Just another thought, do you think that Ersby could be a nickname for Ursula? Dates and places are both possibilities. I've written to my distant cousin and I'll let you know where she got her information as soon as I hear from her. Have a great day. I'm going to work and think positive thoughts that we've made a connection. Carol -----Original Message----- From: VTalghani@aol.com <VTalghani@aol.com> To: WHITE-L@rootsweb.com <WHITE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, February 15, 2000 11:48 PM Subject: Re: [WHITE] new subscriber >Dear Carol, >My Elisha b. 1797 S.C. is buried at Liberty Hill Cemetery in Athens, TN. He >owned property in Polk, Monroe and McMinn counties. These are his 12 >children: >1. John (my ancestor) b. 1818, SC (probably Greenville) > m.1. Mary Ann Smith > m.2.Mary McCarroll > m.3.Elizabeth Teague > m.4.Sarah Saffell >2. Jesse b. 1820, SC m.Susan >3. Elizabeth b. 1822, SC m. Mathew Mattocks >4. William b. 1824, SC m. Susan >5. Narcissa b. 1825, NC m James Benton >6. Daniel J. b. 1828, TN m. Mary Louise Pace >7. Nancy Caroline b. TN, m. Wm. Johnson >8. Martha b. 1835, TN m. Preston Bates > Elisha m.2.Ursula Cloud >9. Mary Ann b. 1840, TN >10. Henry H. b. 1842, TN m. Fannie MIller >11. Newton J. B. 1846, TN >12. Tempy B. 1848, TN > ># 9 Martha could she be the one you are talking about? These dates are >mostly from census records. Let me know what you think. I have lots more >information. >Kathy >