WRG, Ken Whitney wrote: WRG: Some of our members are working on the puzzle of the Ephraim Whitney who married Polly Crocker in Machias, Maine. Some of that group think that the Ephraim Whitney that I found born in Buxton, Maine in 1789 is a good candidate for this Ephraim. Here's some more food for thought. In Asa P.Whitney's Whitney Genealogy, this Ephraim is married to a Sally Gary. Some may think that she was his first wife. Anyway, in the published Vital Records of Parsonsfield, Maine, I found two entries for the marriage of Ephraim to a Sally Gerry. Both were entries as a marriage by Elder John Buzzell. One gives a date of 24 April 1814, the other 29 April of the same year. I thought this may be of interest to the Polly Crocker research group. I am also curious as to whether there has been any progress in linking this Ephraim to Polly Crocker. Ken Whitney Silver Spring, MD All, An observation from my own research: John Buzzell was one of the early Freewill Baptist ministers, playing a very prominent role in its early successes with founder Benjamin Randall. Apparently the Ephraim Whitney that Ken references belongs to the Freewill Baptist Church organization, perhaps a new avenue for investigation. Opening another possibility for those researching Ephraim Whitney, has anyone followed the Ephraim from the Lisbon, Maine area. I seem vaguely to recall some flow to the Machias region from the Lisbon environs and ironically, back again. For anyone wishing to enjoy a well written history and folk ways of Machias done in the late 1950's, more specifically, the hamlet of Marshfield after being set-off in 1846, read "A Maine Hamlet" by Lura Bean. Born in 1887, Bean writes of the period between the years 1894 - 1904 with in-depth reference to earlier everyday hamlet life and customs. She lived with her grandparents who were born in 1828, and through them gained much knowledge of an earlier day. Since Whitneyville, a former hamlet adjacent to Marshfield (orig. Machias tract) had the same hard working settlers, it may prove a valuable resource on how one lived in this area during this early period. Best Wishes, Larry Tracy Jr. Kennebunkport, Maine

WRG: Awhile back I sent a message about Sarah Crosby, wife of Isaac4 (Nathaniel3, Benjamin2, John1) Whitney of York and Gorham, Maine. The following is an update of that information. The Dover, Strafford Co., New Hampshire Vital Records, 1686-1850, contain the following Crosbee entries: Page 8: John Crosbee, s. of Jonathan by his wife Hannah, b. 3 Oct 1721 Sarah Crosbee, dau of Jonathan by wife Hannah, b. 18 January 1723/4 Page 135: Sarah, dau of Dr. Jonathan Crosbee baptized 2 Feb 1724 by Rev. Jonathan Cushing Page 140: Daniel and Elizabeth, child of Dr. Jonathan Crosbee baptized by Rev. Jonathan Cushing 4 July 1731 (note: Daniel and Elizabeth must be children by Dr. Jonathan's second wife, Mary Dill; KLW) Early Marriage Returns of Strafford Co., New Hampshire, 1630-1850 by Robert S. Canney Crosbee, Dr. Jonathan m. 1} near 1718 Hannah Wycom m. 2} Oct 23, 1729 at York, Mary Dill of York, b. Oct 18, 1710, dau of John Vital Records of Rowley, MA to 1849 Crosby (Crosbe, Crosbee, Crosbye), Anthony, s. of Thomas of Hampton, bp Nov 20, 1687 John, s. of Jonathan, bp. Oct 8, 1721 Elizabeth, d. of Nathaniel and Elizabeth, Aug. 7, 1697 Jonathan, s. of Anthony and Prudence, 26: 11m: 1663 Jonathan, s. of Anthony and Prudence, 26: 8m: 1665 Jonathan, s. of Nathaniel and Elizabeth, Sept 11, 1694 Nathaniel, s. of Anthony and Prudence, 5: 12m: 1666 Nathaniel, s. of Mrs._____, bp. July 18, 1669 Nathaniel, s. of Nathaniel, bp. Aug 27, 1699 Thomas, s. Anthony and Prudence, March 4, 1660 (Note: Both John and Sarah were born in Dover, but Sarah was baptized there, and John was baptized in Rowley 5 days after birth KLW) Jonathan (of Oyster River, int.) and Hannah Wycom m. 5 Aug 1718 The History of York, Maine, Vol. II; C.E. Banks Talking about physicians in old York, Maine: "The next one to come here was Dr. Jonathan Crosby, son of Dr. Anthony and Prudence (Wade) Crosby of Rowley, MA, born 1665, but when he settled here is not definitely known. He probably married here Mary, daughter of John Dill of this town, and some time after 1732 removed to Dover, where he died. His widow returned to York." Simon Crosby the Emigrant, Eleanor Davis Crosby Children of Dr. Anthony and Prudence (Wade) Crosby, born in Rowley, Mass.: 3. Jonathan, b. 28 Oct 1665, removed to York, Maine. Further history untraced. Problem: Please note that the original information I sent was from The American Ancestry of Imogene Whitney, copied by Mrs. Lendall M. Thomas. The DAR citation for this is: GRC 1986 S2 V55.2. In this ancestry, Dr. Jonathan is the son of Nathaniel and Elizabeth, not Anthony and Prudence. The Imogene Whitney ancestry is referenced, but I neglected to photocopy the references. When I returned to photocopy them, the book was missing from the shelves. Therefore the references are still missing. It does appear that Imogene got Jonthan's ancestry wrong, but until the references appear, I can't say that for sure.Everthing else looks like she got it right. I hope you find this helpful. Ken Whitney Silver Spring, MD

WRG: Some of our members are working on the puzzle of the Ephraim Whitney who married Polly Crocker in Machias, Maine. Some of that group think that the Ephraim Whitney that I found born in Buxton, Maine in 1789 is a good candidate for this Ephraim. Here's some more food for thought. In Asa P.Whitney's Whitney Genealogy, this Ephraim is married to a Sally Gary. Some may think that she was his first wife. Anyway, in the published Vital Records of Parsonsfield, Maine, I found two entries for the marriage of Ephraim to a Sally Gerry. Both were entries as a marriage by Elder John Buzzell. One gives a date of 24 April 1814, the other 29 April of the same year. I thought this may be of interest to the Polly Crocker research group. I am also curious as to wheter thaere has been any progress in linking this Ephraim to Polly Crocker. Ken Whitney Silver Spring, MD

Since I have cabin fever with ALL the snow I was on ebay in the wee hours. I typed WHITNEY in under search and found a lot of postcard valentines for sale with the description of WHITNEY. They seem to be from the early 1900's. I am curious if that is the manufacter name or style. Does anyone know? FYI-one of the ebay listing numbers is: 6147089308, but there are more. Thanks, Jinny Myers-Parks Youngstown, NY

I have a feeling I will get a lot of these if I don't publicly apologize. Mea maxima culpa. Allan E. Green wrote: Miles: Just so you know, Whitney Keen is female. A lovely lady, I met her at the 2004 Reunion. ________________________________________________________________ Sent via the WebMail system at mail.nexet.net

I am looking for anyone that may be researching Homer Whitney born about 1860. He had two children Harry Whitney born about 1889 and Lydia, born about 1901. This family was in Santa Barbara in 1920. I will be glad to share anything I have. Janet Whitney Duffield --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search presents - Jib Jab's 'Second Term'

Whitney Keen makes some very good points. He included this comment: …there were periodic famines in the country due to inadequate distribution channels for food, and I would suspect more accidents (although street accidents in cities were notorious). Indeed, agriculture remains one of the most dangerous occupations in the world with a high rate of fatal accidents. The observation about street accidents put me in mind of something I read when I lived in Oakland, Calif., years ago. That city was settled rather late, especially after the civil war. I believe that it was by the mid-1870s, though, that they had already built a streetcar system on Broadway in Oakland. One day there was terribly streetcar accident involving at least a dozen badly injured people. Suddenly it dawned on the citizenry that they had neglected to build any hospitals! One was founded shortly thereafter, almost needless to say, but on a curious note, the woman who spearheaded the building effort believed in homeopathy, so that that was the orientation of the city’s first hospital. Miles Fowler ________________________________________________________________ Sent via the WebMail system at mail.nexet.net

They also had much better nutrition if they lived in the country and grew their own food. According to some studies of food nutrition, the pumped up, fast grown vegetables we eat today have only 1/5 the nutrition that they had 50 years ago. Having no processed food was also a bonus, because they got no preservatives, hormones, artificial flavours and chemicals. The proof was that several Whitneys did indeed live to a ripe old age. Bill W. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Miles Fowler" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 11:05 AM Subject: [WHITNEY-L] longevity and health > Which was dirtier, the 17th or 19th century? > > Depends on how you look at it. Both had horse and ox pollution but the 19th had more coal dust in the air. On the other hand, the average workingman was more likely to own an extra pair of pants in the 19th century than earlier, thanks in large part to the industrial revolution in textiles (cheaper clothing). Being able to change clothes more often led to washing them more often, and that alone improved hygiene almost more than any deliberately taken public health measures. > > Miles Fowler > > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > Sent via the WebMail system at mail.nexet.net > > > > > >

It depends also on where you lived. Cities were less healthy than the country, the air and water in the country tended to be cleaner, diseases that spread by proximity were less likely to run rampant through an entire village than a city, and social ills like gin addiction and street crime were less. However, there were periodic famines in the country due to inadequate distribution channels for food, and I would suspect more accidents (although street accidents in cities were notorious). In the Boston area in the mid to late 17c, for example, life was quite healthy and people who survived childbearing and childbirth tended to live fairly long. Farmers were able to raise their own food and there was adequate land for the taking and clearing. In europe life was not as healthy as in the new world at that time. Whitney Keen Miles Fowler wrote: > Which was dirtier, the 17th or 19th century? > > Depends on how you look at it. Both had horse and ox pollution but the 19th had more coal dust in the air. On the other hand, the average workingman was more likely to own an extra pair of pants in the 19th century than earlier, thanks in large part to the industrial revolution in textiles (cheaper clothing). Being able to change clothes more often led to washing them more often, and that alone improved hygiene almost more than any deliberately taken public health measures. > > Miles Fowler > > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > Sent via the WebMail system at mail.nexet.net > > > > >

Which was dirtier, the 17th or 19th century? Depends on how you look at it. Both had horse and ox pollution but the 19th had more coal dust in the air. On the other hand, the average workingman was more likely to own an extra pair of pants in the 19th century than earlier, thanks in large part to the industrial revolution in textiles (cheaper clothing). Being able to change clothes more often led to washing them more often, and that alone improved hygiene almost more than any deliberately taken public health measures. Miles Fowler ________________________________________________________________ Sent via the WebMail system at mail.nexet.net

One factor not mentioned in longevity was the Industrial Revolution. In two other family lines, grandfathers and great-grandfathers died in road construction accidents or in mining accidents. In some ways the Nineteenth Century was dirtier and far more dangerous than the Twentieth or the Seventeenth Century. Of course, childbirth was always dangerous until doctors finally learned to wash their hands and even after that. I appreciate the sense of life in other times that this list gives. Eugenia Whitney Harrison ----- Original Message ----- From: "Miles Fowler" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 4:10 PM Subject: Longevity > Many of us Whitney descendants seem to have bragging rights regarding > long-lived ancestors. I cannot resist jumping in. Looking at my data, I > realize that along many lines I have birth years without the year of > death. Hmm, there's a project for the new year. > Where I do have data on life spans, there are some impressive ones. Jabez > Whitney (November 1767 - April 1849) lived to be 81. His second wife Sally > lived to be about 59. Their son William was 72 when he died. His wife, a > Peabody, lived to be 93. Their daughter Flora died at age 82. Her ten > children, born between 1880 and 1903, lived to be the following ages: 1) > 35; 2) 79; 3) 79; 4) 75; 5) 89; 6) 89; 7) 82; 8) 1; 9) 79; 10) 94. The > tenth child was my grandmother. Her daughter, my mother, died at age 67, > but her brother and only sibling is alive and well at 70. > Of course, those born in the 1880s or later are a real watershed > generation as far as longevity is concerned: if they lived past World War > I, very often they lived well past any life-expectancy they would have > been given by the contemporary experts at their births because of the > advances in sanitation and medicine made during the twentieth century. In > other words, the population of octogenarians, nonagenarians, et cetera, > increased dramatically in the late twentieth century, and Flora's children > were in that generation. > > Miles Fowler > > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > Sent via the WebMail system at mail.nexet.net > > > > > > ______________________________

Thanks Vic. Whitney Keen pointed this out to me as well. And it certainly makes sense. By the way, I love the "recycled" line. Gave me a much needed early morning laugh. Lanie -------Original Message------- From: Vic Walker Date: 01/17/05 22:18:59 To: [email protected] Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Re: WHITNEY-D Digest V05 #10 Lanie, a comment regarding those particular statistics. I'm told that a large part of the short life span of the time was attributable to truly horrendous infant mortality. If you managed to live past childhood, you had a fairly good shot at living to an old age. For what it's worth. Vic Walker (another Whitney, 'way back) -- **************************************************************************** Vic Walker R.Ph., B.C.P.P. Internet Address(es): [email protected] or [email protected] Printed with 100% recycled electrons. Lanie wrote: Because I, too, have longevity in both my mother's and father's lines, I've found this discussion quite interesting. Tonight, I decided to do some research on life expectancy to put the longevity" into more of a perspective. Here's what I found: In the year 1700, life expectancy in America was 35 years. By the mid-1800s, it was 40 years. By 1900, it was 47 years and less than 3% lived longer than 65 years. Now, looking at antecedents on both sides who lived into their 80s and 90s in the 1600s thru the 1900s takes on a whole new meaning! Lanie

The prize could be a pint of Guinness! from, Carolyn Whitney Branagan PS. I couldn't resist that. Though I'm as Yankee as they come, I married an Irishman. ----- Original Message ----- From: "R R Kyser" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 3:05 AM Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Re: Longevity > This discussion is making me thirsty for Guinness. > > So, can anyone name a Whitney (i.e., with that name) who lived longer than > this Charles Leon? > > And can anyone name a Whitney descendent (of any surname) who lived longer > than Jessie Burdick Conrow, of Otsego Co., NY, who died at 108 yrs., 4 > mos. and 7 days? (And in three centuries as well. I mentioned her in a > November post about her noted grandson, singer Jerry Jeff Walker.) > > If not, I say these two should get a prize of sorts. > > Cheers, > Ron Kyser > > PS-- are these two fine Fowler gentlemen related through that clan as > well, or is it just a coincidence? > > > > > On Tuesday, January 18, 2005, at 12:00 AM, Maurice F Whitney wrote: > >> Just to add my two cents worth, my grandfather Dale Derrington Whitney >> died just three month short of 100. His lineage is Charles Fremont, >> Charles, Timothy Holt, Richard, Israel, Ebenezer, Richard, John and >> Elinor. >> >> Maurice Fowler Whitney 67 still kicking >> Dale Dyment Whitney 90 >> Dale Derrington Whitney 99 >> Charles Leon Whitney 102 Brother of Dale >> Jay Wallace Whitney 101 Brother of Dale >> Ralph Eugene Whitney 87 Brother of Dale >> Horace Glen Whitney 80+ Brother of Dale >> Charles Fremont Whitney 85 >> Charles Whitney 64 killed by a Tornado in Kansas >> Timothy Holt Whitney 82 >> >> Maurice Fowler Whitney >> Sherwood Arkansas >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Miles Fowler" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 3:10 PM >> Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Longevity >> >> >>> Many of us Whitney descendants seem to have bragging rights regarding >>> long-lived ancestors. I cannot resist jumping in. Looking at my data, I >>> realize that along many lines I have birth years without the year of >>> death. Hmm, there's a project for the new year. >>> Where I do have data on life spans, there are some impressive ones. >>> Jabez Whitney (November 1767 - April 1849) lived to be 81. His second >>> wife Sally lived to be about 59. Their son William was 72 when he died. >>> His wife, a Peabody, lived to be 93. Their daughter Flora died at age >>> 82. Her ten children, born between 1880 and 1903, lived to be the >>> following ages: 1) 35; 2) 79; 3) 79; 4) 75; 5) 89; 6) 89; 7) 82; 8) 1; >>> 9) 79; 10) 94. The tenth child was my grandmother. Her daughter, my >>> mother, died at age 67, but her brother and only sibling is alive and >>> well at 70. >>> Of course, those born in the 1880s or later are a real watershed >>> generation as far as longevity is concerned: if they lived past World >>> War I, very often they lived well past any life-expectancy they would >>> have been given by the contemporary experts at their births because of >>> the advances in sanitation and medicine made during the twentieth >>> century. In other words, the population of octogenarians, nonagenarians, >>> et cetera, increased dramatically in the late twentieth century, and >>> Flora's children were in that generation. >>> >>> Miles Fowler >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ________________________________________________________________ >>> Sent via the WebMail system at mail.nexet.net >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > >

This discussion is making me thirsty for Guinness. So, can anyone name a Whitney (i.e., with that name) who lived longer than this Charles Leon? And can anyone name a Whitney descendent (of any surname) who lived longer than Jessie Burdick Conrow, of Otsego Co., NY, who died at 108 yrs., 4 mos. and 7 days? (And in three centuries as well. I mentioned her in a November post about her noted grandson, singer Jerry Jeff Walker.) If not, I say these two should get a prize of sorts. Cheers, Ron Kyser PS-- are these two fine Fowler gentlemen related through that clan as well, or is it just a coincidence? On Tuesday, January 18, 2005, at 12:00 AM, Maurice F Whitney wrote: > Just to add my two cents worth, my grandfather Dale Derrington Whitney > died just three month short of 100. His lineage is Charles Fremont, > Charles, Timothy Holt, Richard, Israel, Ebenezer, Richard, John and > Elinor. > > Maurice Fowler Whitney 67 still kicking > Dale Dyment Whitney 90 > Dale Derrington Whitney 99 > Charles Leon Whitney 102 Brother of Dale > Jay Wallace Whitney 101 Brother of Dale > Ralph Eugene Whitney 87 Brother of Dale > Horace Glen Whitney 80+ Brother of Dale > Charles Fremont Whitney 85 > Charles Whitney 64 killed by a Tornado in Kansas > Timothy Holt Whitney 82 > > Maurice Fowler Whitney > Sherwood Arkansas > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Miles Fowler" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 3:10 PM > Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Longevity > > >> Many of us Whitney descendants seem to have bragging rights regarding >> long-lived ancestors. I cannot resist jumping in. Looking at my data, >> I realize that along many lines I have birth years without the year of >> death. Hmm, there's a project for the new year. >> Where I do have data on life spans, there are some impressive ones. >> Jabez Whitney (November 1767 - April 1849) lived to be 81. His second >> wife Sally lived to be about 59. Their son William was 72 when he >> died. His wife, a Peabody, lived to be 93. Their daughter Flora died >> at age 82. Her ten children, born between 1880 and 1903, lived to be >> the following ages: 1) 35; 2) 79; 3) 79; 4) 75; 5) 89; 6) 89; 7) 82; >> 8) 1; 9) 79; 10) 94. The tenth child was my grandmother. Her daughter, >> my mother, died at age 67, but her brother and only sibling is alive >> and well at 70. >> Of course, those born in the 1880s or later are a real watershed >> generation as far as longevity is concerned: if they lived past World >> War I, very often they lived well past any life-expectancy they would >> have been given by the contemporary experts at their births because of >> the advances in sanitation and medicine made during the twentieth >> century. In other words, the population of octogenarians, >> nonagenarians, et cetera, increased dramatically in the late twentieth >> century, and Flora's children were in that generation. >> >> Miles Fowler >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________________________________________ >> Sent via the WebMail system at mail.nexet.net >> >> >> >> >> > >

Just to add my two cents worth, my grandfather Dale Derrington Whitney died just three month short of 100. His lineage is Charles Fremont, Charles, Timothy Holt, Richard, Israel, Ebenezer, Richard, John and Elinor. Maurice Fowler Whitney 67 still kicking Dale Dyment Whitney 90 Dale Derrington Whitney 99 Charles Leon Whitney 102 Brother of Dale Jay Wallace Whitney 101 Brother of Dale Ralph Eugene Whitney 87 Brother of Dale Horace Glen Whitney 80+ Brother of Dale Charles Fremont Whitney 85 Charles Whitney 64 killed by a Tornado in Kansas Timothy Holt Whitney 82 Maurice Fowler Whitney Sherwood Arkansas ----- Original Message ----- From: "Miles Fowler" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 3:10 PM Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Longevity > Many of us Whitney descendants seem to have bragging rights regarding > long-lived ancestors. I cannot resist jumping in. Looking at my data, I > realize that along many lines I have birth years without the year of > death. Hmm, there's a project for the new year. > Where I do have data on life spans, there are some impressive ones. Jabez > Whitney (November 1767 - April 1849) lived to be 81. His second wife Sally > lived to be about 59. Their son William was 72 when he died. His wife, a > Peabody, lived to be 93. Their daughter Flora died at age 82. Her ten > children, born between 1880 and 1903, lived to be the following ages: 1) > 35; 2) 79; 3) 79; 4) 75; 5) 89; 6) 89; 7) 82; 8) 1; 9) 79; 10) 94. The > tenth child was my grandmother. Her daughter, my mother, died at age 67, > but her brother and only sibling is alive and well at 70. > Of course, those born in the 1880s or later are a real watershed > generation as far as longevity is concerned: if they lived past World War > I, very often they lived well past any life-expectancy they would have > been given by the contemporary experts at their births because of the > advances in sanitation and medicine made during the twentieth century. In > other words, the population of octogenarians, nonagenarians, et cetera, > increased dramatically in the late twentieth century, and Flora's children > were in that generation. > > Miles Fowler > > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > Sent via the WebMail system at mail.nexet.net > > > > > >

Lanie, a comment regarding those particular statistics. I'm told that a large part of the short life span of the time was attributable to truly horrendous infant mortality. If you managed to live past childhood, you had a fairly good shot at living to an old age. For what it's worth. Vic Walker (another Whitney, 'way back) -- **************************************************************************** Vic Walker R.Ph., B.C.P.P. Internet Address(es): [email protected] or [email protected] Printed with 100% recycled electrons. Lanie wrote: Because I, too, have longevity in both my mother's and father's lines, I've found this discussion quite interesting. Tonight, I decided to do some research on life expectancy to put the longevity" into more of a perspective. Here's what I found: In the year 1700, life expectancy in America was 35 years. By the mid-1800s, it was 40 years. By 1900, it was 47 years and less than 3% lived longer than 65 years. Now, looking at antecedents on both sides who lived into their 80s and 90s in the 1600s thru the 1900s takes on a whole new meaning! Lanie

List: After reading the list of long living family members, I just had to review my own family. The following all bear the Whitney surname. I am age 69 with two siblings in their late sixties Father b.1913 47 years, died of cancer Gfather b.1873 45 years, heart attack. Two brothers lived to be 78 and 98 1st GGF b.1845 85 years 2nd GGF b. 1799 63 years: Died young. Was hanged as Union spy in 1862 near St. Augustine, Florida 3rd GGF b. 1763 53 years 4th GGF b. 1740 80 years 5th GGF b. 1707 88 years 6th GGF b. 1678 61+ years Exact date not known 7th GGF b. 1643 80 years Thanks to all for sharing, John Whitney

Many of us Whitney descendants seem to have bragging rights regarding long-lived ancestors. I cannot resist jumping in. Looking at my data, I realize that along many lines I have birth years without the year of death. Hmm, there's a project for the new year. Where I do have data on life spans, there are some impressive ones. Jabez Whitney (November 1767 - April 1849) lived to be 81. His second wife Sally lived to be about 59. Their son William was 72 when he died. His wife, a Peabody, lived to be 93. Their daughter Flora died at age 82. Her ten children, born between 1880 and 1903, lived to be the following ages: 1) 35; 2) 79; 3) 79; 4) 75; 5) 89; 6) 89; 7) 82; 8) 1; 9) 79; 10) 94. The tenth child was my grandmother. Her daughter, my mother, died at age 67, but her brother and only sibling is alive and well at 70. Of course, those born in the 1880s or later are a real watershed generation as far as longevity is concerned: if they lived past World War I, very often they lived well past any life-expectancy they would have been given by the contemporary experts at their births because of the advances in sanitation and medicine made during the twentieth century. In other words, the population of octogenarians, nonagenarians, et cetera, increased dramatically in the late twentieth century, and Flora's children were in that generation. Miles Fowler ________________________________________________________________ Sent via the WebMail system at mail.nexet.net

Because I, too, have longevity in both my mother's and father's lines, I've found this discussion quite interesting. Tonight, I decided to do some research on life expectancy to put the longevity" into more of a perspective. Here's what I found: In the year 1700, life expectancy in America was 35 years. By the mid-1800s, it was 40 years. By 1900, it was 47 years and less than 3% lived longer than 65 years. Now, looking at antecedents on both sides who lived into their 80s and 90s in the 1600s thru the 1900s takes on a whole new meaning! Lanie -------Original Message------- From: Jo Hogle Date: 01/16/05 21:27:18 To: [email protected] Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Longevity Longevity seems to run in the Whitney line. My grandmother, Celia Setzler Hastings lived to the age of 97, sharp as a tack until the last year or 2 when her short term memory failed slightly. Her three siblings all lived into their 80s. Their mother Julia Ardelle Whitney Setzler passed on at the age of 70. Henry Payson Whitney (Julia's father) was 76; his father, John Whitney Jr.,was only 56 and I am have yet to determine the cause of his young death. However his father, John Whitney, was 85 when he died in 1834. John's father was Elijah Whitney who reached 76 years. My mother is 81 and healthier than I am. Two of her 3 siblings died after the age of 85, she has one living sister who turns 86 in just a few days. It is interesting to look at those statistics, and I am fortunate that longevity seems to run in the lines of all 4 of my grandparents. But that Whitney stock, we are pretty sturdy folks. Jo Hogle

To the Whitney-List: I had to change to a different email to send to the List as my excite.com and walla.com weren't going thru although I was still receiving some email from Whitneys. Anyway, here I am-formerly known as nwhitney48 and now am at [email protected] Does anyone on the list have connections to: George W. Whitney b.1849-Ohio and Harriet Osburn Whitney b.1851 Ohio (children:Anna j, William S., Mary, Harry E., Cladie, Minnie, and Samuel G-b. Illinois). Samuel married (Emma?) and their children are:Bernice, Loraine, and Francis G. b. Minnesota. Samuel was an independent auto mechanic in St. Paul(1930) which ties into my missing grandfather, Harry E. Whitney, b. 1879 and who I have been searching for so long. He briefly had a Cadillac repair shop in Boise, ID, but have found nothing about him after 1923. Samuel's son, Francis G., I believe is living in Minnesota still although help from him was not forthcoming. Does anyone have access to Wyoming or Minnesota WW1 Draft Registrations to look up Harry E. Whitney. I think he was in Sheridan, Wyoming in 1920 and earlier at least for a while. Sorry this is so long but have tried to send email for several months to the List and couldn't get through. Nancy