UNSUBSCRIBE - This is my 2nd request to you to unsubscribe me from the Whitney mailing list

Dear Sir or Madam: Evidently you didn't keep the notice that you got when you subscribed. Address your e-mail message to [email protected] In the body of the message put only the word unsubscribe I'm sorry we couldn't assist you in your genealogical research. Allan E. Green

Thanks to James Whitney and Bev Hanner. As I was telling Bev, I am beginning to suspect that Mr. Hayward (I don't have his first name) was overseas from 1942-1945 and, so, not in the directories for those years. Since I know his wife's name was Annie (probably the owner's name at 49 Oxford St. being Annie Sullivan is a coincidence), I had hoped to find out his first name by them being listed as "*Something* Hayward, wife Annie." Unfortunately, that doesn't work. Maybe they were listed together somewhere else before or after the war(?). ________________________________________________________________ Sent via the WebMail system at mail.nexet.net

The following is quoted from the 2/13/2005 New York Sunday Times - Sunday Styles, Weddings/Celebrations section: "Meredith Ann Whitney, a stock analyst, and John Charles Layfield, a professional wrestler, were married last evening at the Wyndham Casa Marina in Key West, Fla. The Rev. Lavelle Layfield, a minister of the Church of Christ and the father of the bridegroom, officiated. The bride, 35, will continue to use her name professionally. She is an executive director of CIBC World Markets, part of the Canadian Imperial Bank of Canada, and works in New York, where she analyzes the stocks of financial institutions. She appears regularly on "Cavuto on Business," a Fox News program. She graduated with honors from Brown. She is a daughter of Barbara Gentry of Key West and Richard P. Whitney of Annapolis, Md., and a stepdaughter of Chisholm Gentry. The bride's mother retired as an executive recruiter in Washington. Her stepfather, also retired, was a freelance writer. " The complete article can be viewed at http://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/13/fashion/weddings/13whit.html?oref=login To see this you must register as an online subscriber but it is free.

I just love Whitney dialogue! About 2 years ago, maybe longer we had quite a thing going about Worcester and I do know how to spell it. I can also pronounce it. (However this computer has a gremlin in it and lots of extra letters show up in things I write. Anyhow that was an on going thing for some time and was very enjoyable. Anyone who missed it could see it in the archives I'm sure. I started it I think because I was watching PBR on TV and it was at Worcester and one of the riders was a young man named Cody Whitney. Bull riding is a normal thing out here in Wyoming and I was just surprised to see it in Mass. Anyhow over a period of time I have found all these wonderful Whitney things from people on this site. As I said apples, wagons etc. etc. I have kept them all and plan to bind them into a book for my children. Some of them of course go back many years and I guess I was pleased to see the Valentines were in 1940's. Also I received a Whitney Christmas Wreath again this year so the Whitney entrepreneurs just go on and on. Thanks for your comments and also for being my Valentine! Rose Zella On Feb 12, 2005, at 10:36 AM, Miles Fowler wrote: > That is spelled "Worcester" and is "properly" pronounced "Woo-stuh" > ("oo" as in "woof" NOT as in "Wooster, Ohio"). I grew up in Worcester, > and a half-sister (also a Whitney descendant) lives there. My spouse > always mispronounces Worcester, and I think that is because she > doesn't get it, although I sometimes wonder if she is just needling > me. > > Rose Zella wrote: > Apples to Valentines---- > I just watched a blurp on TV about Whitney Valentines > manufactured in Worchester, Mass. in the 1940's. > What a versatile family. > Rose Zella > Oh yes--Would you Be My Valentine? > > Certainly! > While we are on the subject of Worcester in the 1940s, I happen to be > trying to locate a man named Hayward (or Haywood?) who lived at 49 > Oxford Street in Worcester, Mass. circa 1945. Does anyone have access > to old Criss Cross-type directories? Could you tell me what if > anything is available on that address back in the 1940s? > > I think the closest place to me where I could find old city > directories for Massachusetts is the Library of Congress, but I rarely > get to D.C. > > Miles Fowler > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > Sent via the WebMail system at mail.nexet.net > > > > > >

Dear WRG, I live about 20 miles from Worcestor. I have lived in Mass. most of my life and I have what is called a Boston accent. When I say Worcestor it sounds like the card game Whist with an a on the end. Whista. My friend who grew up in New York says Woosta. In Mass. we do not pronounce the 'r' in our everyday conversations. I lived in Oklahoma for about a year and a half one time.The people in Oklahoma could not understand me when I talked. I could not understand them either. They have a long southern drawl when they talk. Maureen

Worchester,Mass. City Directory-1942 49 Oxford St.-Lodging house owned and operated by Annie A. Sullivan-widow of Pierce J. Sullivan. Building is valued at $5500 size- 4630 sq. ft. and appraised at $1200. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Miles Fowler" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2005 12:36 PM Subject: [WHITNEY-L] And cotton ginning! > That is spelled "Worcester" and is "properly" pronounced "Woo-stuh" ("oo" as in "woof" NOT as in "Wooster, Ohio"). I grew up in Worcester, and a half-sister (also a Whitney descendant) lives there. My spouse always mispronounces Worcester, and I think that is because she doesn't get it, although I sometimes wonder if she is just needling me. > > Rose Zella wrote: > Apples to Valentines---- > I just watched a blurp on TV about Whitney Valentines > manufactured in Worchester, Mass. in the 1940's. > What a versatile family. > Rose Zella > Oh yes--Would you Be My Valentine? > > Certainly! > While we are on the subject of Worcester in the 1940s, I happen to be trying to locate a man named Hayward (or Haywood?) who lived at 49 Oxford Street in Worcester, Mass. circa 1945. Does anyone have access to old Criss Cross-type directories? Could you tell me what if anything is available on that address back in the 1940s? > > I think the closest place to me where I could find old city directories for Massachusetts is the Library of Congress, but I rarely get to D.C. > > Miles Fowler > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > Sent via the WebMail system at mail.nexet.net > > > > >

I was recently looking at the Whitney Web-Site http://www.whitneygen.org/ and I can offer some correct dates for Andrew William Rainsford and Mary Ann Clarke if any one is interested. I did attempt to send a e-mail to the contact person noted [email protected], however that address bounced. Regards Jay

That is spelled "Worcester" and is "properly" pronounced "Woo-stuh" ("oo" as in "woof" NOT as in "Wooster, Ohio"). I grew up in Worcester, and a half-sister (also a Whitney descendant) lives there. My spouse always mispronounces Worcester, and I think that is because she doesn't get it, although I sometimes wonder if she is just needling me. Rose Zella wrote: Apples to Valentines---- I just watched a blurp on TV about Whitney Valentines manufactured in Worchester, Mass. in the 1940's. What a versatile family. Rose Zella Oh yes--Would you Be My Valentine? Certainly! While we are on the subject of Worcester in the 1940s, I happen to be trying to locate a man named Hayward (or Haywood?) who lived at 49 Oxford Street in Worcester, Mass. circa 1945. Does anyone have access to old Criss Cross-type directories? Could you tell me what if anything is available on that address back in the 1940s? I think the closest place to me where I could find old city directories for Massachusetts is the Library of Congress, but I rarely get to D.C. Miles Fowler ________________________________________________________________ Sent via the WebMail system at mail.nexet.net

Dear Mary: I'm sorry, until I happened to come upon the two articles that I cited while searching Whitneys in western MA for someone else, I had no prior knowledge of or record for any of the people whose names I found. What I posted to the list is absolutely all I know about these folks, as the articles were about two other families into which a Whitney married. Sorry. Allan E. Green

Dear WRG: While searching for something else tonight, I ran across the following. Rather than take the time to hunt, I'm (re?) publishing it here. J. M. Crafts' History of Whatley (Hampden Co), MA, 1661 - 1899. page 430 (#46). SOLOMON COOK, son of Joel K. (#20), b. at Had 13 Sept 1815, d. at Leoni, Mich. 3 Feb 1886, ae 71 years, m. 4 Mar 1838, Aurelia Esther, dau. of David and Nancy (Moore) Whitney of Avon, NY, b 4 Oct 1818, rem. to Hanover, Mich. abt 1848. He was in trade many years and owned a large farm; held many public offices. A pleasant man. Five ch.: Martha A., Maria A., Helen A., Myron II(?), Oscar A., all m. J. M. Crafts' History of Whatley (Hampden Co), MA, 1661 - 1899. page 451 (#29). Dexter Dickinson, son of Gideon (#21) born at Wh. 12 June 1788, d 14 Mar 1868, ae 80 yrs., m. Dency, dau. of Jonathan Whitney of Con [probably Conway - AEG], (born?) 6 Aug 1796, d. 23 Aug 1851, res. on the old homestead in Wh. A farmer. Three ch.: Lucy W. b. 30 Nov 1818, m. Charles B. Stearns of (appears to be Con?); Jonathan W., b. 23 Mar 1823, (#49); Lorenzo, b. 14 Mar 1827, d. 19 July 1850. I hope this is useful to someone. Happy Hunting! Allan E. Green

Apples to Valentines---- I just watched a blurp on TV about Whitney Valentines manufactured in Worchester, Mass. in the 1940's. What a versatile family. Rose Zella Oh yes--Would you Be My Valentine?

I must certainly agree, I cannot thank you enough for helping me find my missing ancestors. My grandma was so excited when I showed her this new information on her grandfather and his family. I am truely grateful to you for taking the time out to search the censuses. It really does mean a lot and I hope that I can report back with new information I have found regarding my (our) families! Cristina --- [email protected] wrote: > Tim and WRG: > > I have to plug in a huge BRAVO for Tim on this find. > In the best tradition > of the WRG, he has gone the extra mile to help a new > member. It's this kind of > interaction that makes me so proud of being a part > of the WRG. > > Allan E. Green > > ===== __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? All your favorites on one personal page � Try My Yahoo! http://my.yahoo.com

I am looking for Lewis FULLER b abt. 1837 Rushford, Pa He m Electa KIBBE In Harrison Valley, Pa. They had a daughter Mary Rosella (Jane) FULLER b abt Feb. 1868 in Bingham, Pa. She m Charles Mentle WHITNEY. If anyone has any info on this family I surely would appreciate it...Mary

Additional follow up: Two years ago there was a post on the Whitney Family Genealogy Forum at genealogy.com by Patricia Dakin as follows: Seeking information on WILLIAM WHITNEY who married AZELIE GAUTREAUX, 9 July 1847, Terrebonne Parish, LA. Their dau. Eliska Louisiana Whitney married Antoine Pierre Felix Falgout, July 22, 1869, Lockport, Lafource Parish, LA. Have no information on WILLIAM WHITNEY, his parents, etc. Thank you. [email protected] Christina responded, asking if her Thomas Whitney may have been related. Patricia replied as follows: I do not have a lot of information on the Whitney family. Your Whitneys are probably related to my husband's group. William Whiney, b. 1823, mar. Azelie Eulalie Gautreaux, in Houma, Terrebonne Parish, LA. Their children were: Washington Wm. Whitney, b. May 19, 1848 Jean Williams Whitney, b. Mary 1849 Marie Cristine (Mary Kit) Whitney, b. Feb. 23, 1851 Eliska Louisiana Whitney, b Feb. 3, 1852 (my husband's gr-grandmother) Henri Whitney - b. Jan. 3, 1854 John Randolph Whitney - b. July 23, 1854 Edouard Leveinston Whitney - b. July 24, 1857 Elizabeth Ann Whitney - b. June 27, 1858 There could be some errors in the above. I will keep your query and if I find some connection, I will get back in touch with you. So it now appears that Christina and Patricia were on the right track, but were just missing a link or two. I would suggest that they contact each other again to share information. Patricia's information adds additional details, but who knows - she may have found William Whitney's parents in the last two years. Good luck! Tim Doyle -----Original Message----- From: Tim Doyle [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 7:32 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [WHITNEY-L] Whitneys in Louisiana Cristina: I did a little sleuthing on the online census records at ancestry.com and here's what I was able to find: I found your family on the 1910 census: 1910 U.S. Census, ED 104, 2nd Precinct, Houma, Terrebonne Parish, Louisiana, p. 218 515 515 Whitney Thos Head M W 26 M 6 Louisiana Louisiana Louisiana RR Brakeman -- Laurentine Wife F W 24 M 6 4 4 Louisiana Louisiana Louisiana -- Alvin Son M W 4 S Louisiana Louisiana Louisiana -- Thelma Dau F W 3 S Louisiana Louisiana Louisiana -- not named Son M W XX - Louisiana Louisiana Louisiana Bergeron Florence SinLaw F W 20 S Louisiana Louisiana Louisiana Whitney Josephine Mother F W 50 W 8 6 Louisiana Louisiana Louisiana Because the father's name and occupation matches, the mother's name matches, Alvin's name matches, and the sister in law with the last name of Bergeron matches, I feel confident that this is your family. This record gave us a crucial tidbit of information - that Thomas's mother was named Josephine. We also know that there was another daughter named Thelma that you had not known about before. I then used this information to search ten years earlier, in the 1900 census, and was able to locate them as follows: 1900 U.S. Census, ED 70, Houma, Terrebonne Parish, Louisiana, p. 101 517 537 Whitney Josephine Head W F May 1860 40 M 21 7 5 Louisiana Louisiana Louisiana Wash Woman -- Tommie Son W M Dec 1889 18 S Louisiana Louisiana Louisiana Boiler Maker -- Eddie Son W M Feb 1887 13 S Louisiana Louisiana Louisiana Day Laborer As you can see, your Thomas was named Tommie in the census, and would have been difficult to find had we not known his mother was Josephine. We also now know that Thomas had a brother named Eddie. There seems to be some confusion about Thomas' birthyear as things don't seem to add up. It should probably read 1882 instead of 1889. Because the 1890 census was almost completely destroyed by fire, we now have to go to the 1880 census. Tommie and Eddie wouldn't have been born yet, but we know that Josephine had been married 21 years in 1900, and thus was married about 1879. She had a total of 7 children so we should expect to find a Whitney family with the wife named Josephine, and perhaps one child in the house. Sure enough, here's what I found: 1880 U.S. Census, ED 186, 2nd Ward, Terrebonne Parish, Louisiana, p. 241 283 356 Whitny Rendolph W M 21 Laborer Louisiana La La -- Josephine W F 22 Wife Keeping [House] Louisiana La La -- Agnesse W F 1 StepDau Louisiana La La So now we know that Josephine was married to 'Rendolph' Whitney, who was born about 1859 in Louisiana. I tried searching the 1870 census without much luck, but if I were you I would try again. I skipped back to the 1860 census to search for 'Rendolphe' and found the following: 1860 U.S. Census, Ward 10, Houma, Terrebonne Parish, Louisiana, p. 413 620 620 Mrs. Azdie Whitney 37 F La Washington " 13 M La Marguerite " 9 F La Louisiana " 7 F La Henry " 6 M La Rodolphe " 5 M La Edward " 3 M La Elizabeth " 1 F La So it appears that 'Rendolph' was also known as 'Rodolphe' and was the sone of 'Azdie' Whitney and the entire family was born in Louisiana. Going back another ten years I found the following: 1850 U.S. Census, Terrebonne Parish, Louisiana, p. 331 315 315 William Whitney 26 M Labourer Louisiana (can't read/write) Azelie Whitney 17 F " Washington Whitney 3 M " So with all of this information, it appears that your Thomas Whitney was born in December, 1889 in Louisiana, most likely in Houma, was the son of Rudolph Whitney and Josephine (-----). Rudolph Whitney was born about 1855 in Louisiana, perhaps in Houma, the son of William Whitney and Azelie (-----). William Whitney was born about 1824 in Louisiana, parents currently not known. I hope this helps! Tim Doyle -----Original Message----- From: Cristina [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 7:26 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Whitneys in Louisiana Looking for any information about Thomas Joseph WHITNEY from LA. He died about 1918 from the flu, was a railroad engineer, and was married to Laurentine BERGERON on 10 Aug 1911 at St. Francis-De-Sales Church, Houma, Terrebonne Parish, LA. Together, they had 7 kids that I am aware of. Alvin Joseph Joseph Randolph (b. 2 Apr 1912, killed as an innocent bystander to a fight) Lawrence (b. 17 July 1913, d. Dec 1976) Vivian Marie (my ggrandmother, b. 2 Apr 1916 , m. Theodore Carlin BERTRAM, d. 20 Feb 2000) Wilbert (died on street in CA) Thomas (disappeared around age 30) Helen (died in 1918?) They were possibly native of Lafourche Parish, Lockport, LA. If anyone has any information at all about these people, I would be ever so grateful. I have been stuck on Thomas Joseph for a long time. Thanks! Cristina Cavicchia

Tim and WRG: I have to plug in a huge BRAVO for Tim on this find. In the best tradition of the WRG, he has gone the extra mile to help a new member. It's this kind of interaction that makes me so proud of being a part of the WRG. Allan E. Green

Cristina: I did a little sleuthing on the online census records at ancestry.com and here's what I was able to find: I found your family on the 1910 census: 1910 U.S. Census, ED 104, 2nd Precinct, Houma, Terrebonne Parish, Louisiana, p. 218 515 515 Whitney Thos Head M W 26 M 6 Louisiana Louisiana Louisiana RR Brakeman -- Laurentine Wife F W 24 M 6 4 4 Louisiana Louisiana Louisiana -- Alvin Son M W 4 S Louisiana Louisiana Louisiana -- Thelma Dau F W 3 S Louisiana Louisiana Louisiana -- not named Son M W XX - Louisiana Louisiana Louisiana Bergeron Florence SinLaw F W 20 S Louisiana Louisiana Louisiana Whitney Josephine Mother F W 50 W 8 6 Louisiana Louisiana Louisiana Because the father's name and occupation matches, the mother's name matches, Alvin's name matches, and the sister in law with the last name of Bergeron matches, I feel confident that this is your family. This record gave us a crucial tidbit of information - that Thomas's mother was named Josephine. We also know that there was another daughter named Thelma that you had not known about before. I then used this information to search ten years earlier, in the 1900 census, and was able to locate them as follows: 1900 U.S. Census, ED 70, Houma, Terrebonne Parish, Louisiana, p. 101 517 537 Whitney Josephine Head W F May 1860 40 M 21 7 5 Louisiana Louisiana Louisiana Wash Woman -- Tommie Son W M Dec 1889 18 S Louisiana Louisiana Louisiana Boiler Maker -- Eddie Son W M Feb 1887 13 S Louisiana Louisiana Louisiana Day Laborer As you can see, your Thomas was named Tommie in the census, and would have been difficult to find had we not known his mother was Josephine. We also now know that Thomas had a brother named Eddie. There seems to be some confusion about Thomas' birthyear as things don't seem to add up. It should probably read 1882 instead of 1889. Because the 1890 census was almost completely destroyed by fire, we now have to go to the 1880 census. Tommie and Eddie wouldn't have been born yet, but we know that Josephine had been married 21 years in 1900, and thus was married about 1879. She had a total of 7 children so we should expect to find a Whitney family with the wife named Josephine, and perhaps one child in the house. Sure enough, here's what I found: 1880 U.S. Census, ED 186, 2nd Ward, Terrebonne Parish, Louisiana, p. 241 283 356 Whitny Rendolph W M 21 Laborer Louisiana La La -- Josephine W F 22 Wife Keeping [House] Louisiana La La -- Agnesse W F 1 StepDau Louisiana La La So now we know that Josephine was married to 'Rendolph' Whitney, who was born about 1859 in Louisiana. I tried searching the 1870 census without much luck, but if I were you I would try again. I skipped back to the 1860 census to search for 'Rendolphe' and found the following: 1860 U.S. Census, Ward 10, Houma, Terrebonne Parish, Louisiana, p. 413 620 620 Mrs. Azdie Whitney 37 F La Washington " 13 M La Marguerite " 9 F La Louisiana " 7 F La Henry " 6 M La Rodolphe " 5 M La Edward " 3 M La Elizabeth " 1 F La So it appears that 'Rendolph' was also known as 'Rodolphe' and was the sone of 'Azdie' Whitney and the entire family was born in Louisiana. Going back another ten years I found the following: 1850 U.S. Census, Terrebonne Parish, Louisiana, p. 331 315 315 William Whitney 26 M Labourer Louisiana (can't read/write) Azelie Whitney 17 F " Washington Whitney 3 M " So with all of this information, it appears that your Thomas Whitney was born in December, 1889 in Louisiana, most likely in Houma, was the son of Rudolph Whitney and Josephine (-----). Rudolph Whitney was born about 1855 in Louisiana, perhaps in Houma, the son of William Whitney and Azelie (-----). William Whitney was born about 1824 in Louisiana, parents currently not known. I hope this helps! Tim Doyle -----Original Message----- From: Cristina [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 7:26 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Whitneys in Louisiana Looking for any information about Thomas Joseph WHITNEY from LA. He died about 1918 from the flu, was a railroad engineer, and was married to Laurentine BERGERON on 10 Aug 1911 at St. Francis-De-Sales Church, Houma, Terrebonne Parish, LA. Together, they had 7 kids that I am aware of. Alvin Joseph Joseph Randolph (b. 2 Apr 1912, killed as an innocent bystander to a fight) Lawrence (b. 17 July 1913, d. Dec 1976) Vivian Marie (my ggrandmother, b. 2 Apr 1916 , m. Theodore Carlin BERTRAM, d. 20 Feb 2000) Wilbert (died on street in CA) Thomas (disappeared around age 30) Helen (died in 1918?) They were possibly native of Lafourche Parish, Lockport, LA. If anyone has any information at all about these people, I would be ever so grateful. I have been stuck on Thomas Joseph for a long time. Thanks! Cristina Cavicchia

Looking for any information about Thomas Joseph WHITNEY from LA. He died about 1918 from the flu, was a railroad engineer, and was married to Laurentine BERGERON on 10 Aug 1911 at St. Francis-De-Sales Church, Houma, Terrebonne Parish, LA. Together, they had 7 kids that I am aware of. Alvin Joseph Joseph Randolph (b. 2 Apr 1912, killed as an innocent bystander to a fight) Lawrence (b. 17 July 1913, d. Dec 1976) Vivian Marie (my ggrandmother, b. 2 Apr 1916 , m. Theodore Carlin BERTRAM, d. 20 Feb 2000) Wilbert (died on street in CA) Thomas (disappeared around age 30) Helen (died in 1918?) They were possibly native of Lafourche Parish, Lockport, LA. If anyone has any information at all about these people, I would be ever so grateful. I have been stuck on Thomas Joseph for a long time. Thanks! Cristina Cavicchia __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail

A fellow researcher and I have a difference of opinion as to which Samuel Whitney lived in the Wayside House in Concord, MA. a. One of us says it is Samuel Whitney (William, Nathaniel, John, John), m. Abigail Fletcher. To my knowledge, this Samuel never lived in Concord, but lived his whole married life in Westminster, MA. b. I say it is Samuel Whitney (Benjamin, Thomas, Thomas, John), m Abigail Cutler. Can anyone verify which Samuel Whitney was living in Wayside House? Thank you Sandy F.

Looking for the parent's of William WHITNEY. William was b in NY possibly Allegany County around 1812. He m Clarinda DAWLEY and they had a son named John b 3 February 1841.....Mary