Virginia Yes this is my family I have them in 1870 also from that census they seem to have started their family around 1858 so Mary was only 17 unless the mother (Mary) in 1870 was not the mother of the older children. Just can't seem to take this Nelson back any farther than that Where were they in 1860 I wonder Christine Hartwell Oregon USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Virginia L. Keefer" <[email protected]> To: "Stephen Hartwell" <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2004 3:33 PM Subject: Re: [WHITE] Nelson H WHITE 1823 > Steve, I don't know how much help this will be but; > found on ancestry.com > 1880 Census, Beaver, Smith Co. Kansas > Nelson H. White, age 57, born VA farmer, parents born VT > Mary age 39 born NY, parents born VT > Ella L. age 7 born Michigan > Leonard A. age 3 born MI. > > LDS Family History Library Film 1254397 > National Archives Film no T9-0397 > page no. 365D > > There was another Leonard A. White married Sarah A. Springer. They had dau. > Isannah Bertha White born 22 June, 1861 Dighton, Bristol Co MA. ???? > > Ginny Keefer no relationship to this family >