Hello Diane, We have exchanged info before, my Bertie (female) had a brother Martin, and then half brothers that I named in the post. My Thomas H White Family and some pictures of his family are on my FTM Home page too if you would like to look. Asso. names are Valentine, McBee, Lee, There is also a Descendant Outline. http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/w/y/r/Elnora--F-Wyrick/ Elnora Frances Cook-Wyrick -----Original Message----- From: Diane Colbert <fmcolbert@earthlink.net> To: John & Elnora Wyrick <ejwaa@worldnet.att.net> Date: Sunday, May 14, 2000 2:55 PM Subject: Re: [WHITE] Thomas White >John > >I'm interested in your WHITE family. Did your Bertie have a brother >named John Allen or sister Jesse? Please view my home page there's a >picture of the Children together. Maybe here's a connection. >http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/c/o/l/Diane-L-Colbert/index.html >Diane > >

Not my Whites ,sorry

Red, My grandparents and family moved from Carthage , MO in 1892 to south of Stroud near the Sac and Fox Agency. My grandfather, Wm H White and his brother, George White, both hauled freight between there and Guthrie. Daddy was 2 when they moved from MO. My gr grandparents, Wm C a nd Evaline Pillsbury White moved from Onro, WI in 1867 to Jasper Co ,MO. They had Sarah C who m John Casebeas John m (?), Lydia who m a JONes and settled in Montana, Addie who m Wm Moody , settled in Chanute , KS, Elvina (Ella) who m Wm Madden ,settled inLima , Ohio, Eva m Charles W Pillsbury went back to Minn., Wm H m Jennie McKnight in Mo. The last 3 were bn in WI but the first ones were born in ME-Belfast, Waldo Co. Speaking of red heads-all 5 of us were red haired. Mom, too. I think Daddy was too but he was bald when I can remember. Thanks for getting back to me. Elnora Bowen SWTEB@aol.com

Here is my Thomas White Family, Don’t know Where in TN, Where in GA or Where in AR, but landed in Van Zandt Co. TX, in 1870. I am convinced that Thomas’ wife (S.A.) was Sarah Ann Pyle/Pyles 1870 Census; Wills Point,Van Zandt Co., TX, Page 28, # 201-28 Thomas White, age 46, b.1824/25 in TN, S. A. White, age 35, b.1830/35 in GA Elizabeth White, age 20, b.1850 in GA Margaret White, age 17, b.1853 in GA (My GGrandmother) Peter White, age 14, b.1856 in GA Sarah L. White age 11, b.1859 in AR Thos. A White age 9, b.1861 in TX Louis H. White age 5, b.1865 in TX James White age 1, b.1869 in TX In 1873 there was one more son, John O White born in VZ Co., TX, Reasonably John's mother was Sarah Ann Pyle. Then in early 1890s, Thomas had 2 more children, son Martin and daughter Bertie, by a different wife. Hope someone can make a connection to this family . Elnora Frances Cook-Wyrick -----Original Message----- From: JRent9835@aol.com <JRent9835@aol.com> To: WHITE-L@rootsweb.com <WHITE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, May 13, 2000 6:31 PM Subject: Re: [WHITE] Thomas White >Hi Elnora, >Omro, Wis was only 21 miles from where I lived in Fond du Lac, WI. My White >family lived in Portage Co., Wis and in Waushara, Wis. In fact the family >lived in several areas of Wis. They had moved from NY to Canada in 1783, >into Maine ca 1830, to Jefferson Co., Wis. in abt 1853, then to Portage >Co.,Wis., then to Minn. by 1870 then on to So. Dakota and back to Minn and >Superior, Wis. > >Anything sound famliar to you? > >Jean R > >

Hi all, This site is great for finding cemeteries in all states, and has links to a lot of them with listings. http://www.daddezio.com/cemetery/ ~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~ Connie Maness Bolivar http://www.starkeeper.net FAX: 425-790-4080 List Manager for MANES-L and MANESS-L Mailing Lists ~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~ Researching the names { ANDERSON, BOLIN, CONDLEY, JULIAN, MANESS, MANES, MARTIN, McCULLAH, SANSBURY, SHORT, SPARKMAN, and WHITE} Since 1983 ~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~ Genealogy begins as an interest, Becomes a hobby; Continues as an avocation, Takes over as an obsession, And in its last stages, Is an incurable disease.

This is an amazing site for the graves of famous, or infamous people. I found pictures of Jesse James in his coffin. He is in the Missouri section. http://www.findagrave.com/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Rilla <rilla@ixi.net> To: <WHITE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2000 1:46 AM Subject: Re: [WHITE] White Brothers, rode with Jessie James > Ya know...... it just seems to me that all these WHITEs hanging out in the > same area and being involved with the same people - almost HAD to be > related somewhere!! Maybe it's my imagination - but a little bell is > tinkling in my head about this. > > And I dunno about you folks - but my WHITE ancestors are serious brick > walls, and have been to the family for over 100 years! I'm not the first > one to try to straighten out this mess! And it also seems to me that they > never wanted anyone to figure any of this out!! > > All I have on them is this: > > Father: Probably Nazareth White (I have a little more on him, but I won't > include it here) > > Son: CC White - Possibly Cal or Calvin White - rode with Jesse James. He > was my grandmother's Uncle. I think he's buried in Wichita Falls, TX. > > Daughter: Rilla Dudley - Dudley is only one of many maiden names I have > for her. She was a Cherokee and sister to CC. (My grandmother's mother.) > > Mother used to take us to "visit the cousins" on the reservation. These > relatives - were probably WHITEs, Dudleys, Webbs, Smiths, etc. > > So - two WHITE brothers run off to ride with Jesse James and the > crowd. Who'se to say their cousin or younger brother CC didn't chase off > after them?? > > Any one got any input on this?? Maybe I should just stay outa this! LOL > > Thanks!! > > Rilla > > > > At 10:01 PM 5/13/2000, you wrote: > >i too have a white in my family. his name was william c. white married to > >mary reeves and lived in alabama as far as we know. know his two boys were > >born in alabama. i am also interested to see if any of your books on the > >james gang encludes a names of boley or boleypaugh. my grandfather was henry > >b. boley and he use to tell about the james and daltons come by his place > >for food when they were on the run. he lived in red river co. texas at the > >time on the border of texas and oklahoma. some believe he rode with them but > >never found any proof. do have a pictures of him and my grandmother with > >the bass boys and two of the daltons so perhaps the stories are true. > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Red Anthony" <redpata@hotmail.com> > >To: <WHITE-L@rootsweb.com> > >Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2000 6:20 PM > >Subject: Re: [WHITE] White Brothers, rode with Jessie James > > > > > > > Rilla: You were probably the one that contacted me before. At this link, > > > U.K.,,is where I found the list of Quantrill's Raiders. It has James and > > > John White listed. > > > > > > http://www.ukans.edu/heritage/research/quantrill.txt > > > > > > This got me interested in Quantrill and the James Gang..I have lots of > >Civil > > > War Books, but not much on these two. I just ordered 3 books from Amazon, > > > they are: > > > 1. The Devil Knows how to Ride,,,The true Story of William Clarke > >Quantrill > > > and his Confederate Raiders. > > > This is a large book,,over 400 pages,,and I haven't read it yet, and the > > > index is not very good. > > > > > > 2.Three Years with Quantrill, by his Scout, John McCorkle. > > > He didn't give lots of names, and its good reading, but the James and John > > > White are not mentioned. Its about 250 pages and I have finished it. > > > > > > 3.Jesse James Was His Name, by William Settle. > > > I am reading it now. The White brothers are listed in the index of this > > > book. On page 36,,,this was one of the first bank robberies blamed on the > > > James Gang. It was supposed to have been Jesse & Frank James and 10 > >others. > > > The robbery was at the Hughes & Wasson Bank, Richmond, Missouri, on May > >22, > > > 1867. Warrents were later issued for 7 of the men, including James & John > > > White. This is all I've found so far. If you have access to any other > >books > > > on Quantrill or Jesse James, I would like to know if you find anything. > > > > > > This is how I connect to a couple of brothers, James & John White; > > > My G.G.Grandfather was Burgess White, b.1808, S.C., d. 1869, in Blount > > > County, Alabama. One of his brothers, Elbert White, also born in S.C., > >lived > > > in Walker Co., Al., moved to McNairy Co. Tn., before 1850, then moved to > > > Polk County, Arkansas about 1855,,and was there in the 1860 census, and > > > James, b. abt. 1838, and John, b. abt.1846, were living at home. They > >were > > > in the right place,,right time and about the right age, but will probably > >be > > > inpossible to find out if they are the outlaws. > > > Red Anthony > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > > > >

Red, I have been reading this controversy about the Whites riding with the James gang with interest. I , too, am a White. My Whites came from ME, WI and MO. There were so many in a family probably some did go to the South. Anyway, I have a brother who is red haired and they did call him Red White. When I read what you had written , I just had to comment on it. I'm in Ok so it is with interest , that I am seeing that some of the White families you are talking about live here in OK. Elnora White Bowen of Sapulpa, OK SWTEB@aol.com

George White, son of Robert White ,son of Elisha, son of John White. He was the first White to come to Caldwell County, Kentucky. Came first to Bourbon County and then to Caldwell. George's son John Nelson White was the father of my grandfather Robert Wylie White, who was the father of my dad, Shellie Edwin White.

You know guys I watch the History channel alot, I love the civil war journals, and I remember watching a show on James' brothers, and that did come up, I didn't have the sense to write down names, of the men involved. If you get a chance to watch, this show it is very interesting! Take care, Princess The names John and James run all throughout my lines! ----- Original Message ----- From: Red Anthony <redpata@hotmail.com> To: <WHITE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2000 5:20 PM Subject: Re: [WHITE] White Brothers, rode with Jessie James > Rilla: You were probably the one that contacted me before. At this link, > U.K.,,is where I found the list of Quantrill's Raiders. It has James and > John White listed. > > http://www.ukans.edu/heritage/research/quantrill.txt > > This got me interested in Quantrill and the James Gang..I have lots of Civil > War Books, but not much on these two. I just ordered 3 books from Amazon, > they are: > 1. The Devil Knows how to Ride,,,The true Story of William Clarke Quantrill > and his Confederate Raiders. > This is a large book,,over 400 pages,,and I haven't read it yet, and the > index is not very good. > > 2.Three Years with Quantrill, by his Scout, John McCorkle. > He didn't give lots of names, and its good reading, but the James and John > White are not mentioned. Its about 250 pages and I have finished it. > > 3.Jesse James Was His Name, by William Settle. > I am reading it now. The White brothers are listed in the index of this > book. On page 36,,,this was one of the first bank robberies blamed on the > James Gang. It was supposed to have been Jesse & Frank James and 10 others. > The robbery was at the Hughes & Wasson Bank, Richmond, Missouri, on May 22, > 1867. Warrents were later issued for 7 of the men, including James & John > White. This is all I've found so far. If you have access to any other books > on Quantrill or Jesse James, I would like to know if you find anything. > > This is how I connect to a couple of brothers, James & John White; > My G.G.Grandfather was Burgess White, b.1808, S.C., d. 1869, in Blount > County, Alabama. One of his brothers, Elbert White, also born in S.C., lived > in Walker Co., Al., moved to McNairy Co. Tn., before 1850, then moved to > Polk County, Arkansas about 1855,,and was there in the 1860 census, and > James, b. abt. 1838, and John, b. abt.1846, were living at home. They were > in the right place,,right time and about the right age, but will probably be > inpossible to find out if they are the outlaws. > Red Anthony > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com >

Princess, I think you and I have corresponded before ,but can you tell me if you have a James b.in Russell Co otr Tazewell Co Va in 1852 or John White b.1880?in Russell Co. Va?John would have had a son named Columbus(my grandfather) Kathy

Red Anthony wrote: > > Green White?! Please - say it aint so!! > Sigh..... Rilla Dudley White married William Irb Ginn and had two > children: Delia Mae Ginn married Henry Curtis GREEN and had four children. > Eventually, in 1955, I showed up. > I think I'm going to bed now... Rilla > > Rilla: Did you dream about Green Jesse riding a Pink horse,,,LOL > > I have a cousin, Green White also,,b.1881, in Alabama, his family left Al. > shortly afterwards,,ended up in the Seminole and Poteau, Oklahoma areas. > I also have a "Pink" White and a Gray White. If we had took our Grandma > White's name instead of Grandpa Anthony, I might have been "Red White". If > that had happened, I would have had to named one of my boys, "Blue". ha > Red Anthony > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com I have one Charles White that married Jane Green, and another Charles White that married Jane Glass. Both families had a daughter that married Hall brothers. All from Ireland to Ontario, Canada. Bill Grimes

Green White?! Please - say it aint so!! Sigh..... Rilla Dudley White married William Irb Ginn and had two children: Delia Mae Ginn married Henry Curtis GREEN and had four children. Eventually, in 1955, I showed up. I think I'm going to bed now... Rilla Rilla: Did you dream about Green Jesse riding a Pink horse,,,LOL I have a cousin, Green White also,,b.1881, in Alabama, his family left Al. shortly afterwards,,ended up in the Seminole and Poteau, Oklahoma areas. I also have a "Pink" White and a Gray White. If we had took our Grandma White's name instead of Grandpa Anthony, I might have been "Red White". If that had happened, I would have had to named one of my boys, "Blue". ha Red Anthony ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

Dorthy , Make that where were your Whites from?

Dorthy, Who were your Whites from Va? Kathy

Hello List: Someone asked about the name Boley being connected to the James Gang,,,and I have not found it so far. Texas was a favorite place for the Civil War Guerrillas and later after the war, for the James Gang. I have found several references to Bonham, Texas as a winter quarters for the Guerrillas. The men that rode with Quantrill were probably born before 1850, as he started in 1861 and was killed in early 1865. Frank James was with him most of the time, and was there in Kentucky when the war ended and Quantrill died. Jesse James, just 16 when he joined the raiders, had left them and went with a group to Texas. After the War is when the James Gang was started. Jesse learned his trade from the best, or worst, the likes of Quantrill, "Bloody Bill" Anderson, and George Todd, who was probably the best and smartest of the Raiders. Todd was probably the bravest, and was the best with a hand gun. He took over the raiders and drove Quantrill away at gunpoint, this is when he took a small group and went to Kentucky. Jesse's gang started about 1866-67, and lasted over 15 years. He had many different members, and was in contact with hundreds of people in this length of time,,,guess that's the reason there are so many Jesse James stories. With the common surname , White, there were surly many who met Jesse. I hope our list owner doesn't get tired of the James Gang. LOL Red Anthony ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

Jean, Thanks so much for the help, I'll center my search there & see what I can dig up. Courtlee

Hi Rilla, I will claim you as a cousin although my WHITEs came from Virginia and settled in Caldwell County, Ky. where I grew up. There are a lot of us Whites, I keep being surprised at how prolific we were. But wonderful folks who gave us a great heritage. Love, Dorothy White Harkins

Hi all, I have a James Green White born 20 Jan 1854. Would he fit in there anywhere? ~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~ Connie Maness Bolivar http://www.starkeeper.net FAX: 425-790-4080 List Manager for MANES-L and MANESS-L Mailing Lists ~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~ Researching the names { ANDERSON, BOLIN, CONDLEY, JULIAN, MANESS, MANES, MARTIN, McCULLAH, SANSBURY, SHORT, SPARKMAN, and WHITE} Since 1983 ~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~ Genealogy begins as an interest, Becomes a hobby; Continues as an avocation, Takes over as an obsession, And in its last stages, Is an incurable disease. ----- Original Message ----- From: Rilla <rilla@ixi.net> To: <WHITE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2000 1:46 AM Subject: Re: [WHITE] White Brothers, rode with Jessie James > Ya know...... it just seems to me that all these WHITEs hanging out in the > same area and being involved with the same people - almost HAD to be > related somewhere!! Maybe it's my imagination - but a little bell is > tinkling in my head about this. > > And I dunno about you folks - but my WHITE ancestors are serious brick > walls, and have been to the family for over 100 years! I'm not the first > one to try to straighten out this mess! And it also seems to me that they > never wanted anyone to figure any of this out!! > > All I have on them is this: > > Father: Probably Nazareth White (I have a little more on him, but I won't > include it here) > > Son: CC White - Possibly Cal or Calvin White - rode with Jesse James. He > was my grandmother's Uncle. I think he's buried in Wichita Falls, TX. > > Daughter: Rilla Dudley - Dudley is only one of many maiden names I have > for her. She was a Cherokee and sister to CC. (My grandmother's mother.) > > Mother used to take us to "visit the cousins" on the reservation. These > relatives - were probably WHITEs, Dudleys, Webbs, Smiths, etc. > > So - two WHITE brothers run off to ride with Jesse James and the > crowd. Who'se to say their cousin or younger brother CC didn't chase off > after them?? > > Any one got any input on this?? Maybe I should just stay outa this! LOL > > Thanks!! > > Rilla > > > > At 10:01 PM 5/13/2000, you wrote: > >i too have a white in my family. his name was william c. white married to > >mary reeves and lived in alabama as far as we know. know his two boys were > >born in alabama. i am also interested to see if any of your books on the > >james gang encludes a names of boley or boleypaugh. my grandfather was henry > >b. boley and he use to tell about the james and daltons come by his place > >for food when they were on the run. he lived in red river co. texas at the > >time on the border of texas and oklahoma. some believe he rode with them but > >never found any proof. do have a pictures of him and my grandmother with > >the bass boys and two of the daltons so perhaps the stories are true. > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Red Anthony" <redpata@hotmail.com> > >To: <WHITE-L@rootsweb.com> > >Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2000 6:20 PM > >Subject: Re: [WHITE] White Brothers, rode with Jessie James > > > > > > > Rilla: You were probably the one that contacted me before. At this link, > > > U.K.,,is where I found the list of Quantrill's Raiders. It has James and > > > John White listed. > > > > > > http://www.ukans.edu/heritage/research/quantrill.txt > > > > > > This got me interested in Quantrill and the James Gang..I have lots of > >Civil > > > War Books, but not much on these two. I just ordered 3 books from Amazon, > > > they are: > > > 1. The Devil Knows how to Ride,,,The true Story of William Clarke > >Quantrill > > > and his Confederate Raiders. > > > This is a large book,,over 400 pages,,and I haven't read it yet, and the > > > index is not very good. > > > > > > 2.Three Years with Quantrill, by his Scout, John McCorkle. > > > He didn't give lots of names, and its good reading, but the James and John > > > White are not mentioned. Its about 250 pages and I have finished it. > > > > > > 3.Jesse James Was His Name, by William Settle. > > > I am reading it now. The White brothers are listed in the index of this > > > book. On page 36,,,this was one of the first bank robberies blamed on the > > > James Gang. It was supposed to have been Jesse & Frank James and 10 > >others. > > > The robbery was at the Hughes & Wasson Bank, Richmond, Missouri, on May > >22, > > > 1867. Warrents were later issued for 7 of the men, including James & John > > > White. This is all I've found so far. If you have access to any other > >books > > > on Quantrill or Jesse James, I would like to know if you find anything. > > > > > > This is how I connect to a couple of brothers, James & John White; > > > My G.G.Grandfather was Burgess White, b.1808, S.C., d. 1869, in Blount > > > County, Alabama. One of his brothers, Elbert White, also born in S.C., > >lived > > > in Walker Co., Al., moved to McNairy Co. Tn., before 1850, then moved to > > > Polk County, Arkansas about 1855,,and was there in the 1860 census, and > > > James, b. abt. 1838, and John, b. abt.1846, were living at home. They > >were > > > in the right place,,right time and about the right age, but will probably > >be > > > inpossible to find out if they are the outlaws. > > > Red Anthony > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > > > >

Green White?! Please - say it aint so!! Sigh..... Rilla Dudley White married William Irb Ginn and had two children: Delia Mae Ginn married Henry Curtis GREEN and had four children. Eventually, in 1955, I showed up. I think I'm going to bed now... Rilla At 02:13 AM 5/14/2000, you wrote: >Hi all, > >I have a James Green White born 20 Jan 1854. Would he fit in there >anywhere? > >~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~ >Connie Maness Bolivar >http://www.starkeeper.net >FAX: 425-790-4080 >List Manager for MANES-L and >MANESS-L Mailing Lists >~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~ >Researching the names { ANDERSON, BOLIN, >CONDLEY, JULIAN, MANESS, MANES, MARTIN, >McCULLAH, SANSBURY, SHORT, SPARKMAN, >and WHITE} >Since 1983 >~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~ >Genealogy begins as an interest, Becomes a hobby; >Continues as an avocation, Takes over as an obsession, >And in its last stages, Is an incurable disease. > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Rilla <rilla@ixi.net> >To: <WHITE-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2000 1:46 AM >Subject: Re: [WHITE] White Brothers, rode with Jessie James > > > > Ya know...... it just seems to me that all these WHITEs hanging out in the > > same area and being involved with the same people - almost HAD to be > > related somewhere!! Maybe it's my imagination - but a little bell is > > tinkling in my head about this. > > > > And I dunno about you folks - but my WHITE ancestors are serious brick > > walls, and have been to the family for over 100 years! I'm not the first > > one to try to straighten out this mess! And it also seems to me that they > > never wanted anyone to figure any of this out!! > > > > All I have on them is this: > > > > Father: Probably Nazareth White (I have a little more on him, but I won't > > include it here) > > > > Son: CC White - Possibly Cal or Calvin White - rode with Jesse James. He > > was my grandmother's Uncle. I think he's buried in Wichita Falls, TX. > > > > Daughter: Rilla Dudley - Dudley is only one of many maiden names I have > > for her. She was a Cherokee and sister to CC. (My grandmother's mother.) > > > > Mother used to take us to "visit the cousins" on the reservation. These > > relatives - were probably WHITEs, Dudleys, Webbs, Smiths, etc. > > > > So - two WHITE brothers run off to ride with Jesse James and the > > crowd. Who'se to say their cousin or younger brother CC didn't chase off > > after them?? > > > > Any one got any input on this?? Maybe I should just stay outa this! LOL > > > > Thanks!! > > > > Rilla > > > > > > > > At 10:01 PM 5/13/2000, you wrote: > > >i too have a white in my family. his name was william c. white married to > > >mary reeves and lived in alabama as far as we know. know his two boys >were > > >born in alabama. i am also interested to see if any of your books on the > > >james gang encludes a names of boley or boleypaugh. my grandfather was >henry > > >b. boley and he use to tell about the james and daltons come by his place > > >for food when they were on the run. he lived in red river co. texas at >the > > >time on the border of texas and oklahoma. some believe he rode with them >but > > >never found any proof. do have a pictures of him and my grandmother with > > >the bass boys and two of the daltons so perhaps the stories are true. > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: "Red Anthony" <redpata@hotmail.com> > > >To: <WHITE-L@rootsweb.com> > > >Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2000 6:20 PM > > >Subject: Re: [WHITE] White Brothers, rode with Jessie James > > > > > > > > > > Rilla: You were probably the one that contacted me before. At this >link, > > > > U.K.,,is where I found the list of Quantrill's Raiders. It has James >and > > > > John White listed. > > > > > > > > http://www.ukans.edu/heritage/research/quantrill.txt > > > > > > > > This got me interested in Quantrill and the James Gang..I have lots of > > >Civil > > > > War Books, but not much on these two. I just ordered 3 books from >Amazon, > > > > they are: > > > > 1. The Devil Knows how to Ride,,,The true Story of William Clarke > > >Quantrill > > > > and his Confederate Raiders. > > > > This is a large book,,over 400 pages,,and I haven't read it yet, and >the > > > > index is not very good. > > > > > > > > 2.Three Years with Quantrill, by his Scout, John McCorkle. > > > > He didn't give lots of names, and its good reading, but the James and >John > > > > White are not mentioned. Its about 250 pages and I have finished it. > > > > > > > > 3.Jesse James Was His Name, by William Settle. > > > > I am reading it now. The White brothers are listed in the index of >this > > > > book. On page 36,,,this was one of the first bank robberies blamed on >the > > > > James Gang. It was supposed to have been Jesse & Frank James and 10 > > >others. > > > > The robbery was at the Hughes & Wasson Bank, Richmond, Missouri, on >May > > >22, > > > > 1867. Warrents were later issued for 7 of the men, including James & >John > > > > White. This is all I've found so far. If you have access to any other > > >books > > > > on Quantrill or Jesse James, I would like to know if you find >anything. > > > > > > > > This is how I connect to a couple of brothers, James & John White; > > > > My G.G.Grandfather was Burgess White, b.1808, S.C., d. 1869, in Blount > > > > County, Alabama. One of his brothers, Elbert White, also born in S.C., > > >lived > > > > in Walker Co., Al., moved to McNairy Co. Tn., before 1850, then moved >to > > > > Polk County, Arkansas about 1855,,and was there in the 1860 census, >and > > > > James, b. abt. 1838, and John, b. abt.1846, were living at home. They > > >were > > > > in the right place,,right time and about the right age, but will >probably > > >be > > > > inpossible to find out if they are the outlaws. > > > > Red Anthony > > > > >________________________________________________________________________ > > > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at >http://www.hotmail.com > > > > > > > >

Ya know...... it just seems to me that all these WHITEs hanging out in the same area and being involved with the same people - almost HAD to be related somewhere!! Maybe it's my imagination - but a little bell is tinkling in my head about this. And I dunno about you folks - but my WHITE ancestors are serious brick walls, and have been to the family for over 100 years! I'm not the first one to try to straighten out this mess! And it also seems to me that they never wanted anyone to figure any of this out!! All I have on them is this: Father: Probably Nazareth White (I have a little more on him, but I won't include it here) Son: CC White - Possibly Cal or Calvin White - rode with Jesse James. He was my grandmother's Uncle. I think he's buried in Wichita Falls, TX. Daughter: Rilla Dudley - Dudley is only one of many maiden names I have for her. She was a Cherokee and sister to CC. (My grandmother's mother.) Mother used to take us to "visit the cousins" on the reservation. These relatives - were probably WHITEs, Dudleys, Webbs, Smiths, etc. So - two WHITE brothers run off to ride with Jesse James and the crowd. Who'se to say their cousin or younger brother CC didn't chase off after them?? Any one got any input on this?? Maybe I should just stay outa this! LOL Thanks!! Rilla At 10:01 PM 5/13/2000, you wrote: >i too have a white in my family. his name was william c. white married to >mary reeves and lived in alabama as far as we know. know his two boys were >born in alabama. i am also interested to see if any of your books on the >james gang encludes a names of boley or boleypaugh. my grandfather was henry >b. boley and he use to tell about the james and daltons come by his place >for food when they were on the run. he lived in red river co. texas at the >time on the border of texas and oklahoma. some believe he rode with them but >never found any proof. do have a pictures of him and my grandmother with >the bass boys and two of the daltons so perhaps the stories are true. >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Red Anthony" <redpata@hotmail.com> >To: <WHITE-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2000 6:20 PM >Subject: Re: [WHITE] White Brothers, rode with Jessie James > > > > Rilla: You were probably the one that contacted me before. At this link, > > U.K.,,is where I found the list of Quantrill's Raiders. It has James and > > John White listed. > > > > http://www.ukans.edu/heritage/research/quantrill.txt > > > > This got me interested in Quantrill and the James Gang..I have lots of >Civil > > War Books, but not much on these two. I just ordered 3 books from Amazon, > > they are: > > 1. The Devil Knows how to Ride,,,The true Story of William Clarke >Quantrill > > and his Confederate Raiders. > > This is a large book,,over 400 pages,,and I haven't read it yet, and the > > index is not very good. > > > > 2.Three Years with Quantrill, by his Scout, John McCorkle. > > He didn't give lots of names, and its good reading, but the James and John > > White are not mentioned. Its about 250 pages and I have finished it. > > > > 3.Jesse James Was His Name, by William Settle. > > I am reading it now. The White brothers are listed in the index of this > > book. On page 36,,,this was one of the first bank robberies blamed on the > > James Gang. It was supposed to have been Jesse & Frank James and 10 >others. > > The robbery was at the Hughes & Wasson Bank, Richmond, Missouri, on May >22, > > 1867. Warrents were later issued for 7 of the men, including James & John > > White. This is all I've found so far. If you have access to any other >books > > on Quantrill or Jesse James, I would like to know if you find anything. > > > > This is how I connect to a couple of brothers, James & John White; > > My G.G.Grandfather was Burgess White, b.1808, S.C., d. 1869, in Blount > > County, Alabama. One of his brothers, Elbert White, also born in S.C., >lived > > in Walker Co., Al., moved to McNairy Co. Tn., before 1850, then moved to > > Polk County, Arkansas about 1855,,and was there in the 1860 census, and > > James, b. abt. 1838, and John, b. abt.1846, were living at home. They >were > > in the right place,,right time and about the right age, but will probably >be > > inpossible to find out if they are the outlaws. > > Red Anthony > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > >