Srry, B Johnson, my Whitakers stayed in Wiltshire, ENG. good luck, Lorraine -----Original Message----- From: B Johnson <quinn@sirinet.net> To: WHITAKER-L@rootsweb.com <WHITAKER-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Friday, July 13, 2001 2:43 PM Subject: Re: [WHITAKER] Joseph Whittaker/1755:Born at sea >Hello I was searching for Whittakers from Nebraska and Illinois......that >married Pedrick >do you have any names like that >like Charles edward Whitaker he was my grandfather >just wanted to know >b johnson >----- Original Message ----- >From: Kyleen Gavin <smiley23@citrus.infi.net> >To: <WHITAKER-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2001 1:28 PM >Subject: [WHITAKER] Joseph Whittaker/1755:Born at sea > > >> Hi everyone, >> I am very interested in connecting with other who may be able to shed >> some light on Joseph Whittaker, born at sea about 1755. According to >> what information I have, his nationality was unknown; nor do I know the >> name of the ship. His parents reportedly died at sea and he was bound >> out in N.C. He was reputed to be a courier for George Washington during >> the Revolutionary War. He married Obedience "Biddie" Purdue and had a >> number of children. >> >> Does anyone have additional information that might help me in knowing >> more about him? Parenthetically, one of his sons was Aaron. One of >> Aaron's sons was William Aaron, who was my gr-gr-gr-grandfather. This >> Whittaker line went from Pulaski CO., Va to Giles CO., to Mercer Co., >> WV. >> >> THANKS ! >> >> Kyleen Gavin >> >> >> ==== WHITAKER Mailing List ==== >> WHITAKER List Administrator >> <commander@inetone.net> >> >> >> ============================== >> Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! >> http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2 >> > > >==== WHITAKER Mailing List ==== > > > >============================== >Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 >Source for Family History Online. Go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB >

Sorry, I don't think we have a match. ----- Original Message ----- From: "B Johnson" <quinn@sirinet.net> To: <WHITAKER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 10:05 AM Subject: Re: [WHITAKER] Joseph Whittaker/1755:Born at sea > What I got is ggggf Charles Whittaker bn in Va and he married ggggm Nancy > Dean, they married in Mclean Illinois and my ggggf Edward Charles Whittaker > was bn in Illinois who married gggm Hanna Pedrick she was from NJ. His Son > ggf Somers Pedrick Whittaker was my ggrandfather, he married ggm Opha Belle > Moran they was both born in nebraska. There daughter gm Carrie Margaret > Whittaker married gfAlbert Charles DeWolf bith born in Nebraska. > Then my Father George William DeWolf He marrys Ehel Lucille DeWolf both born > in Nebraska. and theres me and my sons generation. I have a big DeWolf > line that goes with this also.......let me know thanks > B Johnson > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <RWhit18007@aol.com> > To: <WHITAKER-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 8:26 AM > Subject: Re: [WHITAKER] Joseph Whittaker/1755:Born at sea > > > > good morning. > > got your letter about your whitaker in Nebraska. I forewarded it to > > betty deholt who I thought said she had whitaker line in Nebr as I do too. > > I do not think your my line. as I found my whitaker's in danville Ill in > > 1830 census. so your are too late for mine. > > always a chance . thanks. janet whitaker ( with one t) but they > > often could not spell back then. > > > > > > > > > > ==== WHITAKER Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > ============================== > > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com > > > > > ==== WHITAKER Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! > http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2 >

Were there any Degroffs involved with any Whitakers irregardless of location? ----- Original Message ----- From: <Deyofire@aol.com> To: <WHITAKER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 8:42 AM Subject: Re: [WHITAKER] Joseph Whittaker/1755:Born at sea > sorry, only one's we know were from Ulster County, in N>Y> > > > ==== WHITAKER Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! > http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2 >

good morning. got your letter about your whitaker in Nebraska. I forewarded it to betty deholt who I thought said she had whitaker line in Nebr as I do too. I do not think your my line. as I found my whitaker's in danville Ill in 1830 census. so your are too late for mine. always a chance . thanks. janet whitaker ( with one t) but they often could not spell back then.

What I got is ggggf Charles Whittaker bn in Va and he married ggggm Nancy Dean, they married in Mclean Illinois and my ggggf Edward Charles Whittaker was bn in Illinois who married gggm Hanna Pedrick she was from NJ. His Son ggf Somers Pedrick Whittaker was my ggrandfather, he married ggm Opha Belle Moran they was both born in nebraska. There daughter gm Carrie Margaret Whittaker married gfAlbert Charles DeWolf bith born in Nebraska. Then my Father George William DeWolf He marrys Ehel Lucille DeWolf both born in Nebraska. and theres me and my sons generation. I have a big DeWolf line that goes with this also.......let me know thanks B Johnson ----- Original Message ----- From: <RWhit18007@aol.com> To: <WHITAKER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 8:26 AM Subject: Re: [WHITAKER] Joseph Whittaker/1755:Born at sea > good morning. > got your letter about your whitaker in Nebraska. I forewarded it to > betty deholt who I thought said she had whitaker line in Nebr as I do too. > I do not think your my line. as I found my whitaker's in danville Ill in > 1830 census. so your are too late for mine. > always a chance . thanks. janet whitaker ( with one t) but they > often could not spell back then. > > > > > ==== WHITAKER Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com >

sorry, only one's we know were from Ulster County, in N>Y>

Hello I was searching for Whittakers from Nebraska and Illinois......that married Pedrick do you have any names like that like Charles edward Whitaker he was my grandfather just wanted to know b johnson ----- Original Message ----- From: Kyleen Gavin <smiley23@citrus.infi.net> To: <WHITAKER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2001 1:28 PM Subject: [WHITAKER] Joseph Whittaker/1755:Born at sea > Hi everyone, > I am very interested in connecting with other who may be able to shed > some light on Joseph Whittaker, born at sea about 1755. According to > what information I have, his nationality was unknown; nor do I know the > name of the ship. His parents reportedly died at sea and he was bound > out in N.C. He was reputed to be a courier for George Washington during > the Revolutionary War. He married Obedience "Biddie" Purdue and had a > number of children. > > Does anyone have additional information that might help me in knowing > more about him? Parenthetically, one of his sons was Aaron. One of > Aaron's sons was William Aaron, who was my gr-gr-gr-grandfather. This > Whittaker line went from Pulaski CO., Va to Giles CO., to Mercer Co., > WV. > > THANKS ! > > Kyleen Gavin > > > ==== WHITAKER Mailing List ==== > WHITAKER List Administrator > <commander@inetone.net> > > > ============================== > Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! > http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2 >

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In a message dated 7/8/01 1:18:48 PM, earlwhitaker@cpis.net writes: << Hi, do you have the name of your 3rd ggrandmother from Davidson County. My grandmother was Minnie Harris Whitaker Who lived in Davidson County and is burried in Randolph County, N.C. >> She was Refina Angelina (Reichard) Whitaker of Davidson/Rowan. My Whitakers from Md. were in Orange Co., though. My immediate family did move to Asheboro, Randolph Co., NC, when I was 16...which is neither here nor there as far as genealogy is concerned, however! Oh, and Refina's dau. m. a Harris in Orange Co. Bebe in NC

Hi, do you have the name of your 3rd ggrandmother from Davidson County. My grandmother was Minnie Harris Whitaker Who lived in Davidson County and is burried in Randolph County, N.C. -----Original Message----- From: Bebenjohn@aol.com [mailto:Bebenjohn@aol.com] Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2001 7:25 AM To: WHITAKER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WHITAKER] The Other early Rowan County, NC Whitakers My Abraham Isaac Whitaker was b. ca 1732 in Balt. Co., Md. and removed to Orange Co., NC, very near Rowan, and d. in 1808. This family had 1800's marital tie to Rowan. My 3rd great grandmother was b. in current Davidson Co., NC, and her father in old Rowan (didn't move, to my knowledge) and married and d. in Orange. She wasn't a Whitaker but m. my Whitaker in Orange. We have always been curious how the two met. Maybe my Orange Co. Whitaker was visiting his cousin?, your Rowan Whitaker?? I was b. in Orange. You could discuss this with my 1st cousin, Bob Newsome, JRN2217@aol.com who has our family documented on his site. Bebe in NC ==== WHITAKER Mailing List ==== ============================== Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp

My Abraham Isaac Whitaker was b. ca 1732 in Balt. Co., Md. and removed to Orange Co., NC, very near Rowan, and d. in 1808. This family had 1800's marital tie to Rowan. My 3rd great grandmother was b. in current Davidson Co., NC, and her father in old Rowan (didn't move, to my knowledge) and married and d. in Orange. She wasn't a Whitaker but m. my Whitaker in Orange. We have always been curious how the two met. Maybe my Orange Co. Whitaker was visiting his cousin?, your Rowan Whitaker?? I was b. in Orange. You could discuss this with my 1st cousin, Bob Newsome, JRN2217@aol.com who has our family documented on his site. Bebe in NC

Frederick County, MD., on June 23, 1767: "I, Mark Whitaker formerly of Frederick County, MD., but now of Rowan County, North Carolina, give full power and authority to John Cary." Whitaker's were early pioneers in Rowan County, North Carolina. There are many Whitaker's listed in an early tax list for Rowan County in 1768. In 1768 Rowan County, NC., included a much larger area than the present boundaries today. All the surrounding counties from Rowan to the west and north were created from Rowan County, NC. Early new counties created were: Burke County in 1777 Iredell County in 1788 Surry County, in 1770. Surry County was also much larger when created than today. From Surry County were created: Stokes County in 1789 Wilkes County in 1777 In the 1768 Rowan County, NC. Tax List are listed: James Whitaker (1) James Whitaker (2) John Whitaker Joshua Whitaker Mack Whitaker Mark Whitaker (1) Mark Whitaker (2) Mark Whitaker Jr. Pittir Whitaker Thomas Whitaker (1) Thomas Whitaker (2) William Whitaker The (x) are noted to indicate these are not duplicates but different men with the same name. A large part of this group is documented as part of the family of children and grandchildren of Joshua Whitaker, a Quaker from England who died probably between 1715 and 1719 in a religious incident on the Isle of Man, between western England and Ireland. Joshua's widow and children moved to SE PA about 1719 and then most of the clan moved to Rowan County, NC. in the 1750's. I compared the Whitaker's of the Quaker Joshua group in Bruce Whitaker's book "Whitaker, Reed, Harper, Wright" whom he documented as being of taxable age and in Rowan County, NC. in 1768 and I find the following: In the 1768 Rowan County Tax List are listed: Quaker Joshua group noted with dates James Whitaker (1) James Whitaker (2) John Whitaker Joshua Whitaker Yes: age about 33 in 1768 Mack Whitaker Mark Whitaker (1) Mark Whitaker (2) Yes: age about 42 in 1768 Mark Whitaker Jr. Yes, age about 18 in 1768 Pittir Whitaker Yes, age about 35 in 1768 Thomas Whitaker (1) Thomas Whitaker (2) William Whitaker Yes, age about 36 in 1768 Removing these documented Quaker Joshua Whitaker family members from the list were are left with: 1768 Rowan County Tax List Whitakers not documented in Quaker Joshua Line Bruce Whitaker book: James Whitaker (1) James Whitaker (2) John Whitaker Mack Whitaker Mark Whitaker (1) Thomas Whitaker (1) Thomas Whitaker (2) Now compare many of these names to the names of the sons of Mark Whitaker who died in Baltimore County, MD. May 1, 1729 who are listed in the St. George's Parish Register of Baltimore County, MD: Thomas Whitaker, born June 13, 1712 (by Mark Sr.'s wife Catherine Teag or Teague who died Nov. 15, 1717) Mark Whitaker, born February 15, 1716 James Whitaker, born February 8, 1721 (by Mark Sr.'s second wife Elizabeth Empson) Empson Whitaker, born September 30, 1724 Seems clear this is the same family in Rowan County, NC in 1768. All these men would have been old enough to have adult sons in 1768 accounting for the additional names. The sons of Mark Whitaker Sr. disappear from Baltimore County, MD records in the 1730's. Thomas appears for a while in Prince George's County MD (see my previous post on "Surry NC Whitaker's Maryland Connections"). Most of the famly seems to have stopped off in Frederick County, MD., between Baltimore County, MD and Rowan County, NC. Frederick County, MD marriage records contains a marriage of Mark Whitaker to Abigal Johnson on February 6, 1743. Other Frederick County, MD. records for Whitaker's include: Deed Nov. 18, 1760 in which Mark Whitaker buys from William Johnson, 50 acres in Frederick County, MD., called "Exchanged". William might be the Father-in-Law of Mark who married Abigal Johnson. Could this be a start up piece of land to William's Johnson's grandson, Mark Jr., who might have been about 17 years old at this time? Deed May 1, 1758 in which James Whetaker of Frederick County, MD., sells 270 acres, part of a tract called "Stoney Batter" to Beale Owings of Baltimore County, MD., James' wife Prudence releases her dower. Is James already moving to NC.? Mark appears to move later. A brief court record for recovered tobacco on June 22, 1757 names a John Whitacre. Could this be the John Whitaker listed in Rowan County NC tax list of 1768. Probably a son of Thomas b: 1712. A mortgage record is recorded in Frederick County, MD., on August 18, 1768 in which land laid out for a Thomas Whitaker now occupied by a Nicholas Fink is described. This places a Thomas Whitaker in Frederick MD and shows him gone by date Thomas's show up in Rowan NC. A power of attorney is recorded in Frederick County, MD., on June 23, 1767: "I, Mark Whitaker formerly of Frederick County, MD., but now of Rowan County, North Carolina, give full power and authority to John Cary." signed by mark: Mark Whitaker, before Thomas Price and Henry Johnson. Many Whitaker lines who were very early pioneers of Tenn, Ky, and beyond have frustrated researchers who have tried without much success to connect them to documented Whitaker lines of Quaker Joshua, Robert of Halifax NC., or John of Baltimore County, MD. It appears that the answer for many of these unconnected Whitaker branches may lie in this connection to the family of Mark Whitaker of early 1700's Baltimore County, MD. I hope you find this helpful or at least interesting. Thanks, Rich Fulton, rfulton@us.ibm.com World Wide Mid-Market Sales Executive, S/390 SW, SWG IBM, home office 1420 West Main Street, Apt. 1008 Lewisville, TX. 75067 USA Phone: 972-434-1033, t/l 450-8996 Fax: 817-962-8780, t/l 522-8780

Have you run into my Whitaker's in England? My great grandmother is Mary Elizabeth WHITAKER b. 10 Nov 1854 in Chorton Cum Hardy Lancashire d. 28 Nov 1934 in the USA, she married William Henry SELLEN (SELLARS) b. 1848 in Stretford in Lancashire d. 1887 in Pemberton or Wigan in Lancashire. They were married on 22 Feb 1874 in Cathedral, Manchester, Lancashire. There fathers were James WHITAKER, a grocer and Charles SELLEN a paper maker. They had two children in England, Edith Gertrude b. 21 Mar 1878 and John Henry b.8 Nov 1880 and one child in the USA, Charles Lenard b. 1887/1888. Mary Elizabeth came to the USA immediately after her husbands death and delivered her 3rd child. I need to know more of the WHITAKER's, Mary Elizabeth's family. She had two brothers, John and Richard and two sisters, Mrs CHADWICK and Mrs RIGBY. I don't know their 1st names. Mrs CHADWICK died 23 Oct 1919 and left one son, Ernest and he was married and had at least one child, he lived at 143 Westbourne in Bolton in Lancashire. Mrs RIGBY lived without her husband at 999 Blackburn Road, Sharples, Bolton in Lancashire and she had several children. Richard had two sons, James WHITAKER who lived in Bolton and William Shaw WHITAKER who lived in Leeds. This is information from a Solicitor in Bolton to my great grandmother. His letter is dated 21 Jan 1931. I would be greatful if you know of my family. Regards Jean Benson jbenson578@cybertrails.com

Richard: You're starting to type like I sometimes do!! Check your dates. Thomas birthday is correct. Mark, Jr b 16 Feb 1715/16 and m. 6 Feb 1744, (Abigail Johnson(Johnston). I like your thinking on the old naming patterns. Have corresponded with others who continually try to tie our Mark, Sr. in with the other group of Whitaker's prominent in the Baltimore area during that time. I think they've tried everything except grafting in attempting to have our branch fit the tree. Stay in touch. Ron Richard Fulton wrote: > Ronald, thanks for the correction. You are of course correct, Mark > Whitaker Sr. of Baltimore County MD., sons Thomas born June 13, 1712 and > Mark Jr. born Feb. 15, 1743 were by his wife Catherine Teag or Teague. > Catherine died Nov. 15, 1717 and Mark Sr. then married Elizabeth Empson and > had the last 4 children you name. Thanks. > > One other tidbit, looks like Mark Sr might have been using a variation of > traditional naming patterns: > Sons in order: Thomas, Mark, James, and Empson. Second son after self > and fourth after wife's surname, could mean Mark's Father was a Thomas and > his Grandfather was a James Whitaker. Two daugthers named Elizabeth > might indicate Mark Sr.'s mother's name was Elizabeth, particularly since > eldest daughter born long before he married Elizabeth Empson. > > Thanks, Rich Fulton, rfulton@us.ibm.com > World Wide Mid-Market Sales Executive, S/390 SW, SWG > IBM, home office > 1420 West Main Street, Apt. 1008 > Lewisville, TX. 75067 USA > Phone: 972-434-1033, t/l 450-8996 > Fax: 817-962-8780, t/l 522-8780 > ---------------------- Forwarded by Richard Fulton/Dallas/IBM on 07/03/2001 > 08:53 PM --------------------------- > > "Ronald L. Whitaker" <whitaker@frognet.net> on 07/03/2001 08:10:14 PM > > Please respond to WHITAKER-L@rootsweb.com > > To: WHITAKER-L@rootsweb.com > cc: > Subject: Re: [WHITAKER] Johnson & Thomas Whitaker, Surry NC Will 1787 > > Richard: > > Correction. Thomas is the son of Mark Whitaker and Catherine Teague > (issue: > Elizabeth, Thomas, Mark). Mark m.(2) in 1717, Elizabeth Empson (issue: > Charity, James, Empson, Elizabeth). > > Ron > > Richard Fulton wrote: > > > Per note below, I wondered where Johnson Whitaker named in the 1787 Surry > > NC Will of his father Thomas Whitaker went. Looks like pretty certain > > who moved a short distance first North to SW Virginia and then West to > > Eastern TN. Following is the abstract of the Will of Thomas Whitaker, > > March 1787, Surry County, NC. > > > > I believe this Thomas Whitaker to be a son of Mark Whitaker, whose birth > as > > the son of Mark Whitaker Sr and Catharine Empson., is recorded in St. > > George's Parish Register Baltimore County, MD. on Feb. 15, 1716. This > > Mark Whitaker Jr. is believed to be the same Mark Whitaker who married > > Abigal Johnson Feb. 6, 1743 in Frederick County, MD. However it could > > also be that Thomas is the son of Mark Whitaker Sr. Thomas Whiteaker, > > son of Mark Whiteaker was born 13 June 1712. > > > > Besides the common first names Thomas and Mark, another common naming > > pattern fits this family. Mark Whitaker Sr., the father of Thomas > named > > his third son EMPSON, after his wife's maiden name. Thomas Whitaker in > > his 1787 Will in Surry County NC., named his second son Johnson Whitaker, > > not John or Jonathan, but clearly Johnson and the first name Johnson is > > listed in tax lists and Johnson's 1784 marriage to Sarah Stafford in > Surry > > County, NC. The wife's name Sarah is another strong link to the Thomas > > Whitaker leaving a will in Washington County, TN in 1799 being this same > > Thomas Whitaker of Surry County, NC. > > > > Following is the abstract of the Will of Thomas Whitaker who died in > Surry > > County, NC. March 1787: > > ********************************** > > 2:78a. Will of Thomas (X) Whitticor. .. Mar 1787. Wife Mary > > Plantation on E side of Crk adj Harveys with reversion to son > > Mark. Dau Margaret, 1/2 moveable est. Son Johnson, the rest > > of land. Rest of my children: Elizabeth, Mary , Nancy, & Jane > > have had their share. Exrs: wf Mary, sons Mark & Johnson. > > Wit: John Harvey, Mark (X) Whiticor, Jo. Williams. Prvd. by > > Jos. Willams. Rec. Aug. Ct. 1787. > > **************************** > > > > Question/observation: The wording of this abstract by saying the > > daughters Elizabeth, Mary, Nancy, & Jane had "had their share" would seem > > to indicate that they were adults and probably given their share of > > inheritance as dowries when married. Anybody have a different > > interpretation? We would know then from marriage record of Johnson in > > 1784 and fact that son Mark is an executor, that Thomas had 6 adult > > children when he died. The fact that only Johnson Whitaker is > recorded > > in Surry County, NC. marriage records may well mean the others were older > > and already married. If so, Johnson would be the 6th child. Since he > > was married in 1784, assuming he was 22 when he was married, he would > have > > been born about 1762. Allowing typical two years between children in > > those days and allowing for at least two who did not survive to adulthood > > (probably low), then backing up 7X2 or 14 years, we get an estimated year > > of birth of the first of Thomas' children in about 1748. Probably > > earlier if Johnson was older than 22 and/or there were more gaps in > births. > > If 1748 is close to accurate as the date of the birth of Thomas' first > > child, then he is likely the son of Mark Sr. of Baltimore MD., not Mark > Jr. > > of Baltimore MD. Mark Jr. was married in 1743 in Frederick County, MD. > > Even if he had had a previous wife, if Thomas was 22 in 1748, Mark Jr. > > (born 1716) would have been only 10 years old when Thomas was born. > What > > do any of you think? > > > > I have additional information about the family of Mark Whitaker Sr. of > > Baltimore County, MD who died in 1729 and the NC connection I will > forward > > in another note. > > > > I am descended from a Thomas Whitaker born January 26, 1788 in Virginia. > > He > > came to Washington County, Tennessee prior to 1813 as he married a Jemima > > Edgeman on April 25, 1813 in Washington County. Their children were > > Winton, > > Nancy, Rachel, Jesse R., Richard W., Elizabeth, Joseph, Stephen A. and > > John > > W. I have not been able to determine who Thomas' parents are. > > > > Interestingly, there is a will for a Johnson Whitaker in Washington > County > > which mentions the following: > > > > Johnson Whitaker October 24, 1799 > > Wife, Sarah and children. Executrix, Sarah Whitaker. Teste: > > Mark Whitaker, Jonathan Tullis. February Sessions, 1800. > > Signed Johnson Whitaker > > > > Also, in the Washington County List of Taxables, there is a Mark Whitacre > > listed in Captain Morrison's company for tax years 1793 through 1796. > This > > may be the same Mar Whitaker who is found listed in the book "Roster of > > Soldiers and Patriots of the American Revolution Buried in Tennessee". > > Information in the book shows him born on April 8, 1750 in North Carolina > > and died 1842 in Lincoln County, TN. He married Catherine Boone on > > 3-1-1780 > > in Rowan County, NC. Children are Rebecca, Nancy, John, Mary, Sarah, > > Martha, Benjamin, Judy, Mark Jr., and Perlina. > > > > The book also lists Richard Whitaker born c1760 in North Carolina, died > in > > Lincoln County, TN. There is also a John Whitaker born 1760 in Salisbury > > District, NC, died 6-11-1837 in Lincoln County, TN. > > > > I wonder if these Whitakers could be the descendants of Thomas Whitaker > > that > > you mention who died in 1787 in Surry County leaving a will naming sons > > Johnson and Mark? Is his will dated 1787? I would like to get a copy. > > Thanks > > > > Thanks, Rich Fulton, rfulton@us.ibm.com > > World Wide Mid-Market Sales Executive, S/390 SW, SWG > > IBM, home office > > 1420 West Main Street, Apt. 1008 > > Lewisville, TX. 75067 USA > > Phone: 972-434-1033, t/l 450-8996 > > Fax: 817-962-8780, t/l 522-8780 > > > > ==== WHITAKER Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > > ==== WHITAKER Mailing List ==== > WHITAKER List Administrator > <commander@inetone.net> > > ============================== > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com > > ==== WHITAKER Mailing List ==== > > ============================== > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com

Richard: Correction. Thomas is the son of Mark Whitaker and Catherine Teague (issue: Elizabeth, Thomas, Mark). Mark m.(2) in 1717, Elizabeth Empson (issue: Charity, James, Empson, Elizabeth). Ron Richard Fulton wrote: > Per note below, I wondered where Johnson Whitaker named in the 1787 Surry > NC Will of his father Thomas Whitaker went. Looks like pretty certain > who moved a short distance first North to SW Virginia and then West to > Eastern TN. Following is the abstract of the Will of Thomas Whitaker, > March 1787, Surry County, NC. > > I believe this Thomas Whitaker to be a son of Mark Whitaker, whose birth as > the son of Mark Whitaker Sr and Catharine Empson., is recorded in St. > George's Parish Register Baltimore County, MD. on Feb. 15, 1716. This > Mark Whitaker Jr. is believed to be the same Mark Whitaker who married > Abigal Johnson Feb. 6, 1743 in Frederick County, MD. However it could > also be that Thomas is the son of Mark Whitaker Sr. Thomas Whiteaker, > son of Mark Whiteaker was born 13 June 1712. > > Besides the common first names Thomas and Mark, another common naming > pattern fits this family. Mark Whitaker Sr., the father of Thomas named > his third son EMPSON, after his wife's maiden name. Thomas Whitaker in > his 1787 Will in Surry County NC., named his second son Johnson Whitaker, > not John or Jonathan, but clearly Johnson and the first name Johnson is > listed in tax lists and Johnson's 1784 marriage to Sarah Stafford in Surry > County, NC. The wife's name Sarah is another strong link to the Thomas > Whitaker leaving a will in Washington County, TN in 1799 being this same > Thomas Whitaker of Surry County, NC. > > Following is the abstract of the Will of Thomas Whitaker who died in Surry > County, NC. March 1787: > ********************************** > 2:78a. Will of Thomas (X) Whitticor. .. Mar 1787. Wife Mary > Plantation on E side of Crk adj Harveys with reversion to son > Mark. Dau Margaret, 1/2 moveable est. Son Johnson, the rest > of land. Rest of my children: Elizabeth, Mary , Nancy, & Jane > have had their share. Exrs: wf Mary, sons Mark & Johnson. > Wit: John Harvey, Mark (X) Whiticor, Jo. Williams. Prvd. by > Jos. Willams. Rec. Aug. Ct. 1787. > **************************** > > Question/observation: The wording of this abstract by saying the > daughters Elizabeth, Mary, Nancy, & Jane had "had their share" would seem > to indicate that they were adults and probably given their share of > inheritance as dowries when married. Anybody have a different > interpretation? We would know then from marriage record of Johnson in > 1784 and fact that son Mark is an executor, that Thomas had 6 adult > children when he died. The fact that only Johnson Whitaker is recorded > in Surry County, NC. marriage records may well mean the others were older > and already married. If so, Johnson would be the 6th child. Since he > was married in 1784, assuming he was 22 when he was married, he would have > been born about 1762. Allowing typical two years between children in > those days and allowing for at least two who did not survive to adulthood > (probably low), then backing up 7X2 or 14 years, we get an estimated year > of birth of the first of Thomas' children in about 1748. Probably > earlier if Johnson was older than 22 and/or there were more gaps in births. > If 1748 is close to accurate as the date of the birth of Thomas' first > child, then he is likely the son of Mark Sr. of Baltimore MD., not Mark Jr. > of Baltimore MD. Mark Jr. was married in 1743 in Frederick County, MD. > Even if he had had a previous wife, if Thomas was 22 in 1748, Mark Jr. > (born 1716) would have been only 10 years old when Thomas was born. What > do any of you think? > > I have additional information about the family of Mark Whitaker Sr. of > Baltimore County, MD who died in 1729 and the NC connection I will forward > in another note. > > I am descended from a Thomas Whitaker born January 26, 1788 in Virginia. > He > came to Washington County, Tennessee prior to 1813 as he married a Jemima > Edgeman on April 25, 1813 in Washington County. Their children were > Winton, > Nancy, Rachel, Jesse R., Richard W., Elizabeth, Joseph, Stephen A. and > John > W. I have not been able to determine who Thomas' parents are. > > Interestingly, there is a will for a Johnson Whitaker in Washington County > which mentions the following: > > Johnson Whitaker October 24, 1799 > Wife, Sarah and children. Executrix, Sarah Whitaker. Teste: > Mark Whitaker, Jonathan Tullis. February Sessions, 1800. > Signed Johnson Whitaker > > Also, in the Washington County List of Taxables, there is a Mark Whitacre > listed in Captain Morrison's company for tax years 1793 through 1796. This > may be the same Mar Whitaker who is found listed in the book "Roster of > Soldiers and Patriots of the American Revolution Buried in Tennessee". > Information in the book shows him born on April 8, 1750 in North Carolina > and died 1842 in Lincoln County, TN. He married Catherine Boone on > 3-1-1780 > in Rowan County, NC. Children are Rebecca, Nancy, John, Mary, Sarah, > Martha, Benjamin, Judy, Mark Jr., and Perlina. > > The book also lists Richard Whitaker born c1760 in North Carolina, died in > Lincoln County, TN. There is also a John Whitaker born 1760 in Salisbury > District, NC, died 6-11-1837 in Lincoln County, TN. > > I wonder if these Whitakers could be the descendants of Thomas Whitaker > that > you mention who died in 1787 in Surry County leaving a will naming sons > Johnson and Mark? Is his will dated 1787? I would like to get a copy. > Thanks > > Thanks, Rich Fulton, rfulton@us.ibm.com > World Wide Mid-Market Sales Executive, S/390 SW, SWG > IBM, home office > 1420 West Main Street, Apt. 1008 > Lewisville, TX. 75067 USA > Phone: 972-434-1033, t/l 450-8996 > Fax: 817-962-8780, t/l 522-8780 > > ==== WHITAKER Mailing List ==== > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp

Ronald, thanks for the correction. You are of course correct, Mark Whitaker Sr. of Baltimore County MD., sons Thomas born June 13, 1712 and Mark Jr. born Feb. 15, 1743 were by his wife Catherine Teag or Teague. Catherine died Nov. 15, 1717 and Mark Sr. then married Elizabeth Empson and had the last 4 children you name. Thanks. One other tidbit, looks like Mark Sr might have been using a variation of traditional naming patterns: Sons in order: Thomas, Mark, James, and Empson. Second son after self and fourth after wife's surname, could mean Mark's Father was a Thomas and his Grandfather was a James Whitaker. Two daugthers named Elizabeth might indicate Mark Sr.'s mother's name was Elizabeth, particularly since eldest daughter born long before he married Elizabeth Empson. Thanks, Rich Fulton, rfulton@us.ibm.com World Wide Mid-Market Sales Executive, S/390 SW, SWG IBM, home office 1420 West Main Street, Apt. 1008 Lewisville, TX. 75067 USA Phone: 972-434-1033, t/l 450-8996 Fax: 817-962-8780, t/l 522-8780 ---------------------- Forwarded by Richard Fulton/Dallas/IBM on 07/03/2001 08:53 PM --------------------------- "Ronald L. Whitaker" <whitaker@frognet.net> on 07/03/2001 08:10:14 PM Please respond to WHITAKER-L@rootsweb.com To: WHITAKER-L@rootsweb.com cc: Subject: Re: [WHITAKER] Johnson & Thomas Whitaker, Surry NC Will 1787 Richard: Correction. Thomas is the son of Mark Whitaker and Catherine Teague (issue: Elizabeth, Thomas, Mark). Mark m.(2) in 1717, Elizabeth Empson (issue: Charity, James, Empson, Elizabeth). Ron Richard Fulton wrote: > Per note below, I wondered where Johnson Whitaker named in the 1787 Surry > NC Will of his father Thomas Whitaker went. Looks like pretty certain > who moved a short distance first North to SW Virginia and then West to > Eastern TN. Following is the abstract of the Will of Thomas Whitaker, > March 1787, Surry County, NC. > > I believe this Thomas Whitaker to be a son of Mark Whitaker, whose birth as > the son of Mark Whitaker Sr and Catharine Empson., is recorded in St. > George's Parish Register Baltimore County, MD. on Feb. 15, 1716. This > Mark Whitaker Jr. is believed to be the same Mark Whitaker who married > Abigal Johnson Feb. 6, 1743 in Frederick County, MD. However it could > also be that Thomas is the son of Mark Whitaker Sr. Thomas Whiteaker, > son of Mark Whiteaker was born 13 June 1712. > > Besides the common first names Thomas and Mark, another common naming > pattern fits this family. Mark Whitaker Sr., the father of Thomas named > his third son EMPSON, after his wife's maiden name. Thomas Whitaker in > his 1787 Will in Surry County NC., named his second son Johnson Whitaker, > not John or Jonathan, but clearly Johnson and the first name Johnson is > listed in tax lists and Johnson's 1784 marriage to Sarah Stafford in Surry > County, NC. The wife's name Sarah is another strong link to the Thomas > Whitaker leaving a will in Washington County, TN in 1799 being this same > Thomas Whitaker of Surry County, NC. > > Following is the abstract of the Will of Thomas Whitaker who died in Surry > County, NC. March 1787: > ********************************** > 2:78a. Will of Thomas (X) Whitticor. .. Mar 1787. Wife Mary > Plantation on E side of Crk adj Harveys with reversion to son > Mark. Dau Margaret, 1/2 moveable est. Son Johnson, the rest > of land. Rest of my children: Elizabeth, Mary , Nancy, & Jane > have had their share. Exrs: wf Mary, sons Mark & Johnson. > Wit: John Harvey, Mark (X) Whiticor, Jo. Williams. Prvd. by > Jos. Willams. Rec. Aug. Ct. 1787. > **************************** > > Question/observation: The wording of this abstract by saying the > daughters Elizabeth, Mary, Nancy, & Jane had "had their share" would seem > to indicate that they were adults and probably given their share of > inheritance as dowries when married. Anybody have a different > interpretation? We would know then from marriage record of Johnson in > 1784 and fact that son Mark is an executor, that Thomas had 6 adult > children when he died. The fact that only Johnson Whitaker is recorded > in Surry County, NC. marriage records may well mean the others were older > and already married. If so, Johnson would be the 6th child. Since he > was married in 1784, assuming he was 22 when he was married, he would have > been born about 1762. Allowing typical two years between children in > those days and allowing for at least two who did not survive to adulthood > (probably low), then backing up 7X2 or 14 years, we get an estimated year > of birth of the first of Thomas' children in about 1748. Probably > earlier if Johnson was older than 22 and/or there were more gaps in births. > If 1748 is close to accurate as the date of the birth of Thomas' first > child, then he is likely the son of Mark Sr. of Baltimore MD., not Mark Jr. > of Baltimore MD. Mark Jr. was married in 1743 in Frederick County, MD. > Even if he had had a previous wife, if Thomas was 22 in 1748, Mark Jr. > (born 1716) would have been only 10 years old when Thomas was born. What > do any of you think? > > I have additional information about the family of Mark Whitaker Sr. of > Baltimore County, MD who died in 1729 and the NC connection I will forward > in another note. > > I am descended from a Thomas Whitaker born January 26, 1788 in Virginia. > He > came to Washington County, Tennessee prior to 1813 as he married a Jemima > Edgeman on April 25, 1813 in Washington County. Their children were > Winton, > Nancy, Rachel, Jesse R., Richard W., Elizabeth, Joseph, Stephen A. and > John > W. I have not been able to determine who Thomas' parents are. > > Interestingly, there is a will for a Johnson Whitaker in Washington County > which mentions the following: > > Johnson Whitaker October 24, 1799 > Wife, Sarah and children. Executrix, Sarah Whitaker. Teste: > Mark Whitaker, Jonathan Tullis. February Sessions, 1800. > Signed Johnson Whitaker > > Also, in the Washington County List of Taxables, there is a Mark Whitacre > listed in Captain Morrison's company for tax years 1793 through 1796. This > may be the same Mar Whitaker who is found listed in the book "Roster of > Soldiers and Patriots of the American Revolution Buried in Tennessee". > Information in the book shows him born on April 8, 1750 in North Carolina > and died 1842 in Lincoln County, TN. He married Catherine Boone on > 3-1-1780 > in Rowan County, NC. Children are Rebecca, Nancy, John, Mary, Sarah, > Martha, Benjamin, Judy, Mark Jr., and Perlina. > > The book also lists Richard Whitaker born c1760 in North Carolina, died in > Lincoln County, TN. There is also a John Whitaker born 1760 in Salisbury > District, NC, died 6-11-1837 in Lincoln County, TN. > > I wonder if these Whitakers could be the descendants of Thomas Whitaker > that > you mention who died in 1787 in Surry County leaving a will naming sons > Johnson and Mark? Is his will dated 1787? I would like to get a copy. > Thanks > > Thanks, Rich Fulton, rfulton@us.ibm.com > World Wide Mid-Market Sales Executive, S/390 SW, SWG > IBM, home office > 1420 West Main Street, Apt. 1008 > Lewisville, TX. 75067 USA > Phone: 972-434-1033, t/l 450-8996 > Fax: 817-962-8780, t/l 522-8780 > > ==== WHITAKER Mailing List ==== > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp ==== WHITAKER Mailing List ==== WHITAKER List Administrator <commander@inetone.net> ============================== Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com

Per note below, I wondered where Johnson Whitaker named in the 1787 Surry NC Will of his father Thomas Whitaker went. Looks like pretty certain who moved a short distance first North to SW Virginia and then West to Eastern TN. Following is the abstract of the Will of Thomas Whitaker, March 1787, Surry County, NC. I believe this Thomas Whitaker to be a son of Mark Whitaker, whose birth as the son of Mark Whitaker Sr and Catharine Empson., is recorded in St. George's Parish Register Baltimore County, MD. on Feb. 15, 1716. This Mark Whitaker Jr. is believed to be the same Mark Whitaker who married Abigal Johnson Feb. 6, 1743 in Frederick County, MD. However it could also be that Thomas is the son of Mark Whitaker Sr. Thomas Whiteaker, son of Mark Whiteaker was born 13 June 1712. Besides the common first names Thomas and Mark, another common naming pattern fits this family. Mark Whitaker Sr., the father of Thomas named his third son EMPSON, after his wife's maiden name. Thomas Whitaker in his 1787 Will in Surry County NC., named his second son Johnson Whitaker, not John or Jonathan, but clearly Johnson and the first name Johnson is listed in tax lists and Johnson's 1784 marriage to Sarah Stafford in Surry County, NC. The wife's name Sarah is another strong link to the Thomas Whitaker leaving a will in Washington County, TN in 1799 being this same Thomas Whitaker of Surry County, NC. Following is the abstract of the Will of Thomas Whitaker who died in Surry County, NC. March 1787: ********************************** 2:78a. Will of Thomas (X) Whitticor. .. Mar 1787. Wife Mary Plantation on E side of Crk adj Harveys with reversion to son Mark. Dau Margaret, 1/2 moveable est. Son Johnson, the rest of land. Rest of my children: Elizabeth, Mary , Nancy, & Jane have had their share. Exrs: wf Mary, sons Mark & Johnson. Wit: John Harvey, Mark (X) Whiticor, Jo. Williams. Prvd. by Jos. Willams. Rec. Aug. Ct. 1787. **************************** Question/observation: The wording of this abstract by saying the daughters Elizabeth, Mary, Nancy, & Jane had "had their share" would seem to indicate that they were adults and probably given their share of inheritance as dowries when married. Anybody have a different interpretation? We would know then from marriage record of Johnson in 1784 and fact that son Mark is an executor, that Thomas had 6 adult children when he died. The fact that only Johnson Whitaker is recorded in Surry County, NC. marriage records may well mean the others were older and already married. If so, Johnson would be the 6th child. Since he was married in 1784, assuming he was 22 when he was married, he would have been born about 1762. Allowing typical two years between children in those days and allowing for at least two who did not survive to adulthood (probably low), then backing up 7X2 or 14 years, we get an estimated year of birth of the first of Thomas' children in about 1748. Probably earlier if Johnson was older than 22 and/or there were more gaps in births. If 1748 is close to accurate as the date of the birth of Thomas' first child, then he is likely the son of Mark Sr. of Baltimore MD., not Mark Jr. of Baltimore MD. Mark Jr. was married in 1743 in Frederick County, MD. Even if he had had a previous wife, if Thomas was 22 in 1748, Mark Jr. (born 1716) would have been only 10 years old when Thomas was born. What do any of you think? I have additional information about the family of Mark Whitaker Sr. of Baltimore County, MD who died in 1729 and the NC connection I will forward in another note. I am descended from a Thomas Whitaker born January 26, 1788 in Virginia. He came to Washington County, Tennessee prior to 1813 as he married a Jemima Edgeman on April 25, 1813 in Washington County. Their children were Winton, Nancy, Rachel, Jesse R., Richard W., Elizabeth, Joseph, Stephen A. and John W. I have not been able to determine who Thomas' parents are. Interestingly, there is a will for a Johnson Whitaker in Washington County which mentions the following: Johnson Whitaker October 24, 1799 Wife, Sarah and children. Executrix, Sarah Whitaker. Teste: Mark Whitaker, Jonathan Tullis. February Sessions, 1800. Signed Johnson Whitaker Also, in the Washington County List of Taxables, there is a Mark Whitacre listed in Captain Morrison's company for tax years 1793 through 1796. This may be the same Mar Whitaker who is found listed in the book "Roster of Soldiers and Patriots of the American Revolution Buried in Tennessee". Information in the book shows him born on April 8, 1750 in North Carolina and died 1842 in Lincoln County, TN. He married Catherine Boone on 3-1-1780 in Rowan County, NC. Children are Rebecca, Nancy, John, Mary, Sarah, Martha, Benjamin, Judy, Mark Jr., and Perlina. The book also lists Richard Whitaker born c1760 in North Carolina, died in Lincoln County, TN. There is also a John Whitaker born 1760 in Salisbury District, NC, died 6-11-1837 in Lincoln County, TN. I wonder if these Whitakers could be the descendants of Thomas Whitaker that you mention who died in 1787 in Surry County leaving a will naming sons Johnson and Mark? Is his will dated 1787? I would like to get a copy. Thanks Thanks, Rich Fulton, rfulton@us.ibm.com World Wide Mid-Market Sales Executive, S/390 SW, SWG IBM, home office 1420 West Main Street, Apt. 1008 Lewisville, TX. 75067 USA Phone: 972-434-1033, t/l 450-8996 Fax: 817-962-8780, t/l 522-8780

I am descended from a Thomas Whitaker born January 26, 1788 in Virginia. He came to Washington County, Tennessee prior to 1813 as he married a Jemima Edgeman on April 25, 1813 in Washington County. Their children were Winton, Nancy, Rachel, Jesse R., Richard W., Elizabeth, Joseph, Stephen A. and John W. I have not been able to determine who Thomas' parents are. Interestingly, there is a will for a Johnson Whitaker in Washington County which mentions the following: Johnson Whitaker October 24, 1799 Wife, Sarah and children. Executrix, Sarah Whitaker. Teste: Mark Whitaker, Jonathan Tullis. February Sessions, 1800. Signed Johnson Whitaker Also, in the Washington County List of Taxables, there is a Mark Whitacre listed in Captain Morrison's company for tax years 1793 through 1796. This may be the same Mar Whitaker who is found listed in the book "Roster of Soldiers and Patriots of the American Revolution Buried in Tennessee". Information in the book shows him born on April 8, 1750 in North Carolina and died 1842 in Lincoln County, TN. He married Catherine Boone on 3-1-1780 in Rowan County, NC. Children are Rebecca, Nancy, John, Mary, Sarah, Martha, Benjamin, Judy, Mark Jr., and Perlina. The book also lists Richard Whitaker born c1760 in North Carolina, died in Lincoln County, TN. There is also a John Whitaker born 1760 in Salisbury District, NC, died 6-11-1837 in Lincoln County, TN. I wonder if these Whitakers could be the descendants of Thomas Whitaker that you mention who died in 1787 in Surry County leaving a will naming sons Johnson and Mark? Is his will dated 1787? I would like to get a copy. Thanks ---- Original Message ----- From: Richard Fulton <rfulton@us.ibm.com> To: <WHITAKER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 12:50 AM Subject: [WHITAKER] Surry NC Whitaker's: Maryland Connection, 300 Yrs in America??? > Thanks to Susan Gall for sending more details on the Surry NC Whitaker > clan. I have a fairly large collection of Maryland Whitaker information > as well as access to a great library in Dallas. I started poking around > at the Surry NC Whitaker origins puzzle. I think the following contain > good possibilities. I will leave it up to the reader to decide. Also, > if I somebody spots an error in the information or logic, please speak up. > Here goes. > > The data that exists from Surry County, NC strongly points to a Robert > Whitaker who died in Surry County NC about 1782 and wife Mary and their two > sons, William the elder and Jonathan who are the progenitors of the large > Surry NC Whitaker clan. Rumors and/or family stories suggest Maryland as > the birthplace of William and that Robert and family migrated from Maryland > to NC sometime prior to 1782. Since William's eldest son, Isaac, was > born in 1773, William was likely about 1750 or earlier. > > Very logical assumptions have been made in the past linking the Robert > Whitaker of 1782 Surry County, NC. to the Robert Whitaker and Mary Hall of > the Quaker Joshua Whitaker clan to came to PA about 1719 from Lancashire > England by way of Ireland. In Bruce Whitaker's book "Whitaker, Reed, > Harper, Wright", and other publications, members of this Joshua Whitaker PA > family are traced to early (by 1759) Rowan County, NC., founding a large > Whitaker NC clan, most of whom moved west to Buncombe County, NC. > However, it seems clear that neither Robert and Mary Hall Whitaker, nor > their children, went to NC, but only slightly south of PA into Cecil > County, MD where they died with a will recorded. So that is not the > link. > > Another possibility is the Family of Mark Whitaker who was in Baltimore > County, MD. by 1702 (tax lists) and died there on May 1, 1729. His two > marriages and seven children are recorded in St. George's Parish Register. > There is no Robert listed, although it is always possible there was a son > Robert who is just not listed in the Parish registers. Mark's widdow > remarried to Francis Taylor on Oct. 1729 and soon thereafter the family > disappears from Baltimore County with members showing up in Prince George's > County and Frederick County, MD., and then to Rowan County, NC., by 1768. > It is my belief that Thomas Whitaker, son of Mark and Catherine Teag > Whitaker, born June 13, 1712 in Baltimore County, MD., is the same Thomas > Whitaker who died in 1787 in Surry County, NC., leaving a will naming sons > Mark and Johnson Whitaker. Due to the close proximity of members of the > Mark Whitaker of Baltimore County, MD family to who I believe is the family > of Robert Whitaker of Surry County, NC., in Prince George's County and > Frederick County, MD., and Surry County, NC., I would be willing to bet > there is a close family relationship. I believe Thomas and Robert > Whitaker of early Surry County, NC., are likely cousins, if not brothers. > It appears that any descendents of Thomas Whitaker who died in Surry NC in > 1787 left the county soon after 1800, and the large Whitaker clan of Surry > NC., are descended from William and Jonathan Whitaker, sons of Robert > Whitaker who died in Surry NC about 1782 and his wife Mary. > > Origins of Robert Whitaker, died ca. 1782 in Surry County, NC. > I believe that Robert Whitaker, patriarch of the Surry County, NC., > Whitaker's was the son of Robert Whitaker of Prince George's County, MD. > > Land records are pretty complete for Prince George's County, MD., from the > creation of the County in 1695. In searching those records, I first find > Robert Whitaker registering a cattle mark (brand) on January 4, 1731 in > Prince George's County (Liber Q, p. 399). Registering a cattle mark was > often done by a young man just strarting out in adult life, but could also > have been some one moving into the County at any age. > > The next entry I find (liber T, p. 480) is of a Robert Whitaker, "Gent." > who buys a tract of land called "Pentaland Hills" in Prince Georges County, > MD., on June 13, 1737 (deed recorded July 1, 1737) from RIchard Walles. > The price is 60pds and size is estimated at 100 acres. The appellation > "Gent." was usually reserved for men of some prosperity and education, so > apparently Robert Whitaker was doing well. > > I found in interesting that a cattle mark in registered in Prince Georges > County, MD., on July 1, 1734 by Flower Swift. Flower Swift is also in a > list of petitioners in Prince George's MD., in 1739. Flower Swift is > listed in the St. George Parish Register of Baltimore County, MD., as > marrying Elizabeth Whitaker, daughter of Mark Whitaker on Mary 13, 1725. > The name is so unusual, it is highly likely this is the same person and > puts members of Mark Whitaker Baltimore MD family in Prince Georges MD at > same time as Robert Whitaker. Another connection is found in a > Baltimore County, MD land transaction as follows: > 25, Feb. 1739: Thomas Whitaker of PG. Co. conveys 100 acres, part of a > tract called Westwood, which was formerly conveyed by Robert West to Mark > Whitaker, father of the grantor, back to Robert West. (HWS#1-A: 382) > > Here we have a second member of the Baltimore MD Mark Whitaker family > moving to Prince Georges County, MD., where Robert Whitaker lived. At > the name Thomas matches the Thomas Whitaker who died in Surry County, NC. > 1787. I therefore think it likely these are the same men. There is > also a land transaction in Prince Georges County, MD., (PG Land Record Book > BB 1, page 278), in which Thomas Whittaker for 20lbs buys a 50 acre tract > of land called "Prevention" on March 29, 1745, from Priscilla Wilson and > her son Thomas Wilson. > > The next entry for Robert Whitaker I found in LIber Y, p. 176, a Special > Petition of Robert Whitaker, Gent., regarding boundaries of "Pentland's > Hills" made April 17, 1740. Apparently "Pentland's Hills" was either > bigger than they thought, or Robert added to it with transactions not > recorded as on Nov. 23, 1743, Robert Whitaker of Prince Georges County, > MD., Gent., give the deed to "Pentland Hills" now listed as containing > about 300 acres as well as title to 13 slaves to James Russell of PG, > Merchant. Robert obtains 180lbs. money, but the deed is conditional and > is void if Robert pays back the money within 2 years. Apparently Robert > wanted or needed cash for something and obtained a loan and put up his land > as collateral. > > Unfortunately my Dallas library only has the transcripts for Prince > George's County Land books through 1746. The records exist beyond that, > and further research may well shed further light on the family through land > transactions. > > The next records regarding the family of Robert Whitaker of Prince Georges > MD., is found in the Will of Alexander Magruder, of Prince Georges County, > MD., written Feb. 4, 1740 and proved May 20, 1746. Among other family > bequests, Alexander leaves a slave to his daughter Elizabeth Whiteaker and > the southernmost half of a piece of land to Robert Whitaker and his wife > Elizabeth. From this it seems clear that Robert's wife was Elizabeth > Magruder. ( keep in mind this is Robert Whitaker Sr., whom I believe is > the father of Robert Whitaker of Surry NC.). > > Digressing a moment on the Magruder line. From pages 533 through 548 from > the book "Across The Years In Prince George's County, MD.", 1947, is an > article on the PG Magruder family. Magruder is a branch of the Scottish > Clan Mac Gregor said to be founded by Gregor, youngest son of Alpin > MacAchaia, King of the Scots from 833-836AD. It is reported in a > genealogy by Dr. Edward Magruder that Alexander Magruder (father of > Robert's father-in-law Alexander above), the immigrant to America was the > 3rd Great Grandson of Gillespie MacGregor, third son of Gregor MacGregor, > 12th Chief of the Clan. The history reports that Alexander Magruder Sr. > the immigrant, was born in Perthshire, Scotland, in 1610, and first appears > in Colonial Records of MD in 1653. He acquired considerable property and > left many descendants. His son Alexander Jr., father in law of Robert > Whitaker in Prince Georges MD., is listed as born in 1671 and died in > 1746, and was three times Justice of Prince Georges County, MD. > > The next piece of evidence and perhaps the most telling piece is the Will > of Robert Whitaker Sr., in Prince Georges County, MD. proved: June 27, > 1753. > He give his person estate to his 7 youngest children: Susannah, Elizabeth, > Susan, Henry, Sarah, Priscilla, and Alexander. Although not named, his > wife Elizabeth was still living as evidenced by son William's will of 1757. > He then gives to his two eldest sons, William and Robert, all the tract I > dwell on. It is this Robert Jr. whom I think is the Robert who founded > the Surry NC Whitaker clan. The naming conventions are interesting. > By naming his second son after himself and his fourth son after his > father-in-law, Alexander Magruder, he seems to be following classic naming > patterns common in Northern Europe. Filling in the blanks, one could > logically assume that Robert Sr's father's name was William and his > grandfather's name was Henry. > > Another connection with clues is found in the 1776 Census of Maryland in > which in Frederick County, MD (where Mark Whitaker Jr. from Baltimore > County, MD., moved and was married) is an Alexander Whitaker, age 30, wife > Hester age 25, and daughter Elizabeth Magruder Whitaker age 2. This > clearly would be Robert Sr's youngest child named in his 1753 Prince > Georges County, MD will. This puts the birth of Robert Sr. youngest son > at 1746 and generally allowing at least two years between children, would > place Robert Whitaker Jr.'s birth at 1732 or earlier. This matches with > Robert Jr being at least 21 at the death of his father in 1753. The > location of Alexander in 1776 Frederick County, MD. is yet another clue to > a family connection to the Mark Whitaker, Baltimore MD family. Did this > Alexander move south. Likely. He is not in 1790 Maryland Census and an > Alexander Whitaker shows up in 1782 list of men subject to having property > confiscated in Rowan County, NC., along with a Henry (not brother of Robert > Jr.), Giles (a large Giles surname family existed in Baltimore County, MD > when Mark's family was there), James (Mark Sr. had a son James), John, and > RIchard. > > The other brothers of Robert Whitaker Jr. of Prince Georges County, MD., > died without heirs. William's will was proved in Prince Georges MD. > March 20, 1757, in which he names his brothers: Henry, Alexander, and > Robert, his mother Elizabeth, and the same "Pentland Hills" tract of land > his father had (apparently he paid back the loan). Brother Henry's died > in Prince Georges MD. Feb. 2, 1773, and left an estate of 323lbs. His > brother Robert was administrator. Next of kin named are Alexander > Whitaker and Susanna Whitaker. This indicates Robert Jr was still in MD > in 1773. Three court actions are brought regarding Henry's estate. One > on Nov. 3, 1778, Robert Whitaker is still listed as executor. Two later > ones dated Nov 28, 1781, and April 13, 1783 show a new executor, Austin > Allen. From this it would appear that Robert Whitaker Jr., left Prince > Georges County, MD before 1781, which matches earliest dates of Robert > Whitaker showing up in Surry County NC. > > Further research in land records of Prince Georges County MD., could > provide further confirmation, but it certainly appears to me that the > Robert Whitaker of Prince Georges County, MD. is the founder of the Surry > County, NC Whitaker families. > > Last, where did Robert Whitaker who shows up in 1731 in Prince Georges > County, MD., come from? As I indicated, he could be an unlisted son of > Mark Whitaker of Baltimore County, MD. However since the family naming > patterns are so different, I rather doubt this. Mark of Baltimore had > sons Thomas, Mark, Empson (after wife's maiden name), and James. None > of these names match Robert's Prince Georges MD family of WIlliam, Robert, > Henry, and Alexander. The close proximity of the families suggest some > kinship. Since Mark Sr. of Baltimore MD died in 1729 when his children > were all minors, perhaps some of all decided to move to stay with relative > Robert in Prince Georges County. Perhaps an uncle or cousin. > > So where might Robert have come from? Robert Whitaker is not an > extremely common name. An interesting possibility is a record in "The > Complete Book of Emigrants" by Coldham. vol. 3. 1700-1750. On page 23 is > a listing of men apprenticed at Liverpool to Mr Thomas Leckonby to be > shipped to Virginia on the ship "Globe" on January 23, 1701. In the list > is a Robert Whitaker, of Lancashire, age 19, to serve 4 years . Aside > from agriculture, the largest industry and employer in the Colonies at the > time shipping. It was not unusual for young men without means to serve a > career at sea, amassing some wealth, and then only after a number of years, > settling down to marry and build a family as a country Gentleman. Could > this 19 years old Robert Whitaker from Lancashire, England, apprenticed to > VA be the same Robert Whitaker who arrived in Prince Georges County MD, > some years later, perhaps marrying in the 1720's to Elizabeth Magruder, > daughter of a well to do land owner? If so, this year would mark the > 300th anniversary of this Whitaker branch immigration to America. > Perhaps further research in VA or other counties in MD records before 1730 > will shed light on where Robert Sr. came from. I did do a search of all > MD wills before 1730 and did not find any reference to a Robert Whitaker. > > Please feel free to ask questions, correct, or enhance this analysis. I > hope the readers find it helpful. > > > > > > > Thanks, Rich Fulton, rfulton@us.ibm.com > World Wide Mid-Market Sales Executive, S/390 SW, SWG > IBM, home office > 1420 West Main Street, Apt. 1008 > Lewisville, TX. 75067 USA > Phone: 972-434-1033, t/l 450-8996 > Fax: 817-962-8780, t/l 522-8780 > > > ==== WHITAKER Mailing List ==== > WHITAKER List Administrator > <commander@inetone.net> > > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history > learning and how-to articles on the Internet. > http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library >

Joyce, if you get any time to do Whitaker Research in England, I would suggest the following. I am copying the list as we have members who live in England and others who may also be planning Genealogy trips. I hope you find the following helpful. If I have made any errors in the following, please correct me. Thanks and good hunting. In London, go to The Society of Genealogists, 14 Charterhouse Buildings, London, EC1M 7BA. The building doesn't look like much from the outside, but upstairs they have a lot of British Isles Genealogy information including many County records. Most of the early Whitakers are from the area on both side of the County border between Lancashire and York in NW England. If you have a chance, I suggest specifically looking at the old Parish Registers from: Rochdale, Antham, Padiham, Holme, Burnley, and Oldham in Lancashire, and Dewsbury and Skipton in Yorkshire. I am sure there are other Parishes also where you will find early Whitakers. National records for England and Wales are I think keep in two primary locations in London. Most recent (within the last 200 years) records on British birth, marriage, death, probate, etc. are kept in the General Register Office, St. Catherine's House, 10 Kingsway, London, WC2B 6JP. However most of us Americans are looking for English connections pre-1800. Copies of old parish registers (often going back to 1558, the date the govt required Churches to keep these records) and all census information (The British only started doing a nationwide census in 1810) are located at the Public Record Office(PRO). Most records for parish registers and censuses are keep at the PRO office on Chancery Lane, London, WC 2A 1LR. I believe they also house military records there which might be of interest to some. Considering the many American Whitakers with established or suspected Quaker ties, I would be very interested in any Whitaker records found among the records and indexes keep by the Quakers and located at: Friends' House, Euston Road, London NW1 2BJ. The Quakers kept very complete records since George Fox founded the sect in the mid 1600's. At Friends' House are 85 volumes of records containing 260,000 births, 40,000 marriages, and 310,000 burials. If you get up north to Lancashire and Yorkshire, try stopping in Lancashire at the County Record Office (CRO) located at Bow Lane, Preston PR1 8ND. They have all the Parish registers there. Wills also exist back to 1545 and name indexes are available in the CRO. Suggest to check there for 1600's Whitaker's looking for Mark son of Thomas, Robert son of WIlliam, William son of Henry, anyone son of Joshua, and John son of Charles among others. They could be clues. They also have marriage records in the CRO. In addition to local records, there is an England wide multivolumne set of books indexes all marriages in England. If you can find, you might check there. Yorkshire is now two Counties, North Yorkshire and South Yorkshire. I think most Whitaker information will be in North Yorkshire. Their CRO also has many records. You visit there by appointment only. They are open M-F during normal business hours and late on Wednesday's. Of course, be aware my information in old and this may have changed. The North Yorkshire CRO is located at County Hall, Northallerton, North Yorkshire, DL7 8AD. ph: (0609) 3123, ext. 455. Hi, Rich Wow, you've done a lot of research! We're going to England in a couple of weeks, and I don't know if we'll even be in Lancashire. But if we are, would it help to look up this Robert Whitaker, or do you know enough about him yet? I'm not sure where to start looking, but if you could suggest something (birth date, etc.), I'll see what happens. Of course, it's also dependent on getting my family to stop long enough for me to go to a city hall, etc. They're not as interested in genealogy yet! Joyce Dressel Thanks, Rich Fulton, rfulton@us.ibm.com World Wide Mid-Market Sales Executive, S/390 SW, SWG IBM, home office 1420 West Main Street, Apt. 1008 Lewisville, TX. 75067 USA Phone: 972-434-1033, t/l 450-8996 Fax: 817-962-8780, t/l 522-8780