My name is Michael Whaley. I am a direct descendant of the original SC Whaley's and have been asked to head up the Whaley Family DNA Project. My family lore says we came from the Edisto SC Whaley's, who have proof of their lineage back to Edward Wale of MD. I was hoping to find a contact person for the TN Whaley's that can point me in the direction of a male descendant of Alexander b.1748 or William M. b.1788 who is willing to have a 37 marker DNA test. I have a male Whaley from Edisto SC willing to test their DNA. I have had a DNA test done. My results are posted on worldfamilies.net/surnames/w/whaley . The reason I find all this fascinating is our family names are so unique to the Whaley's in TN, SC and MD. William, Middleton, Thomas, George and John all run through our families. Common names, however, I had a great uncle named Atticus Alonzo and Alexander (TN) name his son William Alonzo. The birth date of Alexander or John Alexander is comparable to that of my oldest ancestor John Whaley b. ca 1750? SC who fathered George P.Whaley Sr b. ca.1775 in SC. My guess is they were brothers or Alexander was John. John is listed on the 1790 census in SC but not on the 1800 census. Also John is listed as having 2 sons and 3 daughters under 16 on the 1790 census but George P. Whaley Sr. is the only ancestor for which we have records. He is listed on the 1800 SC census. Another interesting fact; William M. Whaley b 1801 in SC was the first son of George Powell Sr. William's son, William A. Whaley b. 1833 went to TN and died there. DNA testing will provide scientific data and either coroborate or eliminate these family legends. I hope we can at least resolve the TN, SC, MD connection. Mike Whaley Whaley Family DNA Project Admin ----- Original Message ----- From: <RLNSD@aol.com> To: <Whaley@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 12:00 AM Subject: [WHALEY] Messages from 1998 re Alexander and Leverich > Here are some messages from the 1998 Digest, #54 > Maybe it will shed some light on where the confusion began. > _____________________________________________ > > Whaley Digest V98 #54 1 Apr 1998 > Msg. #1-Alexander and Abigail Leverich--From Weeden's notes > > " I recently received an alphabetical list of WSP Members with their > ancestral data from Lyn and also an alphabetical list of Oldest Ancestors > with a list of the descendants of each from George. I noticed that some > of the TN Whaleys list Alexander Whaley and Abigail Leverich as the > parents of Middleton Whaley or William M. Whaley. In David L. > Beckwith's note to Deb Mayes in June 1997 he tells her that there is > no connection between their Middleton Whaley and Alexander and > Abigail. I agree and am puzzled as to the source for the TN Whaley > descendants using this connection. It it in "Smoky Mountain Clans" by > Donald B. Reagan or where? > > Alexander was b in CT and Abigail in NY and their 9 children William L., > David, James, Elizabeth, Sarah L., John, Francis, Thomas and Alexander > were > all born in NY between 1774 and 1791. Alexander died in NY. Data on this > family will be found in Rev. Samuel Whaley's book "The Whaley Family" and > also "The Whaley House" and "Consignments to El Dorado" by June A. > Reading. > Alexander is mentioned in the DAR Patriot Index showing his Revolutionary > War > service from NY. #143264 material entered by descendant Clara Heiss > Brandenburg notes that Alexander was a member of the Boston Tea Party and > assisted in throwing the tea overboard!! The Abstract of his Will located > by > Suejp and his obituary verify the family data given above. > > For what it is worth, there was also an Alexander Whaley born between 1790 > and > 1800 in TN or SC. He served in the War of 1812 from TN and married Ruth > McAnally 9-10-1812 in Roane Co TN. They moved to Blount Co AL. Alexander > left his famiy in AL and moved to Poinsett Co AR. In 1850 he was listed > there with a 36 year old Margaret and 6 children born between c. 1834 and > 1850. > The oldest of these children of his second family was named Middleton B. > There seems to be some similarities here. There are also several WSPers > listed under this Alexander who married Ruth McAnally. > > Someone has asked where the name Middleton comes from. As I recall, > Edward > the Regicide married Mary Middleton as his second wife." JW > _________________________ > Msg #2 Apr 1998 > Alexander Whaley & Abigail Leverich--David L. Beckwith > The source of the connection with the Sevier County TN Whaleys was "Sevier > County, Tennessee and its Heritage" 1994, p. 200 submitted by Aileen > Whaley > Fowler. I then included this in my web page (http://www.smokykin.com/) > After other evidence tended to disprove the connection, I personally > phoned > Mrs. Fowler. > She gave as her source stories her grandfather (George Bradford Whaley > 1838-1914) told her. In an attempt to explain the connection between the > New > York Whaley she said this Alexander traveled extensively as part of his > occupation. She said her grandfather said they descended from the > Regicide. > She said our proven progenitor (William M. Whaley 1786-1880) had a brother > named Middleton after the regicide's mother's maiden name. > Mrs. Fowler was passionately offended by those who doubted her story and I > feel uncomfortable sharing this as she did confide what she knew to me. > The > Middleton connection may have some credence, but she was unable to give me > enough evidence that I feel indicate a connection to this Alexander. I > think > her grandfather did tell her stories on her ancestrry; unfortunately, I am > unable to corroborate his stories with any facts. In fact, most facts > tend > to disprove the connection. > > I even have doubts that William M. Whaley's father is named Alexander. I > can't find any primary source indicating his name. One researcher > indicates > it may be John Alexander Whaley, however, I have not seen her sources. > The > only evidence I have on his parents are the 1850 mortality list which > lists > their birth place as South Carolina. Does anyone have any evidence to > share > here? > > The Alabama Alexander you mention is too young to be the Sevier County, TN > ancestor since he was born after William M. Whaley. The Middleton son > tends > to indicate a connection could be possible. > > I've been a little lazy at not notifying Lyn and George to change my > progenitor to William M. and Mary (Ogle) Whaley. Does anyone else have > anything to add? > David L. Beckwith > _________________________________________ > Msg #3 1 Apr 1998 > RE: Alexander Whaley and Abigail Leverich by LynVos > David Beckwith and Others: > Don't feel badly about stories told from generation to generation later > being > found out to be just that--stories! People in my family have for years > said > that my g-g-g-grandfather Edward Whaley was named for Lord Edw. Whaley, > cousin of Oliver Cromwell, and that 'fact' has been printed in many Marion > Co. MO histories, As yet, I've not found anything to prove it.! > Lyn > _________________________________________ > Msg #4 0 Apr 1998 > Re: Alexander Whaley and Abigail Leverich by George Whaley > Hi David, > I've changed your progenitor (what a neat word) . Is there anyone else > who needs to be moved? I would rather not move anyone without their > concurrence. Let me know. It only takes a couple of seconds to make > the move and it may keep someone from going down the wrong branch in the > future. BTW please remember my list probably has at least a dozen more > errors. Its only purpose is to get cousins talking to each other. > _______________________________________ > Msg #5 2 Apr 1998 > Kentucky Biographies by George Whaley > > The following site has several biographies mentioning Whaley and one > biography devoted to a James Whaley. > > http://www.starbase21.com/kybiog/ > George > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > - > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > - > Dec. 11-06 > David Beckwith said back then that he was taking the erroneous material > out of his web (http://smokykin.com/). I checked the web tonight and > he still has that Alexander and Abigail are the parents of William M. > So how do you get rid of that erroneous material???? 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