Frank and Angela- Below are some informational anecdotes concerning the Whalley line credited to one, Geoffrey Jaggar. Mr. Jaggar was an academic and has supplied copious footnotes with the following information which convinces me that this information is probably accurate. The architect of the original Whalley family fortune was Richard Whalley, 'the elder' (1489-1583), great grandfather of Edward Whalley, the regicide. Said Richard was descended from an earlier Richard, of Darlaston, Staffordshire. This Darlaston Richard Whalley was the husband of Elizabeth Leak; Ms. Leak was heir to the ancient family seat of the Leaks - Kirkton Hall in Screveton, Nottinghamshire, which then became property of the Whalley family. Richard the elder was a rather corrupt fellow, but a very astute and opportunistic administrator. Whalley was employed by Thomas Cromwell in the desolution of monestaries during the religious upheavals of the early 16th century. Whalley was granted Welbeck Abbey, Bellers Grange, Hurst Grange and Gledthorpe Grange. A few years later Whalley, acquired the chantry of Sibthorpe. Whalley, in his capacity as Crown Receiver for Yorkshire, was later accused and convicted of appropriating Crown funds for his own use. Whalley also spent two periods imprisoned as a result of his many political intrigues surrounding the Duke of Somerset and was finally released from the Tower in 1552 and fined heavily. This was not to be his final imprisonment, however. He was imprisoned in September 1552 for illegal alchemical activities through and employee named Richard Eden. A quarrel erupted after Eden's unsuccessful search for the elusive philosopher's stone, Eden then betrayed his former employer and Whalley was imprisoned and fined heavily once again. He was forced to give up Welbeck and other substantial properties as a result. At Mary's accession, Richard successfully repaired his damaged reputation and reacquired massive wealth and extensive properties. Richard's third wife, Barbara, erected the tomb to his memory in the Screveton church. Thomas Whalley, his eldest son, predeceased Richard the elder in death in 1582. Thus Richard Whalley, Richard the elder's grandson and father of Edward the regicide, inherited the Whalley estates. This father of Edward is considered Richard, 'the younger'. Robert Whaley Rochester, NY Frank Whalley wrote: > It may be worth mentioning that Hinchingbrooke was not a village or > town, but a country house and estate. It is currently used as a > school, a there is a lot of info on this site: > > http://www.hinchhouse.org.uk/ > > It was formerly the site of a Priory, which was dissolved by Henry > VIII and given to Richard Cromwell, ancestory of Oliver Cromwell, the > Lord Protector. > > What I find puzzling is why Richard Whalley who married Frances > Cromwell, Oliver's aunt, should be born at Hinchingbrooke, since the > Whalleys at that time lived at Screveton in Nottinghamshire. > > Brown's History of Nottinghamshire, on this site: > > http://www.nottshistory.org.uk/Brown1896/screveton.htm > > shows a picture of a Whalley monument iin Screveton church, and the > quotation which appears in Rev. Sam. Whaley's book. The monument was > erected to a Richard Whalley who died in 1584 by his widow. The text > it says that this Richard was the grandfather of the Richard Whalley > who married Frances Cromwell. > > Frank Whalley > Penarth, nr Cardiff, Wales, UK > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > From: Carolyn Vosburg <lynvos@sbcglobal.net> > Reply-To: WHALEY-L@rootsweb.com > To: WHALEY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [WSP] Richard WHALLEY md. Frances CROMWELL, attempt #2!!! > Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2006 20:30:21 -0500 > > Okay, if at first you don't succeed . . . . . > > Richard WHALLEY > b. ca 1544 Hinchinbrooke, Huntingdonshire, England > > Father: Thomas WHALLEY > Mother: Elizabeth Hatfield > > md. Frances CROMWELL ca. 1573 > > It appears to me that this Thomas would be your oldest ancestor, Angela! > > > C. > > > ==== WHALEY Mailing List ==== > To Unsubscribe from this list - send email to - > whaley-L-request@rootsweb.com with the single word - unsubscribe in > the body of the email. If you are subscribed in Digest mode use the > same address but change the -L- to -D-. > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > ==== WHALEY Mailing List ==== > Wish to post from more than one address? Contact list administrator at > whaley-admin@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >