Hello Heidi, You were wanting to know why your Whites moved west. I am not sure if you and I are connected, but here is the story of my direct line of Whites and when and why they moved west: Now according to my White information or file, many of the Whites', (and the McDowells, and some of the Blacks, Wests, and Wyatts that married into these families siblings and cousins of my direct ancestors), migrated to everywhere from Ga to Texas, etc., before and after The War for Southern Independence. For example, some of the Blacks that married into our McDowell family migrated to La and then to Texas. One being a lawyer and big in some Dallas newspaper business. Another example was in 1873 when all of the children of a Wyatt relative went to Texas. But as for my direct line: My great grandfather, Rev. Wm. Henry White, was born in Spartanburg, S.C. around 1850. His parents were John Warren White and Isabella Jane McDowell (John was the great grandson of Col. Henry White). Anyway, John Warren White was killed in 1864 while serving with the Palmetto SharpShooters, S.C. Vols., C.S.A.. In 1866 my g.g.grandmother Isabella Jane (McDowell) White remarried a Mr. James Henry Calvert, and South Carolina being overrun with yankee criminals, carpetbaggers, southern scalawags and other scum and criminal elements, they and some friends and relatives migrated to Texas. They had some black people, some being friends and associates, some former slaves and some had always been free, with their wagon train at first trying to go out there with them. But when they entered North Carolina the people in that region would not allow any blacks to enter that region and they forced all the blacks to turn around and go back to S.C. (All but one wagon driver). After an eventful trek across land and on riverboats, such as having to sleep in their wagons while aboard the river boats armed to the teeth to guard against thieves, and one wheel fell off into the river, they made it to Texas. They went first to Upsur Co., and then finally settled down in Gainesville, Cooke Co., Texas. That particular black wagon driver settled in Uphur Co., Texas. I have his name somewhere (my gr. grandfather wrote a paper in 1935 called, "Reminences of an old Minister" and in it he told a little of that trek).. One son of John and Isabella Jane White was Edward Walker White. He wound up settleing in Amarillo, Texas and married Leota Alice Kirk. He and her brothers opened a store called "White and Kirk" (a general store type thing). Edward also was successful in the mining business, a member, a deacon and elder of the Presbyterian church there, involved in local civic duties and projects there, started the first park in Amarillo, etc., etc.. Here is the list of my great grandfather's siblings, an excerpt from my White file: 1. Ella White(died childhood) 2. *Rev. Wm. Henry White(B.8/20/55-D.10/1/48 in Prattville, Ala.-m-Carolina Hamilton Stenhouse, born12/22/1860-Died 1/11/1944 in Prattville, Ala.. 3. Sally Anna White, B. 1857--D. 10/7/1876 in Cooke Co.,Tex.. -m- Wm. Chandler. 4. Leola AliceWhite, B. 5/22/1859 (died in childhood). 5. Edward Walker White(B. 2/8/1861--D. 6/6/1907.-m- Loeta Kirk, settled in Amarillo, Tex.. Issue:: Fay (mar'd Harry L. Kearns), Johnie ( mar'd Mr. Eislick), Edward Dean White). Edward had a mercantile store in Amarillo, and was into copper mining, etc.. 6. John Lawrence White, B3/?/1863 (died young). You can see where some died in childhood in S.C. and one sister died in Cooke, Co., Tex. in 1876. The other son, Wm. Henry White wound up eventually coming back to S.C. in the 1870s or so, and wound up marrying Carolina Hamilton Stenhouse and went to the Columbia Theological Seminary and became a Presbyterian Minister. He ultimately settled in Prattville, Alabama, dying there in the 1940s. I have pics somewhere around here of him, his brother and his wife, and the children of his brother and sister-n-law, Edward Dean White (I forget at the moment the sister's name). My grandmother always wondered what ever happened to those White relatives of ours that settled in Amarillo. A great Uncle went out there many years ago to find them and reestablish a link with them once again. We have some letters that my great grandfather and his brother in Amarillo wrote back and forth to each other from the mid 1800s to right after the turn fo the century. Once the old ones died off, all contact was lost. I am not sure if my great uncle went to find the Calverts or the Whites in Amarillo. But my great uncle was treated sort of shabbily, like a pest or a bum of some sort, and came back heartbroken, hurt and bitter about it. My dear grandmother and great aunts and uncle went to their graves with a great love for their relatives that had gone to Texas. The way Memaw and them would talk and carry on about them it was as if those relatives had just gone out there not long ago. I wish those lost relatives out there felt the same. Well, I hope I haven't bored you. Take care, Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Heidi Egger" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 2:20 PM Subject: FW: [WHITE] genealogy based question > I'd be interested in knowing if the living relative knows why certain generations moved from one place to another, at least what the family lore is. > > I think it's interesting to see my family's migration to California. My father was helpful in filling in some gaps but I also found the story in a book on prominent people of the county. Also, in a the Humboldt County Historical Society, I found a book written by a great-great-uncle who documented his family's move to California in the 1870's (from the eyes of a child). But no such luck with my White family. We know when they came to California and are presuming why (chance for a better life; a try in the gold fields of 1850's). > > -----Original Message----- > From: glitz [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 8:00 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [WHITE] genealogy based question > > > I am doing a survey here. I want to do an interview. If you had the chance to ask only one question of a living person in your family---what would it be? > > TIA Glitz > > > > ==== WHITE Mailing List ==== > WHITE LIST ADMINISTRATOR > <[email protected]> > > > > > ==== WHITE Mailing List ==== > WHITE LIST ADMINISTRATOR > <[email protected]> >