Longevity seems to run in the Whitney line. My grandmother, Celia Setzler Hastings lived to the age of 97, sharp as a tack until the last year or 2 when her short term memory failed slightly. Her three siblings all lived into their 80s. Their mother Julia Ardelle Whitney Setzler passed on at the age of 70. Henry Payson Whitney (Julia's father) was 76; his father, John Whitney Jr.,was only 56 and I am have yet to determine the cause of his young death. However his father, John Whitney, was 85 when he died in 1834. John's father was Elijah Whitney who reached 76 years. My mother is 81 and healthier than I am. Two of her 3 siblings died after the age of 85, she has one living sister who turns 86 in just a few days. It is interesting to look at those statistics, and I am fortunate that longevity seems to run in the lines of all 4 of my grandparents. But that Whitney stock, we are pretty sturdy folks. Jo Hogle

Gene comparisons, continued: My grandfather, William Minot Whitney 3rd died "in his 96th year" and his sister Mabel Whitney died aged 103, his 1/2 brother (not a Whitney) Marcellus Parsons died at 95. Whitney A. Talcott ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 11:37 AM Subject: Re: [WHITNEY-L] Col. Nathan Whitney -- an interesting Whitney indeed! > Here are other long lived Whitney descendants. My grandmother Margaret > Dyer > Byard, descended from Benjamin, died a day shy of 101, and her daughter, > my > mother, died at 96. > > Joe Keller > >

As far back as I can go (that irrepressible Calvin!) the ages at death were as follows. My Dad: Austin Calderwood Whitney 81 (Pancreatic Cancer) Grandfather: William Emery Whitney 84 (Cancer) GGF: Merritt Austin Whitney 69 ("La Grippe followed by Pneumonia") GGGF: Calvin F. Whitney 78 (Heart Disease) GGGGF: Calvin Whitney ????? in 1832. We have to keep in mind that all of these Whitneys have other genetic backgrounds that contribute to longevity--or lack of same. Marion Martin

Here are other long lived Whitney descendants. My grandmother Margaret Dyer Byard, descended from Benjamin, died a day shy of 101, and her daughter, my mother, died at 96. Joe Keller

Albert, Michael, It is my intention to investigate the Whitney records at Univ Bangor when I can get over there for a day or two. I also want to look up the late Elwyn Evans archive at Hereford Record Office while I'm out that way, as well as some of my own ancestral records. Maybe spring/summer this year. Will let you all know of course. In the mean time, don't let me put you off hiring 'a poor college student' - I'm sure there are a few of those around! Regards John G Whitney Oxford, UK

Dear Greg and WRG: In reference to long lived Whitneys, my grandmother, Alice May Whitney, lived to be 96, and her daughter, my mother, lived until age 91. I hope I inherited their genes for aging! Happy Hunting! Allan E. Green

Hello, Greg. I found your story of Eliza Whtney very interesting. I, too, am a descendent of Benjamin. My Whitney line comes from my mother, Ruby Simonds Chapman (Irene Whitney Simonds, Charles Whitney, Moses H, Sedate, John, John, Samuel, John, Benjamin,John). Not only am I right now reading a novel where the protagonist is trying to bring an old apple orchard back to life, but my father's Chapman roots, which also go back to 15th century arrival in Massachusetts, include a many-times-over grandfather who was a brother to the g-grandfather of Jonathan Chapman (Johnny Appleseed). So, now I know that I have pioneering apple growers, introducing the fruit to the midwest, on both branches. Neat. Thank you for sharing your g-g-grandfather's story with us. Elaine Haberkamp New Hampshire -------Original Message------- From: Greg Nickels Date: 01/15/05 18:54:16 To: [email protected] Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Col. Nathan Whitney -- an interesting Whitney indeed! Greetings Whitney List! I am a great-great grandson of Eliza Whitney of Franklin Grove, Illinois. Eliza's father, Colonel Nathan Whitney (Nathan, Jonathan, Jonathan, Jonathan, Benjamin, John) was born in Conway, Massachusetts on January 22, 1791 and lived to celebrate his 100th birthday. He opened a farm near Allison, New York, and another at Elba, New York. Nathan received three military commissions, those of captain, lieutenant-colonel and colonel from De Witt Clinton, Governor of New York. He served in the war of 1812, and was mentioned for bravery at the battle of Lake Erie. Col. Nathan visited what later became Franklin Grove, Illinois in 1835, 1836 and 1837, his family following in 1838. He was one of three commissioners to organize the county of Lee, and then held the office of county commissioner. His nursery was the first north of the Illinois river. The Whitney orchard was well known -- Col. Whitney brought with him many seeds of fruit trees for planting. By 1843 he had a large orchard and in 1847 began selling fine apples and other fruit. He also perfected new varieties by grafting and it is said that he had developed numerous types of apples. One that came to be well known was the "Whitney #20 Crabapple." He shipped fruit and nursery stock all over the country and helped to establish other orchards locally. Col. Whitney's home (also known as Franklin Grove Nursery and Orchards 1620 Whitney Road, Franklin Grove) was placed on the National Register of Historic Places (#90001726) in 1990. The March 7, 1891 edition of Scientific American said he was probably the oldest living Mason in the world. The one hundredth anniversary of Col. Whitney's birth was made the occasion of a gathering of prominent masons from all over Illinois. Nathan Whitney Chapter No. 129, Royal Arch Masons, named in honor of "Father Whitney", presented him with a solid silver platter, suitably inscribed, and several hundred congratulatory letters and telegrams were received. He passed away June 11, 1891 and he was laid to rest in Oakwood Cemetery in Dixon, Illinois. Three of Col. Whitney's brothers -- Luther (96), Otis (99) and Cheeney (91) were also very long lived. Interestingly three sisters lived to adulthood, two passing in their 20's and one at 35 years of age. Are there any others descendants of this Whitney line on the list with other information or stories to share? I would welcome hearing from you! Best wishes -- Greg Nickels Seattle, Washington

Greetings Whitney List! I am a great-great grandson of Eliza Whitney of Franklin Grove, Illinois. Eliza's father, Colonel Nathan Whitney (Nathan, Jonathan, Jonathan, Jonathan, Benjamin, John) was born in Conway, Massachusetts on January 22, 1791 and lived to celebrate his 100th birthday. He opened a farm near Allison, New York, and another at Elba, New York. Nathan received three military commissions, those of captain, lieutenant-colonel and colonel from De Witt Clinton, Governor of New York. He served in the war of 1812, and was mentioned for bravery at the battle of Lake Erie. Col. Nathan visited what later became Franklin Grove, Illinois in 1835, 1836 and 1837, his family following in 1838. He was one of three commissioners to organize the county of Lee, and then held the office of county commissioner. His nursery was the first north of the Illinois river. The Whitney orchard was well known -- Col. Whitney brought with him many seeds of fruit trees for planting. By 1843 he had a large orchard and in 1847 began selling fine apples and other fruit. He also perfected new varieties by grafting and it is said that he had developed numerous types of apples. One that came to be well known was the "Whitney #20 Crabapple." He shipped fruit and nursery stock all over the country and helped to establish other orchards locally. Col. Whitney's home (also known as Franklin Grove Nursery and Orchards 1620 Whitney Road, Franklin Grove) was placed on the National Register of Historic Places (#90001726) in 1990. The March 7, 1891 edition of Scientific American said he was probably the oldest living Mason in the world. The one hundredth anniversary of Col. Whitney's birth was made the occasion of a gathering of prominent masons from all over Illinois. Nathan Whitney Chapter No. 129, Royal Arch Masons, named in honor of "Father Whitney", presented him with a solid silver platter, suitably inscribed, and several hundred congratulatory letters and telegrams were received. He passed away June 11, 1891 and he was laid to rest in Oakwood Cemetery in Dixon, Illinois. Three of Col. Whitney's brothers -- Luther (96), Otis (99) and Cheeney (91) were also very long lived. Interestingly three sisters lived to adulthood, two passing in their 20's and one at 35 years of age. Are there any others descendants of this Whitney line on the list with other information or stories to share? I would welcome hearing from you! Best wishes -- Greg Nickels Seattle, Washington

----- Original Message ----- From: Albert E. Durrell<mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Friday, January 14, 2005 5:59 PM Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Whitney Manor Records Anyone ever have an opportunity to see what is in the Whitney manor records at the University of Wales in Bangor? I've been seriously thinking about trying to find a poor college student over there and pay him to copy them for me. That is if no one else is working on getting hold of them some how else. Michael Whitney

Anyone ever have an opportunity to see what is in the Whitney manor records at the University of Wales in Bangor?

I just discovered that the Proceedings of the Old Bailey in London are now online. The collection is indexed and covers 1674 to 1834. The website is located at: http://www.oldbaileyonline.org/ I found 58 records containing people with the surname Whitney and one with the surname Whitnie. 100,000 trials are included, as are 60,000 scanned pages of the original documents. Here is one record as an example: James Whitney, Benjamin Kallow, theft with violence: robbery, 16 Jan 1693 James Whitney, otherwise called Captain Whitney, Butcher, the great Highway-man, was a second time Indicted, together with Benjamin Kallow, Gent, for Robbing one John Smith at South-Mims-wash on the 10th of November last, of 100 yards of Lace, value 50 l. Neither of them made any Exceptions against the Jury; only Mr. Whitney desired none might be sworn amongst them, that were of the Hundred where the Robbery was done, which was granted by the Court; then the Witnesses were call'd and sworn for the King; The first was Mr. Smith, who said he was Robbed by seven Men, but he did not know them: The next Witness swore flatly against Mr. Whitney, that he Robbed him first, and afterward he went to Mr. Smith and Robbed him, and that he stob'd several Carriers Horses at the same time; but there was no Evidence could charge Kallow, so he was acquitted of this Indictment. Whitney being ask'd what he had to say for himself; answered in short, That he knew nothing of the Matter, and that the Man was hard-mouth'd. But was answer'd, That his mouth was soft enough to do his business. And could not prove where he was at that time, so he was found guilty of the Robbery.

I too have notice a major reduction in the Whitney-L activity in the past few months. but I did manage to come across your recent exchange to which I am replying. I believe I am in the WOW line, have had my DNA done and am interested to have further work done on it if it is just a matter of giving them the go ahead to do it , and or relatively inexpensive. ...Stu ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon Whitney" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 8:10 AM Subject: [WHITNEY-L] ? from Whitney Keen > Hi Whitney, > > The Whitney List appears to be active. At least I am getting a few items > regularly, although not as much as in the past. I think there were four or > five this morning. I'll post your info and maybe those in charge of the > list > can determine why you're not getting the messages. > > Re your commentary on the John-1/W-O-W lineage, I'd really like to learn > if > there are some connections. I would think there are, but you are probably > correct that it will take a test with increased markers. Can this be done > with the material we have already submitted? In other words, can they run > the test using our swab information if we pay an increased fee for the > additional testing? > > Thanks, > > Jon > > > > >> From: Whitney Keen <[email protected]> >> Organization: Repeat-O-Type Manufacturing Corp. >> Reply-To: [email protected] >> Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2005 21:46:34 -0500 >> To: Jon Whitney <[email protected]> >> Subject: Thomas Whitney descendants and DNA >> >> Hi Jon >> >> I haven't seen anaything fromteh Whitney list in several months and >> wondered if it is down or not being monitored these days. Way back in >> July you asked if it is possible to test the DNA to see (or confirm) if >> there is a direct relationship from the Whitneys of whitney-on-Wye and >> the John-1 line. Of course it can be done, but I have not found any >> direct descendants of the W-O-W Whitneys to test. I have tested two >> people who live in England and claim to be male line Whitneys (one is >> not named Whitney, but he has a convoluted personal history to explain >> that). Neither one was close to the John-1 line at twelve markers. >> However, it now appears that the minimum number of markers that should >> be tested is 25, with 37 preferable, because people who match at 22/25 >> are a lot closer than those who match at 9/12. If the list is still in >> business and there are people who are descended from teh British >> Whitneys of WOW, I would appreciate knowing who they are and I will try >> to contact them. Anyway, if the Whitney-list is still in business, feel >> free to post this on it. I haven't posted on it because it appears not >> to bo in operation. >> >> Whitney Keen >> >> >> > > >

Roger and all, At 04:37 PM 5/18/04, karl h schwerin wrote: >Roger - > >My 5 g-grandfather Joseph Whitney was 80-90 years older than your Joseph. >You might, however, check the WhitneyGen webpage for Joseph Whitney: >http://www.whitneygen.org/archives/extracts/pierce/names.html#WJ > >You could also contact Norene LaTour who lives in Vermont and is very >knowlegable about that area: <[email protected]> > >Can anyone else help Roger with his search? > >On Sun, 16 May 2004, Roger Woolf (Home-MAIN) wrote: > > > Karl, > > > > Trying to establish a link with my Wolf Family to a Whitney line. (we > have an old bible with Whitney entries on the inside cover that has been > in the family for quite some time)---see below for details. Any links to > your Vermont Whitneys (potential family links are for Wolf, Briggs, > warford)....Roger > > > > > > > > > > From a 1851 Bible the following is listed inside the cover. > > Joseph Whitney b feb 21st d May 2nd 1877 > > married April 27th 1811 to > > Abigail Townes b jan 22nd 1791 d may 3, 1872 > > > > Children ( I have Birth dates 1812-1829 for each) > > Hannah Whitney > > Abigail Whitney > > Joseph S. Whitney > > Aaron Whitney > > Mark Whitney > > Augustine Whitney > > Richard Whitney > > Susan A. Whitney > > Norman Whitney > > Ira Whitney > > > >Karl Schwerin SnailMail: Dept. of Anthropology >Univ. of New Mexico Albuquerque, NM 87131 >e-mail: [email protected] > >Cultural anthropology...is valuable because it is constantly rediscovering >the normal. Edward Sapir (1949:151) I see on our Whitney Research Group Lineages Page that Joseph WHITNEY who married Abigail TOWNES has the following lineage: John-1 WHITNEY, m.(1) Elinor ----- ..John-2 WHITNEY, m. Ruth REYNOLDS ....Nathaniel-3 WHITNEY, m.(1) Sarah HAGAR ......William-4 WHITNEY, m. Martha PEIRCE ........Samuel-5 WHITNEY, m. Abigail FLETCHER ..........Elisha-6 WHITNEY, m. Eunice SEAVER ............Joseph-7 WHITNEY, m. Abigail TOWNES ..............Josephus-8 WHITNEY, m. Lucy WARD The URL is <http://www.whitneygen.org/families/lineages.html#182>. Jeff Wheatley is a descendant, and at last report he could be contacted at <[email protected]>. Joseph-7 WHITNEY was born 22 Feb 1784 in Westminster, MA, according to the vital records, but 1785 may be correct. See also <http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/ifetch2?/u1/textindices/W/WHITNEY+2001+11172149691+F> <http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/ifetch2?/u1/textindices/W/WHITNEY+2001+11342178469+F> Apparently the family lived for at least a while in Peru, VT, then moved to Lorain Co., Ohio. We seem to be multiply related, since I descend from Nathaniel-3 WHITNEY above, and am cousin to Martha PEIRCE, Abigail FLETCHER, Eunice SEAVER, and Abigail TOWNES! Regards, Robert Mr. Robert L. Ward [email protected] http://www.whitneygen.org/home.html

Yes, but do keep in mind that this is from the same man who said, "I am not a vegetarian because I love animals; I am a vegetarian because I hate plants"!! Cheers, Ron Kyser On Saturday, January 8, 2005, at 04:02 PM, [email protected] wrote: > Dear WRG: > > This cogent observation came in a piece of mail that I received today, > and > since it originated with one of our members, I thought it was worth > passing on. > > 17) "Our bombs are smarter than the average high school student.  At > least > they can find Afghanistan."    --A. Whitney Brown > > Good call! > > Happy Hunting! > > Allan E. Green >

Dear WRG: This cogent observation came in a piece of mail that I received today, and since it originated with one of our members, I thought it was worth passing on. 17) "Our bombs are smarter than the average high school student.  At least they can find Afghanistan."    --A. Whitney Brown Good call! Happy Hunting! Allan E. Green

>X-Symantec-TimeoutProtection: 0 >X-Symantec-TimeoutProtection: 1 >X-Symantec-TimeoutProtection: 2 >Reply-To: <[email protected]> >From: "Wes Fritschle" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Subject: Lee Earl Whitney >Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 15:48:10 -0400 >X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 >Thread-Index: AcQ8Lfex3zXy3nHyQMWYGk5faQMguAAGQxew >X-Junkmail-Status: score=0/70, host=mr01.mrf.mail.rcn.net > >Mr. Ward, > >I've tried sending a note to '[email protected]' several times in an >effort to locate more information on my Whitney line, but my note has never >shown up in the list. I think I'm probably in one of the 'un-connected' >lines. If you have any information on any of the individuals I've listed >I'd love to hear from you. > >Thanks!! > >Wes Fritschle >Gaithersburg, MD > > >Lee Earl Whitney > > >Looking for information on parents and siblings of Lee >Earl Whitney b.8/17/1879 d.1/8/1957. > >Lee Earl was the 7th of 10 children born to William >Elias Whitney b.6/2/1841/NY d.12/9/1919/KS and Almira >Adelaide Allen b.6/3/1846/RI d. 5/15/1933/KS > >Lee Earl Whitney was my great-grandfather and I'll be >happy to share all the information I have on his >descendents.

Hi List: In 1823 Patience Bailey of Greene married John Whitney of Leeds. Patience died in Brunswick, Cumberland in 1887 and is said to be buried in Morse Cemetery in Greene. I have been unable to find information on this cemetery nor a survey of internments. Does anyone have information on this cemetery? We also believe John and Patience had a daughter, name unknown, who would have been 16 or 17 years of age on the 1840 census for Danvers, Essex, Maine. Any information or suggestions on the above will be appreciated. John Wwhitney

Dear WRG: I''ve used this man's website for some time and it is an everygrowing collection of NE Town Records and Histories. I can recommend it. Happy Hunting! Allan E. Green http://www.rays-place.com

----- Original Message ----- From: James Whitney<mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 8:57 AM Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Trouble at server? Or is size important! In reference to the person who could not post to the WRG website but could see others postings; I had the same problem this year and I solved it by unsubscribing and then subscribing. I do not know how I got broken from the list but I did have a new internet address- maybe that had something to do with it. I believe there are many list members who have this problem as I can not believe the Whitneys have lost any interest in genealogy. I was told also that if the server does not match your address as a list member it will not accept your post. This must have been a safety measure to shield list members from all these spam messages. You know the ones- about increasing the size of various body parts. James Whitney Sorry for replying to everyone on these, but James may have the best solution here. I'm pasting in the instructions here for those who've lost them. Michael Whitney WHITNEY-L Topic: A mailing list for the discussion and sharing of information regarding the Whitney surname and variations in any place and at any time. For questions about this list, contact the list administrator at [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> a.. Subscribing. Clicking on one of the shortcut links below should work, but if your browser doesn't understand them, try these manual instructions: to join WHITNEY-L, send mail to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the single word subscribe in the message subject and body. To join WHITNEY-D, do the same thing with [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> a.. Subscribe to WHITNEY-L<mailto:[email protected]?subject=subscribe&body=subscribe> b.. Subscribe to WHITNEY-D (digest)<mailto:[email protected]?subject=subscribe&body=subscribe> b.. Unsubscribing. To leave WHITNEY-L, send mail to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the single word unsubscribe in the message subject and body. To leave WHITNEY-D, do the same thing with [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> a.. Unsubscribe from WHITNEY-L<mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> b.. Unsubscribe from WHITNEY-D (digest)<mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> c.. Archives. You can search the archives for a specific message or browse them, going from one message to another. Some list archives are not available; if there is a link here to an archive but the link doesn't work, it probably just means that no messages have been posted to that list yet. a.. Search the WHITNEY archives<http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/?list=WHITNEY> b.. Browse the WHITNEY archives<http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/WHITNEY/>

----- Original Message ----- From: nancy<mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 1:25 PM Subject: RE: [WHITNEY-L] message bouncing Michael, my messages haven't been getting thru to the list for at least a month. No one seems to know what is going on. How many others are having the problem. Am still receiving tho'. Nancy I'm just getting wind of this. I'll try to get some one at Rootsweb to help me tomorrow. Michael