Justin, Good thought. I have been working on this for 30 years off and on. Having been an Air Force Brat born far from the family, most of whom were elderly or already dead when I started looking, it has been an uphill climb. I feel sure that connections will be made at some point and likely sooner than later with the number of Whaley's that have become interested. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Justin Whaley" <xypher9@gmail.com> To: <WHALEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2006 8:16 PM Subject: Re: [WSP] James WHALEY b. 1728, New Kent VA d. 1784, Loudoun Co, VA >I have to say Paul I think it would clear up a lot for the different Whaley > branches once we get to across the pond. I have been taking a few > different > history classes on colonization and revolution of America to help get an > idea on the period to better help us trace our ancestry. > Speaking of which I have found out that the majority of those who came to > the cololnies were indentured servants in the 17th century. They were poor > or homeless who signed a contract to come work for a planter for 4 or more > years. The planter would pay thier way and after the contract was up he > would be given either land or money. It is possible one of our ancestors > was > an indentured servant for the Carter family. That would explain why we > were > given Carter lands and then made Overseer of his plantations. Since James > Sr. and Jr. were both overseer's for Carter and this possible third James > before them. Its an idea anyways. > > On 7/1/06, Paul Whaley <paulw2@charter.net> wrote: >> >> Carolyn, >> >> This James then is the father of James born in 1728? My Benjamin >> was >> a >> son of the 1728 James. >> >> This is more than I had. One step further back. Windows will be fine >> and >> I deeply appreciate your consideration. Seems like the key is taking the >> family back across the seas which would clear up much. >> >> Paul >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Carolyn Vosburg" <lynvos@sbcglobal.net> >> To: <WHALEY-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2006 5:32 PM >> Subject: [WSP] James WHALEY b. 1728, New Kent VA d. 1784, Loudoun Co, VA >> >> >> > On Jul 1, 2006, at 3:31 PM, Paul Whaley wrote: >> > >> >> Just wish I knew who James' (1728 Loudoun County) father had been. >> >> >> >> Paul Whaley >> >> >> > >> > Paul, >> > For such a long time I thought that James above might be my ancestor. >> > Eventually >> > I created a Gedcom file of everyone connected to that line! If you'd >> like >> > it, I'll be glad to >> > send it. I would just need to know the format of your genealogy >> program, >> > whether it's >> > Windows, MS-DOS or Ancel. Just let me know 1) if you want it and 2) >> > which format! >> > >> > Here is the entry for the father of your James, I believe. >> > >> > Family Group Report 7/1/06: >> > >> > Gen. 1 James WHALEY >> > ————————————————————————————————————————————— >> > Birth: 1684, Westmoreland Co, Virginia >> > Death: bef 4 Jun 1750, Richmond Co, VA >> > Occ: Planter; lived in New Kent Co, VA before Richmond Co. >> > >> > JAMES WHALEY was born about 1684 in Westmoreland County Virginia. He >> had >> > previously lived in New Kent County, Virginia but died in 1750 in >> Richmond >> > County, Virginia, where he owned a large plantation. His will, dated >> Jan. >> > 4, 1749 and probated June 4, 1750, named his wife Elizabeth and his >> sons. >> > Issue of James & Elizabeth Whaley: >> > >> > WILLIAM WHALEY b 1717 Lived in Loudoun Co Va d Fairfax Va 1790 >> > md 1st Lena Mason ; (one son, Wm.); md 2nd Barbara Remy >> > (d12 Dec 1826 Bourbon Co Ky) dau of Jacob Remy III and his wife Sarah >> > >> > THOMAS WHALEY b 1724 New Kent Co., VA md Margaret PUGH >> > >> > (Gen. 2) JAMES WHALEY Jr b July 19 1728 New Kent Co Va d 1784 Cameron >> > Parish Loudoun Co Va md 1st Lydia Ann Remy dau of Jacob Remy III & his >> > wife Sarah; md 2nd Ann (Talbott) Carter, widow of James Carter >> > >> > The record in St. Peter's Parish, New Kent County, Virginia reads: >> > "James Whaley, son of James Whaley, born July ye 19 baptized Aug. 11, >> > 1728." >> > >> > There is a listing in the log of Ship's Passenger Lists of a James >> Whaley >> > coming to Virginia in 1698, from O'Brien, Michael J. "Granters of Land >> in >> > Colony & State of VA" Journal of the American Irish Historical Society >> 13 >> > (1913--14) pp. 214--219. (Who is this?) >> > >> > Deed Abstracts of Stafford Co >> > VA 1722- 1728, 1755-1765: >> > On pp519-521: "This Indenture made 12th June 1728 between Thomas Owsley >> of >> > Parish Overwharton, County Stafford, Planter, & James Whaley of Parish >> > Washington in county Westmoreland, Planter ... in consideration sum of >> > 8000 pounds Tobacco ... by deeds of lease & release .. sold land in >> Parish >> > Overwharton on a Run comonly called Accotink Run containing 250 acres >> > whereof is to lye on South side of the said run which said parcel is >> part >> > of a Patent for 600 acres formerly granted to Major Thomas Owsley, >> father >> > to aforesaid Thomas by Deed 17th November 1696." >> > On pp132-133: "1730 Û The Estate of Thomas Reilly to Charles >> > McClelland >> > and Eliza: his wife, executrix of the last will and testament of said >> > Thomas >> > Reilly, deceased Dr. paid Henry Floyd, John Coos, Stephen Sploon, Enoch >> > Innys, Rawleigh Chinn, John Mercer, Wm. Brent, Joseph Waugh, John >> Toward, >> > Corn received of James Whaley & Humphrey Evans & used for the Stock and >> > family...At Court held for Stafford County 13th March 1733..." >> > NOTE: Paul, I've never been able to verify WHICH James Whaley this is >> > referring to; could be yours, could me mine, or another James even yet! >> > CWV >> > >> > Will of James Whaley, Executed 4 January 1749, Proved 4 June 1750, >> > Recorded in Richmond County, VA, Will Book 5, pg. 613: >> > "In the name of God Amen I James Whaley of the Parish of Lunenburg in >> the >> > County of Richmond being of a Perfect Sense and Memory Praised be >> Almighty >> > God for the same and Knowing that Nothing is more Certain than Death >> > Soe >> > Nothing is more Uncertain than the time thereof, I hope to have full >> > and >> > free Pardon and forgiveness of all my sins and to be partaker of the >> > Glorious Resurrection Through our Lord Jesus by the Almighty Power of >> God >> > Do Make this Last Will and Testament in manner and form as followeth >> > And >> > as Touching the Disposition of such Temporal Estate as it hath Pleased >> > Almighty God to bestow upon me I give and bequeath in the following >> manner >> > & form. >> > Item. I Give and Bequeath my horse and side Saddle and Negro fellow >> Named >> > Tom and a Bed and furniture and the Crop of Corn and Tobacco on the >> > Plantation whereon the said fellow now lives To my loving Wife >> Elizabeth, >> > during her Widowhood and if She Marries or Dies To my son Thomas >> > Whaley. >> > Item. I give and Bequeath to my son William Whaley all of my Waring >> > Cloath's and Saddle and one Bed and furniture and my Crop whereon I now >> > live and only my Debts to be paid out of it. >> > Item. I give and bequeath to my son James Whaley my Negro boy named >> Jack >> > To him and his heirs forever. I will that all the Rest of my Moveables >> > Should be Equally Divided Between my wife Elizabeth and my son William >> > Whaley. >> > Lastly I Nominate and Constitute and appoint my son William Whaley my >> > whole and Sole Executor of this my Last Will and Testament Revoking and >> > making void all other Wills by me heretofore made and this to stand as >> my >> > Last Will and Testament In witness whereof I have here unto set my hand >> > and Seale This 4th day of January 1749. >> > James (his x mark) Whaley >> > Signed Sealed and Published and >> > Declared to be his Last Will >> > and Testament in Presence of us >> > David Hilman >> > Daniel Bentley >> > >> > Item. I give and Bequeath to William Whaley my younger son four >> thousand >> > pounds of Tobo that Received for the Negro wench named Cabe of >> > Valentine >> > Garner and to be left in Col. John Taylor hands while the child comes >> > of >> > age and if he dies for it to fall to by Beloved son Thomas Whaley under >> > age. My Daughter I cut her off with a Shilling Sterling. >> > James (his x mark) Whaley >> > Test >> > Richard R. Hillman >> > his mark >> > David Bentley >> > >> > At a Court Held for Richmond County the fourth Day of June 1750. >> > This Will was Presented in Court by Elizabeth Whaley widdow and being >> > Proved by the Oaths of David Hilman and Daniel Bentley Witnesses >> > thereto >> > was by the Court Ordered to be Recorded. And also the Codicil thereon >> > Written was Prov'd by the Oath of Richard Hilman and by the Court >> Ordered >> > to be Recorded. >> > Test T. Tarpley DCC >> > >> > Spouse: Elizabeth Mrs. >> > Marr: 1714, Loudoun Co, VA >> > >> > Children: Thomas (1724-1791) >> > William (1717-1785) >> > James (1728-1784) >> > Unidentified Daughter >> > >> > >> > >> > ==== WHALEY Mailing List ==== >> > Having problems with your subscription? 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I agree. I also have noticed that the Whaley name is not a common name by any means and in a way that makes it a bit easier as we dont have to dig through names as much. On 7/1/06, Paul Whaley <paulw2@charter.net> wrote: > > Justin, > > Good thought. I have been working on this for 30 years off and on. > Having > been an Air Force Brat born far from the family, most of whom were elderly > or already dead when I started looking, it has been an uphill climb. > > I feel sure that connections will be made at some point and likely > sooner > than later with the number of Whaley's that have become interested. > Paul > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Justin Whaley" <xypher9@gmail.com> > To: <WHALEY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2006 8:16 PM > Subject: Re: [WSP] James WHALEY b. 1728, New Kent VA d. 1784, Loudoun Co, > VA > > > >I have to say Paul I think it would clear up a lot for the different > Whaley > > branches once we get to across the pond. I have been taking a few > > different > > history classes on colonization and revolution of America to help get an > > idea on the period to better help us trace our ancestry. > > Speaking of which I have found out that the majority of those who came > to > > the cololnies were indentured servants in the 17th century. They were > poor > > or homeless who signed a contract to come work for a planter for 4 or > more > > years. The planter would pay thier way and after the contract was up he > > would be given either land or money. It is possible one of our ancestors > > was > > an indentured servant for the Carter family. That would explain why we > > were > > given Carter lands and then made Overseer of his plantations. Since > James > > Sr. and Jr. were both overseer's for Carter and this possible third > James > > before them. Its an idea anyways. > > > > On 7/1/06, Paul Whaley <paulw2@charter.net> wrote: > >> > >> Carolyn, > >> > >> This James then is the father of James born in 1728? My Benjamin > >> was > >> a > >> son of the 1728 James. > >> > >> This is more than I had. One step further back. Windows will be > fine > >> and > >> I deeply appreciate your consideration. Seems like the key is taking > the > >> family back across the seas which would clear up much. > >> > >> Paul > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Carolyn Vosburg" <lynvos@sbcglobal.net> > >> To: <WHALEY-L@rootsweb.com> > >> Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2006 5:32 PM > >> Subject: [WSP] James WHALEY b. 1728, New Kent VA d. 1784, Loudoun Co, > VA > >> > >> > >> > On Jul 1, 2006, at 3:31 PM, Paul Whaley wrote: > >> > > >> >> Just wish I knew who James' (1728 Loudoun County) father had been. > >> >> > >> >> Paul Whaley > >> >> > >> > > >> > Paul, > >> > For such a long time I thought that James above might be my > ancestor. > >> > Eventually > >> > I created a Gedcom file of everyone connected to that line! If you'd > >> like > >> > it, I'll be glad to > >> > send it. I would just need to know the format of your genealogy > >> program, > >> > whether it's > >> > Windows, MS-DOS or Ancel. Just let me know 1) if you want it and 2) > >> > which format! > >> > > >> > Here is the entry for the father of your James, I believe. > >> > > >> > Family Group Report 7/1/06: > >> > > >> > Gen. 1 James WHALEY > >> > ————————————————————————————————————————————— > >> > Birth: 1684, Westmoreland Co, Virginia > >> > Death: bef 4 Jun 1750, Richmond Co, VA > >> > Occ: Planter; lived in New Kent Co, VA before Richmond Co. > >> > > >> > JAMES WHALEY was born about 1684 in Westmoreland County Virginia. He > >> had > >> > previously lived in New Kent County, Virginia but died in 1750 in > >> Richmond > >> > County, Virginia, where he owned a large plantation. His will, dated > >> Jan. > >> > 4, 1749 and probated June 4, 1750, named his wife Elizabeth and his > >> sons. > >> > Issue of James & Elizabeth Whaley: > >> > > >> > WILLIAM WHALEY b 1717 Lived in Loudoun Co Va d Fairfax Va 1790 > >> > md 1st Lena Mason ; (one son, Wm.); md 2nd Barbara Remy > >> > (d12 Dec 1826 Bourbon Co Ky) dau of Jacob Remy III and his wife Sarah > >> > > >> > THOMAS WHALEY b 1724 New Kent Co., VA md Margaret PUGH > >> > > >> > (Gen. 2) JAMES WHALEY Jr b July 19 1728 New Kent Co Va d 1784 > Cameron > >> > Parish Loudoun Co Va md 1st Lydia Ann Remy dau of Jacob Remy III & > his > >> > wife Sarah; md 2nd Ann (Talbott) Carter, widow of James Carter > >> > > >> > The record in St. Peter's Parish, New Kent County, Virginia reads: > >> > "James Whaley, son of James Whaley, born July ye 19 baptized Aug. 11, > >> > 1728." > >> > > >> > There is a listing in the log of Ship's Passenger Lists of a James > >> Whaley > >> > coming to Virginia in 1698, from O'Brien, Michael J. "Granters of > Land > >> in > >> > Colony & State of VA" Journal of the American Irish Historical > Society > >> 13 > >> > (1913--14) pp. 214--219. (Who is this?) > >> > > >> > Deed Abstracts of Stafford Co > >> > VA 1722- 1728, 1755-1765: > >> > On pp519-521: "This Indenture made 12th June 1728 between Thomas > Owsley > >> of > >> > Parish Overwharton, County Stafford, Planter, & James Whaley of > Parish > >> > Washington in county Westmoreland, Planter ... in consideration sum > of > >> > 8000 pounds Tobacco ... by deeds of lease & release .. sold land in > >> Parish > >> > Overwharton on a Run comonly called Accotink Run containing 250 acres > >> > whereof is to lye on South side of the said run which said parcel is > >> part > >> > of a Patent for 600 acres formerly granted to Major Thomas Owsley, > >> father > >> > to aforesaid Thomas by Deed 17th November 1696." > >> > On pp132-133: "1730 Û The Estate of Thomas Reilly to Charles > >> > McClelland > >> > and Eliza: his wife, executrix of the last will and testament of said > >> > Thomas > >> > Reilly, deceased Dr. paid Henry Floyd, John Coos, Stephen Sploon, > Enoch > >> > Innys, Rawleigh Chinn, John Mercer, Wm. Brent, Joseph Waugh, John > >> Toward, > >> > Corn received of James Whaley & Humphrey Evans & used for the Stock > and > >> > family...At Court held for Stafford County 13th March 1733..." > >> > NOTE: Paul, I've never been able to verify WHICH James Whaley this > is > >> > referring to; could be yours, could me mine, or another James even > yet! > >> > CWV > >> > > >> > Will of James Whaley, Executed 4 January 1749, Proved 4 June 1750, > >> > Recorded in Richmond County, VA, Will Book 5, pg. 613: > >> > "In the name of God Amen I James Whaley of the Parish of Lunenburg in > >> the > >> > County of Richmond being of a Perfect Sense and Memory Praised be > >> Almighty > >> > God for the same and Knowing that Nothing is more Certain than Death > >> > Soe > >> > Nothing is more Uncertain than the time thereof, I hope to have full > >> > and > >> > free Pardon and forgiveness of all my sins and to be partaker of the > >> > Glorious Resurrection Through our Lord Jesus by the Almighty Power of > >> God > >> > Do Make this Last Will and Testament in manner and form as followeth > >> > And > >> > as Touching the Disposition of such Temporal Estate as it hath > Pleased > >> > Almighty God to bestow upon me I give and bequeath in the following > >> manner > >> > & form. > >> > Item. I Give and Bequeath my horse and side Saddle and Negro fellow > >> Named > >> > Tom and a Bed and furniture and the Crop of Corn and Tobacco on the > >> > Plantation whereon the said fellow now lives To my loving Wife > >> Elizabeth, > >> > during her Widowhood and if She Marries or Dies To my son Thomas > >> > Whaley. > >> > Item. I give and Bequeath to my son William Whaley all of my Waring > >> > Cloath's and Saddle and one Bed and furniture and my Crop whereon I > now > >> > live and only my Debts to be paid out of it. > >> > Item. I give and bequeath to my son James Whaley my Negro boy named > >> Jack > >> > To him and his heirs forever. I will that all the Rest of my > Moveables > >> > Should be Equally Divided Between my wife Elizabeth and my son > William > >> > Whaley. > >> > Lastly I Nominate and Constitute and appoint my son William Whaley my > >> > whole and Sole Executor of this my Last Will and Testament Revoking > and > >> > making void all other Wills by me heretofore made and this to stand > as > >> my > >> > Last Will and Testament In witness whereof I have here unto set my > hand > >> > and Seale This 4th day of January 1749. > >> > James (his x mark) Whaley > >> > Signed Sealed and Published and > >> > Declared to be his Last Will > >> > and Testament in Presence of us > >> > David Hilman > >> > Daniel Bentley > >> > > >> > Item. I give and Bequeath to William Whaley my younger son four > >> thousand > >> > pounds of Tobo that Received for the Negro wench named Cabe of > >> > Valentine > >> > Garner and to be left in Col. John Taylor hands while the child comes > >> > of > >> > age and if he dies for it to fall to by Beloved son Thomas Whaley > under > >> > age. My Daughter I cut her off with a Shilling Sterling. > >> > James (his x mark) Whaley > >> > Test > >> > Richard R. Hillman > >> > his mark > >> > David Bentley > >> > > >> > At a Court Held for Richmond County the fourth Day of June 1750. > >> > This Will was Presented in Court by Elizabeth Whaley widdow and being > >> > Proved by the Oaths of David Hilman and Daniel Bentley Witnesses > >> > thereto > >> > was by the Court Ordered to be Recorded. And also the Codicil > thereon > >> > Written was Prov'd by the Oath of Richard Hilman and by the Court > >> Ordered > >> > to be Recorded. > >> > Test T. Tarpley DCC > >> > > >> > Spouse: Elizabeth Mrs. > >> > Marr: 1714, Loudoun Co, VA > >> > > >> > Children: Thomas (1724-1791) > >> > William (1717-1785) > >> > James (1728-1784) > >> > Unidentified Daughter > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > ==== WHALEY Mailing List ==== > >> > Having problems with your subscription? Contact list administrator > at > >> > whaley-admin@rootsweb.com > >> > > >> > ============================== > >> > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in > the > >> > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > >> > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >> > >> > >> ==== WHALEY Mailing List ==== > >> To Unsubscribe from this list - send email to - > >> whaley-L-request@rootsweb.com with the single word - unsubscribe in the > >> body of the email. If you are subscribed in Digest mode use the same > >> address but change the -L- to -D-. > >> > >> ============================== > >> Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > >> Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > > Justin Whaley > > > > > > ==== WHALEY Mailing List ==== > > Wish to post from more than one address? Contact list administrator at > > whaley-admin@rootsweb.com > > > > ============================== > > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > ==== WHALEY Mailing List ==== > To Unsubscribe from this list - send email to - > whaley-L-request@rootsweb.com with the single word - unsubscribe in the > body of the email. If you are subscribed in Digest mode use the same > address but change the -L- to -D-. > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > -- Justin Whaley