Thanks for posting the Younger information, Eva. Interesting as to how the two families may have interacted over the years, as a branch of the Bruce family was at Laurence, had a hotel by the river, and were not touched by the gang per the "History of Laurence" which is posted on the web, as "they had treated the gang members well when some went ahead of the raid to spy out the town. Janet (Bruce) Nelson On Wed, 1 Nov 2006 08:06:42 -0600 "Eva Fulton" <eva@mefulton.com> writes: > The following is a Xerox copy of something that has been > printed/typed. I > do not see a source of what it was copied from so please understand > that I > can not verify anything on it or refer you to anything other than > what the > document says. > > Page 11 > > "The Younger family plays an important part in the early history of > the > west. Many legends and myths have been told about them and books > were > written about the family. Many of these based on legends. So it is > hard to > determine the difference between facts and fiction. > > Legends are durable things, and are not without value as part of > the > folklore of a people. > > On the other hand, I do not subscribe to the school of professional > so-called "debunkers", the truth, yes, but what is the truth? But > in the > end of the legends, itself may come nearer the actual truth than > the > "debunker" who writes from the dim distance of decades. > > Here we will first deal with the proven, established facts. That > the > Younger's, James, and Dalton's were related, either by blood, > marriage or > association, and that Cole Younger, and his brothers were the sons > of Harry > and Beersheba (Sullivan) Younger and Harry is the son of Charles and > Sarah > (Purcell) Younger. > > Charles Younger - Charles Younger, Will, B-W 524-528, Independence, > MO, > Jackson, Co., Nov 11, 1854. Charles Younger deceased record, Apr 7, > 1855 > Children of Charles and Sarah (Purcell) Younger: > Harry W. (Henry) Younger, father of Cole, Bob, and Jim > Younger > Littleton Younger - > Virgenia Younger - wife of Jacob Creek > Elizabeth D. Younger - wife of Thomas Wood > Lucy S. Younger - wife of Mr. Buster > Adeline S. Younger - wife of Lewis Dalton, parents of > Dalton > Bros. > Coleman Younger - Cole Younger was named for his Uncle > Coleman > (and grandfather of the notorious outlaw Jonnie Ringo (Ringgold) > > The children of Charles and Sarah Younger, mentioned in Sarah's > will, State > of Missouri and County of Clay, Liberty Court House, Nov 1858, > probated Jan > 11, 1859, will book d, P 240-244 > Virginia, Jacob Creek, Lucy S. Buster, and Henry W. (Harry) > > Where does this Will com in? In the Will it states "Given and > bequeath to > Sophia L. Wilson, Charles F. Wilson, Mary L. and Martha L. > Jefferson, Bruce, > Sophronia, my children by Parmelia Wilson, sometimes known as > Parmelia > Younger, (bequests specifics omitted) also- slave Elizabeth age 22, > and her > 2 children, Catharine and Simipson, I give the name of Younger. > Also > Fanney, between 35 and 45, and her two children Nathan and > Washington. > > Harry Younger - son of Charles and Sarah (Purcell) Younger. > Married > Beersheba Sullivan, the daughter of Richard and Mary "Polly" > Fristoe > Sullivan. Mary Fristoe's father Richard Marshall Fristoe, was one > of the > first three Judges appointed in Jackson County, MO. > > The children of Harry and Beersheba Younger - > 1. Laura Younger, born 1830 > 2. Helen Younger, born 1832, married William Kelly > 3. Isabel "Bell" Younger - born 1834 married Richard Hall > 4. Martha Younger - born 1836, married L. Jones > 5. Richard Younger - born 1838 > 6. Josephine Younger - born 1842, married John Janett > 7. Caroline Younger - born 1842, married George Clayton > 8. Thomas Coleman (Cole) Younger - born 1844, died 1916 > 9. Sarah Ann "Sally" Younger 0 born 1845, died 1925, married > Jeptha > Duncan > 10. James H., "Jim" Younger - born 1848, died 1902 > 11. John Younger 0 born 1850, killed by Pinkerton, 1874 > 12. Emma Younger, born 1852, died 1900, married Kit Rose > 13. Robert Ewing "Bob" Younger - born 1855, died 1889 > 14. Henrietta "Rett" Younger - born 1856, married Mr. Rollins > > The Younger Bros, Cole, Johm Bob, Jim, and sister Henrietta "Retta" > lived > Osccola, St. Clare County, MO. John Younger, killed his first man > at age > 14, he was shot and killed by W.J. Allen (Capt Lull) a Pinkerton, > Dec Mar > 17, 1874 is buried in the Yeater Cemetary, St. Clare County, MO. > > Cole Younger > Paul I Wellman, in his book "Dynasty of Western Outlaws, claims that > the > Younger boys were cousins of the James boys. I am not here to > "debunk" the > claim at this time, but I do think it merits a little more > genealogical > research on the families. He also claims that Cole Younger was the > father > of Pearl Younger. Pearl, was the daughter of Myra Belle Shirley > (Belle > Starr). Cole always denied he was the father. If his denial is > true, why > did Belle name her ranch in Oklahoma "Younger Bend"? There is no > record of > their marriage. > > Cliff Robertson, who played the part of Cole Younger in the move > "The Great > Northfield Raid" has this to say "Jesse James would have been a > picnic for > any good Psychiatrist", "He was either schizo, or paranoid, or > hyperthyroid", or maybe all three, but he is the one who made the > history > books. Cole Younger, Jesse's lieutenant, was completely overlooked. > Cole, > according to Mr. Robertson, had the real vision, and Jesse James was > just an > outlaw. > > This opinion is shared by many of the James historians. Cole was a > natural > leaders. Jesse on the other hand, was a bent character, he was a > sadistic > killer with out too many brains, and it's kind of ironic that he got > the > credit for the Younger masterminding. (Cole was against the > Northfield > raid.) > > Mr. Robertson, sites proof for his acquration, that the James gang > never > functioned as a unit after the Northfield, bank robbery or after > Cole > Younger was sentence(d) to the Minn. Penitentiary for 25 years for > his part > in the raid. > > Other historians have this to say - "Big and portly Cole Younger, > had a > great interest in religion, but a greater interest in banditry. One > thing > they most all agree that he was the biggest liar in the county. I > am > neutralj, so take your choice. > > Much of the sympathy for the Yougner boys stemmed from the fact that > their > father, Henry Washington Younger, had been killed on the old > Westport > (Kansas City) Road in Jackson County by ruffians believe to be > Kansas > Jayhawkers, lead by Col. Jim Lane. And their mother was forced to > set fire > to her home shortly after. It is true that the Younger's suffered > greatly > from the action of those who were against them, but many other > families also > suffered. > > Laurence Kansas > This brings us to the raid by Quantril on Laurence Kansas. Why was > this > action taken? Osceola, the county seat of St. Clare County, MO is > located on > the Osage River near the mouth of the Sac River, and near the Kansas > border. > Osceola had been burned and ravished by Col Jim Lane and his Kansas > Jayhawkers, on Sept 23, 1861. And in retaliation, Cole and Jim > Younger had > ridden with Quantril Guerrillas when they destroyed Laurence, the > hom town > of Jim Lane (Jim Lane escaped). The objective was to burn Laurence > to the > und, and to kill all the people who lived there. 143 men, women and > children were murdered, and Laurence was burned to the ground. > > Northfield, Minn Robbery > Ref Thomas A. Frazer - the ten men who took part in the robbery were > Frank > and Jesse James, Cole, Jimand Bob Younger Cell Miller, Bill > Chadwell, > Charlie Pitt. > > (The last page shows a family tree, wanted poster, and photo of Bob, > Jim, > Cole, and Retta Younger in a date I can't read} > > Eva > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WHITE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Please send me information as well about the neighbors. Does this William have a brother or son named Andrew and a daughter or sister named Elizabeth? ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 15:31:36 -0600 From: "mary dunnam" <dvdmwd@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [WHITE] William White on Third Creek To: <white@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <000801c6fd33$fd3ab3c0$19383f44@bucky> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Ginny:Please send me your sources for this info. Mary Dunnam ----- Original Message ----- From: "Virginia L. (Ginny) Keefer" <ginnykeefer@cox.net> To: <white@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 8:50 PM Subject: Re: [WHITE] William White on Third Creek Write to Salisbury,[ Rowan Co NC] Public Library. They have several pages of papers that would serve as proof I think.. See if the library is listed on the internet. I have a series of books telling exactly who sold to and when tracts. I can tell you neighbors names to if interested. Also- send me your personal E Mail and I will send you the list of sources I used . We are unable to forward on the rootsweb sites. .?:*??*:?.~* Ginny *~.?:*??*:?. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WHITE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------ To contact the WHITE list administrator, send an email to WHITE-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the WHITE mailing list, send an email to WHITE@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WHITE-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of WHITE Digest, Vol 1, Issue 55 ************************************

I hope this gets threw. Ladies and Gentlemen: Moses White, who, we think was Adams son, did not die in North Carolina. That Moses was his son. I have Moses' will in Delaware that lists his sons. Moses, son of Adam, was a school teacher in Delaware. Brian McKinney mckinneyb@msnotes.wustl.edu

The following is a Xerox copy of something that has been printed/typed. I do not see a source of what it was copied from so please understand that I can not verify anything on it or refer you to anything other than what the document says. Page 11 "The Younger family plays an important part in the early history of the west. Many legends and myths have been told about them and books were written about the family. Many of these based on legends. So it is hard to determine the difference between facts and fiction. Legends are durable things, and are not without value as part of the folklore of a people. On the other hand, I do not subscribe to the school of professional so-called "debunkers", the truth, yes, but what is the truth? But in the end of the legends, itself may come nearer the actual truth than the "debunker" who writes from the dim distance of decades. Here we will first deal with the proven, established facts. That the Younger's, James, and Dalton's were related, either by blood, marriage or association, and that Cole Younger, and his brothers were the sons of Harry and Beersheba (Sullivan) Younger and Harry is the son of Charles and Sarah (Purcell) Younger. Charles Younger - Charles Younger, Will, B-W 524-528, Independence, MO, Jackson, Co., Nov 11, 1854. Charles Younger deceased record, Apr 7, 1855 Children of Charles and Sarah (Purcell) Younger: Harry W. (Henry) Younger, father of Cole, Bob, and Jim Younger Littleton Younger - Virgenia Younger - wife of Jacob Creek Elizabeth D. Younger - wife of Thomas Wood Lucy S. Younger - wife of Mr. Buster Adeline S. Younger - wife of Lewis Dalton, parents of Dalton Bros. Coleman Younger - Cole Younger was named for his Uncle Coleman (and grandfather of the notorious outlaw Jonnie Ringo (Ringgold) The children of Charles and Sarah Younger, mentioned in Sarah's will, State of Missouri and County of Clay, Liberty Court House, Nov 1858, probated Jan 11, 1859, will book d, P 240-244 Virginia, Jacob Creek, Lucy S. Buster, and Henry W. (Harry) Where does this Will com in? In the Will it states "Given and bequeath to Sophia L. Wilson, Charles F. Wilson, Mary L. and Martha L. Jefferson, Bruce, Sophronia, my children by Parmelia Wilson, sometimes known as Parmelia Younger, (bequests specifics omitted) also- slave Elizabeth age 22, and her 2 children, Catharine and Simipson, I give the name of Younger. Also Fanney, between 35 and 45, and her two children Nathan and Washington. Harry Younger - son of Charles and Sarah (Purcell) Younger. Married Beersheba Sullivan, the daughter of Richard and Mary "Polly" Fristoe Sullivan. Mary Fristoe's father Richard Marshall Fristoe, was one of the first three Judges appointed in Jackson County, MO. The children of Harry and Beersheba Younger - 1. Laura Younger, born 1830 2. Helen Younger, born 1832, married William Kelly 3. Isabel "Bell" Younger - born 1834 married Richard Hall 4. Martha Younger - born 1836, married L. Jones 5. Richard Younger - born 1838 6. Josephine Younger - born 1842, married John Janett 7. Caroline Younger - born 1842, married George Clayton 8. Thomas Coleman (Cole) Younger - born 1844, died 1916 9. Sarah Ann "Sally" Younger 0 born 1845, died 1925, married Jeptha Duncan 10. James H., "Jim" Younger - born 1848, died 1902 11. John Younger 0 born 1850, killed by Pinkerton, 1874 12. Emma Younger, born 1852, died 1900, married Kit Rose 13. Robert Ewing "Bob" Younger - born 1855, died 1889 14. Henrietta "Rett" Younger - born 1856, married Mr. Rollins The Younger Bros, Cole, Johm Bob, Jim, and sister Henrietta "Retta" lived Osccola, St. Clare County, MO. John Younger, killed his first man at age 14, he was shot and killed by W.J. Allen (Capt Lull) a Pinkerton, Dec Mar 17, 1874 is buried in the Yeater Cemetary, St. Clare County, MO. Cole Younger Paul I Wellman, in his book "Dynasty of Western Outlaws, claims that the Younger boys were cousins of the James boys. I am not here to "debunk" the claim at this time, but I do think it merits a little more genealogical research on the families. He also claims that Cole Younger was the father of Pearl Younger. Pearl, was the daughter of Myra Belle Shirley (Belle Starr). Cole always denied he was the father. If his denial is true, why did Belle name her ranch in Oklahoma "Younger Bend"? There is no record of their marriage. Cliff Robertson, who played the part of Cole Younger in the move "The Great Northfield Raid" has this to say "Jesse James would have been a picnic for any good Psychiatrist", "He was either schizo, or paranoid, or hyperthyroid", or maybe all three, but he is the one who made the history books. Cole Younger, Jesse's lieutenant, was completely overlooked. Cole, according to Mr. Robertson, had the real vision, and Jesse James was just an outlaw. This opinion is shared by many of the James historians. Cole was a natural leaders. Jesse on the other hand, was a bent character, he was a sadistic killer with out too many brains, and it's kind of ironic that he got the credit for the Younger masterminding. (Cole was against the Northfield raid.) Mr. Robertson, sites proof for his acquration, that the James gang never functioned as a unit after the Northfield, bank robbery or after Cole Younger was sentence(d) to the Minn. Penitentiary for 25 years for his part in the raid. Other historians have this to say - "Big and portly Cole Younger, had a great interest in religion, but a greater interest in banditry. One thing they most all agree that he was the biggest liar in the county. I am neutralj, so take your choice. Much of the sympathy for the Yougner boys stemmed from the fact that their father, Henry Washington Younger, had been killed on the old Westport (Kansas City) Road in Jackson County by ruffians believe to be Kansas Jayhawkers, lead by Col. Jim Lane. And their mother was forced to set fire to her home shortly after. It is true that the Younger's suffered greatly from the action of those who were against them, but many other families also suffered. Laurence Kansas This brings us to the raid by Quantril on Laurence Kansas. Why was this action taken? Osceola, the county seat of St. Clare County, MO is located on the Osage River near the mouth of the Sac River, and near the Kansas border. Osceola had been burned and ravished by Col Jim Lane and his Kansas Jayhawkers, on Sept 23, 1861. And in retaliation, Cole and Jim Younger had ridden with Quantril Guerrillas when they destroyed Laurence, the hom town of Jim Lane (Jim Lane escaped). The objective was to burn Laurence to the ground, and to kill all the people who lived there. 143 men, women and children were murdered, and Laurence was burned to the ground. Northfield, Minn Robbery Ref Thomas A. Frazer - the ten men who took part in the robbery were Frank and Jesse James, Cole, Jimand Bob Younger Cell Miller, Bill Chadwell, Charlie Pitt. (The last page shows a family tree, wanted poster, and photo of Bob, Jim, Cole, and Retta Younger in a date I can't read} Eva

Evans is my mothers line i would love to see the Evans info. Mary WHite Dunnam ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eva Fulton" <eva@mefulton.com> To: <white@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 9:22 AM Subject: [WHITE] other letters >I have some other interesting letters about Ozment's, Evans, >Eddings/Eddins, > Ridley, Morgan, Younger/James/Dalton, and Gillard/Gilliard. Is anyone > interested in this info? I think I am out of the White Line of letters, > though I don't know if it helped anyone out or not. > > Eva > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WHITE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Is there any idea, or reality, that this Jack county John White is related to the John White who was the agriculture commissioner for Texas and later the Democratic National Committee chairman? His family is from that area, including adjacent Clay county Texas. If so, please, let's collaborate our common information. Richard Brock Linda Jenkins wrote: >I'm searching for a John J. White b. about 1821 in NC and married to >Julia Ann Gibson b. Arkansas. John died 1870 in Jack Co., TX. >Thanks. > > >Subject: [WHITE] NC Whites > >Anybody claim these Whites? > > > >White, Edwin, 1799, NC > >White, Elizabeth, 1800, NC > >*White, John, 1825, NC > >White Anny, 1829, NC > >White, Elizabeth, 1831, IND > >White, William, 1835, IND > >White, Jacob, 1836, IND > >White, Abraham, 1839, IND > >White, Thirza, 1843, IND > > > >*White, John, 1825, NC > >White, Mary, 1829, KY > >**White, Edwin R., 1846, IA > >White, William, 1848, IA > >White, George, Dec. 1849, IA > >White, Mary J., 1852, IA > >White, Calvin, 1854, IA > >White, John M., 1856, IA > >White, Albert, 1859, IA > >White, Eliza, 1861, IA > >White, Sue, 1863, IA > >White, Silly M., 1866, IA > >White, Charles, Sept. 1869, MO > > > >**White, Edwin R., 1846, IA > >White, Adaline, 1848, IA > >White, Lizzie V. 1872, IA (Adaline's daughter by a previous marriage.) > >White, Samuel M. 1876, IA > >White, Zora Jane, 1878, KS (My maternal grandmother) > >White, Cora May, Apr. 1880, KS > >White, William, 1881, KS > > > >Dorothy > > > > -- R. W. Brock

Does anyone have information on the Thomas White & Lucy Traylor listed in the Rowan County Marriages below for 10 Nov 1818? I'm trying to verify they were parents of B. F. (Benjamin Franklin) White, b. 25 Nov 1818. B.F. wrote a note about his Grandparents William Traylor & Elizabeth "Betsy" Elles. Said they came from Virginia to Salisbury NC and then to Tennessee around 1823. The following is the information from Lincoln & Giles Co., TN: 1840 Census, Giles County, Tennessee. Page 123.White, Thos. 1 M 15-20, 1 M 50-60; 1 F 5-10, 2 F 10-15, 1 F 15-20, 1 F 40-50. 1840 Census, Lincoln County, Tennessee. White, Franklin 1 M 20-30; 1 F 20-30. 1850 Census, Giles Co. Thomas 63, Wife Lucinda 57, Children: Elizabeth 21, Lucinda 19, Frances M. 16. NC-VA GI 1324-997. 1850 Census, Lincoln Co. Tennessee. Taken Nov 7, 1850. MF M432-887, Subdivision 1, page 356, line 25. 986/986 White, Franklin, age 33 b. TN, farmer, value of real estate $1000. Wife Martha, age 32, b. TN. Children: Thomas G. 11, William 8, John J. 4, Mary 2. Thomas probably died before 1860 as the census shows Lucy, age 65 living with son B.F. and family.) 1860 Census Giles Co., TN. MF M653-1251 Northern Subdivision, Lynnville P.O., page 79, line 28. 1108/1108 White, D.F. age 41, farmer value 2500/1000 b. NC. Wife Martha A. 40, b. NC. Children: James 19, Wm. 17, John 16, Mary F. 11, Sarah J. 7, Martha O. 3, Amanda J. 3, shows all born in NC. Mary & Sarah attended school. Also living with them was Lucy White, age 65 , domestic b. VA. p. 16 Monday, November 5, 1865. Letter of administration granted to Coleman White on the estate of James White. He gave bond of $500, with Thomas White, his security. p. 100 Monday, May 6, 1867. A certified copy of a decree from Chancery Court in the cause of Thomas White and others vs. John T. White and others, that the last will and testament of Elisha White was duly probated and recorded in County Court. The original will together with the probate and the second of it has been lost or destroyed. The copy of the will with this decree be certified to county court and recorded in Will Book. Ordered to be recorded. 1870 Census, Giles Co., Tennessee. MF M593-1529. Civil District #10, Bradshaw PO. Taken June 24, 1870. Page 210, line 31. 153/153 White, B.F., age 53 b. TN, farmer, value of real estate 2000/1300. Wife Martha A., age 51 b. TN, keeping house. Children: Sarah I. 18, Martha A. 12, Allis L. 7. Also living with the family was Sterling Garrett, age 18 and Robert Carpenter 8. Both were farm labor. Living next to the family were 152/152 Lemmon, C.W., age 22 b. TN. Farmer, value 1560/650. Wife Mary F., age 21. Children: Della 2 and Willis B. 5 mos. 1880 Census, Giles Co. TN Civil District #10, June 5, Film #T9-1257, page 200. SD 3 ED 103, line 25. 70/70 White, Frank, head age 60, widowed, retired farmer. B. NC, Parents NC & VA. Living with him were: Hardison, Richard, son-in-law age 33, farmer. B. TN, Parents TN & VA. Wife Irene, (Franks daughter), age 23, b. TN, indicated both parents were born in TN(?), Carrie E., age 1 granddaughter. White, Alice L., age 18, b. TN. She indicated her parents were b. NC & TN. 72/72 White, John J. age 33 with wife & three children. (See under individual for additional info) Thank you, Susan Hensley 1790 Rowan Co. NC Federal Census WHITE, David 1 1 2 0 0 1557 WHITE, Isaac" 1 1 2 0 0 1567 WHITE, James" 1 0 3 0 0 1566 WHITE, Thomas" 1 4 3 0 0 478 WHITE, William" 2 0 4 0 3 348 1759 ROWAN COUNTY, NC. TAX LIST Moses WHITE, constable. ROWAN COUNTY, NC - WILLS - PROBATE: Index to Testators, Volume A (1757-1778) No White's listed Index to Testators, Volume B (1776-1798) WHITE, JAMES * B-17 Index to Testators, Volume C (1780-1807) WHITE, MOSES * C-115 Index to Testators, Volume D (1784-1806) WHITE, MOSES * D-259 WHITE, THOMAS * D-271 Index to Testators, Volume E (1789-1807) No White's listed Testators Index, Volume F (1795-1807) No White's listed Index to Testators, Volume G (1797-1819) WHITE, HENRY * G-534 WIATT, JOHN * G-453 Index to Testators, Volume H (1819-1836) No White's listed Index to Testators, Volume I (1837-1845) No White's listed Index to Testators, Volume K (1845-1866) No White's listed Marriages White, Thomas married Traylor, Lucy 10 Nov 1818 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WHITE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

James, thank you for your response. I will gladly take any information you may have. I know that JOHN FRANCIS STEWART and his brother WILEY L STEWART had land grants in Frio Co Texas. WILEY L STEWART moved from Gonzales Co to Frio but I have not any evidence that JOHN FRANCIS STEWART did the same. JOHN FRANCIS & WILEY L. are the s/o's of WILEY B & ELIZABETH WHITE STEWART. Regenia Campbell bobnregi@verizon.net

I am looking for descendants of Luther R White (b. 1854) who lived at 882 N 42nd Street in Philadelphia in 1900. He was a brother to my ggrandfather Jacob F White and his family may have some family tree information. Thank you. Richard White UT ----- Original Message ----- From: "Virginia L. (Ginny) Keefer" <ginnykeefer@cox.net> To: <white@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2006 10:35 AM Subject: Re: [WHITE] Non-White discussion suggestion Try for queries and discussion ; http://genforum.genealogy.com/white/ That site is used for both surname and place. Interesting info available there. .·:*¨¨*:·.~* Ginny *~.·:*¨¨*:·. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WHITE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Ginny:Please send me your sources for this info. Mary Dunnam ----- Original Message ----- From: "Virginia L. (Ginny) Keefer" <ginnykeefer@cox.net> To: <white@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 8:50 PM Subject: Re: [WHITE] William White on Third Creek Write to Salisbury,[ Rowan Co NC] Public Library. They have several pages of papers that would serve as proof I think.. See if the library is listed on the internet. I have a series of books telling exactly who sold to and when tracts. I can tell you neighbors names to if interested. Also- send me your personal E Mail and I will send you the list of sources I used . We are unable to forward on the rootsweb sites. .·:*¨¨*:·.~* Ginny *~.·:*¨¨*:·. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WHITE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Ginny: Tanks so much for the information. It may turn out to be very useful for me. Do you know any more about Joseph Sr. b. 1810? What do you think of the gap between his birth and that of his brothers? Do you have any information on his children? Richard White Utah ----- Original Message ----- From: "Virginia L. (Ginny) Keefer" <ginnykeefer@cox.net> To: <white@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 9:05 PM Subject: Re: [WHITE] whites of Chester Co PA Richard, Not my line but I collected data some time ago hoping they might be. As I understand the story, Adam was forced to leave Ireland [ he may have went to Ireland from Scotland] because of him getting in trouble with the powers that be in religion. I only know of two sons for him?. 1. ** Moses married 17 Sept 1724 to Mary Campbell [ prob son of Andrew] in Old Swedes Church, New Castle, DE. 2. **Hugh b ca 1665 d 1741 Little Chickaslunga, Lancaster PA. {Chester and Lancaster were same place at one time]. Hugh married Isabella Cochran. **Moses and Mary Campbell ch: 1. Moses b ca 1725 2. Stephanus [found some places as Stephen] b ca 1726, md Anna Ross 3, Carolus [ found as Charles some places] b Aug 1727 , New Castle, DE, d 27 Feb, ____ Wilmington, DE, md 25 Feb 1753 PA to Margareta Van Culen. 4. Joseph Sr. b ca 1710, d 11 Feb 1808 DE, md 1st Elizabeth Leeth, md 2nd Margaret Leeth Carolus info found in LDS library book area W582wde by David Ellison White, 1995. This family lived in PA and relocated to NC ca 1750. Allied families include; Brown, Beeman, Bray, Erwin, McSwain, Andrews, Baccus, Gowin, Dodd, Rubottom, Avery, Rutherford , Smith and many others. Above book contains a number of family histories. Some cover almost 200 years. Go to your local Latter Day Saints Family History Center to order a loan of this book if interested. Very reasonable. According to Andrews family information, brothers; Stephanus and Carolus moved from DE to Lancaster Co PA and settled near Phila where they worked as shoemakers. Carolus/Charles later moved to Orange Co NC in 1760, Stephanus relocated there in 1761 but did not like the land and ended up at Haw Field in Currently called Alamance Co NC. Carolus/Charles White Dr. b Aug 1727 married Margareta Van Culen, [dau. of Regner Von Culen and Annika Skaggan]. Their ch were said to be; 1. David b ca 1754, d 1881 NC 2. John b ca 1755, d NC 3. Susannah b ca 1756, md Benjamin Brown 4. Hannah b 26 Nov 1758, d Sept 1774 NC 5. Stephan b 25 Mar 1755 , d 1829 NC, md Mary Rushton 6. Ann b ca 1760 md Thomas Andrews 7. Charles Jr. b ca 1770, d ca 1848 TN, md Leah Rubottom 8. Jesse b ca 1774, d ca 1824 TN, md Elizabeth Culin 9. Joseph b ca 1778 Pendleton Dist. Orange Co NC, d 1840 Madison, buried at Newbern Cem in Jersey Co IL., Joe md 1799 in Chatham Co NC to Elizabeth Self. Moses White [ son of Adam] b ca 1719, d 14 June 1783 Rowan Co NC, md Eleanor Lawson. Ch said to be; 1. Robert b ca 1729 Lancaster Co PA 2. John b ca 1733 " 3. Moses III b ca 1745 ", died ca 1786 md Mary Givens. 4. Eleanor **Hugh, [son of Adam] b ca 1665, d 1741 Little Chickaslunga, Lancaster Co PA. married Isabella Cochran. Ch said to be; 1. John 2. Henry b Rapho Twp. Lancaster Co PA, d prob Rowan Co NC, md Johanna Lots about Henry available 3. Hugh b ca 1737 Dauphin Co PA, d 1822, md 1st Margaret Allison, md 2nd Charlotte Weitzel. Packed some place, I have several pages about these families sent by request to me from Salisbury Public Library, Rowan Co NC. ** Abstracts of the Deeds of Rowan Co NC 1753-1785, p 38 4:602 21 Dec 1761 Granville to William McKnight for 10 sh sterl, 480 A on Third Creek adj. William White, James Coupland [Copeland?], Wm. Gibbon. Prvd. Jan Court 1762. Notice above that I have not collected any info about William White who obviously was a brother to Hugh and Moses. There were many of this clan living on or near Third Creek in western end of NC in mid 1700's. ***** If anyone reading this can make additions and/or corrections to above material, please send them to this White site.- NOT to me. I do not wish to mislead anyone on actual facts of this family. They are NOT my line so I have NOT proven any of this. If any appear to be someone's family, please send request to above Salisbury Library for more info. They have it. Happy Hunting. .·:*¨¨*:·.~* Ginny *~.·:*¨¨*:·. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WHITE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This was copied and put into a letter to my mother - List of John Jasper Ozment and family, wife and 9 children with ages and birthplace. Book - Mo. Pioneers Vol 3 Richard Fristoe, will dated 16 Dec 1845 m. Sally L. Fristoe, Children: Bersheba L. Younger Lavinia M. Harris Mary Ann Tolly Thomas I. Fristoe Nancy D. Campbell Francis C. Fristoe Administrators: Polly I. Fristoe & Thomas J. Fristoe. Absract of Orange Co, NC- Wills (cont) Power of Attorney from John Morgan to "Trusty Friend" John Grant Rencher to manage his plantation. He speaks of "my children" but they are not named. Dtd 3 Mar 1791 Wit: Henry (X) Sears Jacob Flowers Mark Morgan Deed of Gift from Mark Morgan to "Three Sons", Mark, John, Solomon - for love, certain tracts of land dtd 31 May 1792, witness: John Scott, Phillip Allan, Albert Sears, William Goodwin Will of Henry Sears dtd 8 Nov 1768, wit: Mark Morgan Will of Aaron Von Hook dtd 10 May 1760, wit: Thomas Morgan Eva

Syracuse, NY March 7, 1977 " I have worked on the Perdue, Perdew, Purdue, etc surname for the past seven years. Perdue was my maiden name but until I began a search for my ancestry in 1970, I never knew another family with the name Perdue. Of course, I had heard many stories & legends - some started out to be erroneous but others fell into place and I will be glad to do anything that I can to help you. However, none of the names in your background are familiar to me, that is history wise. I do own a number of census records, mostly the 1880 soundex and will be glad to search my books for a connection. In the meantime - I hope that you will write a brief history of your ancestors - telling me where they lived (states) and whatever else you can about them. To date - I have not filled out any family sheets but am happy to give you my lineage. My gr.gr.gr.grandfather, Meshack Perdue, born circa 1755 moved to Franklin County, VA and died there in 1838. He was married to Eleanor Dillon, dau. Of James. His son was my gr. Gr. Grandfather, Isaiah, who md. Mildred Wingo - dau. Of James and Catherine Wingo. Isaiah's son was my gr. Grandfather, John Meadows Perdue, b. 1816 md. Mary (Polly) Ward, dau. Of Dr. Asa Ward and Susan Sink (Zinke - a German name). John Meadows and Mary (Polly) Ward Perdue migrated to Wayne County., W.Va. and my grandfather, Dewitt Clinto(n) Perdue & my father, Dewitt T. Perdue, were born there but migrated to Ashland, KY about 1881. (This is Boyd County, KY) and I was born there in 1921. I do know of several other who might be of help to you. Just brief us a little with whatever you have and we will see if we might be able to locate your Susan. Most Sincerely, Sherie (Perdue) Meola" Eva

I know this info is slightly off track from the White’s but since many of them were co-located this would help me on my search…It is interesting reading nonetheless. I hope you all don’t mind but may be of help to someone out there. This is a page copied and indexed from an existing book – unknown name. “In 1760 the father of James Henry (6 yrs old), his father Robert Ozment and William Anderson Ozment (4 yrs old) moved his family to France. An aunt of James and William, named Elizabeth, had married William Edding. They had a son, William, called Billy. When James was 22 yrs old, the American Revolution broke out. James, Billy Edding and William came to America with General Lafayette. When the war was over, they deserted him and wouldn’t go back to France. Billy Edding married Indian Chief Keoto’s oldest dau. White Fawn or Elizabeth. James married one of the Chief’s brothers daughters named Martha Arden. Billy had 13 daughters. James had 1 dau, r4 sons. Dau named was Martha Loucille. Sons were James Jr., Alfred, John L. and Richard. James Jr. married Elizabeth Edding Alfred Nancy Lane John L. Cora Ann Frazier Richard Rebecca Edding Martha Loucille Ben Franklin (not the Ben Franklin) Note – arrow pointing from Elizabeth Edding to Rebecca Edding – sisters 2 cousins to husband In 1811 the Ozment’s and Edding moved from N. Caroline to Wilson Co., Tenn. James Jr. fought in war of 1812 under Andrew Jackson. 1839 – Alfred, James Jr. 7Martha moved to Ark (Ozment’s Bluff – Monticello) John L. and the Frazier’s stopping in Northern Miss. John L. came to Ark in 1845. In 1850 John L. left Ark to go to Tex to join John Jasper and some of his children that had married in MS. James Jr. had 14 children Son James G had 16 children John L had 12 children – GG grandfather was one of these (Charles) Richard had 9 children Alfred had 7 children Martha had 1 child. Girls name was Martha Geneva. These information came from one of Richard’s sons. John Jasper was married twice – 1st to Ann Morgan Murdock McIntosh, known as Mac was her son. He was Sheriff of Cooke, Co (TX) in 1881. We do not know for sure which way the name is spelled. One of her sisters married a man named Walker. He was a banker. Had the bank of Tishomingo, Oklahoma at one time and another sister married Henry Younger. John L. Ozment Cora Ann Frazier James Henry Ozment Martha Arden – Chief Keoto’s brother’s daughter. Etc. on Ozment family….McIntosh Family, Edwards, Jones, Harrison. Pierce/Pearce. Andrew Clinton married Malindy (Lindy) Pierce 0 these are the grandparents of Gene Autry (yes the cowboy/country singer). James Jasper Ozment married Phoebe White. Bertha Arrington’s parents – David Brewer Ozment m. Betty Burns, one brother called Tobe (Tobias) Robert’s (Bob White) brother. ½ sisters I think – Caroline, Merandy married a Herrington and Leah Ridley Ozment married Henry D. Hill” Eva

Thank that was nice of you to do.... Happy Halloween. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carolyn White" <carolynlwhite@yahoo.com> To: <white@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 8:56 AM Subject: [WHITE] White Line How To Copy & Paste Move your cursor over to the beginning of the text you want to copy, hold down on the left 'clicker' of your mouse and drag the cursor over and down the text to highlight it. After you have highlighted the portion of the text you want to copy. On your keyboard press and hold "Ctrl" then press "c" and release both keys to copy the text to the 'clipboard' in your computer. Open the page you want to copy the text to, left click once till your cursor is flashing on the location where you want the beginning of the text to appear. On your keyboard press and hold "Ctrl" then "v" and release both keys, to paste the text from the 'clipboard' to your page. If you hold these keys too long, you might paste the copy more than once. If you do, you can delete a portion of text by highlighting it, and then press the 'Delete' key on your keyboard. This is sometimes quicker than pressing and holding the 'Delete' key. If you are copying and pasting an underscored email address for example, carolynlwhite@yahoo.com. Move the cursor to the right side of the email address where your cursor appears to be an 'I', (not over it where it's a pointing finger) before highlighting, moving your cursor from right to left. Then proceed with the shortcut keys mentioned above to copy and paste. If you have an older PC and the above procedure fails to work, after highlighting the text, left click directly on the word "Edit" in the Toolbar (if you are working with a Word document) at the top left, in the dropdown left-click on the word "Copy" to copy the text to the 'clipboard' in your PC. Go to the page you want to copy it to, then left click once till your cursor is flashing on the location where you want the beginning of the text, then click on "Edit" at the top, in the dropdown click on paste, to paste the text from the 'clipboard' to your webpage, email, Word document, spreadsheet, etc. Keyboard Shortcut Keys Ctrl and A = All Crtl and B = Bold Crtl and C = Copy Crtl and F = Find Crtl and I = Italics Crtl and N = New Crtl and O = Open Crtl and P = Print Crtl and U = Underline Ctrl and X = Cut Crtl and Y = Redo Ctrl and Z = Undo ~ Courtesy of Steve White ~ motorcoachoperator@earthlink.net Reference: Message: 2 Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 11:36:41 -0700 From: "Alli" <iamcheroke@filertel.com> Subject: Re: [WHITE] SPAM-LOW: Letters and such - Moses, Morgan, El White, George, Carrie, etc. To: <eva@mefulton.com>, <white@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <00a201c6fc52$58ed1c90$3c9962d0@KAGSDJ> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Rootsweb doesn't allow attachment's to be sent to list's. It prevents virus's from being spread thru their system (& ours) :) You'll have to copy & paste or cut & paste it onto an email instead. Carolyn White --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WHITE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

No date or address only that it is from Mrs. Gurney, “Eddins Cemetery, located at the Elmer Rowland Farm, Lebanon, Tennessee Approximately ½ mile from Leesville Pike. Several marked graves with no names and a number of unmarked graves: Lila Eddins m. T.M. Eddins b 6/26/1848 or 1849 b. 9/7/1846 d: unknown d. 9/3/1922 Jordan Eddins b. 1/27/1857 d. 10/12/1916 W.M. Eddins m. Julia G. Eddins b. 3/19/1881 b. 7/30/1882 or 6/30/1882 (old copy hard to read) d. 2/2/1913 d. M or N. P. Eddins b. 6/29/1882 d. 1/27/1912 Jane Eddins b. 5/1805 (May 8, 1805) d. 7/29/1823 Rebekah Ozment Lucinda Ozment Wife of Richard S. Ozment b. 1809 (July 2, 1809) b. 1800 d. 7/10/1835 d. 12/1845 m 5 June 1821 I found this in my records from The Billy Eddings - could be William of which I have numerous records of a William Eddings, but as yet can’t fit them together. I need the father of Caswell Eddings & any info on Edney, his wife. She was born in Tenn., him in N. Carolina. They had children in Limestone Co, AL and Wright Co., MO. One child was Caswell Dennis, my grandfather. I have names of his brothers and sisters from census. Sorry not to be of more help. Thanks for your letter, Mrs. Gurney. PS – I tried to copy the census records like they were written. My writings is bad enough but some of the census takers were terrible. There is a book of the descendents of Richard Ozment. Probably the one on the 1830 Wilson Co Tenn. census. I read it. I guess Richard was an uncle to our John Jasper. He, Richard, was not part of the bunch who went to Wilmer and I don’t believe. In case you don’t know, the Eddings were related. Billy? Eddings was supposed to be a cousin to the two Ozment boys who came over here with General Robert Lafayette to help George Washington fight the British. I’m watching for a marriage record of John Jaspers marriages to the Morgan girls but so far no luck. If we could even find the one for Margaret we could prove some things. The list of children you sent me looks pretty good for both mothers. You don’t have a Margaret, 17 years old 1850 but that could be who you are calling Ridley who married Hodges & Hill. Murdock McIntosh was the last of Ann’s children and was born in Tenn. And John L, the first of Margaret’s children was born in Tenn. I’ll look in Tenn. for a marriage record. I lost my 1830 Gulford Co. record. I’ll do it again then send you a copy.” Eva

It's ALWAYS good to share this kind of information. It goes into the archives and may be useful in the future to someone who doesn't even know yet that they're looking for Whites. And typing it was even better than a scan because it is now "searchable." I will contact you privately about the Younger/James/Dalton information. Karen Illinois

I have some other interesting letters about Ozment's, Evans, Eddings/Eddins, Ridley, Morgan, Younger/James/Dalton, and Gillard/Gilliard. Is anyone interested in this info? I think I am out of the White Line of letters, though I don't know if it helped anyone out or not. Eva

Is anyone researching John and Samuel White who in 1805 appear on the tax records of Greene County and are later found in Jefferson County, Tennessee. At this point, I know nothing else about these men. I think John might be the father of Samuel. I am particularly interested in the children of these men. Or, for that matter anything else anyone can tell me about them. Thanks, Marleen Van Horne

"Jul 1979 Katie Johns here from St. Paul, Minn. I am also researching McFarland people. Maybe if we exchange a few letters we can be of help to each other. I do not charge for my work, just work on an exchange basis. I have a David Smith who md Martha McFarland son of James and Eliz Smith Lahead Lunenburg Co., VA. Also Eliz Smith MacFarland, daughter of Abraham Smith, Dinwiddie Co., VA, wife of James. She was wi Lahead. From Old Free State Vol II, Lunenburg, VA. If you have any other names you want me to check, I'll be pleased to do so, especially if you can help me on my flora McFarland b ca 1782 in SC who md 1797 a Mr. McDuffie and who lived in Chesterfield Dist, SC 1810 and 1820 as a widow, (age 26.45) both years. She had three daughters, two md in SC and Eliz who md Coleman Ford, Nancy who md Dempsey Rivers and Mary who md 1850 in DeKalb Co., GA David Rosser (Roper) his second wf. I have been thinking that Flora's parents probably came from NC to SC. Lived in the mountains. A story comes down about flora riding to the Mill on her pony, when Tories took the grain she was taking to the mill and would have taken her pony, but the Miller rescued her. She was alongside a swift moving stream which doesn't appear to be a regular feature in Chesterfield Dist SC more like in a far western area of SC or even NC. I have many McFarland families and will be waiting to hear from you, even if it is a "no" reply. Regards, Katie." Eva