I am having research issues with some of my Whitney's. First, yes, I have more than one group of Whitney's in my family tree. I have a David Whitney (b. Jun 1880 Maine) who lived in Sabula Iowa. His parents, according to census were David C Whitney (b 1842 Canada) and Evaline Mills Whitney. The 1880 David married Mary Petersen/or Peterson* about 1913, and I have found they had 2 children, Viola and Hazel. I can find them in one more census, then nothing.....but show David later marrying a woman in Dubuque Iowa, and having children with her, but no mention of the first 2 girls. Anywhere or Mary his wife from 1913. First problem is obivous, I cannot find death records or anything that would point to Mary and the girls dying. I don't think David was a bigamist, but one can never be sure about things ! Does anyone have a lead on this branch of the family to help fill in blanks and questions ? Second problem, the census records would point to the 1842 David's parents as being David Charles Whitney b. 1803 and Mercy Springer Whitney b.1801, but I am not sure, and cannot find verification of this anywhere. The repeated names of especially the girls in the family would point to this, but once again, I have no proof. I have searched the Whitneygen.org for proof until I am about blind and my carpal tunnel is killing me ! I am talking WEEKS and MONTHS of searching these questions ! Third, IF David Charles Whitney-1801 and Mercy Springer ARE the correct parents for the David b-1842, and both parents were born in Maine, and all the other children I have found were born in Maine....then how did he come to be born in Canada ? The only child born in Canada ? Were they on vacation when he was born ? See what I mean about confused ? In a later census, I saw that a possible sister Caroline from the same family was listed as being born in Canada, but only just the one reference...and not ever again. Four, I was told by my mother back in the 1980's, God rest her soul, that I could apply for membership to the DAR via the Whitney line, but she never told me through who or how, but one of our Savanna, IL relatives already belonged. Any one know of this specific Whitney line and how it would be the correct persons? On Ancestry.com, the 1850 census has the David-1803 and Mercy family listed, but only the original. There are 3 names that I cannot decipher. One looks like it is GEAR born about 1830...but I KNOW that isn't correct. One name looks like it is HARMCH born about 1837, or if you squint, it could be HAMISH....but not quite. Last one is the doosey.....with a possible dob of 1845, the name looks like ABERGENT, and I KNOW that isn't it. I tried all different search name possibilities thru Ancestry and the Whitneygen.org sites to no avail. Does anyone have a clear transcribed listing for this family in Lincoln, Penobscot, Maine ? Or be willing to take a look at an email that I could send to them from Ancestry.com ? As I said, I have researched until I am about blind, literally !! One last mystery......same 1850 census for Lincoln, Penobscot, Maine. It looks as if there was a daughter that married......Almira age 24, so dob would be about 1826...and her husbands first name is quite clear, David, (shocked I know) and a child Susan M., but the last names REALLY looks like CATHEART, but all other places it shows CARTHEART....including later census'. Maybe I have just been doing too much census reading, but I had my family look and they agree with what I see. Anyone have leads on Almira and David CARTHEART or CATHEART ? *Petersen/Peterson note........This is also my family. Head of family was Sören Petersen from Denmark, lived in Sabula Iowa. A couple of the sons changed the spelling to PETERSON....and until this year, neither side ever realized we were related...and only 1 mile of distance between us ! Sad ! But any reference to Mary Petersen, could be also spelled Peterson as well. Thank you, Lori Callaway [email protected]

Dear Sir or Madam: I'm not quite sure what you mean about a Whitney Website having been perverted by perverts. Could you be more specific in identifying this website precisely. I certainly hope that it was not the Whitney Research Group website that you have characterized in this fashion? http://www.whitneygen.org/ is the URL for our collective website. Please search there and see if you can find information that will be of assistance to you in your search for Whitney ancestors. Sincerely, Allan E. Green

Amen. Carolyn Whitney Branagan ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, December 09, 2005 2:54 PM Subject: Re: [WHITNEY-L] Fanny Young > Robert: > > Just as a wife can never be told too often that she is still beautiful, > neither can you be told often enough how high in my esteem you are held. > The time > and effort that you have put into gathering the resources you have to work > with, and the skill with which you use these resources never ceases to > amaze me. > > We of the WRG are so blest to have you as our "primary source" and our > conscience as it comes to providing documentation. So doing enables us to > try to > ensure that what we pass on is as reliable and reproducible as we can > possibly > make it. > > Thank you many times over. > > Allan E. Green > (may I say Founding Member?) > >

HI JOHN WHITNEY MARRIED HERMENDA ???????? IN 1898/9 LOWELL MASS ,THEY HAD TWO CHILDREN , FIRST MILDRED BORN. 1905 IN LOWELL MASS, AND THEN .DONALD, BORN, 1911 IN LOWELL MASS. TRYING TO FIND ANY CONNECTIONS OF THIS FAMILY. JOHN WAS BORN IN UNITED KINGDOM. AND HERMENDA WAS BORN IN CANADA 1876 CAN ANYBODY HELP REGARDS, COLIN.

Robert: Just as a wife can never be told too often that she is still beautiful, neither can you be told often enough how high in my esteem you are held. The time and effort that you have put into gathering the resources you have to work with, and the skill with which you use these resources never ceases to amaze me. We of the WRG are so blest to have you as our "primary source" and our conscience as it comes to providing documentation. So doing enables us to try to ensure that what we pass on is as reliable and reproducible as we can possibly make it. Thank you many times over. Allan E. Green (may I say Founding Member?)

WHITNEY, John 1839 March Marriages Nantwich Cheshire WORRALL, Hannah 1839 March Marriages Northwich Cheshire This is the grandfather of John Whitney-1890 immigrant to Mass. Johm/James/John

1851 England census Abel Whitney abt 1849 Castle Northwich, Cheshire, England Son Castle Northwich Cheshire Hannah Whitney abt 1815 Hartford, Cheshire, England Wife Castle Northwich Cheshire James Whitney abt 1841 Leftwich, Cheshire, England Son Castle Northwich Cheshire John Whitney abt 1814 Hartford, Cheshire, England Head Castle Northwich Cheshire Mary Whitney abt 1843 Leftwich, Cheshire, England Daughter Castle Northwich Cheshire William Whitney abt 1846 Leftwich, Cheshire, England Son Castle Northwich Cheshire ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, December 09, 2005 12:43 PM Subject: Re: [WHITNEY-L] john whitney FROM UK. > Father was James Whitney who was born in England March 1841 and was a > Civil War vet. Must have lived in America during the war? > > 1891 England census: > > Name: Whitney, James > Age: 50 > Estimated birth year: abt 1841 > Relation: Head > Gender: Male > Where Born: Northwich, Cheshire > Birth Country: England > > Civil parish: Runcorn > Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity > Town: Runcorn > County/Island: Cheshire > > Street address: View Image > Condition as to marriage: View Image > Education: View Image > Employment status: View Image > Occupation: View Image > > Source information: RG12/2831 > Registration district: Runcorn > Sub registration district: Runcorn > ED, institution, or vessel: 6 > Folio: 127 > Page: 15 (click to see others on page) > GSU Number: > > > 6097941 > > > This is the father > > still living in England after his son left for America. His daughter > Florence is still with him. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "colin whitney" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, December 09, 2005 6:15 AM > Subject: [WHITNEY-L] john whitney FROM UK. > > >> H >> >> MILDRED WHITNEY BORN. 1905 LOWELL MASS >> >> DONALD. WHITNEY BORN. 1911 LOWELL >> >> CHILDREN OF JOHN& HERMENDA WHITNEY ,MAIDEN NAME UNKNOWN >> LOOKING FOR ANY FAMILY CONNECTIONS ,DATE OF MARRIAGE >> AND DEATHS. JOHN ARRIVED IN AMERICA 1892 FROM UK. >> HERMENDA ARRIVED FROM CANADA, 1888. >> >> CAN ANY ONE HELP. >> >> REGARDS, COLIN [email protected] >> >> >> >> >

Father was James Whitney who was born in England March 1841 and was a Civil War vet. Must have lived in America during the war? 1891 England census: Name: Whitney, James Age: 50 Estimated birth year: abt 1841 Relation: Head Gender: Male Where Born: Northwich, Cheshire Birth Country: England Civil parish: Runcorn Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity Town: Runcorn County/Island: Cheshire Street address: View Image Condition as to marriage: View Image Education: View Image Employment status: View Image Occupation: View Image Source information: RG12/2831 Registration district: Runcorn Sub registration district: Runcorn ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Folio: 127 Page: 15 (click to see others on page) GSU Number: 6097941 This is the father still living in England after his son left for America. His daughter Florence is still with him. ----- Original Message ----- From: "colin whitney" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, December 09, 2005 6:15 AM Subject: [WHITNEY-L] john whitney FROM UK. > H > > MILDRED WHITNEY BORN. 1905 LOWELL MASS > > DONALD. WHITNEY BORN. 1911 LOWELL > > CHILDREN OF JOHN& HERMENDA WHITNEY ,MAIDEN NAME UNKNOWN > LOOKING FOR ANY FAMILY CONNECTIONS ,DATE OF MARRIAGE > AND DEATHS. JOHN ARRIVED IN AMERICA 1892 FROM UK. > HERMENDA ARRIVED FROM CANADA, 1888. > > CAN ANY ONE HELP. > > REGARDS, COLIN [email protected] > > > >

H MILDRED WHITNEY BORN. 1905 LOWELL MASS DONALD. WHITNEY BORN. 1911 LOWELL CHILDREN OF JOHN& HERMENDA WHITNEY ,MAIDEN NAME UNKNOWN LOOKING FOR ANY FAMILY CONNECTIONS ,DATE OF MARRIAGE AND DEATHS. JOHN ARRIVED IN AMERICA 1892 FROM UK. HERMENDA ARRIVED FROM CANADA, 1888. CAN ANY ONE HELP. REGARDS, COLIN [email protected]

Joyce, At 10:39 PM 12/8/05, [email protected] wrote: >Fanny Young, b. July 18, 1870, Gardner, Massachusetts was the wife of > >William Alexander Whitney, b. January 4, 1870, Gardner, Massachusetts, >s/o William H. Whitney and Mary Ella Sweet > >Fanny d. abt. 1926, Medford, Massachusetts > >Does anyone know who Fanny's parents were? >Where was she born? That information would appear on their marriage record. I found that William A. WHITNEY and Fannie E. YOUNG were married in 1895 in Chelsea, MA. You should obtain a copy of that record from the Commonwealth of Massachusetts. I looked for Fannie E. YOUNG in the 1880 Census. Given that the marriage occurred in Chelsea, this seems to be the right family: Chelsea, Suffolk Co., MA, Film #T9-0562, page 428D William J. YOUNG Self M Male W 39 MA Sail Maker ME MA Aeabie YOUNG Dau S Female W 13 MA At School MA ME Fanny YOUNG Dau S Female W 8 MA At School MA ME Oscar YOUNG Son S Male W 5 MA MA ME Susan W. YOUNG Mother W Female W 65 ME Keeping House ME ME You should look at the original census film because transcription is likely to be difficult. Especially the name of Fanny's older sister seems to be garbled. I am puzzled by the fact that William's data says his mother was born in MA, while Susan, his stated mother, says that she was born in ME. I am also puzzled that William is said to be married, not widowed, yet his wife is absent, despite the presence of small children. I did find that a certain Fannie M. YOUNG died in Chelsea in 1878. She would be a good candidate for William's wife and Fannie E. YOUNG's mother. Second choice would be Sarah E. YOUNG who died in Chelsea in 1877. Those death records would be revealing as to age at death, place of birth, and parentage. Good luck! Regards, Robert Mr. Robert L. Ward rlward AT whitneygen DOT org http://www.whitneygen.org/home.html

I am looking for any information for Pearl Olive Sleeth? (birth date - parent's - place of birth -place and date of death? (She may have been born in New Brunswick) She was the wife of .. William Sumner Whitney, b. September 23, 1906, Chelsea, Massachusetts He was the s/o William Alexander Whitney and Fanny E. Young. Regards, Joyce Massachusetts

Fanny Young, b. July 18, 1870, Gardner, Massachusetts was the wife of William Alexander Whitney, b. January 4, 1870, Gardner, Massachusetts, s/o William H. Whitney and Mary Ella Sweet Fanny d. abt. 1926, Medford, Massachusetts Does anyone know who Fanny's parents were? Where was she born? Regards, Joyce Massachusetts

T. E., At 07:52 PM 12/7/05, [email protected] wrote: > I have some headstone photos from the Marysville. Ca Historic cemetery of >several Whitneys ,including Edward Webster. >There are other Whitneys there, but I havent located their stones yet. The >Marysville Cemetery has had a lot of vandalism and I had to make an >appointment to get in. I would be glad to send these photos to someone at >the Whitneygen website for the cemetery page. Send them to me and I'll create a page for them linked to the Cemeteries section of the Archives, <http://www.whitneygen.org/archives/cemeteries/>. See other pages linked from there for examples of how I've done that in the past. Regards, Robert Mr. Robert L. Ward rlward AT whitneygen DOT org http://www.whitneygen.org/home.html

I have some headstone photos from the Marysville. Ca Historic cemetery of several Whitneys ,including Edward Webster. There are other Whitneys there, but I havent located their stones yet. The Marysville Cemetery has had a lot of vandalism and I had to make an appointment to get in. I would be glad to send these photos to someone at the Whitneygen website for the cemetery page. T.E. Shirley

Willard's date of birth is 1882, not 1822. -----Original Message----- From: Joyce [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 11:09 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Whitney - NY Hello list. I am looking for the parents of Willard Moore Whitney, b. 23 Sep 1822-1946 in NY. He married Hester Lucretia Kress (1883-1966) from Pen Argyl, Northampton, PA and they moved to Philadelphia, PA . I have checked the census and found him in Troy Ward 2, Rensselaer, NY in the 1900 census. He was manager/owner of the Whitney Coal Mining Co. in Philadelphia, PA according to his WW1 draft registration card. I've also checked the Whitney site and haven't found him there. I have seen many Willard Whitneys at Ancestry.com, but all have a different middle initial and different birth dates. I have descendant information to share. Thank you in advance for any response. Joyce [email protected] ______________________________

Hello List: The company that is handling our dna testing is offering through me two gift certificates for thirty dollars US each for 25 and/or 37 marker tests for men, and fifteen dollars off for mitochondrial testing for either men or women. This offer is only good from Dec. 6 through Dec 31 of this year. If you have been considering testing and the cost has been a barrier to your participation, please get in touch with me at [email protected] for more information. This kind of testing will be particularly useful for people who do not know if they are descended from John-1 of Watertown or Henry-1 of CT and Long Island, as we now have a pretty good picture of what those two lines look like. I hope to hear from one or two of you. Whitney Keen Group Administrator Whitney Surname Project

Hello list. I am looking for the parents of Willard Moore Whitney, b. 23 Sep 1822-1946 in NY. He married Hester Lucretia Kress (1883-1966) from Pen Argyl, Northampton, PA and they moved to Philadelphia, PA . I have checked the census and found him in Troy Ward 2, Rensselaer, NY in the 1900 census. He was manager/owner of the Whitney Coal Mining Co. in Philadelphia, PA according to his WW1 draft registration card. I've also checked the Whitney site and haven't found him there. I have seen many Willard Whitneys at Ancestry.com, but all have a different middle initial and different birth dates. I have descendant information to share. Thank you in advance for any response. Joyce [email protected]

WRG and Larry Tracy, I believe I have figured out who were some of the Whitneys buried in LaGrange. Gershom K. Whitney was born ca 1842. He was the son of Ephraim and Lucy (Nash McCaslin) Whitney of Columbia, Washington Co., Maine. Ephraim married Lucy in Columbia 14 Sept 1841. Gershom had a brother named Claudius M., born ca 1848. Gershom's ancestry is: John1, Benjamin2, Nathaniel3, Nathan4, Nathan5, Nathan6, Ephraim7, Gershom K.8. In the 1880 census for Medway, Penobscot, Maine we find Ephraim and Lucy in one household, and a few doors away are Gershom K. and Mary E.Whitney and family. Gershom, age 36 Mary E., age 35 Charles M., age 15 Claudius M., age 14 Clara M., age 6 Winifred H., age 3 Mary L., age 7/12 So, it looks like buried in LaGrange are Gershom K. Whitney, his wife Mary E., and daughter Mary Ladd. Melville C. could have been any of three family members: Gershom's brother Claudius M., or one of his sons, Charles M. or Claudius M. Who the rest of the unidentified are, I cannot tell. Ken Whitney Si;ver Spring, MD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 5:06 PM Subject: [WHITNEY-L] Rev. John Whitney Burial, Lagrange, Maine > WRG, > > > > While networking with individuals in the vicinity of Lagrange, Maine, I > was able to consult with a former sexton of that community as it regards > Whitney burials. Accordingly, he related the following information > physically gathered from several burial markers located on a single plot > (Section B, Row 12, Lot # 1): > > *Rev. John F. Whitney, born at Neuburgh (sp. Var.), Maine, March 26, 1823, > died Newport, Maine December 2, 1890. > > *Victoria FA(?), wife of John, born in Stratham, N. H. November 12, 1825, > died at Glasgow, Mont. April 6, 1912. > > > > Other small stones located beside Rev. John and Victoria Whitney bear the > following inscriptions: Dora, Gracia, John, Charles Albert and a fifth > marker, as described by the sexton, having a somewhat obscure name viz > Drrupizer or Drruprier (?). > > > > This John Whitney is seen in the 1850 census of Lubec, Maine as a > clergyman, age 27 years, and believed to have the following ancestry: > John (7), John (6), Amos (5), Amos(4), Nathaniel (3), Benjamin (2), John > (1). > > > > Other Whitney names appearing in the Lagrange burial record book outside > of the above and not physically viewed are: M. Ladd Whitney, Agnes Ladd > Whitney, Gersham K. Whitney, Iva Whitney, Lena M. Whitney, Mary E. Whitney > and Melville C. Whitney. > > Note: Since Charles Albert Whitney and the aforementioned obscure name do > not appear in the burial book, it may be advisable to actually check the > cemetery for additional Whitney interments not recorded. > > > > As a final comment, I would hopefully like to enlist the help of the WRG > in locating a John Whitney, born 1783, and last seen in Brewer, Maine in > 1814. Barring his untimely death, he apparently fails to appear in the > 1820 Maine census, prompting the possibility of his removal to such places > as N. Y., Michigan, Minnesota,Wisconsin or the Ohio region as did many > Mainers at that time. Several John Whitneys born in 1783 have appeared on > this WRG forum in recent times, none of whom are the one sought. Should > anyone in our group locate through any record in any state a John Whitney > born in Maine or New Brunswick/Nova Scotia circa 1783, I would appreciate > your advising me of your find. > > > > Best Wishes, > > Larry Tracy Jr. > > Kennebunkport, Maine >

Hi List: The 1870 census for Maxfield show additional children than on the 1880 census. In addition to the parents are: Clarence W. age 14 Frank B. age 11 Mary J. (not C.) age 7 Anna age 5 b. Dora E. age 3 Gracia F. age 1 All children born Maine. John

WRG: Reference the John F. Whitney in Larry's note. He and family appear on the 1880 census for Maxfiedl, Penobscot, Me. John F. Whitney age 58 born Me Farmer Victoria F.A. Whitney age 44 born NH Keeping house Mary C. Whitney age 17 born Me Teaching school Anne V. Whitney age 15 born Me at school Dora E. Whitney age 13 born Me at school Gratia S. Whitney age 11 born Me George C. Whitney age 6 born Me John and Charles Albert are not listed on the census. John