Issac Whaley, Can you post your DNA results on Family Tree DNA? If you need help, I will be glad to offer. Mike Whaley ----- Original Message ----- From: "Justin Whaley" <xypher9@gmail.com> To: <whaley@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 2:00 PM Subject: Re: [WHALEY] DNA Interest List > ***UPDATED*** > > The list of those itnerested in compiling and comparing DNA of the > numerous > branches of the Whaley surname. > > Justin Whaley > Isaac Whaley -DTC > Linda Boehme -DTC (Richard W. Whaley) > Beverly Graham -NMS > Donald Whaley > Paul Whaley II > Roger Whaley > Mike Whaley -DTC > Gene Whaley > Adele Walenciak -NMS > John Whaley > > KEY: DTC= DNA Test Completed > NMS= Needs Male Source > > On 11/29/06, Justin Whaley <xypher9@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Let me go into a bit more detail. >> >> The list is for those who are interested in getting the Y-DNA37 test >> done. >> >> You will be responsible for the cost of getting your DNA test. If you >> cant >> afford it maybe we can come up with a way to make it affordable. >> >> Once we have a diverse enough sampling of DNA for the Whaley surname. >> Meaning at least one sample from some of the major branches of the Whaley >> surname me and anyone else who wishes to donate thier time will begin to >> look at how each of the families coorilate. >> >> This will be done by looking at how each family relates and this is told >> to us by the DNA lab we send our DNA into. >> >> We then use those coorilations to find out where we all branched out >> along >> the way. >> >> Once we begin to figure that out maybe some gaps and holes in some family >> line can be filled in by other lines with common descent. >> >> The possibilites and benefits are endless and I am a bit busy so I will >> not go into everything as of yet. >> >> >> On 11/29/06, Justin Whaley <xypher9@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> > Sorry if I led to confusion This list is for people interested in just >> > getting the test done. After you get the test done the company doing >> > the >> > testing compares the DNA to others in your DNA Project telling you who >> > is >> > related and how..... >> > >> > On 11/29/06, keith_w < keith_w@dslextreme.com> wrote: >> > > >> > > Justin Whaley wrote: >> > > > The list of those itnerested in compiling and comparing DNA of the >> > > numerous >> > > > branches of the Whaley surname. >> > > > >> > > > Justin Whaley >> > > > Isaac Whaley -DTC >> > > > Linda Boehme -NMS >> > > > Beverly Graham -NMS >> > > > Donald Whaley >> > > > Paul Whaley II >> > > > Roger Whaley >> > > > Mike Whaley -DTC >> > > > Gene Whaley >> > > > Adele Walenciak >> > > > >> > > > KEY: DTC= DNA Test Completed >> > > > NMS= Needs Male Source >> > > >> > > Uhhh, hold on here, Justin. >> > > You seem to be pretty fond of the word "compiling." >> > > Now you've just added it to another word, "comparing" which lends a >> > > new >> > > dimension to the task at hand. >> > > >> > > Compiling is merely drawing up a list, for some purpose. Plenty easy. >> > > >> > > Comparing means what? Comparing the DNA data you get back to someone >> > > else's DNA results? >> > > How does one do that? *I* can't do that! >> > > There are experts that are paid well to do that, not so? >> > > So why do you say those who are mentioned on this "DNA Interest List" >> > > are those who have agreed to "...compile and compare DNA of the >> > > various >> > > branches of the Whaley family." >> > > No. Not me. I know only what DNA is, generally speaking. >> > > I wouldn't have a clue as to how to perform any comparison >> > > analyses... >> > > >> > > That's for that expert of which I spoke. >> > > >> > > The DNA test will cost some specified amount, and that's only the >> > > beginning. >> > > Now you have to add the cost of whomever it is that will actually do >> > > the >> > > work of comparing all the individual DNA data that's gathered to each >> > > and every OTHER one. Not so? Otherwise, what good is it for anyone to >> > > have their DNA data extracted and recorded? >> > > >> > > Have you established what the work flow will be, and who the workers >> > > will be? And the ultimate cost of comparing the various DNA sample >> > > data >> > > to those on the list? >> > > >> > > In submitting my name to this compilation of yours, I merely agreed >> > > it >> > > would be a good idea, and said, "Sure. Count me in as a person >> > > interested in donationg his DNA for testing." >> > > Nothing else. >> > > >> > > So...who IS going to do the work, and what will it end up costing us? >> > > Who will be doing the sorting and mailing and emailing and performing >> > > the detailed comparisons required? >> > > >> > > Not me. I'm just a source. >> > > You or your assignee will be doing all the stuff in the above >> > > paragraph, >> > > for some to-be-agreed-upon fee. >> > > >> > > Once I know that, perhaps we can proceed. Not before that. >> > > >> > > Lots of clarification and elaboration needed. >> > > This nucleus must be expanded into a workable plan. >> > > >> > > * * * >> > > >> > > In the meanwhile, I'd almost forgotten about the "other" DNA >> > > comparison >> > > site Mike Whaley mentioned, at: >> > > >> > > http://worldfamilies.net/surnames/w/whaley/. >> > > >> > > I think I'll slip over and take a look at it again. That site is >> > > supposed to have already been established. If so, why start another? >> > > >> > > Later, >> > > >> > > keith whaley >> > > From Charles (Dale, N.Y.), Steven, Lucius Daniel, William Howard, Don >> > > Lucius (my dad.) >> > > >> > > ------------------------------- >> > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > > WHALEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Justin Whaley >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Justin Whaley >> > > > > -- > Justin Whaley > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WHALEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Greetings- I would like to be sure I am interpreting the DNA results correctly. The descendant postings on FamilyTreeDNA under the Whaley surname are here: http://worldfamilies.net/surnames/w/whaley/pats.html The actual Y-test results are here: http://worldfamilies.net/surnames/w/whaley/results.html The first page seems to show that Y-results have been posted for three people: W-1 is not labeled, so I'm not sure who was tested, but his ancestor was James Whaley, Sr. W-2 looks like Charles M. Whaley was the person tested, and his ancestor was George Powell Whaley, Sr. W-3 looks like Marcus Wright Whaley was the person tested, and his ancestor was John Whaley. The Y-test results page shows the actual markers for persons W-1, W-2, and W-3. I counted the differences in the first 12 columns to get the 12-marker genetic distance for each pair per the instructions at: http://www.ysearch.org/help.asp?uid I get total differences using 12 markers of 7, 12, and 15. According to the instructions for interpreting a 12-market test, these Whaleys all have a most recent common ancestor thousands of years back, so each of these three is completely unrelated to the others. Is this the correct interpretation of the results? -Bob -----Original Message----- From: whaley-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:whaley-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 4:34 PM To: whaley@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WHALEY] DNA Interest List Issac Whaley, Can you post your DNA results on Family Tree DNA? If you need help, I will be glad to offer. Mike Whaley ----- Original Message ----- From: "Justin Whaley" <xypher9@gmail.com> To: <whaley@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 2:00 PM Subject: Re: [WHALEY] DNA Interest List > ***UPDATED*** > > The list of those itnerested in compiling and comparing DNA of the > numerous > branches of the Whaley surname. > > Justin Whaley > Isaac Whaley -DTC > Linda Boehme -DTC (Richard W. Whaley) > Beverly Graham -NMS > Donald Whaley > Paul Whaley II > Roger Whaley > Mike Whaley -DTC > Gene Whaley > Adele Walenciak -NMS > John Whaley > > KEY: DTC= DNA Test Completed > NMS= Needs Male Source > > On 11/29/06, Justin Whaley <xypher9@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Let me go into a bit more detail. >> >> The list is for those who are interested in getting the Y-DNA37 test >> done. >> >> You will be responsible for the cost of getting your DNA test. If you >> cant >> afford it maybe we can come up with a way to make it affordable. >> >> Once we have a diverse enough sampling of DNA for the Whaley surname. >> Meaning at least one sample from some of the major branches of the Whaley >> surname me and anyone else who wishes to donate thier time will begin to >> look at how each of the families coorilate. >> >> This will be done by looking at how each family relates and this is told >> to us by the DNA lab we send our DNA into. >> >> We then use those coorilations to find out where we all branched out >> along >> the way. >> >> Once we begin to figure that out maybe some gaps and holes in some family >> line can be filled in by other lines with common descent. >> >> The possibilites and benefits are endless and I am a bit busy so I will >> not go into everything as of yet. >> >> >> On 11/29/06, Justin Whaley <xypher9@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> > Sorry if I led to confusion This list is for people interested in just >> > getting the test done. After you get the test done the company doing >> > the >> > testing compares the DNA to others in your DNA Project telling you who >> > is >> > related and how..... >> > >> > On 11/29/06, keith_w < keith_w@dslextreme.com> wrote: >> > > >> > > Justin Whaley wrote: >> > > > The list of those itnerested in compiling and comparing DNA of the >> > > numerous >> > > > branches of the Whaley surname. >> > > > >> > > > Justin Whaley >> > > > Isaac Whaley -DTC >> > > > Linda Boehme -NMS >> > > > Beverly Graham -NMS >> > > > Donald Whaley >> > > > Paul Whaley II >> > > > Roger Whaley >> > > > Mike Whaley -DTC >> > > > Gene Whaley >> > > > Adele Walenciak >> > > > >> > > > KEY: DTC= DNA Test Completed >> > > > NMS= Needs Male Source >> > > >> > > Uhhh, hold on here, Justin. >> > > You seem to be pretty fond of the word "compiling." >> > > Now you've just added it to another word, "comparing" which lends a >> > > new >> > > dimension to the task at hand. >> > > >> > > Compiling is merely drawing up a list, for some purpose. Plenty easy. >> > > >> > > Comparing means what? Comparing the DNA data you get back to someone >> > > else's DNA results? >> > > How does one do that? *I* can't do that! >> > > There are experts that are paid well to do that, not so? >> > > So why do you say those who are mentioned on this "DNA Interest List" >> > > are those who have agreed to "...compile and compare DNA of the >> > > various >> > > branches of the Whaley family." >> > > No. Not me. I know only what DNA is, generally speaking. >> > > I wouldn't have a clue as to how to perform any comparison >> > > analyses... >> > > >> > > That's for that expert of which I spoke. >> > > >> > > The DNA test will cost some specified amount, and that's only the >> > > beginning. >> > > Now you have to add the cost of whomever it is that will actually do >> > > the >> > > work of comparing all the individual DNA data that's gathered to each >> > > and every OTHER one. Not so? Otherwise, what good is it for anyone to >> > > have their DNA data extracted and recorded? >> > > >> > > Have you established what the work flow will be, and who the workers >> > > will be? And the ultimate cost of comparing the various DNA sample >> > > data >> > > to those on the list? >> > > >> > > In submitting my name to this compilation of yours, I merely agreed >> > > it >> > > would be a good idea, and said, "Sure. Count me in as a person >> > > interested in donationg his DNA for testing." >> > > Nothing else. >> > > >> > > So...who IS going to do the work, and what will it end up costing us? >> > > Who will be doing the sorting and mailing and emailing and performing >> > > the detailed comparisons required? >> > > >> > > Not me. I'm just a source. >> > > You or your assignee will be doing all the stuff in the above >> > > paragraph, >> > > for some to-be-agreed-upon fee. >> > > >> > > Once I know that, perhaps we can proceed. Not before that. >> > > >> > > Lots of clarification and elaboration needed. >> > > This nucleus must be expanded into a workable plan. >> > > >> > > * * * >> > > >> > > In the meanwhile, I'd almost forgotten about the "other" DNA >> > > comparison >> > > site Mike Whaley mentioned, at: >> > > >> > > http://worldfamilies.net/surnames/w/whaley/. >> > > >> > > I think I'll slip over and take a look at it again. That site is >> > > supposed to have already been established. If so, why start another? >> > > >> > > Later, >> > > >> > > keith whaley >> > > From Charles (Dale, N.Y.), Steven, Lucius Daniel, William Howard, Don >> > > Lucius (my dad.) >> > > >> > > ------------------------------- >> > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > > WHALEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Justin Whaley >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Justin Whaley >> > > > > -- > Justin Whaley > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WHALEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WHALEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Once your DNA is tested. Family Tree DNA sends you the results and post them on Whaley DNA Project. Once you upload them to ysearch.org (All this is explained on the FamilyTreeDNA website) you can do a comparison with your login ID to the rest of the world! Not just other Whaley's. I do not get one red cent or kick backs from any group for this. I just happened to be the second person to ask for a DNA test and to be added to the Whaley Surname Project and Whaley DNA Project. This endeavor is to try and make connections where the paper trail falls short. As far as the logistics for analyzing all the data and who will be responsible; The good people at Family Tree DNA and Ysearch.org are extremely helpful in every aspect of DNA analysis. The laymen are not expected to know how to interpret the results. That is what you pay the lab to do. The more comprehensive the test, the better the data yielded. Please understand that I have no vested interest in getting people to have their DNA tested other than to see how our branches tie together or not. Respectfully, Mike Whaley ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hart, Bob - Global IT" <hart_bob@bah.com> To: <whaley@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 6:27 PM Subject: Re: [WHALEY] DNA Interest List > Greetings- > > I would like to be sure I am interpreting the DNA results > correctly. > > The descendant postings on FamilyTreeDNA under the Whaley > surname are here: http://worldfamilies.net/surnames/w/whaley/pats.html > > The actual Y-test results are here: > http://worldfamilies.net/surnames/w/whaley/results.html > > The first page seems to show that Y-results have been posted for > three people: > W-1 is not labeled, so I'm not sure who was tested, but > his ancestor was James Whaley, Sr. > W-2 looks like Charles M. Whaley was the person tested, > and his ancestor was George Powell Whaley, Sr. > W-3 looks like Marcus Wright Whaley was the person > tested, and his ancestor was John Whaley. > > The Y-test results page shows the actual markers for persons > W-1, W-2, and W-3. I counted the differences in the first 12 columns to > get the 12-marker genetic distance for each pair per the instructions > at: http://www.ysearch.org/help.asp?uid > > I get total differences using 12 markers of 7, 12, and 15. > According to the instructions for interpreting a 12-market test, these > Whaleys all have a most recent common ancestor thousands of years back, > so each of these three is completely unrelated to the others. > > Is this the correct interpretation of the results? > > -Bob > > -----Original Message----- > From: whaley-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:whaley-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Mike > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 4:34 PM > To: whaley@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [WHALEY] DNA Interest List > > Issac Whaley, > > Can you post your DNA results on Family Tree DNA? If you need help, I > will be glad to offer. > > Mike Whaley > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Justin Whaley" <xypher9@gmail.com> > To: <whaley@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 2:00 PM > Subject: Re: [WHALEY] DNA Interest List > > >> ***UPDATED*** >> >> The list of those itnerested in compiling and comparing DNA of the >> numerous >> branches of the Whaley surname. >> >> Justin Whaley >> Isaac Whaley -DTC >> Linda Boehme -DTC (Richard W. Whaley) >> Beverly Graham -NMS >> Donald Whaley >> Paul Whaley II >> Roger Whaley >> Mike Whaley -DTC >> Gene Whaley >> Adele Walenciak -NMS >> John Whaley >> >> KEY: DTC= DNA Test Completed >> NMS= Needs Male Source >> >> On 11/29/06, Justin Whaley <xypher9@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Let me go into a bit more detail. >>> >>> The list is for those who are interested in getting the Y-DNA37 test >>> done. >>> >>> You will be responsible for the cost of getting your DNA test. If you > >>> cant >>> afford it maybe we can come up with a way to make it affordable. >>> >>> Once we have a diverse enough sampling of DNA for the Whaley surname. >>> Meaning at least one sample from some of the major branches of the > Whaley >>> surname me and anyone else who wishes to donate thier time will begin > to >>> look at how each of the families coorilate. >>> >>> This will be done by looking at how each family relates and this is > told >>> to us by the DNA lab we send our DNA into. >>> >>> We then use those coorilations to find out where we all branched out >>> along >>> the way. >>> >>> Once we begin to figure that out maybe some gaps and holes in some > family >>> line can be filled in by other lines with common descent. >>> >>> The possibilites and benefits are endless and I am a bit busy so I > will >>> not go into everything as of yet. >>> >>> >>> On 11/29/06, Justin Whaley <xypher9@gmail.com> wrote: >>> > >>> > Sorry if I led to confusion This list is for people interested in > just >>> > getting the test done. After you get the test done the company > doing >>> > the >>> > testing compares the DNA to others in your DNA Project telling you > who >>> > is >>> > related and how..... >>> > >>> > On 11/29/06, keith_w < keith_w@dslextreme.com> wrote: >>> > > >>> > > Justin Whaley wrote: >>> > > > The list of those itnerested in compiling and comparing DNA of > the >>> > > numerous >>> > > > branches of the Whaley surname. >>> > > > >>> > > > Justin Whaley >>> > > > Isaac Whaley -DTC >>> > > > Linda Boehme -NMS >>> > > > Beverly Graham -NMS >>> > > > Donald Whaley >>> > > > Paul Whaley II >>> > > > Roger Whaley >>> > > > Mike Whaley -DTC >>> > > > Gene Whaley >>> > > > Adele Walenciak >>> > > > >>> > > > KEY: DTC= DNA Test Completed >>> > > > NMS= Needs Male Source >>> > > >>> > > Uhhh, hold on here, Justin. >>> > > You seem to be pretty fond of the word "compiling." >>> > > Now you've just added it to another word, "comparing" which lends > a >>> > > new >>> > > dimension to the task at hand. >>> > > >>> > > Compiling is merely drawing up a list, for some purpose. Plenty > easy. >>> > > >>> > > Comparing means what? Comparing the DNA data you get back to > someone >>> > > else's DNA results? >>> > > How does one do that? *I* can't do that! >>> > > There are experts that are paid well to do that, not so? >>> > > So why do you say those who are mentioned on this "DNA Interest > List" >>> > > are those who have agreed to "...compile and compare DNA of the >>> > > various >>> > > branches of the Whaley family." >>> > > No. Not me. I know only what DNA is, generally speaking. >>> > > I wouldn't have a clue as to how to perform any comparison >>> > > analyses... >>> > > >>> > > That's for that expert of which I spoke. >>> > > >>> > > The DNA test will cost some specified amount, and that's only the >>> > > beginning. >>> > > Now you have to add the cost of whomever it is that will actually > do >>> > > the >>> > > work of comparing all the individual DNA data that's gathered to > each >>> > > and every OTHER one. Not so? Otherwise, what good is it for > anyone to >>> > > have their DNA data extracted and recorded? >>> > > >>> > > Have you established what the work flow will be, and who the > workers >>> > > will be? And the ultimate cost of comparing the various DNA > sample >>> > > data >>> > > to those on the list? >>> > > >>> > > In submitting my name to this compilation of yours, I merely > agreed >>> > > it >>> > > would be a good idea, and said, "Sure. Count me in as a person >>> > > interested in donationg his DNA for testing." >>> > > Nothing else. >>> > > >>> > > So...who IS going to do the work, and what will it end up costing > us? >>> > > Who will be doing the sorting and mailing and emailing and > performing >>> > > the detailed comparisons required? >>> > > >>> > > Not me. I'm just a source. >>> > > You or your assignee will be doing all the stuff in the above >>> > > paragraph, >>> > > for some to-be-agreed-upon fee. >>> > > >>> > > Once I know that, perhaps we can proceed. Not before that. >>> > > >>> > > Lots of clarification and elaboration needed. >>> > > This nucleus must be expanded into a workable plan. >>> > > >>> > > * * * >>> > > >>> > > In the meanwhile, I'd almost forgotten about the "other" DNA >>> > > comparison >>> > > site Mike Whaley mentioned, at: >>> > > >>> > > http://worldfamilies.net/surnames/w/whaley/. >>> > > >>> > > I think I'll slip over and take a look at it again. That site is >>> > > supposed to have already been established. If so, why start > another? >>> > > >>> > > Later, >>> > > >>> > > keith whaley >>> > > From Charles (Dale, N.Y.), Steven, Lucius Daniel, William Howard, > Don >>> > > Lucius (my dad.) >>> > > >>> > > ------------------------------- >>> > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> > > WHALEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the >>> > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> > > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > -- >>> > Justin Whaley >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Justin Whaley >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Justin Whaley >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> WHALEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WHALEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WHALEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message