i too have a white in my family. his name was william c. white married to mary reeves and lived in alabama as far as we know. know his two boys were born in alabama. i am also interested to see if any of your books on the james gang encludes a names of boley or boleypaugh. my grandfather was henry b. boley and he use to tell about the james and daltons come by his place for food when they were on the run. he lived in red river co. texas at the time on the border of texas and oklahoma. some believe he rode with them but never found any proof. do have a pictures of him and my grandmother with the bass boys and two of the daltons so perhaps the stories are true. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Red Anthony" <redpata@hotmail.com> To: <WHITE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2000 6:20 PM Subject: Re: [WHITE] White Brothers, rode with Jessie James > Rilla: You were probably the one that contacted me before. At this link, > U.K.,,is where I found the list of Quantrill's Raiders. It has James and > John White listed. > > http://www.ukans.edu/heritage/research/quantrill.txt > > This got me interested in Quantrill and the James Gang..I have lots of Civil > War Books, but not much on these two. I just ordered 3 books from Amazon, > they are: > 1. The Devil Knows how to Ride,,,The true Story of William Clarke Quantrill > and his Confederate Raiders. > This is a large book,,over 400 pages,,and I haven't read it yet, and the > index is not very good. > > 2.Three Years with Quantrill, by his Scout, John McCorkle. > He didn't give lots of names, and its good reading, but the James and John > White are not mentioned. Its about 250 pages and I have finished it. > > 3.Jesse James Was His Name, by William Settle. > I am reading it now. The White brothers are listed in the index of this > book. On page 36,,,this was one of the first bank robberies blamed on the > James Gang. It was supposed to have been Jesse & Frank James and 10 others. > The robbery was at the Hughes & Wasson Bank, Richmond, Missouri, on May 22, > 1867. Warrents were later issued for 7 of the men, including James & John > White. This is all I've found so far. If you have access to any other books > on Quantrill or Jesse James, I would like to know if you find anything. > > This is how I connect to a couple of brothers, James & John White; > My G.G.Grandfather was Burgess White, b.1808, S.C., d. 1869, in Blount > County, Alabama. One of his brothers, Elbert White, also born in S.C., lived > in Walker Co., Al., moved to McNairy Co. Tn., before 1850, then moved to > Polk County, Arkansas about 1855,,and was there in the 1860 census, and > James, b. abt. 1838, and John, b. abt.1846, were living at home. They were > in the right place,,right time and about the right age, but will probably be > inpossible to find out if they are the outlaws. > Red Anthony > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com >

Do these White brothers have a connection to Ephriam White...son David White? If so, that is my line also. Bobbie Meridieth prechan wrote: > I don't have James or White connected with Quantrill but I do have three > missing Millers supposedly hung in E. TX. > > My research for White's are Headly White and Lydia Wright listed in Leon > co TX 1850. I would like to hear from any of their descendants , plus > hoping for a pic of Lydia. She was a daughter of Joshua Wright of > Clinton co OH and sister to my 2nd GGF Joshua Haworth Wright lived Bell > co TX. > > Thanks, Pat in OK

Mr.Anthony, I have a John and James White as brothers in my database,and was curious if you can tell me approx.dates that they may have rode with the James brothers.IF this is the same John White he is my ggrandfather,He may have lived in Arkansas at one time but raised his family in the hills of Va.I say he may have lived in Ark.at one time because I have seen on the lds census where ther was a John White there ,and the dates were similar to ggrandpa's.My grandfather always said he was going back to Little rock,so there may be a connection. Please reply to me directly. Kathy dmclott@accucomm.net

My father Marcus White b. 1909 used to tell us that he grew up next door to Jesse James' aunt in Kansas. He also knew of the Dalton gang as some of them lived near too. My father's ggrandfather was name George White & we believe he may had some kind of connection also, but we're not sure. My father used to tell us how Jesse James's aunt used to give them treats & him & the neighbor boys would take care of her dog. My father's White's were from Ireland, WV, Ms, Ka, Mo, & Tx. From, Jenny

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I think a lot of families were in contact with the James Gang. My grandma said that when she was little she was sitting at the R & R tracks or depot & she saw them ride past her or get on the train. I don't remember now. It'd be neat if someone who was around them got their autograph to pass on to their descendents Alli Researching: ABRAM--JOHNSON--ADAMS--LOVELL--WHITE--PHARISS--McCALL--McKAY--THOMPSON Adams-L listowner Pampered Chef Consultant ----- Original Message ----- From: jean mccoy <mccoy@gvtc.com> To: <WHITE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2000 7:57 AM Subject: Re: [WHITE] White Brothers, rode with Jessie James > I do not know these Whites, and names do not fit my line. However, I will say > that an old family tale was that Jesse James came to see my Grandfather in > Uvalde, Texas somewhere just prior to 1900....of course Jesse was supposed to be > dead, and my family always heard, it was not true because of the visit. It was > further related that my Grandfather's mother, who was Mariah Munday(Cherry) > White, had been left a widow after the Civil War when Capt Absalom White of > Tippah Co, Ms died of injuries suffered during the war. According to records > found, they had been large land owners, but after his father died, my GF b 1859 > and a young teen, took his mother Mariah and a sister to Memphis, Tn where he > pedaled milk until he could make enough money to bring them to Texas. But GF > said when they still lived on the plantation, Jesse and his boys would come by > and his mother would feed them, and she said if they didn't hurt her, she had > no problem with them...She treated them nice and they treated her nice! My GF > was about 17 when he arrived in Hill Co, Tx. Somewhere there was a Mo > connection, but I have been unable to unravel it. I do know that connecting > familes in Hill Co came from Mo...the Ince...McMillan family. For what a little > gossip is worth. Jean mccoy@gvtc.com > > Red Anthony wrote: > > > Hello Listers: I posted this to a couple of the Gen-forum pages yesterday, > > thought I would list it here also, maybe someone knows something about these > > White brothers. > > > > I have posted to most of the boards in the last 2 or 3 years, and I received > > a message a year or so ago, asking if I had ever heard anything about some > > Whites that rode with Jessie James. This person said it was an old family > > story, and I didn't know anything about it then, and lost the message later. > > Since I study the Civil War quite a bit, I recent found a list of men that > > rode with the Confederate Raiders of William Quantrill. There were some > > brothers, James and John White, listed. Jesse and Frank James rode with > > Quantrill also, and after the war continuied with their robbery careers. In > > one of their first bank robberies after the war, James and John White were > > two of the twelve men involved along with Jessie and Frank James and others. > > Just wondered if any White Family researchers knew anything about these > > brothers, or what family they belonged. Most of the members of Quantrill's > > raiders were in their early to mid twenties, although some were teen-agers. > > Quantrill was just 28 when killed in 1865. These White brothers would have > > probably been born in the 1835-45 period. Most of these raiders came from > > Missouri, Kansas, and a few from Arkansas and Texas. I have a couple distant > > cousins from western Ar. that fit, name and age wise, but looking for > > someone else to claim these outlaws too. LOL ,,,,Red Anthony, Arkansas > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > >

I don't have James or White connected with Quantrill but I do have three missing Millers supposedly hung in E. TX. My research for White's are Headly White and Lydia Wright listed in Leon co TX 1850. I would like to hear from any of their descendants , plus hoping for a pic of Lydia. She was a daughter of Joshua Wright of Clinton co OH and sister to my 2nd GGF Joshua Haworth Wright lived Bell co TX. Thanks, Pat in OK

Alli - Yeah - you're right. I'm even on the James list because of this. Or at least, I was - I'd have to check and see if I still am! LOL Red: Let me check on this tomorrow for you. I'm out the door for the night in a few minutes. Take care all! Rilla At 07:37 PM 5/13/2000, you wrote: >I think a lot of families were in contact with the James Gang. My grandma >said that when she was little she was sitting at the R & R tracks or depot & >she saw them ride past her or get on the train. I don't remember now. It'd >be neat if someone who was around them got their autograph to pass on to >their descendents >Alli >Researching: >ABRAM--JOHNSON--ADAMS--LOVELL--WHITE--PHARISS--McCALL--McKAY--THOMPSON >Adams-L listowner >Pampered Chef Consultant >----- Original Message ----- >From: jean mccoy <mccoy@gvtc.com> >To: <WHITE-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2000 7:57 AM >Subject: Re: [WHITE] White Brothers, rode with Jessie James > > > > I do not know these Whites, and names do not fit my line. However, I will >say > > that an old family tale was that Jesse James came to see my Grandfather in > > Uvalde, Texas somewhere just prior to 1900....of course Jesse was supposed >to be > > dead, and my family always heard, it was not true because of the visit. >It was > > further related that my Grandfather's mother, who was Mariah >Munday(Cherry) > > White, had been left a widow after the Civil War when Capt Absalom White >of > > Tippah Co, Ms died of injuries suffered during the war. According to >records > > found, they had been large land owners, but after his father died, my GF b >1859 > > and a young teen, took his mother Mariah and a sister to Memphis, Tn where >he > > pedaled milk until he could make enough money to bring them to Texas. But >GF > > said when they still lived on the plantation, Jesse and his boys would >come by > > and his mother would feed them, and she said if they didn't hurt her, she >had > > no problem with them...She treated them nice and they treated her nice! >My GF > > was about 17 when he arrived in Hill Co, Tx. Somewhere there was a Mo > > connection, but I have been unable to unravel it. I do know that >connecting > > familes in Hill Co came from Mo...the Ince...McMillan family. For what a >little > > gossip is worth. Jean mccoy@gvtc.com > > > > Red Anthony wrote: > > > > > Hello Listers: I posted this to a couple of the Gen-forum pages >yesterday, > > > thought I would list it here also, maybe someone knows something about >these > > > White brothers. > > > > > > I have posted to most of the boards in the last 2 or 3 years, and I >received > > > a message a year or so ago, asking if I had ever heard anything about >some > > > Whites that rode with Jessie James. This person said it was an old >family > > > story, and I didn't know anything about it then, and lost the message >later. > > > Since I study the Civil War quite a bit, I recent found a list of men >that > > > rode with the Confederate Raiders of William Quantrill. There were some > > > brothers, James and John White, listed. Jesse and Frank James rode with > > > Quantrill also, and after the war continuied with their robbery careers. >In > > > one of their first bank robberies after the war, James and John White >were > > > two of the twelve men involved along with Jessie and Frank James and >others. > > > Just wondered if any White Family researchers knew anything about these > > > brothers, or what family they belonged. Most of the members of >Quantrill's > > > raiders were in their early to mid twenties, although some were >teen-agers. > > > Quantrill was just 28 when killed in 1865. These White brothers would >have > > > probably been born in the 1835-45 period. Most of these raiders came >from > > > Missouri, Kansas, and a few from Arkansas and Texas. I have a couple >distant > > > cousins from western Ar. that fit, name and age wise, but looking for > > > someone else to claim these outlaws too. LOL ,,,,Red Anthony, Arkansas > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > > >

Rilla: You were probably the one that contacted me before. At this link, U.K.,,is where I found the list of Quantrill's Raiders. It has James and John White listed. http://www.ukans.edu/heritage/research/quantrill.txt This got me interested in Quantrill and the James Gang..I have lots of Civil War Books, but not much on these two. I just ordered 3 books from Amazon, they are: 1. The Devil Knows how to Ride,,,The true Story of William Clarke Quantrill and his Confederate Raiders. This is a large book,,over 400 pages,,and I haven't read it yet, and the index is not very good. 2.Three Years with Quantrill, by his Scout, John McCorkle. He didn't give lots of names, and its good reading, but the James and John White are not mentioned. Its about 250 pages and I have finished it. 3.Jesse James Was His Name, by William Settle. I am reading it now. The White brothers are listed in the index of this book. On page 36,,,this was one of the first bank robberies blamed on the James Gang. It was supposed to have been Jesse & Frank James and 10 others. The robbery was at the Hughes & Wasson Bank, Richmond, Missouri, on May 22, 1867. Warrents were later issued for 7 of the men, including James & John White. This is all I've found so far. If you have access to any other books on Quantrill or Jesse James, I would like to know if you find anything. This is how I connect to a couple of brothers, James & John White; My G.G.Grandfather was Burgess White, b.1808, S.C., d. 1869, in Blount County, Alabama. One of his brothers, Elbert White, also born in S.C., lived in Walker Co., Al., moved to McNairy Co. Tn., before 1850, then moved to Polk County, Arkansas about 1855,,and was there in the 1860 census, and James, b. abt. 1838, and John, b. abt.1846, were living at home. They were in the right place,,right time and about the right age, but will probably be inpossible to find out if they are the outlaws. Red Anthony ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

Jean, There was a Robert White who moved with Wm C to WI and then on to MO with him. We haven't figured out whether he was a cousin, nephew or younger brother. There was 10 years difference. Celeste was his wife's name. I have just learned our lineage this last year and a half. I have a copy of a sale of land of my gr grandfather's in WI. Wm C was supposedly in the Civil War. I looked but I found 2 Wm s and I don't know which is which. So I can't help much unless I find some more about them. Wm C's wife was a Pillsbury . There were 5 Pillsbury families who moved with them from ME. My gr gr gr grandfather was born in NH in 1740. He is the one who had 15 brothers and sisters including a twin, Thomas. This Thomas never married. Their mother was Elizabeth Mitchell, dau of John Mitchell who later settled in Belfast , ME. Do you want me to find a list of the gr gr and gr gr gr brothers and sisters? My gr grandfather, Wm Esq, also wrote a book about the early history of Belfast. His father, was a senator at one time. I believe he was too. Anyway, they were interested in working in the community and welfare of their country. This is most of what I know so far. I hired a researcher in WI but all she could find was the census record. She found a chapter on the Pillsburys tho. >From what she found out , tho, I went on to ME. Thru a lot of volunteers and the Pillsbury book, I found the rest. Elnora

Red Anthony - James and John, huh? Wonder how I missed those two? The message you saw was probably from me. I had a great uncle CC White who rode with the James gang. I think his father was Nazareth. He had a sister by the name of Rilla Dudley? Ginn. They were Cherokee and so the girls had a different last name from the boys. Do you know anything more about James and John? Wonder if the three were related? I don't know about your two brothers - but CC White is definately mine. Thanks! I must have missed this in a history book someplace! Rilla At 02:36 PM 5/13/2000, you wrote: >Hello Listers: I posted this to a couple of the Gen-forum pages yesterday, >thought I would list it here also, maybe someone knows something about >these White brothers. > >I have posted to most of the boards in the last 2 or 3 years, and I >received a message a year or so ago, asking if I had ever heard anything >about some Whites that rode with Jessie James. This person said it was an >old family story, and I didn't know anything about it then, and lost the >message later. Since I study the Civil War quite a bit, I recent found a >list of men that rode with the Confederate Raiders of William Quantrill. >There were some brothers, James and John White, listed. Jesse and Frank >James rode with Quantrill also, and after the war continuied with their >robbery careers. In one of their first bank robberies after the war, James >and John White were two of the twelve men involved along with Jessie and >Frank James and others. >Just wondered if any White Family researchers knew anything about these >brothers, or what family they belonged. Most of the members of Quantrill's >raiders were in their early to mid twenties, although some were >teen-agers. Quantrill was just 28 when killed in 1865. These White >brothers would have probably been born in the 1835-45 period. Most of >these raiders came from Missouri, Kansas, and a few from Arkansas and >Texas. I have a couple distant cousins from western Ar. that fit, name and >age wise, but looking for someone else to claim these outlaws too. LOL >,,,,Red Anthony, Arkansas > >________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

It is funny that Jessie James is a topic on the White list. It just so happens that Jessie's wife (his first cousin by the way) Zerelda Mims is in my husbands line. Jessie may be as well because I don't ;know exactly how the cousin thing worked with them. Pat in TX Still looking for James Marion White GA

Hi Elnora, Omro, Wis was only 21 miles from where I lived in Fond du Lac, WI. My White family lived in Portage Co., Wis and in Waushara, Wis. In fact the family lived in several areas of Wis. They had moved from NY to Canada in 1783, into Maine ca 1830, to Jefferson Co., Wis. in abt 1853, then to Portage Co.,Wis., then to Minn. by 1870 then on to So. Dakota and back to Minn and Superior, Wis. Anything sound famliar to you? Jean R

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My gr gr grandfather was a lawyer in Belfast, ME coming from NH in 1812. Then my gr grandfather, Wm C, was bn there. Wm C and Evaline Pillsbury White left for WI after 1840 for they were in Bloomingdale, WI (changed to OMro in 1853) on the 1850 and 1860 census. They moved to MO in 1867. I never thought that the White name would be as common as Smith or Jones but believe me it does seem to be. McKnights are in my family too. The southern McKnights and northern McKnights all have same names. It is confusing!!! Who knows? Maybe our families will connect somewhere. We have to remember that ME, Vermont, and some of the other states were just territories included in York, etc. at one time. That really makes it difficult. If one is married in MA, they could later be living in another state in the same place. They did move around too. Elnora

actually my Thomas White was born in NY and moved into Hodgdon, Aroostook Co., Maine abt 1830 - he died there in 1862. From there many of his children moved to Wisconsin. Where did yours live in Maine? Jean R

Hello Listers: I posted this to a couple of the Gen-forum pages yesterday, thought I would list it here also, maybe someone knows something about these White brothers. I have posted to most of the boards in the last 2 or 3 years, and I received a message a year or so ago, asking if I had ever heard anything about some Whites that rode with Jessie James. This person said it was an old family story, and I didn't know anything about it then, and lost the message later. Since I study the Civil War quite a bit, I recent found a list of men that rode with the Confederate Raiders of William Quantrill. There were some brothers, James and John White, listed. Jesse and Frank James rode with Quantrill also, and after the war continuied with their robbery careers. In one of their first bank robberies after the war, James and John White were two of the twelve men involved along with Jessie and Frank James and others. Just wondered if any White Family researchers knew anything about these brothers, or what family they belonged. Most of the members of Quantrill's raiders were in their early to mid twenties, although some were teen-agers. Quantrill was just 28 when killed in 1865. These White brothers would have probably been born in the 1835-45 period. Most of these raiders came from Missouri, Kansas, and a few from Arkansas and Texas. I have a couple distant cousins from western Ar. that fit, name and age wise, but looking for someone else to claim these outlaws too. LOL ,,,,Red Anthony, Arkansas ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

Do you happen to know where in Maine he was born. My White family was also from Maine. Patti H JRent9835@aol.com wrote: > I wish I could help you as I, too, have a Thomas White but mine went to > Canada frrom NY and died in Maine in 1862 - wrong area, sorry. > Jean R

Patti, Which White family from ME are you from? Mine came from NH and ME. Wm White from Eng via Ireland abt 1720 m Jane Graham. They had children -son, Wm White(Col) m Mary Mills then Elizabeth Mitchell (16 children) -son-Wm , Esq, m Maria Ashman then Lydia Gordon-son, Wm, bn , ME in 1818 m Evaline Pillsbury in 1840-son ,Wm bn 1860 in WI, m Jennie McKnight, in 1885 in MO, son, Charles bn 1890,MO, m Edna Inman of Stroud , OK in 1917. I have our direct line but none of the branches. Elnora White Bowen SWTEB@aol.com