Hello! I found the attached on the rootsweb Whaley archives. I would very much be interested in any information regarding James Whaley and Sarah Gardiner/Gordonier, such as parents names, siblings, places and dates of birth, marriage, death, children's names, etc. No detail is too small! I am also willing to contribute towards the costs incurred by others to obtain this information. Below are some family history excerpts and notes. I found James Whaley listed as a landowner in Florence NY in 1814. Orange Barlow and Elizabeth Whaley are my g-g-g-grandparents. They moved to Mich abt 1833. Many thanks! Clarke Macy From: < RLNSD@aol.com> Subject: James Whaley and Sarah Gordonier Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 14:52:20 EDT In George's oldest known ancestor list Phyllis Stewart says "James Whaley (m Sarah Gordonier ?--1827, Oneida Co NY)" I don't know what kind of data Phyllis is looking for. I have FGSs on James and Sarah and 7 of their 11 children. If Phyllis would send me whatever info she has found on this couple and her line of descent from them as well as her sources:-family bible, public records, census, obituaries, cemetery records or whatever they were, I will then copy and send from my records whatever else she may want or need. I have MUCH data and have corresponded in 1988 and 1991 with 2 other researchers who descend from this line. Jackie Weeden (rlnsd@aol.com) Our oral family history has James m. Sarah Gardiner (Gordinier, etc). Recently we received a written history from another relative, written by Nathan Pratt Barlow of Camden NY. Here are some excerpts: "My grandfather [Nathan Barlow] had a neighbor on Florence Hill named Whaley. He died about 40 and left a family of eleven children. The fourth child in the family was a little girl named Betsy. My grandfather [Nathan Barlow] and step grandmother [widow Corey] adopted her into the family. When my father [Orange Barlow, son of Nathan Barlow, father of the author Nathan Pratt Barlow] came home from Chataqua, he married the adopted sister. She was 21 years old." ..."[Eliz Whaley] was born in Florence Hill in 1805. Her father's name was James Whaley. Her mother's name was Sarah Gardinier Whaley. When she was a little girl on the death of her father, she was adopted into the family of Nathan Barlow then living in Camden with his second wife the widow Corey. She was married to Orange Barlow on his return from Chataqua, in 1826."..."She came of a strong and vital stock, the Gardinier's (pronounced Gordnier) one of the old Dutch families of the Mohawk River Valley in the state of NY." "My grandfather Whaley [James Whaley] was a quiet peaceable little man with a small hard stony hemlock farm on Florence Hill NY where he died of fever about the age of forty years. His wife was of a different pattern. She was of one of those Dutch families who made their way up the Hudson River and up the Mohawk and were called by the Yankee settlers Mohawk River Dutch. Her maiden name was Gardnier (pronounced Gordnier). She was the Cynthia of a pair of twins Sarah and Cynthia. ..she was tall, strong and vigorous. She had eleven children, the eleventh born after her husband's death which was when he was about forty years old. She was a weaver and with her loom and the little hard farm she worked out the problem of the support of her family. She kept them all at home except my mother who was Elizabeth, or as they called her Betsy. She was taken by my grandfather Nathan Barlow and his second wife [widow Corey] and brought up in their family." Notes for Eliz Whaley Barlow: Death certificate from Ingham Co. Clerk (Mason MI) dated 13 Aug 1884. d. 21 July 1883. age 66 yr 11 mon _ days. place Onandaga MI. Killed in her house by cyclone. born in NY. Occupation: housekeeper. Parents names: James Whaley & Sally Whaley. Residence: NY ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Cemetery: Lame Cem (Onandaga burial Ground). headstone: "Elizabeth Barlow, wife of Orange. Killed by tornado 23 July 1883. Age 77 yr 10 mon 23 days" ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ The date on the headstone is thought to be correct, not the age given on the death certificate, because other family notes have 1805 as the birth year. Also notice the death certificate record date, if correct, is a year after her death. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------- Eliz. was skilled in spinning wool and flax on a spinning wheel. James Rodney Barlow, her son, made a small bowl of wood from the spinning wheel. Now in possession of Clarke Macy (2005). I also found another person's Ancestry.com tree "Rice and Siegrist Families" that shows Hester Ann Whaley b. 11 Aug 1818 in Camden NY to James Whaley & Sarah Gordonier. She married Nathan W. Griswold on 8 Dec 1839, b. 17 Sep 1817 in Fairfield Herkimer Co NY. She died 5 Dec 1894 Waverly Lancaster NE. I have not been able to get in touch with the author Phyllis Stewart.