Margaret, One more question: Where did you run into the Whealey spelling of Joseph's name? That's the only other time I've seen that spelling variation other than in the marriage record of MY James Whaley/Whealey in Virginia! C. On Jul 4, 2006, at 10:47 PM, margaret johnson wrote: > No I don't and it is so frustrating but keep coming up empty.... > Joseph Sr. and Jr. were both in the 1790 Iredell Co. Census - can find > no record of Sr.'s death or birth for that matter - Jr.'s will prob. > Aug 1818 in Iredell Co. NC m. to Esther Davis Dec. 20 1781 - their > daughter Violet Hannah Whaley b. 1789 m. Charles Orton - believe > someone on the list is researching Violet Whaley. > > Thank you Carolyn for taking this list on - quite an endeavor - much > appreciated! > > -Margaret > > > > > From: Carolyn Vosburg <lynvos@sbcglobal.net> > Reply-To: WHALEY-L@rootsweb.com > To: WHALEY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [WSP] Whaley Oldest Ancestor List > Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2006 18:17:19 -0500 > Margaret, > Do you have birth/death dates for Joseph??? > > C. > > > On Jul 4, 2006, at 4:24 PM, margaret johnson wrote: > >> Was on the list before but see am no longer - please add me back on >> to the list - my oldest ancestor is Joseph Whaley/Whealey Sr. - 1st >> wife unknown, 2nd wife Lidia Justice, Hance Justice Bondsman - m. 5 >> Dec. 1785 Rowan County NC. >> >> Thank you. >> >> Margaret Johnson >> >> >> >> ==== WHALEY Mailing List ==== >> Having problems with your subscription? Contact list administrator at >> whaley-admin@rootsweb.com >> >> ============================== >> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >> > > > ==== WHALEY Mailing List ==== > Wish to post from more than one address? Contact list administrator at > whaley-admin@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > > > > ==== WHALEY Mailing List ==== > Search the list archives: > http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl - put WHALEY for > the name of the list > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your > ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. > Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx? > sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 >

Carolyn Vosburg wrote: > Margaret, > > One more question: Where did you run into the Whealey spelling of > Joseph's name? That's the only other > time I've seen that spelling variation other than in the marriage record > of MY James Whaley/Whealey in Virginia! > > C. I know I don't have to tell you, Carolyn, but... we must be careful to not put too much stock in name spellings. "Correct" spelling, or expecting consistency in spelling, is a modern invention! No, seriously, there were relatively few really well-educated people back 2 and 300 years ago, most especially among those who acted as scribes - public figures who initiated records and entered names in public records of any kind. Unfortunately, this includes the parents of the child, the clergy generating records, the various government agencies... the list goes on and on. When a mother names her child, she might have a clear understanding of how that name is traditionally, or how she wants it to be spelled, but does she check any of the records and make correction if she finds an error? Look at all the functionally illiterate people we have among us in *this* enlightened age! It's scary how many there are - somehow managing to hold jobs, but I'd be willing to bet that they don't hold accurate spelling among their more important skills... In parts of England, as I have come to understand it, the double L spelling of Whalley was considered an interchangeable exercise, done on a whim... Members of the same family took it upon themselves to drop an L and from then on become known as Whaley. Or vise versa. Just because they wanted to! The uncertainty of technically (?) and traditionally correct spelling of family given and surnames ought to be part of Genealogy 101... Sometimes how a name is spelled gives one an important clue, as that to which Carolyn alludes... I'd venture that just as often it is misleading, and one should not put too much stock in it. In my humble opinion. <g> keith whaley

Carolyn, I also have a WHEALY spelling (I just figure it is a mistake by the census taker). ----------------------- 1850 US Census, Franklin County, TN, District #3, Page 23 Edward WHEALEY, 23 M, Labourer, Unknown place of birth (later he is listed as b in TN) (along with wife Mary and daughter Catherine) ----------------- Debbie V. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carolyn Vosburg" <lynvos@sbcglobal.net> To: <WHALEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 12:34 AM Subject: [WSP] Joseph Whaley/Whealey of Iredell Co, NC > Margaret, > > One more question: Where did you run into the Whealey spelling of > Joseph's name? That's the only other > time I've seen that spelling variation other than in the marriage record > of MY James Whaley/Whealey in Virginia! > > C. > > > On Jul 4, 2006, at 10:47 PM, margaret johnson wrote: > >> No I don't and it is so frustrating but keep coming up empty.... Joseph >> Sr. and Jr. were both in the 1790 Iredell Co. Census - can find no >> record of Sr.'s death or birth for that matter - Jr.'s will prob. Aug >> 1818 in Iredell Co. NC m. to Esther Davis Dec. 20 1781 - their daughter >> Violet Hannah Whaley b. 1789 m. Charles Orton - believe someone on the >> list is researching Violet Whaley. >> >> Thank you Carolyn for taking this list on - quite an endeavor - much >> appreciated! >> >> -Margaret >> >> >> >> >> From: Carolyn Vosburg <lynvos@sbcglobal.net> >> Reply-To: WHALEY-L@rootsweb.com >> To: WHALEY-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [WSP] Whaley Oldest Ancestor List >> Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2006 18:17:19 -0500 >> Margaret, >> Do you have birth/death dates for Joseph??? >> >> C. >> >> >> On Jul 4, 2006, at 4:24 PM, margaret johnson wrote: >> >>> Was on the list before but see am no longer - please add me back on to >>> the list - my oldest ancestor is Joseph Whaley/Whealey Sr. - 1st wife >>> unknown, 2nd wife Lidia Justice, Hance Justice Bondsman - m. 5 Dec. >>> 1785 Rowan County NC. >>> >>> Thank you. >>> >>> Margaret Johnson >>> >>> >>> >>> ==== WHALEY Mailing List ==== >>> Having problems with your subscription? Contact list administrator at >>> whaley-admin@rootsweb.com >>> >>> ============================== >>> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >>> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >>> http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >>> >> >> >> ==== WHALEY Mailing List ==== >> Wish to post from more than one address? Contact list administrator at >> whaley-admin@rootsweb.com >> >> ============================== >> Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. >> New content added every business day. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx >> >> >> >> ==== WHALEY Mailing List ==== >> Search the list archives: >> http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl - put WHALEY for >> the name of the list >> >> ============================== >> New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your >> ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. >> Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx? >> sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 >> > > > ==== WHALEY Mailing List ==== > To Unsubscribe from this list - send email to - > whaley-L-request@rootsweb.com with the single word - unsubscribe in the > body of the email. If you are subscribed in Digest mode use the same > address but change the -L- to -D-. > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429