Hi, I find 3 brothers---Roswell, David and Jacob in Delaware County , N.Y. Is there a record of their descent from John or Henry ? Tks, Helen [email protected]

Hello Ms Olson, I'm pleased to learn that you have acquired a copy of William Dwight Whitney's German English Dictionary. He was one of the leading linguists of the 19th century, who specialized in the study of Sanskrit, but also dealt with several European languages. He was the editor-in-chief for the 6 volume "Century Dictionary" (1889-91). His brother, Josiah Dwight Whitney was an equally eminent geologist who was instrumental in preserving the Yosemite Park area. Mt. Whitney is named for him. On Wed, 6 Jul 2005, Tours Assistant wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Tours Assistant > To: [email protected] > Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 2:03 PM > Subject: RE: Whitney's German English Dictionary > > > Hello, > > I wanted to try to send a note, getting this address from your website. > > I work for a historic German Mansion in LaSalle, IL and today we received a Whitney's German-English English-German Dictonary from 1877. It is a great addition to our library! Also, it will help us when we translate many of the documents left in the manison from the original families. > > I found your site on the internet and found it facinating. What a great family, and this is truly an excellent part of the history. > > I just wanted to let you know that William D. Whitney's works are still here and very much intact. And, once again, will surve a purpose. > > Sincerely, > > Edna Olson, Tour Director > Hegeler Carus Foundation Karl Schwerin SnailMail: Dept. of Anthropology Univ. of New Mexico Albuquerque, NM 87131 e-mail: [email protected] Cultural anthropology...is valuable because it is constantly rediscovering the normal. Edward Sapir (1949:151)

Hi Debbie. I have several Charles in my family but none went to Ohio. My stone wall is Charles Mayo Whitney born in MA, probably near Worcester, about 1835 who later moved to Troy, NY, St. Louis, MO, and then Victoria, BC.

Does anyone have any further information about Charles Whitney, born 21 July 1823, to Edward and Rhoda Whitney in Athol, MA? According to the 1900 Federal Census for Erie Co, NY, my Charles Whitney was born in Jul 1823 in Massachusetts. So far, Charles of Athol is the closest match I've found. The earliest record I've found for my Charles is a 1856 land purchase in Putnam Co, OH. The property was sold in 1864 and they appear in Erie Co, NY on the 1865 NYS census. Thanks in advance, Debbie

Today I was once again searching for information regarding my 5th great-grandmother, Hannah Coffin, the wife of Elijah5 (Daniel4, John3, John2, John1). I turned to the Whitney Research Group website and searched again for anything I may have missed. Although I came up empty-handed, the scope of the website once again amazed me. I just want to take the time to thank all the people who are instrumental in keeping that website up and running and who have contributed to the incredible volume of information on those pages. What you have done for all of us, as well as genealogy research for many "shirttail" relatives, is extraordinary. THANK YOU! Jo Hogle

I think Larry may have the answer. Upon reflection, I note that in Virginia during the French and Indian wars (in this case, circa 1758-60 or so), there were several forts established in what was then Hampshireshire County in the upper drainages of the Potomac River. Most of these forts appear to have been fortified dwelling houses, often fortified by the addition of a palisade wall. I suspect that Larry's "Dwelling House & wall" was something similar. For information about one such fort, Google on Fort Edwards and study the archeology reports. Mike Poston Rockville, Maryland Larry wrote: >WRG, > >Yesterday I wrote: > >WRG, >While reviewing deeds recently, one presented a phrase regarding the sale of a "Dwelling House & wall" on a one half acre lot that proved a bit baffling. > The place and date was coastal Maine in 1765 where sporadic Indian attacks had occurred over the previous twenty years, but had lessened of late. I suspect >"wall" may connote a barricade of sorts without the premises of the house, but in this case may actually be a secure doubled partition within the cellar >for safety during an attack. I am mindful that a "wall" could reference a spring, however I don't recall ever having seen a spring included within a deed. > The word is definitely "wall", not "well"as one would want to believe. Has anyone encountered this same or similar phraseology in their research that >might help lead to a resolution? > >***Through a bit more research today, I was able to find a reference to a similarly constructed house in the immediate area under review. To discourage or ward off Indian attacks the house or so-called garrison house was encircled with a large ten foot "log wall". The rear of the dwelling was actually built as part of the wall. It is interesting to note that many small settlements at this time of Indian hostilities had a number of garrisons that were dissimilar in appearance from the garrison house, but did house a family. I have to suppose that the deed reference to "Dwelling House & wall" was one person's way of describing his barricaded domicile. > >Thanking all for their kind indulgence, every day offers a new challenge! > >Larry > > > >

WRG, Yesterday I wrote: WRG, While reviewing deeds recently, one presented a phrase regarding the sale of a "Dwelling House & wall" on a one half acre lot that proved a bit baffling. The place and date was coastal Maine in 1765 where sporadic Indian attacks had occurred over the previous twenty years, but had lessened of late. I suspect "wall" may connote a barricade of sorts without the premises of the house, but in this case may actually be a secure doubled partition within the cellar for safety during an attack. I am mindful that a "wall" could reference a spring, however I don't recall ever having seen a spring included within a deed. The word is definitely "wall", not "well"as one would want to believe. Has anyone encountered this same or similar phraseology in their research that might help lead to a resolution? ***Through a bit more research today, I was able to find a reference to a similarly constructed house in the immediate area under review. To discourage or ward off Indian attacks the house or so-called garrison house was encircled with a large ten foot "log wall". The rear of the dwelling was actually built as part of the wall. It is interesting to note that many small settlements at this time of Indian hostilities had a number of garrisons that were dissimilar in appearance from the garrison house, but did house a family. I have to suppose that the deed reference to "Dwelling House & wall" was one person's way of describing his barricaded domicile. Thanking all for their kind indulgence, every day offers a new challenge! Larry

WRG, While reviewing deeds recently, one presented a phrase regarding the sale of a "Dwelling House & wall" on a one half acre lot that proved a bit baffling. The place and date was coastal Maine in 1765 where sporadic Indian attacks had occurred over the previous twenty years, but had lessened of late. I suspect "wall" may connote a barricade of sorts without the premises of the house, but in this case may actually be a secure doubled partition within the cellar for safety during an attack. I am mindful that a "wall" could reference a spring, however I don't recall ever having seen a spring included within a deed. The word is definitely "wall", not "well"as one would want to believe. Has anyone encountered this same or similar phraseology in their research that might help lead to a resolution? Larry Tracy

WRG: Found this on the Maine maillist and knew many of you would be interested Allan E. Green *************************** Dear listers, I found an ad in the NEGHS magazine that says that Picton Press Plans on putting all the vital records from each town in Maine on CD's! There is a list of towns that are already available go to this link to see if your town is listed! http://www.pictonpress.com/catalog/MaineVR.pdf Of course the ones I want aren't available yet but I asked that they JUMP to the front of the list! Check it out! Sue Szewczyk Maine families Listowner

Although my grandmother Mary Rosette Whitney 9 (1880-1935) is the last Whitney in my line, I too appeared in a piece of fiction. I am mentioned in the novel by Tony Hillerman. The Blessing Way. New York: Dell 1970. On Sun, 19 Jun 2005, Frances Whitney wrote: > I was in a piece of fiction once. A fellow who dated > one of my roommates in college had published in a > magazine a short story that featured Miss Whitney, > mean English teacher. I figured he remembered me. > > Now, I AM the mean English teacher. > > frances > xoxoo > > --- Miles Fowler <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I was interested to note that in the season finale >> of the HBO series "Deadwood" (set in the infamous >> mining camp of Deadwood, South Dakota, circa 1876) >> there was a wedding performed to join two of the >> characters; as often happens in such cases we learn >> the full names of the characters being wed. The >> groom, who has gone two years, I believe, without >> anyone calling him anything but "Ellsworth" or "Mr. >> Ellsworth," is named "Whitney Conway Elsworth." >> (Note that the character's full name is composed >> entirely of family names which does, of course, >> occur.) I suppose the writers just pulled the >> Whitney name out of a hat, but it is a good choice. >> W.C. Ellsworth is one of the show's more honest and >> reliable figures if not one of the smartest. The >> marriage is one of convenience rather than love, so, >> dramatically speaking, the outcome is uncertain; >> they are friends and business associates more than >> anything else. >> >> Miles >> >> >> >> >> > ________________________________________________________________ >> Sent via the WebMail system at mail.nexet.net >> >> >> >> >> >> > > Karl Schwerin SnailMail: Dept. of Anthropology Univ. of New Mexico Albuquerque, NM 87131 e-mail: [email protected] Cultural anthropology...is valuable because it is constantly rediscovering the normal. Edward Sapir (1949:151)

Are you sure the characters are fictional? Just south of Deadwood, across the Nebraska line is the town of Whitney. And there have been Whitney's in the Dakotas for a long time. For instance, I have a niece in Sturgis (who lived in Deadwood the first time I visited back in '84). In addition to the niece in Sturgis are other family members in the Eagle Butte and Mobridge areas. Yes, the first question is somewhat tongue-in-cheek, but check the land, homestead, and census records and you will see that the Whitney presence in Dakota territory goes way back. Bruce A. Whitney (Albert-9, Oscar-8, Silas-7, Cornelius-6, Cornelius-5, Matthias-4, Cornelius-3, Joshua-2, John-1)

My bad. Is fixed now. Wrist is slapped. Won't happen again (till next time).

I was interested to note that in the season finale of the HBO series "Deadwood" (set in the infamous mining camp of Deadwood, South Dakota, circa 1876) there was a wedding performed to join two of the characters; as often happens in such cases we learn the full names of the characters being wed. The groom, who has gone two years, I believe, without anyone calling him anything but "Ellsworth" or "Mr. Ellsworth," is named "Whitney Conway Elsworth." (Note that the character's full name is composed entirely of family names which does, of course, occur.) I suppose the writers just pulled the Whitney name out of a hat, but it is a good choice. W.C. Ellsworth is one of the show's more honest and reliable figures if not one of the smartest. The marriage is one of convenience rather than love, so, dramatically speaking, the outcome is uncertain; they are friends and business associates more than anything else. Miles ________________________________________________________________ Sent via the WebMail system at mail.nexet.net

I won't say welcome to the clan only because you were always welcome. ________________________________________________________________ Sent via the WebMail system at mail.nexet.net

I was in a piece of fiction once. A fellow who dated one of my roommates in college had published in a magazine a short story that featured Miss Whitney, mean English teacher. I figured he remembered me. Now, I AM the mean English teacher. frances xoxoo --- Miles Fowler <[email protected]> wrote: > I was interested to note that in the season finale > of the HBO series "Deadwood" (set in the infamous > mining camp of Deadwood, South Dakota, circa 1876) > there was a wedding performed to join two of the > characters; as often happens in such cases we learn > the full names of the characters being wed. The > groom, who has gone two years, I believe, without > anyone calling him anything but "Ellsworth" or "Mr. > Ellsworth," is named "Whitney Conway Elsworth." > (Note that the character's full name is composed > entirely of family names which does, of course, > occur.) I suppose the writers just pulled the > Whitney name out of a hat, but it is a good choice. > W.C. Ellsworth is one of the show's more honest and > reliable figures if not one of the smartest. The > marriage is one of convenience rather than love, so, > dramatically speaking, the outcome is uncertain; > they are friends and business associates more than > anything else. > > Miles > > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > Sent via the WebMail system at mail.nexet.net > > > > > >

I believe I finally have it. After several years on a brick wall, my brothers DNA test and recent finds I have found my connection to John and Elinor Whitney. This is how I believe my lines goes: John & Elinor Whitney Benjamin & Jane Whitney Joshua Whitney & Hannah Rockwood Joshua & Phebe Whitney John Whitney & Molly Cary John Whitney & Polly Gibbs Truman Whitney & Florilla Holmes George Whitney & Emma Hill Lemuel Whitney & Ella Rebecca Sadler William Paul Whitney & Wava Pearl Whitesell (my grandparents) Any comments or suggestions are more than welcome. Janet Whitney Duffield

WRG: I believe this is Joseph Davis Whitney. The dates mentioned are slightly off, but the rest is compatible with what I previously have learned of him. His ancestry is: John1, Benjamin2, John3, Benjamin4, Abraham5, Benjamin6, Joseph Davis7. Ken Whitney Silver Spring, MD ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, June 17, 2005 4:10 PM Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Joseph D.Whitney of St. Clair county, Michigan (biography) > Hi.. > > I am not related to this Whitney, but thought I'd drop this biography > for > whoever's related to him. This was in the St. Clair county, Michigan > biographies of well known and wealthy people. > > > Joseph D. WHITNEY, owner and proprietor Pacific House, corner Mt. Huron > avenue and Butler street, is a native of Maine, and was born at Lisbon > Falls, > March 16, 1817. He came to St. Clair County and settled at Port Huron > April 23, > 1854. After coming here, he put machinery in a shingle mill, and engaged > in > lumbering for several years. In 1858, he built a hotel on corner opposite > Pacific > House, and run that house four years; in 1862, bought the Huron House, and > remained propreiter of that house until 1870, when he retired from > business for > some years. In 1880, he bought the hotel property corner Huron avenue and > Butler street, and enlarged it and since then been proprietor of the > Pacific House. > Mr. WHITNEY has had a large practical experience as a landlord, and gives > every part of his house his personal supervision. In January 1859, he > married > Mrs. Margaret MASTERSON, a native of Monroe, Mich.; they have three > children, > Charles J., Fred A., and Jessie. Mr. WHITNEY has one daughter by a former > wife. > pg. 603 Port Huron > > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Acres/8194/query003.htm#424 > > Hope this helps someone in their research! > > Holly >

Hi.. I am not related to this Whitney, but thought I'd drop this biography for whoever's related to him. This was in the St. Clair county, Michigan biographies of well known and wealthy people. Joseph D. WHITNEY, owner and proprietor Pacific House, corner Mt. Huron avenue and Butler street, is a native of Maine, and was born at Lisbon Falls, March 16, 1817. He came to St. Clair County and settled at Port Huron April 23, 1854. After coming here, he put machinery in a shingle mill, and engaged in lumbering for several years. In 1858, he built a hotel on corner opposite Pacific House, and run that house four years; in 1862, bought the Huron House, and remained propreiter of that house until 1870, when he retired from business for some years. In 1880, he bought the hotel property corner Huron avenue and Butler street, and enlarged it and since then been proprietor of the Pacific House. Mr. WHITNEY has had a large practical experience as a landlord, and gives every part of his house his personal supervision. In January 1859, he married Mrs. Margaret MASTERSON, a native of Monroe, Mich.; they have three children, Charles J., Fred A., and Jessie. Mr. WHITNEY has one daughter by a former wife. pg. 603 Port Huron http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Acres/8194/query003.htm#424 Hope this helps someone in their research! Holly

All, The records show that "Mrs." Mary WHITNEY "of Dorchester" married Rev. Jacob BACON "of Plymouth" on 25 Oct 1774, Dorchester, MA. Who was she? Previously I identified her as Mary-6 WHITNEY, born 5 Nov 1745, Natick, MA, daughter of David-5 and Mehitable (PARKER) WHITNEY [Nathaniel-4, Nathaniel-3, John-2, John-1]. Apparently that is wrong. According to Bacon, Leon Brooks, "Michael Bacon and his Descendants," NEHGR, vol. LVI (1902), pp. 364-374, especially pp. 369, 373-374, Mary (WHITNEY) BACON died in Sedgwick, Maine, March 6, 1815, aged 87. That puts her birth 1727-1728, which is 17 years earlier than the above Mary-6 WHITNEY. The only Mary WHITNEY I know, either maiden or widow, who is available to be this wife, and whose age is within three years of 1727, is Mary-5 WHITNEY, born 8 Jan 1727/8, Wrentham, MA, daughter of Jonathan-4 and Tryphena (DANIEL) WHITNEY [Josiah-3, Jonathan-2, John-1]. Her age tallies exactly with that of the widow of Rev. Jacob BACON. Furthermore, her age of 46 at marriage explains the lack of children born from this union. I don't know why she would have been living in Dorchester. As a result of these considerations, I now believe that Mary-5 married BACON, not Mary-6. The later history of Mary-6 WHITNEY now comes into question. She might well be the Mary WHITNEY "of Natick" who married 10 May 1792, Medfield, MA, Solomon PARKER, at the age of 46. That bride is otherwise unidentified. I find no children recorded for this couple, either. For her husband, I propose the Solomon PARKER, son of Samuel and Hannah (DUNCKLEY) PARKER, born 17 Aug 1741, Needham, MA. He apparently married firstly, 13 Jun 1763, Holliston, MA, Elizabeth JONES, who died Mar. 24, 1790, Holliston, MA, aged 47 years. They had several children born in Holliston. Elizabeth's death left this Solomon PARKER free to marry the spinster Mary-6 WHITNEY two years later. Mary would have been about four years his junior. As probably as I believe they are, proof of these two identifications is lacking, and would be gladly received. Pierce fails to give a marriage for Mary-6, and doesn't mention Mary-5 at all, so that source is irrelevant. Probably it is not an critical matter, since neither of these brides seems to have left descendants. Regards, Robert Mr. Robert L. Ward [email protected] http://www.whitneygen.org/home.html

The John-7 that is in Pierce but not in Hallam Whitney & F.E. Weeks's account (to which Robert linked) is also missing from this list of baptisms of the children of (to use their Broome County nicknames) "Judge" Joshua-6 and his brother "General" William: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~clifflamere/Bp/BP-Noble.htm Hallam also gives Joshua and William-6 a brother Thomas, but no sister, which disagrees with all other accounts. This page, on which Judge Joshua is #459, unfortunately gives no sources, but does show John-7, and is more up-to-date all around: http://www.rogersark.net/hawkeyes/whitney.htm That corrected some of the errors in the two older accounts, but said nothing about military service. Another disagreement between Hallam and Pierce involves just which Joshua served in the 9th Regiment of the Albany County Militia. Hallam says it was Judge Joshua; Pierce says his father Thomas's first cousin "Captain" Joshua: http://www.whitneygen.org/archives/extracts/pierce/p111-115.htm#P540 (Conveniently, Thomas-5's entry is directly above this one.) "Gen." William was a private in the Claverack battalion. I've always assumed the officer named Joshua was his brother. Are both Hallam and Pierce right? Are there two Joshua Whitneys in the same regiment? Does anyone have a copy of "New York in the Revolution" handy? Cheers, Ron Kyser On Friday, June 10, 2005, at 06:20 PM, Robert L. Ward wrote: > I noticed that Pierce has an Asahel WHITNEY of the right age. See > > <http://www.whitneygen.org/archives/extracts/pierce/p386-390.htm#P3092>. > That would be Asahel-8 WHITNEY [John-7, Joshua-6, Thomas-5, William-4, > William-3, > Joshua-2, John-1], born 30 Aug 1809. > > On the other hand, Pierce's account of Joshua-6 and Hannah (GREEN) > WHITNEY's > family doesn't agree very well with that in this reference: > <http://www.whitneygen.org/archives/extracts/newbing.html>. > In particular, it doesn't give Joshua-6 a son named John. > > It's hard to know who is right, but if Pierce is, then you just might > have the > solution to your problem! I hope these clues can lead you to proof. > > > Regards, > > Robert > > Mr. Robert L. Ward > [email protected] > http://www.whitneygen.org/home.html