would not help at all. And since the genetic basis of blood group determinants gets mixed up at each genetic split, correlations of blood type and such a large group as the Whitneys, of necessity, becomes irrelevant. Let us speak no more of it. tk Thomas Whitney Kavanagh Curator of Collections Mathers Museum Indiana University

I'm so glad my information could help you, Judy! The information in my file came from Mary Landkamer <cn85313@navix.net>, so I've sent a copy of this message to her. (I hope her email address is still current.) I will also forward a copy of this message to the Whitney Research Group in case someone else connects and wants to get in touch with you. Be sure and visit the WRG web site and do a search for Sylvia. There may be more contained in Pierce's Whitney Genealogy and elsewhere on the site. http://www.whitneygen.org Briefly, she was Sylvia-7 Whitney (Ephraim-6, Amos-5, Amos-4, Nathaniel-3, Benjamin-2, John-1). Jeanne (Whitney) Muse jwmuse@compuserve.com ------------------------------------------ Major Surnames I am researching: GOLDSMITH, HARDING, MUSE, REED, REGNIER, WHITNEY http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/jwmuse/roots.htm ----------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: W.W. & J.J. VIOLET To: jwmuse@compuserve.com Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 9:34 AM Subject: Sylvia Whitney of Tuscarawas, Ohio b. 1812 Dear Jeanne, My ancestor is Sylvia (Silva) Whitney b. 1812 (L. D. S. records confuse her with two Sylvas in Maine with birthdate 1807-8 or 1811 who did not leave Maine and married other man). Mine married Jacob Wright b. Sept. 24, 1807, a peddler on 1850 Rush, Tuscarawas Co., Ohio census, s/o James Wright of MD. came to Ohio 1829-30, wife Barbara. Jacob and Sylva's children: Kasarah (Maria) b.Sept. 26, 1833 m. John Dues, Mary J. b. April 31, 1835 m. Eli Yost, Wm. C b. Nov. 1841 m. Susan Kiser, James W. b. Nov. 3, 1843 m. Sarah J. Beougher, Margaret b. 1846 m. Josiah Kiser, Thomas G. b. 1849 m. Theresa Caroline May, Samuel J. b. 1850 m. Barbara E. Baucher, Annie Elizabeth Wright b. 1855 m. George W. Baucher, all in Mercer Co. where they all moved in 1860. This is the first time I found Whitney ancestry past Ephraim, I'm thrilled. I can send printed descendency to you. I have never dowloaded a GEDCOM yet, except on Familytree off the World Family Tree they sponsor, on another family line of mine. I use Familytree software version 8. I will try it with yours, to get more detailed family history. My address is: Judy Violet 210 N. Mall Dr., #140 St. George, Ut. 84790-1477 e-mail: jjv@redrock.net

Just thought I'd add my info. I have B- blood type, which I inherited from my mother, and have passed on to my son. My father is from the Whitney line and has O+ blood type. Vicki Dellinger<br clear=all><hr>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at <a href="http://explorer.msn.com">http://explorer.msn.com</a><br></p>

I'm not really a genetic expert. However, I think the discussion is focussing too much on chromosomal DNA. We might get more useful information by looking at mitochondrial DNA. This, however, is only passed through the maternal line, so we could document our descent from Elinor, but NOT from John. On Mon, 29 Jan 2001, thomas w kavanagh wrote: > Hi Karl: > > What do you think of all this Whitney DNA stuff? > > You may be the one to speak on the subject. > > tk > > Karl Schwerin SnailMail: Dept. of Anthropology Univ. of New Mexico Albuquerque, NM 87131 e-mail: schwerin@unm.edu Cultural anthropology...is valuable because it is constantly rediscovering the normal. Edward Sapir (1949:151)

Hello WRG and Larry This is my ggg Grandfather, Charles Edward Whitney b Mar 17, 1809 Lisbon/Webster Maine d Aug 1, 1897 Hartland, Me. buried in Pine Grove Cemetary on Hwy 152, he m abt 1835 Annie Knox b Oct 4, 1815 d Oct 15, 1897. I have his father listed as E. Whitney b Topsham wife unknown. This has also been my brick wall. Please feel free to email me. Rosemary Naastad Bemidji, Minnesota Larry Glatz wrote: > Dear Whitney Sleuths: > > I am wondering if anyone might have any information on the ancestry > of the following Edward WHITNEY. The few facts below are from the > 1850 census of Palmyra, Somerset County, Maine. By 1870, this Edward > Whitney had moved to the neighboring town of Hartland, where he is also > found in 1880, at which time he is said to be 75 years old and his wife, > Anna, is 70. > > In 1850, the family looked like this: > > Edward WHITNEY, age 40, born in Maine (as are all others here) > (His occupation is given as "Mill man.") > Anna, 34, > Emeline, 14, > Thomas O., 12 > Lucinda, 8 > Eben, 6 > Sumner, 4 > Loantha, 1 > > This listing may be found on page 6-A of the Palmyra census, > lines 27ff. The family was polled on 9 August 1850. > > Any earlier connections for Edward or his wife, Anna, would be > greatly appreciated. > > Thank you, > > Larry Glatz > Harrison, Maine

Sorry my fathers birthdate was 10-17-1885 not 1875

My Grandfather Mentle, Mantle or Mintle, Whitney Born 1863-? Cannot find out anything re this fellow. 1900 census in Wellsville, Allegany Co.NYshowed he was born in NY but have no idea where. Do not have parents names or siblings. My father was born in Potter Co. Pa. 10-17-1875 was the eldest. I have one living sister who is 90 and is the only one that we have that can give us any info that she remembers. She recalls that my father stated their was a connection between The Whitney-Paine and our father but she does not know how. Also states that was told there was an adoption somewhere in the background. This could have been with my great grandmother as she is shown as a Cotton when she was 6. living with Family names Kibbe. She is shown as a Kibbe in the death record of my Grandmother. However since we can find notheing on M Whitney we do not know. Also he left area where my parents lived which was Fremont Ohio sometime around 1913 or therafter and went to a western state. My fathers younger bros Norman and Robert were with him and a lady named Bertha Or Myra. We have been told that he had children out there but do not have any more info than that. My dad was Berniece James B. 1885, His bros. were Irving Dewitt b.1888, Louis Ebenezer b.1892, Norman Fuller b. 1896 Robert Archabald b. 1901. Some were born in NY and some in Potter county Pa. Their mothers name was Mary Fuller b. 1868 in Bingham, Potter pa. Died Weelsvill, Allegany Co Ny. 1903. This is all the info we have. My cousin Mary Heinlien and myself are trying to get the grandfathers genology together but have definitly hit a brick wall. Any help out there would be appreciated. Thank you. Lois Whitney Bauman-Wood.

Sharon -- I think I see your point. Perhaps we could prove some statistical bias towards A negative. Personally, I have my mother's blood type but I am almost certain that my Dad - my link to Whitney - had the rarest blood type (B negative). Isn't B- the one present is just 1-2% of the population? Anyway, whatever that ultra-rare type is, that's the one he had. I remember him telling us, as kids. Now, if B- were common among Whitneys - and there *are* simple tests to demonstrate the probability of such a preponderance being statistically significant, I could see the blood type connection being an important bit of evidence, but one would still have to control for the prior probability of "local gene pools" -- especially back in 1700s. Even the A neg pattern would be somewhat convincing but, at best, the blood type would be passed down only 50% of the time anyway - right? That's my layman's view anyway. Interesting stuff ... but I am putting myself to sleep just talking about it so I will stop now <g>. Steven ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn Barnett" <gbarnett@cableone.net> To: <WHITNEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 12:01 AM Subject: Re: [WHITNEY-L] DNA > My Mother , my three sisters and myself are all A neg with the RH > factor...Would be interesting to see how many Whitney's are in that 15% > group! > > Sharon > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Twigs1991@aol.com> > To: <WHITNEY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 6:49 PM > Subject: [WHITNEY-L] DNA > > > > This is very interesting. I have blood type A negative. I have been told > > that the negative type blood comes originally from the Spanish Pyrenees. > It > > would be interesting to know if the Whitney line had origins in Spain. > > > > Ruthie > > > >

My Mother , my three sisters and myself are all A neg with the RH factor...Would be interesting to see how many Whitney's are in that 15% group! Sharon ----- Original Message ----- From: <Twigs1991@aol.com> To: <WHITNEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 6:49 PM Subject: [WHITNEY-L] DNA > This is very interesting. I have blood type A negative. I have been told > that the negative type blood comes originally from the Spanish Pyrenees. It > would be interesting to know if the Whitney line had origins in Spain. > > Ruthie >

I agree with Jo Hogle and Greg Cote. I'm perfectly satisfied with the paper trail (ecstatic, in fact) for my own personal search, but would certainly be willing to cooperate with a project that could contribute to the wider collection of knowledge for genetics or some other research area. Merry Whitney

On Mon, 29 Jan 2001, Victoria Whitney Landau wrote: > comments that stated that the Whitney blood would be so diluted among > us that there is probably no statisically significant difference > between all of us and the general population. Dear Cousins, At each generation, half of a parent's genes (alleles) are passed to each child. If you are in the 11th generation below John Whitney the immigrant, you inherited very little of your DNA from John (1/2 to the 11th power). The exception is the Y chromosome, that males inherit intact (for practical purposes) from their fathers. Each male Whitney of today who is descended from John Whitney the immigrant has basically the same Y chromosome as John had (perhaps one basepair per million having changed by mutation at each generation). So it is conceivable that if John had some uncommon haplotype of DNA markers on his Y chromsome, that that haplotype could be used to show relationships among present-day Whitney males (to show kinship to the John/Elinor line vs. Henry, for instance). The quality of DNA from old sources depends on how well it was preserved. Very cold is helpful, and very dry is also good. In any case, DNA retrieved from a long-buried ancestor would be expected to be of rather poor quality (short fragments) and low quantity. It might still be possible to do analyses based on PCR (DNA amplification) but not Southern Blots (standard DNA fingerprinting). DNA can only be found in nucleated cells. Thus, cut hair from a baby book or red blood cells would not be useful as DNA sources. (Whole blood contains enough white cells to provide DNA, and DNA can be prepared from hair bulbs pulled from the scalp.) It is certainly possible to save DNA today for studies to be done in the distant future. After the complete sequence of the Y chromosome is known and regions that contain suitable degrees of variability have been identified, it will probably be possible to do an interesting Whitney Y chromosome study. Yours, Barry John Barry-11 Whitney III My Whitney Ancestry: http://members.tripod.com/~bwhitney/whitney.htm Genealogy Search Suggestions: http://members.tripod.com/~bwhitney/ Genetics consultations: http://home.earthlink.net/~ultihealth/genetics/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Generation Inherited John-1 Genes 2 0.5 3 0.25 4 0.125 5 0.0625 6 0.03125 7 0.015625 8 0.0078125 9 0.00390625 10 0.001953125 11 0.000976563 12 0.000488281 13 0.000244141 14 0.00012207

Hello all - The expense not withstanding and all the other complications of drawing samples for DNA, etc. - what seems of most interest to me is to see, if it is possible with this technology, if the Henry Whitney and John Whitney families are related, which up to now has been an unknown. Lyn Legere Maureen wrote: > Hi, > My dad was taught German and Latin by age eight or nine. His mother > wanted him to be a priest and his father wanted him to become a surgeon or a > lawyer. > He was an alter boy until age eighteen. He was drafted into World War II. > He drew short straw and was sent to the front lines of Germany. He was not > expected to return and he married my mother on a weekend pass, so someone > would be waiting for him, should he return. > He was leading his troops into a Victory battle when a bomb landed near > him and buried him alive. > A young man we do not know went back to see if my dad was still alive and > hand dug him out. > By this time my father was pumped with adrenalin and raced ahead and led > his men into the victory battle. > My dad was of thin build, but muscular. Blue eyes and reddish blond > hair.Maybe about 5' 10 or 11 inches. He could use both hands left and > right. He played golf and baseball left handed. He could write with both > hands. > A lawyer, a doctor, no not for my dad. He had to go to the front lines and > try to help stop the war against Hitler. > In later years he graduated from college and went into the counseling > profession to counsel on how to keep families together. > He always wanted me to become a lawyer. > I would have liked it, but I went to Nursing school. > My dad use to read about twenty books a week. We use to say he had shares in > the town Library. > When I think of the name Whitney I think dark hair, I do not know why. > Maureen > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Babseeb@aol.com> > To: <WHITNEY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 1:17 PM > Subject: Re: [WHITNEY-L] DNA/or- other characteistics in past generations > > > The DNA Discussion Is interesting. > > I would like to see some comparison of the size/other features and > > occupations. My Whitneys were small or short in stature. The picture I > have > > of my ggrandfather shows a fine featured aesthetic man. He was a > professor > > and many of his 8 sons were lawyers. > > Most all of the young people today are of larger size than during the > > 1800s. Nutrition today is so much improved. Many more are attending the > > Universities than even in my generation. There are so many more fields > in > > the study of the sciences and Math. > > Barbara Black in Sacramento > > > >

The DOOLEY listers are arranging for DNA testing. They are working with the organization below. Apparently, they have been quoted a price/cost of $200 per individual test, since many want to participate. The test is done with a mouth swab inside the cheek. You can read all about the test at the link below. There is also a RootsWeb DNA maillist. Theola Walden Baker ****************************************************************** > We are working with Bennett Greenspan the president of : > > http://www.FamilyTreeDNA.com > > I don't have any other information on how to contact him other than possibly > this email address <bcg@familytreedna.com> > > > > To subscribe to GENEALOGY-DNA-L, send a message to > > GENEALOGY-DNA-L-request@rootsweb.com > > that contains in the body of the message the command > > subscribe > > and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software > requires one, just use subscribe in the subject, too. > > To contact the GENEALOGY-DNA-L list administrator, send mail to > GENEALOGY-DNA-admin@rootsweb.com. >

Hi WRG, I transcribed an interesting obituary for the husband of my great great aunt, Sarah Agnes Whitney. George Savage was quite a character and one story from the Civil War is incredible, sure wish I could learn more. He died in 1909. My question is... Is there any interest in my posting this obit to this list? Or if anyone is interested I can forward it privately. Jo Hogle JHogle@mn.mediaone.net