Bob, I don't know about your final interpretation, but W-3 should be Richard W Whaley (the person tested), the son of Marcus W Whaley whose oldest ancester is John Whaley. Linda Whaley Boehme -----Original Message----- From: whaley-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:whaley-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Hart, Bob - Global IT Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 3:28 PM To: whaley@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WHALEY] DNA Interest List Greetings- I would like to be sure I am interpreting the DNA results correctly. The descendant postings on FamilyTreeDNA under the Whaley surname are here: http://worldfamilies.net/surnames/w/whaley/pats.html The actual Y-test results are here: http://worldfamilies.net/surnames/w/whaley/results.html The first page seems to show that Y-results have been posted for three people: W-1 is not labeled, so I'm not sure who was tested, but his ancestor was James Whaley, Sr. W-2 looks like Charles M. Whaley was the person tested, and his ancestor was George Powell Whaley, Sr. W-3 looks like Marcus Wright Whaley was the person tested, and his ancestor was John Whaley. The Y-test results page shows the actual markers for persons W-1, W-2, and W-3. I counted the differences in the first 12 columns to get the 12-marker genetic distance for each pair per the instructions at: http://www.ysearch.org/help.asp?uid I get total differences using 12 markers of 7, 12, and 15. According to the instructions for interpreting a 12-market test, these Whaleys all have a most recent common ancestor thousands of years back, so each of these three is completely unrelated to the others. Is this the correct interpretation of the results? -Bob -----Original Message----- From: whaley-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:whaley-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 4:34 PM To: whaley@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WHALEY] DNA Interest List Issac Whaley, Can you post your DNA results on Family Tree DNA? If you need help, I will be glad to offer. Mike Whaley ----- Original Message ----- From: "Justin Whaley" <xypher9@gmail.com> To: <whaley@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 2:00 PM Subject: Re: [WHALEY] DNA Interest List > ***UPDATED*** > > The list of those itnerested in compiling and comparing DNA of the > numerous branches of the Whaley surname. > > Justin Whaley > Isaac Whaley -DTC > Linda Boehme -DTC (Richard W. Whaley) > Beverly Graham -NMS > Donald Whaley > Paul Whaley II > Roger Whaley > Mike Whaley -DTC > Gene Whaley > Adele Walenciak -NMS > John Whaley > > KEY: DTC= DNA Test Completed > NMS= Needs Male Source > > On 11/29/06, Justin Whaley <xypher9@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Let me go into a bit more detail. >> >> The list is for those who are interested in getting the Y-DNA37 test >> done. >> >> You will be responsible for the cost of getting your DNA test. If you >> cant >> afford it maybe we can come up with a way to make it affordable. >> >> Once we have a diverse enough sampling of DNA for the Whaley surname. >> Meaning at least one sample from some of the major branches of the Whaley >> surname me and anyone else who wishes to donate thier time will begin to >> look at how each of the families coorilate. >> >> This will be done by looking at how each family relates and this is told >> to us by the DNA lab we send our DNA into. >> >> We then use those coorilations to find out where we all branched out >> along the way. >> >> Once we begin to figure that out maybe some gaps and holes in some family >> line can be filled in by other lines with common descent. >> >> The possibilites and benefits are endless and I am a bit busy so I will >> not go into everything as of yet. >> >> >> On 11/29/06, Justin Whaley <xypher9@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> > Sorry if I led to confusion This list is for people interested in just >> > getting the test done. After you get the test done the company doing >> > the >> > testing compares the DNA to others in your DNA Project telling you who >> > is >> > related and how..... >> > >> > On 11/29/06, keith_w < keith_w@dslextreme.com> wrote: >> > > >> > > Justin Whaley wrote: >> > > > The list of those itnerested in compiling and comparing DNA of the >> > > numerous >> > > > branches of the Whaley surname. >> > > > >> > > > Justin Whaley >> > > > Isaac Whaley -DTC >> > > > Linda Boehme -NMS >> > > > Beverly Graham -NMS >> > > > Donald Whaley >> > > > Paul Whaley II >> > > > Roger Whaley >> > > > Mike Whaley -DTC >> > > > Gene Whaley >> > > > Adele Walenciak >> > > > >> > > > KEY: DTC= DNA Test Completed >> > > > NMS= Needs Male Source >> > > >> > > Uhhh, hold on here, Justin. >> > > You seem to be pretty fond of the word "compiling." >> > > Now you've just added it to another word, "comparing" which lends a >> > > new >> > > dimension to the task at hand. >> > > >> > > Compiling is merely drawing up a list, for some purpose. Plenty easy. >> > > >> > > Comparing means what? Comparing the DNA data you get back to someone >> > > else's DNA results? >> > > How does one do that? *I* can't do that! >> > > There are experts that are paid well to do that, not so? >> > > So why do you say those who are mentioned on this "DNA Interest List" >> > > are those who have agreed to "...compile and compare DNA of the >> > > various branches of the Whaley family." >> > > No. Not me. I know only what DNA is, generally speaking. >> > > I wouldn't have a clue as to how to perform any comparison >> > > analyses... >> > > >> > > That's for that expert of which I spoke. >> > > >> > > The DNA test will cost some specified amount, and that's only the >> > > beginning. >> > > Now you have to add the cost of whomever it is that will actually do >> > > the >> > > work of comparing all the individual DNA data that's gathered to each >> > > and every OTHER one. Not so? Otherwise, what good is it for anyone to >> > > have their DNA data extracted and recorded? >> > > >> > > Have you established what the work flow will be, and who the workers >> > > will be? And the ultimate cost of comparing the various DNA sample >> > > data >> > > to those on the list? >> > > >> > > In submitting my name to this compilation of yours, I merely agreed >> > > it >> > > would be a good idea, and said, "Sure. Count me in as a person >> > > interested in donationg his DNA for testing." >> > > Nothing else. >> > > >> > > So...who IS going to do the work, and what will it end up costing us? >> > > Who will be doing the sorting and mailing and emailing and performing >> > > the detailed comparisons required? >> > > >> > > Not me. I'm just a source. >> > > You or your assignee will be doing all the stuff in the above >> > > paragraph, for some to-be-agreed-upon fee. >> > > >> > > Once I know that, perhaps we can proceed. Not before that. >> > > >> > > Lots of clarification and elaboration needed. >> > > This nucleus must be expanded into a workable plan. >> > > >> > > * * * >> > > >> > > In the meanwhile, I'd almost forgotten about the "other" DNA >> > > comparison site Mike Whaley mentioned, at: >> > > >> > > http://worldfamilies.net/surnames/w/whaley/. >> > > >> > > I think I'll slip over and take a look at it again. That site is >> > > supposed to have already been established. If so, why start another? >> > > >> > > Later, >> > > >> > > keith whaley >> > > From Charles (Dale, N.Y.), Steven, Lucius Daniel, William Howard, Don >> > > Lucius (my dad.) >> > > >> > > ------------------------------- >> > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > > WHALEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Justin Whaley >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Justin Whaley >> > > > > -- > Justin Whaley > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WHALEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WHALEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WHALEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message