My Whites moved from Delaware Co., Ohio to Morgan Co., Missouri about 1840. My line begins with Paul White, born in Rhode Island in 1785-6. He was married to Mary (possibily Wheery, Wherry, etc.). Paul White died about 1870 in Morgan Co. See any links? Trueman Farris. jfarris@execpc.com ----- Original Message ----- From: <white-request@rootsweb.com> To: <white@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 1:06 PM Subject: WHITE Digest, Vol 1, Issue 56 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: other letters (mary dunnam) > 2. The Younger Family (Eva Fulton) > 3. Re: WHITE Digest, Vol 1, Issue 55 (mckinneyb@msnotes.wustl.edu) > 4. Re: William White on Third Creek (Jill F Lackey) > 5. Re: other letters (JWi4194718@aol.com) > 6. Re: The Younger Family (Thomas A Nelson) > 7. Any Whites in Mo. (WTracz@aol.com) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 05:42:08 -0600 > From: "mary dunnam" <dvdmwd@comcast.net> > Subject: Re: [WHITE] other letters > To: <eva@mefulton.com>, <white@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <007201c6fdaa$c5d0f030$19383f44@bucky> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Evans is my mothers line i would love to see the Evans info. Mary WHite > Dunnam > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Eva Fulton" <eva@mefulton.com> > To: <white@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 9:22 AM > Subject: [WHITE] other letters > > >>I have some other interesting letters about Ozment's, Evans, >>Eddings/Eddins, >> Ridley, Morgan, Younger/James/Dalton, and Gillard/Gilliard. Is anyone >> interested in this info? I think I am out of the White Line of letters, >> though I don't know if it helped anyone out or not. >> >> Eva >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> WHITE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 08:06:42 -0600 > From: "Eva Fulton" <eva@mefulton.com> > Subject: [WHITE] The Younger Family > To: <white@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <003c01c6fdbe$f52d2d30$670fa8c0@EVAFULTON> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > The following is a Xerox copy of something that has been printed/typed. I > do not see a source of what it was copied from so please understand that I > can not verify anything on it or refer you to anything other than what the > document says. > > Page 11 > > "The Younger family plays an important part in the early history of the > west. Many legends and myths have been told about them and books were > written about the family. Many of these based on legends. So it is hard > to > determine the difference between facts and fiction. > > Legends are durable things, and are not without value as part of the > folklore of a people. > > On the other hand, I do not subscribe to the school of professional > so-called "debunkers", the truth, yes, but what is the truth? But in the > end of the legends, itself may come nearer the actual truth than the > "debunker" who writes from the dim distance of decades. > > Here we will first deal with the proven, established facts. That the > Younger's, James, and Dalton's were related, either by blood, marriage or > association, and that Cole Younger, and his brothers were the sons of > Harry > and Beersheba (Sullivan) Younger and Harry is the son of Charles and Sarah > (Purcell) Younger. > > Charles Younger - Charles Younger, Will, B-W 524-528, Independence, MO, > Jackson, Co., Nov 11, 1854. Charles Younger deceased record, Apr 7, 1855 > Children of Charles and Sarah (Purcell) Younger: > Harry W. (Henry) Younger, father of Cole, Bob, and Jim Younger > Littleton Younger - > Virgenia Younger - wife of Jacob Creek > Elizabeth D. Younger - wife of Thomas Wood > Lucy S. Younger - wife of Mr. Buster > Adeline S. Younger - wife of Lewis Dalton, parents of Dalton > Bros. > Coleman Younger - Cole Younger was named for his Uncle Coleman > (and grandfather of the notorious outlaw Jonnie Ringo (Ringgold) > > The children of Charles and Sarah Younger, mentioned in Sarah's will, > State > of Missouri and County of Clay, Liberty Court House, Nov 1858, probated > Jan > 11, 1859, will book d, P 240-244 > Virginia, Jacob Creek, Lucy S. Buster, and Henry W. (Harry) > > Where does this Will com in? In the Will it states "Given and bequeath to > Sophia L. Wilson, Charles F. Wilson, Mary L. and Martha L. Jefferson, > Bruce, > Sophronia, my children by Parmelia Wilson, sometimes known as Parmelia > Younger, (bequests specifics omitted) also- slave Elizabeth age 22, and > her > 2 children, Catharine and Simipson, I give the name of Younger. Also > Fanney, between 35 and 45, and her two children Nathan and Washington. > > Harry Younger - son of Charles and Sarah (Purcell) Younger. Married > Beersheba Sullivan, the daughter of Richard and Mary "Polly" Fristoe > Sullivan. Mary Fristoe's father Richard Marshall Fristoe, was one of the > first three Judges appointed in Jackson County, MO. > > The children of Harry and Beersheba Younger - > 1. Laura Younger, born 1830 > 2. Helen Younger, born 1832, married William Kelly > 3. Isabel "Bell" Younger - born 1834 married Richard Hall > 4. Martha Younger - born 1836, married L. Jones > 5. Richard Younger - born 1838 > 6. Josephine Younger - born 1842, married John Janett > 7. Caroline Younger - born 1842, married George Clayton > 8. Thomas Coleman (Cole) Younger - born 1844, died 1916 > 9. Sarah Ann "Sally" Younger 0 born 1845, died 1925, married Jeptha > Duncan > 10. James H., "Jim" Younger - born 1848, died 1902 > 11. John Younger 0 born 1850, killed by Pinkerton, 1874 > 12. Emma Younger, born 1852, died 1900, married Kit Rose > 13. Robert Ewing "Bob" Younger - born 1855, died 1889 > 14. Henrietta "Rett" Younger - born 1856, married Mr. Rollins > > The Younger Bros, Cole, Johm Bob, Jim, and sister Henrietta "Retta" lived > Osccola, St. Clare County, MO. John Younger, killed his first man at age > 14, he was shot and killed by W.J. Allen (Capt Lull) a Pinkerton, Dec Mar > 17, 1874 is buried in the Yeater Cemetary, St. Clare County, MO. > > Cole Younger > Paul I Wellman, in his book "Dynasty of Western Outlaws, claims that the > Younger boys were cousins of the James boys. I am not here to "debunk" > the > claim at this time, but I do think it merits a little more genealogical > research on the families. He also claims that Cole Younger was the father > of Pearl Younger. Pearl, was the daughter of Myra Belle Shirley (Belle > Starr). Cole always denied he was the father. If his denial is true, why > did Belle name her ranch in Oklahoma "Younger Bend"? There is no record > of > their marriage. > > Cliff Robertson, who played the part of Cole Younger in the move "The > Great > Northfield Raid" has this to say "Jesse James would have been a picnic for > any good Psychiatrist", "He was either schizo, or paranoid, or > hyperthyroid", or maybe all three, but he is the one who made the history > books. Cole Younger, Jesse's lieutenant, was completely overlooked. > Cole, > according to Mr. Robertson, had the real vision, and Jesse James was just > an > outlaw. > > This opinion is shared by many of the James historians. Cole was a > natural > leaders. Jesse on the other hand, was a bent character, he was a sadistic > killer with out too many brains, and it's kind of ironic that he got the > credit for the Younger masterminding. (Cole was against the Northfield > raid.) > > Mr. Robertson, sites proof for his acquration, that the James gang never > functioned as a unit after the Northfield, bank robbery or after Cole > Younger was sentence(d) to the Minn. Penitentiary for 25 years for his > part > in the raid. > > Other historians have this to say - "Big and portly Cole Younger, had a > great interest in religion, but a greater interest in banditry. One thing > they most all agree that he was the biggest liar in the county. I am > neutralj, so take your choice. > > Much of the sympathy for the Yougner boys stemmed from the fact that their > father, Henry Washington Younger, had been killed on the old Westport > (Kansas City) Road in Jackson County by ruffians believe to be Kansas > Jayhawkers, lead by Col. Jim Lane. And their mother was forced to set > fire > to her home shortly after. It is true that the Younger's suffered greatly > from the action of those who were against them, but many other families > also > suffered. > > Laurence Kansas > This brings us to the raid by Quantril on Laurence Kansas. Why was this > action taken? Osceola, the county seat of St. Clare County, MO is located > on > the Osage River near the mouth of the Sac River, and near the Kansas > border. > Osceola had been burned and ravished by Col Jim Lane and his Kansas > Jayhawkers, on Sept 23, 1861. And in retaliation, Cole and Jim Younger > had > ridden with Quantril Guerrillas when they destroyed Laurence, the hom town > of Jim Lane (Jim Lane escaped). The objective was to burn Laurence to the > ground, and to kill all the people who lived there. 143 men, women and > children were murdered, and Laurence was burned to the ground. > > Northfield, Minn Robbery > Ref Thomas A. Frazer - the ten men who took part in the robbery were Frank > and Jesse James, Cole, Jimand Bob Younger Cell Miller, Bill Chadwell, > Charlie Pitt. > > (The last page shows a family tree, wanted poster, and photo of Bob, Jim, > Cole, and Retta Younger in a date I can't read} > > Eva > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 08:35:09 -0600 > From: mckinneyb@msnotes.wustl.edu > Subject: Re: [WHITE] WHITE Digest, Vol 1, Issue 55 > To: white@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <OF33C590AC.C48741D2-ON86257219.004FE6C9-86257219.00501F94@msnotes.wustl.edu> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > > I hope this gets threw. > > Ladies and Gentlemen: > > Moses White, who, we think was Adams son, did not die in North Carolina. > That Moses was his son. I have Moses' will in Delaware that lists his > sons. Moses, son of Adam, was a school teacher in Delaware. > > Brian McKinney > mckinneyb@msnotes.wustl.edu > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 08:40:05 -0600 > From: "Jill F Lackey" <jflanthropologist@sbcglobal.net> > Subject: Re: [WHITE] William White on Third Creek > To: <white@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: > <JKEHKHGALFAENOPNBEGKKEKPAPAB.jflanthropologist@sbcglobal.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > Please send me information as well about the neighbors. Does this William > have a brother or son named Andrew and a daughter or sister named > Elizabeth? > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 15:31:36 -0600 > From: "mary dunnam" <dvdmwd@comcast.net> > Subject: Re: [WHITE] William White on Third Creek > To: <white@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <000801c6fd33$fd3ab3c0$19383f44@bucky> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Ginny:Please send me your sources for this info. Mary Dunnam > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Virginia L. (Ginny) Keefer" <ginnykeefer@cox.net> > To: <white@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 8:50 PM > Subject: Re: [WHITE] William White on Third Creek > > > Write to Salisbury,[ Rowan Co NC] Public Library. They have several pages > of > papers that would serve as proof I think.. See if the library is listed > on > the internet. I have a series of books telling exactly who sold to and > when > tracts. I can tell you neighbors names to if interested. > > Also- send me your personal E Mail and I will send you the list of > sources > I used . We are unable to forward on the rootsweb sites. > .?:*??*:?.~* Ginny *~.?:*??*:?. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WHITE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > the subject and the body of the message > > >> > ------------------------------ > > To contact the WHITE list administrator, send an email to > WHITE-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the WHITE mailing list, send an email to > WHITE@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WHITE-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of WHITE Digest, Vol 1, Issue 55 > ************************************ > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 10:26:14 EST > From: JWi4194718@aol.com > Subject: Re: [WHITE] other letters > To: white@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <574.7cb99bae.327a1696@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Eva,what do you have on eddins ,Morgans. > > Debra Maddox Wilson > Greenback,Tn > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 08:52:47 -0700 > From: Thomas A Nelson <tanelson1@juno.com> > Subject: Re: [WHITE] The Younger Family > To: eva@mefulton.com, white@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <20061101.085247.3472.3.tanelson1@juno.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Thanks for posting the Younger information, Eva. > > Interesting as to how the two families may have interacted over the > years, as a branch of the Bruce family was at Laurence, had a hotel by > the river, and were not touched by the gang per the "History of Laurence" > which is posted on the web, as "they had treated the gang members well > when some went ahead of the raid to spy out the town. > > Janet (Bruce) Nelson > > On Wed, 1 Nov 2006 08:06:42 -0600 "Eva Fulton" <eva@mefulton.com> writes: >> The following is a Xerox copy of something that has been >> printed/typed. I >> do not see a source of what it was copied from so please understand >> that I >> can not verify anything on it or refer you to anything other than >> what the >> document says. >> >> Page 11 >> >> "The Younger family plays an important part in the early history of >> the >> west. Many legends and myths have been told about them and books >> were >> written about the family. Many of these based on legends. So it is >> hard to >> determine the difference between facts and fiction. >> >> Legends are durable things, and are not without value as part of >> the >> folklore of a people. >> >> On the other hand, I do not subscribe to the school of professional >> so-called "debunkers", the truth, yes, but what is the truth? But >> in the >> end of the legends, itself may come nearer the actual truth than >> the >> "debunker" who writes from the dim distance of decades. >> >> Here we will first deal with the proven, established facts. That >> the >> Younger's, James, and Dalton's were related, either by blood, >> marriage or >> association, and that Cole Younger, and his brothers were the sons >> of Harry >> and Beersheba (Sullivan) Younger and Harry is the son of Charles and >> Sarah >> (Purcell) Younger. >> >> Charles Younger - Charles Younger, Will, B-W 524-528, Independence, >> MO, >> Jackson, Co., Nov 11, 1854. Charles Younger deceased record, Apr 7, >> 1855 >> Children of Charles and Sarah (Purcell) Younger: >> Harry W. (Henry) Younger, father of Cole, Bob, and Jim >> Younger >> Littleton Younger - >> Virgenia Younger - wife of Jacob Creek >> Elizabeth D. Younger - wife of Thomas Wood >> Lucy S. Younger - wife of Mr. Buster >> Adeline S. Younger - wife of Lewis Dalton, parents of >> Dalton >> Bros. >> Coleman Younger - Cole Younger was named for his Uncle >> Coleman >> (and grandfather of the notorious outlaw Jonnie Ringo (Ringgold) >> >> The children of Charles and Sarah Younger, mentioned in Sarah's >> will, State >> of Missouri and County of Clay, Liberty Court House, Nov 1858, >> probated Jan >> 11, 1859, will book d, P 240-244 >> Virginia, Jacob Creek, Lucy S. Buster, and Henry W. (Harry) >> >> Where does this Will com in? In the Will it states "Given and >> bequeath to >> Sophia L. Wilson, Charles F. Wilson, Mary L. and Martha L. >> Jefferson, Bruce, >> Sophronia, my children by Parmelia Wilson, sometimes known as >> Parmelia >> Younger, (bequests specifics omitted) also- slave Elizabeth age 22, >> and her >> 2 children, Catharine and Simipson, I give the name of Younger. >> Also >> Fanney, between 35 and 45, and her two children Nathan and >> Washington. >> >> Harry Younger - son of Charles and Sarah (Purcell) Younger. >> Married >> Beersheba Sullivan, the daughter of Richard and Mary "Polly" >> Fristoe >> Sullivan. Mary Fristoe's father Richard Marshall Fristoe, was one >> of the >> first three Judges appointed in Jackson County, MO. >> >> The children of Harry and Beersheba Younger - >> 1. Laura Younger, born 1830 >> 2. Helen Younger, born 1832, married William Kelly >> 3. Isabel "Bell" Younger - born 1834 married Richard Hall >> 4. Martha Younger - born 1836, married L. Jones >> 5. Richard Younger - born 1838 >> 6. Josephine Younger - born 1842, married John Janett >> 7. Caroline Younger - born 1842, married George Clayton >> 8. Thomas Coleman (Cole) Younger - born 1844, died 1916 >> 9. Sarah Ann "Sally" Younger 0 born 1845, died 1925, married >> Jeptha >> Duncan >> 10. James H., "Jim" Younger - born 1848, died 1902 >> 11. John Younger 0 born 1850, killed by Pinkerton, 1874 >> 12. Emma Younger, born 1852, died 1900, married Kit Rose >> 13. Robert Ewing "Bob" Younger - born 1855, died 1889 >> 14. Henrietta "Rett" Younger - born 1856, married Mr. Rollins >> >> The Younger Bros, Cole, Johm Bob, Jim, and sister Henrietta "Retta" >> lived >> Osccola, St. Clare County, MO. John Younger, killed his first man >> at age >> 14, he was shot and killed by W.J. Allen (Capt Lull) a Pinkerton, >> Dec Mar >> 17, 1874 is buried in the Yeater Cemetary, St. Clare County, MO. >> >> Cole Younger >> Paul I Wellman, in his book "Dynasty of Western Outlaws, claims that >> the >> Younger boys were cousins of the James boys. I am not here to >> "debunk" the >> claim at this time, but I do think it merits a little more >> genealogical >> research on the families. He also claims that Cole Younger was the >> father >> of Pearl Younger. Pearl, was the daughter of Myra Belle Shirley >> (Belle >> Starr). Cole always denied he was the father. If his denial is >> true, why >> did Belle name her ranch in Oklahoma "Younger Bend"? There is no >> record of >> their marriage. >> >> Cliff Robertson, who played the part of Cole Younger in the move >> "The Great >> Northfield Raid" has this to say "Jesse James would have been a >> picnic for >> any good Psychiatrist", "He was either schizo, or paranoid, or >> hyperthyroid", or maybe all three, but he is the one who made the >> history >> books. Cole Younger, Jesse's lieutenant, was completely overlooked. >> Cole, >> according to Mr. Robertson, had the real vision, and Jesse James was >> just an >> outlaw. >> >> This opinion is shared by many of the James historians. Cole was a >> natural >> leaders. Jesse on the other hand, was a bent character, he was a >> sadistic >> killer with out too many brains, and it's kind of ironic that he got >> the >> credit for the Younger masterminding. (Cole was against the >> Northfield >> raid.) >> >> Mr. Robertson, sites proof for his acquration, that the James gang >> never >> functioned as a unit after the Northfield, bank robbery or after >> Cole >> Younger was sentence(d) to the Minn. Penitentiary for 25 years for >> his part >> in the raid. >> >> Other historians have this to say - "Big and portly Cole Younger, >> had a >> great interest in religion, but a greater interest in banditry. One >> thing >> they most all agree that he was the biggest liar in the county. I >> am >> neutralj, so take your choice. >> >> Much of the sympathy for the Yougner boys stemmed from the fact that >> their >> father, Henry Washington Younger, had been killed on the old >> Westport >> (Kansas City) Road in Jackson County by ruffians believe to be >> Kansas >> Jayhawkers, lead by Col. Jim Lane. And their mother was forced to >> set fire >> to her home shortly after. It is true that the Younger's suffered >> greatly >> from the action of those who were against them, but many other >> families also >> suffered. >> >> Laurence Kansas >> This brings us to the raid by Quantril on Laurence Kansas. Why was >> this >> action taken? Osceola, the county seat of St. Clare County, MO is >> located on >> the Osage River near the mouth of the Sac River, and near the Kansas >> border. >> Osceola had been burned and ravished by Col Jim Lane and his Kansas >> Jayhawkers, on Sept 23, 1861. And in retaliation, Cole and Jim >> Younger had >> ridden with Quantril Guerrillas when they destroyed Laurence, the >> hom town >> of Jim Lane (Jim Lane escaped). The objective was to burn Laurence >> to the >> und, and to kill all the people who lived there. 143 men, women and >> children were murdered, and Laurence was burned to the ground. >> >> Northfield, Minn Robbery >> Ref Thomas A. Frazer - the ten men who took part in the robbery were >> Frank >> and Jesse James, Cole, Jimand Bob Younger Cell Miller, Bill >> Chadwell, >> Charlie Pitt. >> >> (The last page shows a family tree, wanted poster, and photo of Bob, >> Jim, >> Cole, and Retta Younger in a date I can't read} >> >> Eva >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> WHITE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 14:06:16 EST > From: WTracz@aol.com > Subject: [WHITE] Any Whites in Mo. > To: white@rootsweb.com, white-l@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <cc4.1cbcb14.327a4a28@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Would love to hear about any Whites in or around Johnson Co., Mo. or > Lafayette Co., Mo. in the 1850's or 1860's or 1870's or after. It might > help me > find my brick wall. Thanks Winnie > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the WHITE list administrator, send an email to > WHITE-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the WHITE mailing list, send an email to > WHITE@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WHITE-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of WHITE Digest, Vol 1, Issue 56 > ************************************ > >