I have a William Andrew White born 1853 in Richland or Crawford Co. OH; he had a brother George White born 1865; maybe your Elmer Ellsworth White was a brother? The ages seem appropriate. William had a son Harry Ellsworth White b. 1889 (coincidence? or named after Elmer Ellsworth?) What do you think? Gay Hoffman cgh@pbandg.com -----Original Message----- From: Emom4leg@aol.com [mailto:Emom4leg@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2000 9:12 PM To: WHITE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [WHITE] Elmer Ellsworth White/A.B. White I have found another clue to the identity of my greatgrandfather Elmer Ellsworth White. In a closet I found a cane with this inscribed on the gold colored knob of it: Dr. A.B. White from Mrs. J. L. Adams 1884. The family story of this cane is that it belonged to the guardian of Elmer Ellsworth White. Nothing else is known about this guardian including when and where he became Elmer's guardian (if that is true). The Only things I know about my Elmer Ellsworth White is that his son's affidavit of birth indicates he was born in 1866 in Mansfield Ohio, he was married 03 Jul 1892 in Moscow Idaho to Minnie Louise Cromwell though residences of both listed as Colfax, Wa. Elmer died in Portland Or. 1905 and is buried in Lonefir Cemetary in Portland Or. The state of Or. can't find his death certificate and his marr. cert. does not list parents. Currently working on getting ahold of his birth records but just a year and not a specific date makes it almost impossible. The other obvious question that also pops up is that was he born with a different last name and then took on his guardian's name? Would appreciate any suggestions or any information on A.B. White (Dr.) that anyone might have. Thank you Ellen White