Hey!! When you are desparately looking for A William White, you are glad for anything. I hope to get back to McArthur library soon. We have this wonderful lady who has for years been collecting info and bits from papers, and has this collection of black notebooks - over 100 - with obits etc in them! That's where I found that but haven't had time to look further. I'm beginning to think James White was just an old man telling stories. There were 3 sets of William/James Whites that came into Washington co OH, and got land out ahead of the Natives. Descendants of all three sets don't claim us. Ah well!! If I learn any more I'll let you know. Your given names don't connect with our William. Lemuel, Andrew, Moses, James and William. My husband's line is William, James M., and Oliver. I can't even find Oliver's first name or middle name or whatever. EVERY record seems to be just Oliver. Thanks for responding. Margaret C in SE Ohio >AHH, this one interests me very much also, as my White line is >descended from Thomas, via Alexander (1558 d. 1595), Thomas (1587-8 >d. 1664), John (d 1682), Daniel (1668 d. ?), Joseph (1704 d. ?), >Joseph (1737 d 1795), Joseph (3) (1764 d 1830), Ansell (1840 d. >1877), Winfield S, (1861 d. 1946), I believe Alexander was a >brother of William White, that landed in 1620. >Probably more than you wanted to know HA! >Thanks, Paul > >Marguerite Crist Calvin <margaret@jced.org> wrote: From a McArthur, >Ohio, newspaper is this obituary. I am interested >because this family lived near our William & James White. James >claimed they were also a Mayflower descendant. > >April 6, 1977 PARK BENEFACTOR DIES > >Harry B. WYMAN for whom McArthur Park was named, died Sunday in a >convalescent Home in Phoenix, Arizona. > > Mr. Wyman was born in a log house 1 1/4 miles south of >McArthur, the only son of 7 children born to R. H. and MAGGIE ANN >WHITE Wyman. > > Maggie WHITE was a direct descendant of William WHITE of the >Mayflower Colony which landed on Plymouth Rock in December, 1620. > >There is more about Mr. Wyman but n othing more about his wife or the >WHITE line. > >If Maggie is indeed a direct descendant, there is a possibility she >is connected to OUR William White also. Any suggestions of direction >of research? Anything would be most appreciated!! And Thanks for >any!! Margaret Crist Calvin, wife of Daren E. Calvin, descendant of >"A" William White in Ohio. > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >WHITE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >--------------------------------- >Check out the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta - Fire up a more powerful >email and get things done faster. > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >WHITE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I would agree with one small exception, "If you were wealthy enough and powerful enough to hold a title or crest in Europe, why would you move? More likely you would live out your life in your castle or manor house on your own lands." Primogeniture - The eldest son usually got the lot and if there were any money left over it would be used to provide dowries for his sisters. Younger brothers had a choice of the church, the army/navy or the colonies. Were not most colonist to the Americas based on commercial enterprise as well as religious beliefs? Plus you have religious and/or ethnic pursicution and just like today people make bad investments, gamble and hope that this would give them a new start. On 13/11/06, Karen <gtskjs@mvn.net> wrote: > This is the most sensible reply I have seen on any board to this issue. > "Wannabee" or "newbie" genealogy researchers are the usual victims of > these charlatans. <SNIP> > -- > Richard Spencer

Have you searched the archives of the McArthur Ohio newspapers for mentions of the White families. Often one can pick up relationships thru the happenings pages about local residents. As Harry died in 1977, I would presume he was born late in the the 1800's or early 1900's so archives may be a good spot to tie his mother, Maggie, to William and James White. Or the local historical society may have information on the Whites. Otherwise, check 1880 and earlier censuses for any White family in that area containing any of the three names of the possible siblings, or cousins. Then go back a generation for a tie in of an older generation. It has worked for me in the past. Jan Nelson (William and Resolved White of the Mayflower descendent.) On Mon, 13 Nov 2006 09:43:01 -0500 Marguerite Crist Calvin <margaret@jced.org> writes: > From a McArthur, Ohio, newspaper is this obituary. I am interested > because this family lived near our William & James White. James > claimed they were also a Mayflower descendant. > > April 6, 1977 PARK BENEFACTOR DIES > > Harry B. WYMAN for whom McArthur Park was named, died Sunday in a > convalescent Home in Phoenix, Arizona. > > Mr. Wyman was born in a log house 1 1/4 miles south of > McArthur, the only son of 7 children born to R. H. and MAGGIE ANN > WHITE Wyman. > > Maggie WHITE was a direct descendant of William WHITE of the > > Mayflower Colony which landed on Plymouth Rock in December, 1620. > > There is more about Mr. Wyman but n othing more about his wife or > the > WHITE line. > > If Maggie is indeed a direct descendant, there is a possibility she > > is connected to OUR William White also. Any suggestions of direction > > of research? Anything would be most appreciated!! And Thanks for > any!! Margaret Crist Calvin, wife of Daren E. Calvin, descendant > of > "A" William White in Ohio. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WHITE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

This is the most sensible reply I have seen on any board to this issue. "Wannabee" or "newbie" genealogy researchers are the usual victims of these charlatans. NEVER order a "FAMILY CREST" from ANYONE!!! If by chance your ancestor was granted a crest and you are interested in learning what it was, you are probably looking at years of personal research to confirm the information. Then you will learn that if you want a depiction to put in your family's history, you will probably need to engage an artist to portray it for you. "One size fits all" just doesn't work. NEVER, NEVER, NEVER order a "family history" of your family surname from an advertisement you receive in the mail or email. These are generic (probably fraudulent) and after researching their information you will probably find out that nothing in it can be tied to your own family line. My married surname is a very common one and I have seen lots of this junk with our name on it. None of it has been of any value at all. Then we get to another issue. Even if you think you have tracked down the "family crest" or "family manor" there's a strong probability that your ancestor who immigrated to the New World was not a member of that family but was a tenent farmer, bound servant, etc. for that family. Just as the African slaves took the surnames of their masters, European tenant farmers often took the names of their "Lords" or whatever they were called, when it became necessary for them to take a surname. Think about it. If you were wealthy enough and powerful enough to hold a title or crest in Europe, why would you move? More likely you would live out your life in your castle or manor house on your own lands. Karen Illinois From: "P. S. Wyant" <p.wyant@sasktel.net> To: <white@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 4:28 PM Subject: Re: [WHITE] family crest > Nancy, > > the reason is, simply, because there is no such thing as a "WHITE family > crest" or a "family crest" for any other surname, for that matter. > > Unless you have had your heritage researched by an arms-granting > institution (such as the College or Arms in the UK: > http://www.college-of-arms.gov.uk/ or a similar institution in any one > of a number of countries) you've wasted your money. The commercial > sellers of such items are charlatans, plain and simple, who prey upon > the uninformed. > > Arms are granted not to a family, but to an individual and an individual > must be armigerous in order to be granted arms. If one isn't > heraldically entitled, that's an end to the matter. To display "arms" to > which one is not entitled is supposititious. > > Regards, > > Peter Wyant > Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada

looking for descendants of Talbert and Bertha white They are in PULASKI CO AR. in 1930 census. Harold _Talbert White_ (http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1930usfedcen&indiv=try&h=85814291) 44 _Bertha White_ (http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1930usfedcen&indiv=try&h=85814283) 34 _Maxine White_ (http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1930usfedcen&indiv=try&h=85814247) 11 _Talbert White_ (http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1930usfedcen&indiv=try&h=85814271) 9 _Marjory White_ (http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1930usfedcen&indiv=try&h=85814262) 6 _Calvin White_ (http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1930usfedcen&indiv=try&h=85814263) 5

From a McArthur, Ohio, newspaper is this obituary. I am interested because this family lived near our William & James White. James claimed they were also a Mayflower descendant. April 6, 1977 PARK BENEFACTOR DIES Harry B. WYMAN for whom McArthur Park was named, died Sunday in a convalescent Home in Phoenix, Arizona. Mr. Wyman was born in a log house 1 1/4 miles south of McArthur, the only son of 7 children born to R. H. and MAGGIE ANN WHITE Wyman. Maggie WHITE was a direct descendant of William WHITE of the Mayflower Colony which landed on Plymouth Rock in December, 1620. There is more about Mr. Wyman but n othing more about his wife or the WHITE line. If Maggie is indeed a direct descendant, there is a possibility she is connected to OUR William White also. Any suggestions of direction of research? Anything would be most appreciated!! And Thanks for any!! Margaret Crist Calvin, wife of Daren E. Calvin, descendant of "A" William White in Ohio.

AHH, this one interests me very much also, as my White line is descended from Thomas, via Alexander (1558 d. 1595), Thomas (1587-8 d. 1664), John (d 1682), Daniel (1668 d. ?), Joseph (1704 d. ?), Joseph (1737 d 1795), Joseph (3) (1764 d 1830), Ansell (1840 d. 1877), Winfield S, (1861 d. 1946), I believe Alexander was a brother of William White, that landed in 1620. Probably more than you wanted to know HA! Thanks, Paul Marguerite Crist Calvin <margaret@jced.org> wrote: From a McArthur, Ohio, newspaper is this obituary. I am interested because this family lived near our William & James White. James claimed they were also a Mayflower descendant. April 6, 1977 PARK BENEFACTOR DIES Harry B. WYMAN for whom McArthur Park was named, died Sunday in a convalescent Home in Phoenix, Arizona. Mr. Wyman was born in a log house 1 1/4 miles south of McArthur, the only son of 7 children born to R. H. and MAGGIE ANN WHITE Wyman. Maggie WHITE was a direct descendant of William WHITE of the Mayflower Colony which landed on Plymouth Rock in December, 1620. There is more about Mr. Wyman but n othing more about his wife or the WHITE line. If Maggie is indeed a direct descendant, there is a possibility she is connected to OUR William White also. Any suggestions of direction of research? Anything would be most appreciated!! And Thanks for any!! Margaret Crist Calvin, wife of Daren E. Calvin, descendant of "A" William White in Ohio. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WHITE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Check out the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster.

I saw a post (#8) in Vol 1, Issue 68 of the White Digest mode about anyone with James Taylor White in their line. This is my furthest back White: Please see my website at http://white.casey-genealogy.com to see if this is the same James T. White that you may have. DLC

Ladies, I think some of you may have missed a line in an e-mail somewhere back a ways. DNA testing which is being done on many lines at the $100/$200 level is only for direct male descendents (ie Jones, son of Jones who is son of Jones, who is son of Jones etc.) The markers being evaluated are carried on the male chromosome and pass from father to son to son. There is also a female test available, but it is much more expensive (2X or 3X or maybe more) because of the complexities involved. It may not provide as reliable a set of results regarding kinship as the male test does. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dora Smith" <tiggernut24@yahoo.com> To: <white@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 17:56 Subject: Re: [WHITE] WHITE DNA & Genealogy > It's very complicated. There are a number of companies and projects > doing > DNA testing. > > You might join the genealogy-dna list and the list for genealogy > beginners - > go to Rootsweb miscellaneous lists under genealogy or DNA. > > It actually takes some time to figure out, though if you get involved in a > White project they'll simplify it for you considerably. > > Yours, > Dora Smith > Austin, TX > tiggernut24@yahoo.com > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "mary dunnam" <dvdmwd@comcast.net> > To: <white@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 9:43 AM > Subject: Re: [WHITE] WHITE DNA & Genealogy > > >> where do you go to get the DNA kit and how and where do ypu sendit. >> Please >> Mary White Dunnam >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Adrienne" <akaufman@twmi.rr.com> >> To: <white@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 6:51 AM >> Subject: Re: [WHITE] WHITE DNA & Genealogy >> >> >>> Hi Jan, >>> I would be interested in doing the same thing. Can you tell me how much >>> it >>> cost and what it involved doing. I assume that it is a mouth swab for a >>> male >>> family member. I would like to hear some more about it? >>> Adrienne in Michigan >>> akaufman@twmi.rr.com >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: white-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:white-bounces@rootsweb.com]On >>> Behalf Of Jan White >>> Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 11:13 AM >>> To: white@rootsweb.com >>> Subject: [WHITE] WHITE DNA & Genealogy >>> >>> >>> Greetings Group, >>> >>> I've been lurking and participating on this group for years and in spite >>> of >>> numerous postings of my White family, still have my brick wall Samuel >>> White >>> b.1816 NY. A month or so ago I decided to go the DNA route and had a 37 >>> marker test done by Family Tree DNA (no endorsement, just used 'em) and >>> was >>> immediately notified of a perfect 37 marker match with a White in San >>> Francisco! Which basically means we have a 99% chance of having a common >>> ancestor within the past few generations. We've exchanged info and he >>> has >>> traced his ggrandfather William Freeman White (b.1833) to Bradford Co. >>> PA, >>> which just happens to be next to Chemung Co. NY. We'll continue to sniff >>> around in that area to see what we come up with. It's pretty exciting to >>> go >>> from an absolute brick wall to at least a remote possibility! It appears >>> that our White line originated in the Bradford Co. / Chemung Co. area. >>> Finally a glimmer of hope! >>> >>> The only reason I post this is because the DNA option may help those of >>> us >>> in the male line of Whites to broaden our genealogy horizons with an >>> investment of a couple hundred dollars. I've spent three times that >>> amount >>> on genealogists I've hired in NY state! Also, YSearch.org is now a >>> repository for DNA matches from DNA labs from all over the world, so if >>> someone in England ends up having a 25 or 37 marker match with mine, we >>> are >>> both notified via email. Consequently, as the thousands of DNA tests are >>> added in the future the possibilities of potential matches increase >>> dramatically. >>> >>> I'll keep the list notified of how the research pans out. >>> >>> Jan White >>> Traverse City, Michigan >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> WHITE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes >>> in >>> the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> WHITE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes >>> in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> WHITE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > -- > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.3/395 - Release Date: 7/21/2006 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WHITE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Found on line while researching an ancestor....not my Whites. The town of Bolton was incorporated in 1720. The Congregational Church organized October 27, 1725. Rev. Thomas White pastor from 1722 to 1763. Marriages recorded as follows: Marriages At The Bolton Congregational Church, Tolland County, Ct. Prior To 1800 Col. Thomas Wells & Mrs. Martha White ...... Aug. 15, 1764 Ann White & Thomas Kimberly ...... Sept. 16, 1772 Bette White & Rev. John Bliss ...... Jan. 15, 1766 Jerusha White & Rev. Samuel Clark ...... July 1, 1766 Joel White & Ruth Dart ...... Jan. 22, 1736 Mrs. Martha White & Col. Thomas Wells ...... Aug. 15, 1764 Hope this helps someone Jan Nelson

Found this marriage at Godfrey Library while searching for one of my ancestors Database: Boston -Maine Marriages 1700-1809 Pg 30-171 William White of Thomaston to Katherine McLadd Boston date of marriage: 2-28-1799 Rev. Sam. Stillman Jan Nelson

I would like to see the White crest as I paid for one and it isn't any thing like I have seen others with on the Whites Nancy White Richardson From: white-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:white-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John White Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 2:18 PM To: eva@mefulton.com; white@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WHITE] Interesting White/Whyte website I descend from Stephen White, "the Immigrant" shown as the descendant of Marcus White. You can find our post-migration Whites: Barnes, Robt.: "Baltimore, MD. County Families...1659-1759" I have our coat of arms not shown in the pedigree by Victoria Taylor...Just ask if interested. Likely your cousin, John -----Original Message----- From: white-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:white-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Eva Fulton Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 6:38 AM To: white@rootsweb.com Subject: [WHITE] Interesting White/Whyte website http://kyusa.addr.com/White/index.html These appear to be original Whites that migrated to US. Not a lot of White info after migration. Eva ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WHITE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WHITE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Linda. Are you doing the DNA testing? I don't see any connection between our families at this point, but it would be neat to see if the DNA turns up a connection. I think I'm going to ask my husband for a test kit as an Xmas gift. It might save him from having to traipse through cemeteries with me. <smile> Adrienne. -----Original Message----- From: white-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:white-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Ldd1997@aol.com Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 6:07 PM To: white@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WHITE] White --- Ferris and now, James The son (of John and Mary F White) who moved to Michigan (from Erie or Huron Co. Ohio) was Palmer F. White. He is listed in the 1870 census as P.F. White, age 44, husband to Olive. A (34), father to Carrie M (9), John B (5) and Lizzie May (2). in Ingham Co Mi. As far as I know, the children never had any of their own -- but I may be wrong. Palmer was born around 1826 in NY. The middle initial "F" in Palmer's name may have stood for "Ferris". "Ferris", his mother's middle name, may have been, as you suggested, her mother's maiden name. Alas, this would make Mary Ferris White's maiden name almost impossible to figure out. Palmer had a sister named Elizabeth White. She was born in 1831 in Ohio (Erie or Huron Co) and married Daniel A. James (born in 1828 in Ohio). I know of three children: Palmer (born 1852) (named after his uncle). Daniel Arza James, Jr. (born 1854) and Nettie M. James. There may have been others. These family members (except for Palmer James) are buried with Elizabeth's parents (John and Mary Ferris White) in the Old West End Cemetery in Berlin Twp. Erie County (although this could actually be Huron Co), Ohio. The 1900 census has Daniel James (the father) living with Palmer James (his son). Linda

The son (of John and Mary F White) who moved to Michigan (from Erie or Huron Co. Ohio) was Palmer F. White. He is listed in the 1870 census as P.F. White, age 44, husband to Olive. A (34), father to Carrie M (9), John B (5) and Lizzie May (2). in Ingham Co Mi. As far as I know, the children never had any of their own -- but I may be wrong. Palmer was born around 1826 in NY. The middle initial "F" in Palmer's name may have stood for "Ferris". "Ferris", his mother's middle name, may have been, as you suggested, her mother's maiden name. Alas, this would make Mary Ferris White's maiden name almost impossible to figure out. Palmer had a sister named Elizabeth White. She was born in 1831 in Ohio (Erie or Huron Co) and married Daniel A. James (born in 1828 in Ohio). I know of three children: Palmer (born 1852) (named after his uncle). Daniel Arza James, Jr. (born 1854) and Nettie M. James. There may have been others. These family members (except for Palmer James) are buried with Elizabeth's parents (John and Mary Ferris White) in the Old West End Cemetery in Berlin Twp. Erie County (although this could actually be Huron Co), Ohio. The 1900 census has Daniel James (the father) living with Palmer James (his son). Linda In a message dated 11/12/2006 7:52:24 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, akaufman@twmi.rr.com writes: Tell me about the one son who moved to Michigan. That is where my Whites are and I can't get them out of Michigan and back to NY or Penn. My line starts with Charles Henry White b. 1843. No names for the parents or siblings, just a few census reports with wives and children and a marriage date/place with no paperwork to prove it. Do you have a Charles born about 1843 in Michigan or NY? Adrienne. -----Original Message----- From: white-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:white-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Ldd1997@aol.com Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 10:24 AM To: white@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WHITE] Ancestry.com A correction or a previous posting The correction: Addison Co., Vt -- not NY. I'm looking for the a Mary Ferris (? --- Her married name was Mary Ferris White, I assume her last name was Ferris) who married John White. Both, I believe, where born in the 1790's and came from Addison County, VERMONT (not NY). They moved to St. Lawrence Co. NY where their son Henry E. White was born in (circa) 1820. They had other children as well: Elizabeth, Sarah and other boys: William? Byron?, and another...... By 1830, or so, the family had relocated in Huron or Erie County, Ohio. Henry became a doctor and married Roxanna Denman; the couple remained in Huron Co. Ohio; the girls married and remained local. and I'm not sure what happened to the other boys except that one became a "society doctor" in New York, another moved to Ingham County, Michigan....The parents (John and Mary White) are buried in Berlin Heights. Ohio. .Anybody have any info on this family? lm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WHITE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WHITE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

It's very complicated. There are a number of companies and projects doing DNA testing. You might join the genealogy-dna list and the list for genealogy beginners - go to Rootsweb miscellaneous lists under genealogy or DNA. It actually takes some time to figure out, though if you get involved in a White project they'll simplify it for you considerably. Yours, Dora Smith Austin, TX tiggernut24@yahoo.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "mary dunnam" <dvdmwd@comcast.net> To: <white@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 9:43 AM Subject: Re: [WHITE] WHITE DNA & Genealogy > where do you go to get the DNA kit and how and where do ypu sendit. Please > Mary White Dunnam > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Adrienne" <akaufman@twmi.rr.com> > To: <white@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 6:51 AM > Subject: Re: [WHITE] WHITE DNA & Genealogy > > >> Hi Jan, >> I would be interested in doing the same thing. Can you tell me how much >> it >> cost and what it involved doing. I assume that it is a mouth swab for a >> male >> family member. I would like to hear some more about it? >> Adrienne in Michigan >> akaufman@twmi.rr.com >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: white-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:white-bounces@rootsweb.com]On >> Behalf Of Jan White >> Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 11:13 AM >> To: white@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [WHITE] WHITE DNA & Genealogy >> >> >> Greetings Group, >> >> I've been lurking and participating on this group for years and in spite >> of >> numerous postings of my White family, still have my brick wall Samuel >> White >> b.1816 NY. A month or so ago I decided to go the DNA route and had a 37 >> marker test done by Family Tree DNA (no endorsement, just used 'em) and >> was >> immediately notified of a perfect 37 marker match with a White in San >> Francisco! Which basically means we have a 99% chance of having a common >> ancestor within the past few generations. We've exchanged info and he has >> traced his ggrandfather William Freeman White (b.1833) to Bradford Co. >> PA, >> which just happens to be next to Chemung Co. NY. We'll continue to sniff >> around in that area to see what we come up with. It's pretty exciting to >> go >> from an absolute brick wall to at least a remote possibility! It appears >> that our White line originated in the Bradford Co. / Chemung Co. area. >> Finally a glimmer of hope! >> >> The only reason I post this is because the DNA option may help those of >> us >> in the male line of Whites to broaden our genealogy horizons with an >> investment of a couple hundred dollars. I've spent three times that >> amount >> on genealogists I've hired in NY state! Also, YSearch.org is now a >> repository for DNA matches from DNA labs from all over the world, so if >> someone in England ends up having a 25 or 37 marker match with mine, we >> are >> both notified via email. Consequently, as the thousands of DNA tests are >> added in the future the possibilities of potential matches increase >> dramatically. >> >> I'll keep the list notified of how the research pans out. >> >> Jan White >> Traverse City, Michigan >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> WHITE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in >> the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> WHITE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WHITE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.3/395 - Release Date: 7/21/2006

Appended is my FGS for Alvin White. Betsey Clark lived in Addison Cty Vermont at the approximate time of their marriage. Alvin does not show in the 1790 census but is in Addison with wife and 2 young sons in the 1800 census. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: <Ldd1997@aol.com> To: <white@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 9:21 AM Subject: Re: [WHITE] William W. White....Ferris > > In a message dated 11/11/2006 10:15:25 AM Eastern Standard Time, > farnswfw@cox.net writes: > > Do you mean Addison County VERMONT? I have an ancestor, Alvin White, who > removed from Addison County Vermont to St. Lawrencce Co NY shortly after > 1800. I have good information on his family and descendants, but little > on > his ancestry. I don't see any mention of a John White in his family. > > > > Yes, I did mean that (I should refrain from using the computer when I'm > half > asleep). > I would like to see any information you can share. There might be a > connection. > I've been wondering about accessing public records for the area but don't > know how to begin. I was told that Addison, like many other counties, has > redrawn it's lines (probably more than once) since that time. > > Thank you!. > Linda M. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WHITE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

I don't have your Stephen White in my tree, but my tree does include two Stephen Whites b. 1803 and 1829. Stephen b. 1803 son of William White and Hannah Stetson; Stephen b. 1829 a nephew b. to another son of William, Phineas White. This leads me to suspect it was a family name. These are Whites who lived around Dartmouth, later Fairhaven, in Bristol Co, MA. You might want to check Vital Records in that area. William (wife Hannah) served in the Rev. War, as did his father William White (wife Mercy Sears). It was called Dartmouth in 1775 when they enlisted, later Fairhaven, so check Dartmouth vitals for your Stephen White. Good Luck, Sorry I could not help more. Janet Nelson On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 16:24:37 EST Marheinek@aol.com writes: > I tried to get an e-mail to go through about a dead end on my WHITE > line, > but it has never appeared. > > My ancestor, STEPHEN WHITE, was born in Gloucester, MA, at least I > believe, > and married SARAH____. The only child I know about is my > g-g-grandmother, > Sally White/ Bray/ Wallis, b- 1796. Sally's death certificate says > she was > born in Gloucester, her parents were Stephen White and Sarah. Her > obit also > said the same parents and birth in Gloucester, MA. > > I have tried for many years to find Stephen, I know he did not > slither out > from under a rock, so someplace there has to be some sort of a > record on this > man. Sally Wallis died in 1881, and she lived in the same house her > 1st > husband's father built in the late 1700s. > > Margaret > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WHITE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Nancy, the reason is, simply, because there is no such thing as a "WHITE family crest" or a "family crest" for any other surname, for that matter. Unless you have had your heritage researched by an arms-granting institution (such as the College or Arms in the UK: http://www.college-of-arms.gov.uk/ or a similar institution in any one of a number of countries) you've wasted your money. The commercial sellers of such items are charlatans, plain and simple, who prey upon the uninformed. Arms are granted not to a family, but to an individual and an individual must be armigerous in order to be granted arms. If one isn't heraldically entitled, that's an end to the matter. To display "arms" to which one is not entitled is supposititious. Regards, Peter Wyant Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada nancy Richardson wrote: >Why are there so many family crests for the Whites? I paid dearly for >one many years ago and it is not the same as I see now. >Nancy White Richardson in EL Paso TX > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WHITE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

I tried to get an e-mail to go through about a dead end on my WHITE line, but it has never appeared. My ancestor, STEPHEN WHITE, was born in Gloucester, MA, at least I believe, and married SARAH____. The only child I know about is my g-g-grandmother, Sally White/ Bray/ Wallis, b- 1796. Sally's death certificate says she was born in Gloucester, her parents were Stephen White and Sarah. Her obit also said the same parents and birth in Gloucester, MA. I have tried for many years to find Stephen, I know he did not slither out from under a rock, so someplace there has to be some sort of a record on this man. Sally Wallis died in 1881, and she lived in the same house her 1st husband's father built in the late 1700s. Margaret

Why are there so many family crests for the Whites? I paid dearly for one many years ago and it is not the same as I see now. Nancy White Richardson in EL Paso TX