Do either of you know if these White's connect with the Charlotte Co., Va White's? Thank you Marsha ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barry Wetherington" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 11:37 PM Subject: [WHITE] Eleanor White d/o Gov John White 1587 > Hello John, > > I just joined here seeking Chuck Gleeson (or his research), the Genealogist that researched the Gov John White line back to the 1087s. Any ideas? I need that for my research of the Lost Colony Eleanor White m/o US first citizen VA Dare & d/o UK Gov John White 1587. > > Regards, > > Barry Wetherington > PS: I do have the Sir Walter Raleigh ordered Arms/ Crest of John White and of each of his titled managers. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: John White > To: [email protected] > Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 9:45 PM > Subject: white family > > > Dear White Family Researcher: > > I have Essex Co., England Whites which are of my ancestral line. I would love to see the pedigree of your Chelmsford Whites to 1087. I have my line from England to 1041. Does your line get out of Essex Co.? Would like to know where... > > Hope to hear from you. > > Best, John White > > > ==== WHITE Mailing List ==== > WHITE LIST ADMINISTRATOR > <[email protected]> >

Hello John, I just joined here seeking Chuck Gleeson (or his research), the Genealogist that researched the Gov John White line back to the 1087s. Any ideas? I need that for my research of the Lost Colony Eleanor White m/o US first citizen VA Dare & d/o UK Gov John White 1587. Regards, Barry Wetherington PS: I do have the Sir Walter Raleigh ordered Arms/ Crest of John White and of each of his titled managers. ----- Original Message ----- From: John White To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 9:45 PM Subject: white family Dear White Family Researcher: I have Essex Co., England Whites which are of my ancestral line. I would love to see the pedigree of your Chelmsford Whites to 1087. I have my line from England to 1041. Does your line get out of Essex Co.? Would like to know where... Hope to hear from you. Best, John White

"Gov. John WHITE, who was the Grandfather to Virginia DARE, was born May 12, 1540 in Chelmsford, Essex, England and died sometime after February 4, 1592/1593 in Newtowne, in Kylmore, Galway, Ireland." (see below) "I have just completed the line of Virginia Dare ancestors back to approximately 1087, thru her Grandfather Gov. John White. If anyone is interested, please post to this site"? [Chuck Gleason - See messages below]. Hi White Lists, The original of this msg didn't seem to reach the White Lists, Barry QUERY!!!: Is this (below) THE Chuck Gleason (II) [The Old Roots Searcher] who had the White ancestryship information, and left us this message: "I have just completed the line of Virginia Dare ancestors back to approximately 1087, thru her Grandfather Gov. John White. If anyone is interested, please post to this site"? [See messages below]. If so, has someone taken over the Genealogical Quest of Mr Gleason? Is son "Charles H. Gleason III of Sylmar, CA. and his wife, Lee of Albuquerque." the Genealogist? ... or taking over the what seems very useful research of Charles (Chuck) H.Gleason II? : "Charles H.Gleason II, 86, a resident of Albuquerque passed away on August 3, 2003. He was born Feb 17, 1917 in Scotts Bluff, Nebraska to Charles Herbert Gleason and Hazel Pauline Martin Gleason. A graduate of USC University of Southern Cal and served with the Dept of the Navy during the war. For many years Mr. Gleason owned and operated saw mills and lumber mills in Washington and Oregon states. Charles was an avid and accomplished sailor and spent many years on the water. Charles is survived by one son, Charles H. Gleason III of Sylmar, CA. and by his wife, Lee of Albuquerque. Cremation will occur and scattering of the ashes will take place in California later this year." http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/GLEASON/2003-08/1060574732 Barry Wetherington [email protected] & [email protected] Birmingham MI 48009 =================== Hi Kim Power & Syd Satchfield; (& Chuck Gleason) (This is a large msg - hope it fits in the size constraints of Rootweb) Re: Robert Satchfeild & John Dare (s/o Ananias Dare b/o VA Dare d/o Eleanor White w/o John White leader of the Lost Colony 1587) (discussed by Chuck Gleason - see at the bottom) ; Va Dare 1587 d/o Ananias b/o John Dare/Satchfield Gov White Ancestors (& Chuck Gleason [[email protected]] - VERY MUCH like your VA Dare ancestors - very important for our Dare-L Rootsweb List, see our Archives (FREE) at: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/d/dare.html) ===================== Re: Robert Satchfeild & John Dare (s/o Ananias Dare b/o VA Dare d/o Eleanor White w/o John White leader of the Lost Colony (discussed by Chuck Gleason - see at the bottom) Kim, Thank you for your thorough reply. You will make me work, but this is potentially important and interesting. Barry Wetherington, Birmingham Michigan 48009 PS: If anyone can fwd this on to Chuck Gleason, please do so w/my enthusiastic 'THANKS". ====================== Message Just Received Follows - Re: Va Dare 1587 d/o Ananias, b/o John Dare/Satchfield/Satchfeild (note 2 possible spellings. bw) Posted by: Kim Power (ID *****8834) Date: November 07, 2003 at 18:10:51 In Reply to: Va Dare 1587 d/o Ananias, b/o John Dare by Barry Wetherington of 312 http://genforum.genealogy.com/dare/messages/312.html Syd Satchfield and myself, (my grandmother was a Satchfield), are tracing our english Satchfield line. Syd has traced a lot of the early information and we have got back as far as the late 1600's with a possible link to Gilbert Satchfield (about 1527 - 1576). ~~~~~~~~~~ [Insert by Barry bw 11/8/03 - Important New UK research resources have just come online - go here: -You can now download Free more data from the The National (UK) Archives, more than a million documents, from UK databases - to include, as ONE EXAMPLE of many, search and on DocumentsOnline download all Prerogative Court of Canterbury wills. They cover the period from 1384 to 1858. Searching the index is free and you can search by first and last name, place, occupation and date. It costs UK £3 to download a digital image of a will in PDF format. (This is not an intuitive site to use, and the Link URL is weird looking: http://64.4.8.250/cgi-bin/linkrd?_lang=EN&lah=6040994ab1b3a5d4913a478fe2ec3355&lat=1068238714&hm___action=http%3a%2f%2fwww%2edocumentsonline%2epro%2egov%2euk%2fdefault%2easp (remember to insure the entire Link is pasted into the Window - or double click directly on this Link above) *** Persevere & you will be rewarded!. & perhaps just as important and much easier, the 2d UK site: NO!!http://www.a2a.pro.gov.uk/FamHist.htm NO!!! A2A has a new URL! Please use http://www.a2a.org.uk next time you visit!] 2 catalogues were found to match satchfield Shown below are catalogues 1 to 2 (of 2) Search Satchfield: * Devon Record Office: Sowton Parish 1639-1963 2 hit(s) * Devon Record Office: Withycombe Raleigh Parish 1657-1860 1 hit(s) http://www.a2a.org.uk/search/doclist.asp?nb=0&com=1&keyword=satchfield (zero for 'Satchfeild' here) ====================== "the Dare-White marriage at St. Bride's ... October 1587" . . . . . . . . Ananias Dare of St. Bride Parish, after an absence of seven years, was legally declared to have died overseas. A number of twentieth century sources name St. Bride's as being the site of the marriage of Ananias Dare and Elinor White, future parents of Virginia Dare, the first English child born in America. This notion apparently is based on THE PHOENIX OF FLEET STREET, 2000 YEARS OF ST. BRIDE'S a book published in 1973 by the then rector of the parish. Since the Probate Acts naming Ananias as a parishoner had come to light in the late 1950's, the "American Connection" no doubt stimulating a bit of interest and excitement, the Dare-White marriage at St. Bride's would seem to represent a leap of faith rather than a known fact. Entries in the St. Bride's Parish Register at the Guildhall in London beain eaith October 1587. Therefore, it is not possible that the marriage is documented therein since Ananias and Elinor had been on Roanoke for seven months by that time and indeed, Virginia Dare had been born in August. A register pre-dating the one currently kept at the Guildhall is not known to exist and a record of the Dare-White union has not been found in other parish registers or in London marriage indexes. While it is possible that the marriage took place at St. Bride's, our current research casts more than a reasonable doubt on the probability. It is far more likely that the marriage took place at the bride's church or perhaps at a country home, which according to other parish and marriage records, seemed to be the prevailing custom of the day. . . . . . . ..."grants of arms to the colony's Governor John White " (I have these arms. bw 11/10/03) Ananias Dare in the Grant of Arms to the City of Raleigh: When Sir Walter Raleigh, acting under the charter granted him by the Queen on 25 March 1584, incorporated the Governor and Assistants of the City of Raleigh in Virginia, he procured from William Dethick, Garter Principal King of Arms a grant of arms for his new city. Within this grant were incorporated individual grants of arms to the colony's Governor John White and to his Asssistants, one of whom was his son-in-lava Ananias Dare. The actual grant has disappeared but three drafts survive - thanks to William Dethick whose custom it was to make several drafts of his grants. Two of the surviving drafts are owned by the College of Arms in London and one by Queen's College, oxford. Whether or not the grant was actually made is not known but it seems highly probable that it was. Since three drafts survive, at least that number were prepared, each more definitive than the last, fees ,-muld have been paid and therefore, a firm intention to grant had existed. The heraldry contained therein is ambiguous and leaves many questions unanswered. From the College of Arms Vincent Manuscript, Volume 157, Folio 397: ' . . . . Ananyas Dare (a feelde gules') his heires offspring and posterity forever, these Armes or Ensignes of Honor following: Viz. a feelde gules, A cross engrailed between Four Fusils Argent." The fusils argent on a field gules which appear on the Governor's [White] and all the Assistant's arms are an unmistakable reference to the arms of Sir Walter Raleigh. However, study of individual arms clearly depict heraldic charges not based on the Raleigh arms. For example, the arms of Simon Fernando contain an obvious reference to his profession of mariner, two bars wavy azure. It would therefore seem possible that King of Arms Dethick incorporated personal and individual charges into the arms of other Assistants, perhaps not as immediately obvious as Fernando's, that reflects their respective trades, guilds or family connections. The arms of George Howe, Roanoke Assistant incorporates three wolves heads couped. The will of John Howe, Grocer of London who died in 1574, contains a marginal sketch of his arms incorporating three almost identical couped wolves heads. A definite link between the Grocer and the ill-fated Roanoke Assistant has not been made as yet, but the similar Howe heraldry must be more than coincidental. In the case of Ananias Dare, the silver fusils and red field are an obvious refernce to Raleigh but there are no readily discernable clues to the Assistant's family identity or heraldic reference to his guild, the Bricklayer-Tilers. While crosses are quite common in heraldry, only Ananias Dare and Roger Bailey have them incorporated into their arms, a cross engrailed for the former and a cross pattee for the latter. Also noteworthy is the fact that the name of Dare always follows Bailey's in both the Grant of Arms and Hakluyt's listing of Assistants. Moreover, Bailey and Dare are the two Assistant names that always follow the name of Governor John White. Was the incorporation of a cross for both the Bailey and Dare arms simply a matter of random choice, coincidental personal preference, or was there some significance to the choice, perhaps and indication of an Assistant "pecking order." The possibility of a Dare-Bailey link is further strengthened by the occurence of the christian names "ANANIAS" and "SACKFEILD" in the Bailey line during the first quarter of the 17th century in parishes bordering on or close to St. Bride's. (IGI) Dare of Norfolk Arms... also Satchfeild and Nokes. EXPAND. > > Continuing in Grant of Arms: " ....consitute made and appointed John White of London, Gentleman, to be chief governor there and Roger Baily, Ananyas Dare, Christopher Cooper William Full:aood, Roger Pratt, Dyonise Harvey, John Nicholls, George Howe . . . . . . . . . &. . . . . . . . . . . London, Gentlemen to be twelve assistants there. . . " It is not known with any degree of certainty whether or not Ananias Dare was a "gentleman" in the social context of the 16th century or given the title to lend dignity to his role as an assistant to the governor. ....... D:\DATA\DATFMMIC\PERSONAL\GENEALGY\WETHERIN\WITHER\DARE\ANANIAS2.WPD July 11, 2000 12:51PM ... ============ "Gov. John WHITE, who was the Grandfather to Virginia DARE, he was born May 12, 1540 in Chelmsford, Essex, England and died sometime after February 4, 1592/1593 in Newtowne, in Kylmore, Galway, Ireland." http://genforum.genealogy.com/dare/messages/236.html Virginia Dare 1587 - 1st American Born Posted by: Chuck GleasonDate: March 21, 2001 at 16:21:20 of 312 I have just completed the line of Virginia Dare ancestors back to approximately 1087, thru her Grandfather Gov. John White. If anyone is interested, please post to this site. http://genforum.genealogy.com/dare/messages/140.html . . . . . . Re: Virginia DARE, Born 1587 Roanoke Island Posted by: Chuck GleasonDate: January 16, 2002 at 11:51:31 In Reply to: Re: Virginia DARE, Born 1587 Roanoke Island by lebame houston of 312 Guess I should get back to this site more often. If you are referring to the Gov. John WHITE, who was the Grandfather to Virginia DARE, he was born May 12, 1540 in Chelmsford, Essex, England and died sometime after February 4, 1592/1593 in Newtowne, in Kylmore, Galway, Ireland. http://genforum.genealogy.com/dare/messages/236.html Re: Virginia Dare 1587 - 1st American Born Posted by: Chuck Gleason Date: July 02, 2001 at 17:10:22 In Reply to: Re: Virginia Dare 1587 - 1st American Born by Sheila Corrall of 312 Her fathers name was Ananias DARE, born about 1563. http://genforum.genealogy.com/dare/messages/178.html Re: Virginia Dare 1587 - 1st American Born Posted by: Chuck GleasonDate: July 01, 2001 at 05:34:42 In Reply to: Re: Virginia Dare 1587 - 1st American Born by Sheila Corrall of 312 Sheila: I am sorry to say, other than her father's name that is all I have on the DARE family. My connection is through her mother (the WHITE) line. Her grandfather was Gov. John WHITE, of Virginia, who made several voyages to America. Wish I could have helped you more. Sincerely, Chuck Gleason http://genforum.genealogy.com/dare/messages/176.html ==================== PPS: I have the quite beautiful Images of all the Arms /Crests of the titled that sailed with John White, including of White & Ananias Dare. I can send them email, altho they are large in electronic size. bw 11/07/03

Is anyone related to Peter White, born in NY c. 1792? Married Ann, surname unknown. He/they migrated to TN. Dave Hug http://home.lightspeed.net/~davey ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2003 1:03 AM Subject: WHITE-D Digest V03 #167

Looking for information on the family of Hugh White of Paisley, Renfrew, Scotland. Hugh White married Sophia Robertson March 7, 1810 in Paisley High Chuch and had children Janet, Mary, Jean and Margaret. Thanks for any help you might be able to give me. Kathy Florida http://terri9.home.mindspring.com/ Researching: Jost, Petry, Peter, Freunscht, Koob, Moller, Schroeder, Urban Holton, Welsh, Springsteel, Stinson, Hard, Whelan Graham, White/Whyte, Robertson, Earston Johnson, Stevens, Glen, Mabie/Mabee, Peek, Sanders, Van Dyke, Van Eps, Van Patten, Van Slyke, Van Vorst, Wendel Davis, Folts, Lott, Sutphin, Lapdon

Ever heard of a Thomas Whitehead White born around 1816, maybe in SC??? Married a Mary A Susan Waugh, born around 1825. thanks [email protected]

Hey everyone Does anyone have information about John James White? He owned JJ Lumber Company in McComb Mississippi. He was married to Helen Tyree White and they had a couple of sons; Hugh Lawson White and William John James Jr. White. They also had two daughters together and two daughters from a previous relationship. Hugh Lawson White became the Governor of Mississippi; 1936-1940 and 1952-1956 I am looking for information on John James White's brothers, sisters and parents. Thanks much Sharon --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Test Wondering why I received on Oct. 20 an old message dated October 15 -- five days late??? On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 05:07:16 -0500 Sharon Cobb <[email protected]> writes: > Hey Winnie > > I'm not sure on the dates the three brothers came over from Ireland; > G.J. > White and brothers. From everything I've seen in research so far, > indian > territory is referring to the location after the Trail of Tears > which was > Oklahoma. The trail of tears took place in 1837 and 1838. George > Washington White was born in 1860. I've been told in the state of > Alabama. > I haven't seen this for sure myself. I do know that he lived a long > while > in New Braunsfal Texas (not sure if I spelled that right). > > I'm also fairly sure that marriages on Indian Territory were not > recorded > until around 1860. At least officially I don't think it was. So > I'm not > sure how to even find anything on the marriage of G.J. White and the > Indian > Girl. If anyone has information about recording of marriages on > Indian > Territory before that time please let me know. > > Thanks for taking time to help me through all of this. It does get > a little > confusing at times. > > Sharon > > > ==== WHITE Mailing List ==== > WHITE LIST ADMINISTRATOR > <[email protected]> > > > ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

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Hello My name is Lisa Coultrup and I am new to this list. I am working on a genealogy for one Mr. John Patton of Ky, who is interested in discussions with and about the fmaily of Richard Sr, Richard Jr, Harrison , John , to Milton E. White to William Bluford White. There are numerous names in the family and the general geographical area for the family we are seeking is Whitley County and McCreary County KY. If interested, please contact me at: [email protected] Thank you Lisa

Thank you all for the suggestions and the information. I will absorb what i got and try the sites and compare what i have on the White family. again Thank you Virginia

Hello, this may be an imposible task.. My grandmother said there was a Danish sea captain in the family and his name was White. I have no clue as to what relation he was. Her mother's name was Harriet Ann White b. June 10, 1845 and was married to Nathan Hall Herrick on June 10 1863. ( her father's name was Charles Frost White, but in the census record for her it lists her father as born in Maine.) Therefore, he cannot be the White in question. How far back this goes i don't know. He was said to have shipwrecked and stayed and married someone he met at a quilting bee (?). I have no dates, ship name or any other data on this seaman. Not knnowing the "mores" of the era (or even the era), i don't know if that is correct. If anyone has come across a captainWhite having been in a shipwreck in North America waters, i would appreciate a heads up for guidance. One helpful (if not producing snything yet) hint is that possibly the name (since Gram said Danish) that his name! could be spelled Hvid or Hviid. for White. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thank you. virginia Holt Ferrante [email protected]

Hey Winnie I'm not sure on the dates the three brothers came over from Ireland; G.J. White and brothers. From everything I've seen in research so far, indian territory is referring to the location after the Trail of Tears which was Oklahoma. The trail of tears took place in 1837 and 1838. George Washington White was born in 1860. I've been told in the state of Alabama. I haven't seen this for sure myself. I do know that he lived a long while in New Braunsfal Texas (not sure if I spelled that right). I'm also fairly sure that marriages on Indian Territory were not recorded until around 1860. At least officially I don't think it was. So I'm not sure how to even find anything on the marriage of G.J. White and the Indian Girl. If anyone has information about recording of marriages on Indian Territory before that time please let me know. Thanks for taking time to help me through all of this. It does get a little confusing at times. Sharon

Looking for information on George W. White and G.J. White. I believe G.J. White was George W.'s father but not 100% sure. It is said that three brothers came from Ireland to the America's. One made his way over to the Indian Territory and married an Indian girl from the reservation. That was supposedly G.J. White. They had children ( not sure how many ) but George Washington was one of those children. George Washington had children: Hugh (hubert?) White Melvin White (Mayo?) George Newton and Noonie (unsure of this spelling) If you know anything about this family please contact me!! :) Thanks Sharon --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I'm presently working on a family tree book and would like to receive notes, pictures, & Stories, etc from my distant, and direct relatives, There are still many surnames etc that i haven't discovered yet. Please contact me at [email protected], if you would like to assist me in the creation of my book, I will dedicate it to everyone, who generously sent me memento's that i can use in the book, eg Pictures, etc. below is my Alphabetical list of Family names that i would like to find out about, I have quite a bit of information on my Gedcom already, but still would like some help with the additions etc. A Agostino, Aird, Anderson, Andrewartha, Ashman, Audia, Atwood B Barbara, Bear, Biggs, Blood, Boden, Boone, Breuker, Bull, Busswood C Campbell, Crocker, Crump D Davis, Deakin, Drollinger E Edmondson, Edmonds, Edwards, Ellison, Eustace, Evans F Fackler, Fearne, Fernman, Ferrier, Freethy, Friggens, Forbes G Gagnon, Geach, Gibson, Goodwin, Gregory H Hedley, Heller, Hingston I J Jaques, Jent, John K Kaister, Kendrick, Kovacs L Leigh, Low M Manning, Martindale, Morgan, Murphy, N Nish, Norris O O'Bray P Pannell, Pemberton, Prince Q R Rice, Roberts, Rowe, Rowland, Rowzell S Sallenbach, Sampson, Sleeman, Spencer, Stretton, Smith, Strong, Scruggs, Sugdon T Taylor U Usher V Van Benthem, Van Bibber W Walton, White, Whiteman, Woolley X Y Young Z

If it will help, I have pictures of him with my Alma WILSON. We don't know what year they were taken or where. I try not to put information out there that is supposition on my families part. Thanks for any information! V. -------Original Message------- From: Vickie Calvin Date: Monday, October 06, 2003 20:40:24 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [WHITE] WHITE, Benjamin F. born late 1800's lived in Springfield MO at one point Well, I'm sorry I offended someone!!!!!!! I assume he was born in the late 1800's which I mentioned. I have no documented evidence to know for sure, but he might have been in the Springfield, MO area in the 1920's. If I knew more, I'd tell more. I, too, appreciate explicit messages, but sometimes we just don't know more!!! Patience is a virtue/ -------Original Message------- From: hondo Date: Monday, October 06, 2003 19:38:14 To: Vickie Calvin Subject: Re: [WHITE] WHITE, Benjamin F. born late 1800's lived in Springfield MO at one point You should at least give an approx time span, and or state or place in order to get help. Benjamin Whites are a dime a dozen. <G> Jean Vickie Calvin wrote: >Can anyone tell me anythng more about Benjam F. WHITE? I know not his >parents/siblings/dates, only that he was once with Mary Alma WILSON, whether >they were married or not we're not sure. >Any assistance appreciated!!!!!! >I have pictures of him with Alma. >Thanks, >V > > >==== WHITE Mailing List ==== >WHITE LIST ADMINISTRATOR ><[email protected]> > > > .. ==== WHITE Mailing List ==== WHITE LIST ADMINISTRATOR <[email protected]> .

Well, I'm sorry I offended someone!!!!!!! I assume he was born in the late 1800's which I mentioned. I have no documented evidence to know for sure, but he might have been in the Springfield, MO area in the 1920's. If I knew more, I'd tell more. I, too, appreciate explicit messages, but sometimes we just don't know more!!! Patience is a virtue/ -------Original Message------- From: hondo Date: Monday, October 06, 2003 19:38:14 To: Vickie Calvin Subject: Re: [WHITE] WHITE, Benjamin F. born late 1800's lived in Springfield MO at one point You should at least give an approx time span, and or state or place in order to get help. Benjamin Whites are a dime a dozen. <G> Jean Vickie Calvin wrote: >Can anyone tell me anythng more about Benjam F. WHITE? I know not his >parents/siblings/dates, only that he was once with Mary Alma WILSON, whether >they were married or not we're not sure. >Any assistance appreciated!!!!!! >I have pictures of him with Alma. >Thanks, >V > > >==== WHITE Mailing List ==== >WHITE LIST ADMINISTRATOR ><[email protected]> > > > .