I was born in Staffordshire, England, and there my name was always pronounced 'Wally', like the first name which is common in the USA but not very common here. In fact, I have seen the name written in censuses as 'Wolley', presumably after being spoken to an enumerator by an illiterate person. When I chased my family tree to Cheshire, I found that there in the early 1800s my family spelled their names 'Walley', without and 'h', and they were not illiterate. The 'h' was added later, probably to 'poshify' it. I have never visited the village of Whalley in Lancashire (shame!), but I'm told by people who come from around there that in those parts it is pronouned with the long 'a' - Wall - ee. In colloquial English, the term 'wally' denotes an inadequate or stupid person. Therefore I have changed the way I pronounce my name from wally to wall-ee. I hasten to add that I did this only because of the ragging my son received at school over his name; so when he changed schools it was natural to get over the problem by simply saying it differently! Incidentally, there are far more Whalleys in England than any other spelling. Walley is the next most popular, with Whaley a distant third. Frank Whalley Penarth, nr Cardiff, Wales, UK ----Original Message Follows---- From: cw1210@aol.com Reply-To: WHALEY-L@rootsweb.com To: WHALEY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [WSP] Whaley vs Whalley Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2006 08:01:14 -0400 I've never paid too close attention to the spelling of names. Some of my Dad's brothers use Burnette and some use Burnett. Some spell their mother's maiden name Fogel and some spell it Fogle. Other than making for some difficult times at the funeral homes it's never seemed to make much difference. I did find it interesting though...... My husband and I visited Whalley, England a few years ago. I had met someone over the internet and arranged to have her meet us at the train station. We never turned around as she ran along behind us calling, "Wally, Wally? Are you Wally?" It had never occurred to me that the pronunciation would be different there. i.e. Wall ee instead of Whale ee Connie Whaley ________________________________________________________________________ Check out AOL.com today. Breaking news, video search, pictures, email and IM. All on demand. Always Free. ==== WHALEY Mailing List ==== Having problems with your subscription? Contact list administrator at whaley-admin@rootsweb.com ============================== Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx

This is very interesting to me, Frank, because I have a "brick wall" in my Whaley research. It gives new incentive to look into other spellings, though of course I already have as much as I had thought possible. But the "o" is a new one to me, AND the "wally" pronunciation as opposed to whale-y. Thanks for the tip. Beverly Graham (granddaughter of Jesse Monroe Whaley, whose father was supposedly Will or Tom Whaley...no proofs) On 7/11/06, Frank Whalley <frankwhalley@hotmail.com> wrote: > > I was born in Staffordshire, England, and there my name was always > pronounced 'Wally', like the first name which is common in the USA but not > very common here. In fact, I have seen the name written in censuses as > 'Wolley', presumably after being spoken to an enumerator by an illiterate > person. > > When I chased my family tree to Cheshire, I found that there in the early > 1800s my family spelled their names 'Walley', without and 'h', and they > were > not illiterate. The 'h' was added later, probably to 'poshify' it. > > I have never visited the village of Whalley in Lancashire (shame!), but > I'm > told by people who come from around there that in those parts it is > pronouned with the long 'a' - Wall - ee. > > In colloquial English, the term 'wally' denotes an inadequate or stupid > person. Therefore I have changed the way I pronounce my name from wally > to > wall-ee. I hasten to add that I did this only because of the ragging my > son > received at school over his name; so when he changed schools it was > natural > to get over the problem by simply saying it differently! > > Incidentally, there are far more Whalleys in England than any other > spelling. Walley is the next most popular, with Whaley a distant third. > > Frank Whalley > Penarth, nr Cardiff, Wales, UK > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > From: cw1210@aol.com > Reply-To: WHALEY-L@rootsweb.com > To: WHALEY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [WSP] Whaley vs Whalley > Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2006 08:01:14 -0400 > > I've never paid too close attention to the spelling of names. Some of my > Dad's brothers use Burnette and some use Burnett. Some spell their > mother's > maiden name Fogel and some spell it Fogle. Other than making for some > difficult times at the funeral homes it's never seemed to make much > difference. > > I did find it interesting though...... My husband and I visited Whalley, > England a few years ago. I had met someone over the internet and arranged > to have her meet us at the train station. We never turned around as she > ran > along behind us calling, "Wally, Wally? Are you Wally?" It had never > occurred to me that the pronunciation would be different there. i.e > . Wall > ee instead of Whale ee > > Connie Whaley > ________________________________________________________________________ > Check out AOL.com today. Breaking news, video search, pictures, email and > IM. All on demand. Always Free. > > > ==== WHALEY Mailing List ==== > Having problems with your subscription? Contact list administrator at > whaley-admin@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > > > ==== WHALEY Mailing List ==== > Wish to post from more than one address? Contact list administrator at > whaley-admin@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > -- Bev Graham Bethany, OK

Carolyn Hi, Please update my listing for Warren F. Whaley regarding the e-mail addresses. Please remove Raymond C. Eggleston: reggleston@freeway.net Thanks for tremendous work. Nancy Castle Eggleston n_eggleston@hotmail.com _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web!

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Perhaps someone can help me here......I'm not clear on which William was the father of Eli C. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carolyn Vosburg" <lynvos@sbcglobal.net> To: <WHALEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 10:22 AM Subject: [WSP] Whaley List Update! Kerry, Is this the right William/Hannah?? William Whaley (m. Hannah Brewton/Broughton/Brawton [not Pound]) ?-1795 MD > Greene Co., GA Doris Russell, DRUSS1955@aol.com (desc of son William) Terrel Shaw, TerrelShaw@aol.com Kay Rockett, KayRockett@webtv.net Joseph R. Jones, jjones@ukcc.uky.edu Mary Lee Barnes, mearsm2@earthlink.net (desc of son Eli) Virginia Wilson, GngrJones@aol.com (desc of dau Mary) Norene Allen, Nallen630@aol.com Sandy Morris Phelps, famleetyme@eosinc.com Scott Meyer, s-meyer@sws.uiuc.edu John Richard Hall, Jrhmdtraum@aol.com Elizabeth G. Brett, tecumseh@ioip.com (desc of son Eli) Carol Murphy, Murph1959@aol.com Kathryn Dingman, KfernDing@aol.com Jodie Fowler Kilgore, JodieK444@aol.com Kerry Smith, kscontrol.alltel.net On Jul 3, 2006, at 8:07 AM, K. Smith wrote: > Please add me to the oldest ancestor William/Hannah Whaley listing. I > am > descended through Eli C, Agrippa, Eli Agrippa, and then James R of Ga. > > kerry smith > kscontrol@alltel.net > > > > ==== WHALEY Mailing List ==== > Wish to post from more than one address? Contact list administrator at > whaley-admin@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your > ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. > Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx? > sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > ==== WHALEY Mailing List ==== Search the list archives: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl - put WHALEY for the name of the list ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

Connie, That is very interesting. I can just hear that British accent....and probably why it is also written down as WILEY, sort of how I imagine some British would say WALLY. Remember My Fair Lady? That's the accent I'm thinking of. Thanks for sharing that. Debbie V. ----- Original Message ----- From: <cw1210@aol.com> To: <WHALEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 8:01 AM Subject: [WSP] Whaley vs Whalley > I've never paid too close attention to the spelling of names. Some of my > Dad's brothers use Burnette and some use Burnett. Some spell their > mother's maiden name Fogel and some spell it Fogle. Other than making for > some difficult times at the funeral homes it's never seemed to make much > difference. > > I did find it interesting though...... My husband and I visited Whalley, > England a few years ago. I had met someone over the internet and arranged > to have her meet us at the train station. We never turned around as she > ran along behind us calling, "Wally, Wally? Are you Wally?" It had > never occurred to me that the pronunciation would be different there. > i.e. Wall ee instead of Whale ee > > Connie Whaley > ________________________________________________________________________ > Check out AOL.com today. Breaking news, video search, pictures, email and > IM. All on demand. Always Free. > > > ==== WHALEY Mailing List ==== > Having problems with your subscription? Contact list administrator at > whaley-admin@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx

I've never paid too close attention to the spelling of names. Some of my Dad's brothers use Burnette and some use Burnett. Some spell their mother's maiden name Fogel and some spell it Fogle. Other than making for some difficult times at the funeral homes it's never seemed to make much difference. I did find it interesting though...... My husband and I visited Whalley, England a few years ago. I had met someone over the internet and arranged to have her meet us at the train station. We never turned around as she ran along behind us calling, "Wally, Wally? Are you Wally?" It had never occurred to me that the pronunciation would be different there. i.e. Wall ee instead of Whale ee Connie Whaley ________________________________________________________________________ Check out AOL.com today. Breaking news, video search, pictures, email and IM. All on demand. Always Free.

opps Wm Jackson is 74, the last number got cut off......sorry ----- Original Message ----- From: holt To: WHALEY-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 12:44 AM Subject: WILLIAM WHALEY FROM CHARLESTON SOUTH CAROLINA Thos Gibson Age in 1860: 10 Birth Year: abt 1850 Birthplace: South Carolina Home in 1860: St James Goose Creek Parish, Charleston, South Carolina Gender: Male Post Office: Mount Holly Value of real estate: View image Household Members: Name Age Wm Whaley 59 Ann Whaley 17 Thos Gibson 10 Wm Jackson 7 Any ideas on how these folks are related? Thanks Robin

Thos Gibson Age in 1860: 10 Birth Year: abt 1850 Birthplace: South Carolina Home in 1860: St James Goose Creek Parish, Charleston, South Carolina Gender: Male Post Office: Mount Holly Value of real estate: View image Household Members: Name Age Wm Whaley 59 Ann Whaley 17 Thos Gibson 10 Wm Jackson 7 Any ideas on how these folks are related? Thanks Robin

Carolyn, Spelling comes from: 1790 Iredell County Census - 393-22 John Whealey, 393-29 Joseph Whealey Sr., and 393-33 Joseph Whealey Jr. Rowan Deeds 11:372. 9 Aug. 1787. State Grant #1517 @ 50 sh the 100 A to Joseph Whelley/Whealey, 300 A betw Buffalo Shoal Crk and "that on which Moses Nesbet lives" adj Samuel Hustin. Rowan County Deeds 11:190. 9 Oct. 1787. State Grant #1618 @ 50 sh the 100 A to James Houston, 100 A on Buffalo Shoal Crk on the Branch Known as the Broad Meadow Branch adj Joseph Whealy & one McCay's claim and the Widow Thomas. From what I can ascertain from looking at old maps of that area the Josephs were just on the north side of the Catawba River. As an aside here which I find interesting is that Henrietta Whaley of Kent Co MD (her supposed father was Richard Whaley; according to Guy Wallis there are no probate records for Richard Whaley in Kent Co. MD). Henrietta married a Nicholas Massey of Kent Co MD - the Masseys are also on the 1790 census however by this time Henrietta had passed on - believe they lived in the Shiloh Township area with land on the north side of the Catawba River and are buried there at a church cemetery the name of which is in a pile of notes here? Also a Celia Whaley was m. in 1782 to William Woodside and that household is listed next to Joseph Whealey Jr. in the 1790 census. A person could guess that Celia was the daughter of Joseph Sr. from his first wife (my missing 6g-grandmother) but I won't. There are many Whaleys there in Rowan/Iredell Co. - would be interesting to find the family connections. Thank you again Carolyn - sorry 'bout that digressing. -Margaret ----Original Message Follows---- From: Carolyn Vosburg <lynvos@sbcglobal.net> Reply-To: WHALEY-L@rootsweb.com To: WHALEY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [WSP] Joseph Whaley/Whealey of Iredell Co, NC Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2006 23:34:25 -0500 Margaret, One more question: Where did you run into the Whealey spelling of Joseph's name? That's the only other time I've seen that spelling variation other than in the marriage record of MY James Whaley/Whealey in Virginia! C. On Jul 4, 2006, at 10:47 PM, margaret johnson wrote: >No I don't and it is so frustrating but keep coming up empty.... Joseph >Sr. and Jr. were both in the 1790 Iredell Co. Census - can find no record >of Sr.'s death or birth for that matter - Jr.'s will prob. Aug 1818 in >Iredell Co. NC m. to Esther Davis Dec. 20 1781 - their daughter Violet >Hannah Whaley b. 1789 m. Charles Orton - believe someone on the list is >researching Violet Whaley. > >Thank you Carolyn for taking this list on - quite an endeavor - much >appreciated! > >-Margaret > > > > >From: Carolyn Vosburg <lynvos@sbcglobal.net> >Reply-To: WHALEY-L@rootsweb.com >To: WHALEY-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [WSP] Whaley Oldest Ancestor List >Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2006 18:17:19 -0500 >Margaret, > Do you have birth/death dates for Joseph??? > >C. > > >On Jul 4, 2006, at 4:24 PM, margaret johnson wrote: > >>Was on the list before but see am no longer - please add me back on to >>the list - my oldest ancestor is Joseph Whaley/Whealey Sr. - 1st wife >>unknown, 2nd wife Lidia Justice, Hance Justice Bondsman - m. 5 Dec. 1785 >>Rowan County NC. >> >>Thank you. >> >>Margaret Johnson >> >> >> >>==== WHALEY Mailing List ==== >>Having problems with your subscription? Contact list administrator at >>whaley-admin@rootsweb.com >> >>============================== >>Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >>last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >>http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >> > > >==== WHALEY Mailing List ==== >Wish to post from more than one address? Contact list administrator at >whaley-admin@rootsweb.com > >============================== >Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. >New content added every business day. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > > > >==== WHALEY Mailing List ==== >Search the list archives: >http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl - put WHALEY for >the name of the list > >============================== >New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors >at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: >http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx? >sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > ==== WHALEY Mailing List ==== To Unsubscribe from this list - send email to - whaley-L-request@rootsweb.com with the single word - unsubscribe in the body of the email. If you are subscribed in Digest mode use the same address but change the -L- to -D-. ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429

If you have updates to make to the Oldest Whaley list that Carolyn published a few days ago, please send it directly to her, instead of the list. "Carolyn Vosburg" <lynvos@sbcglobal.net> The greatly increased traffic seems to be having the effect of causing several members to unsubscribe from the list. While the list is about cousins making connections, please consider others when you post to the list - whether your note is more personal in nature or not. Thanks, ------------------------------------------------------via webmail---- Tim Stowell tstowell@chattanooga.net

Hi Robin, Lynn and Tena, Hope you had a great 4th. I think Lynn stated the wrong bday for George Jr. It is actually July 18, 1805, not 1818. :) I got the DNA test kit. I'm sending it back today. There is only one other Whaley to compare it with at this time. Hopefully more will follow. This will really get the lines mapped if people follow up. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "holt" <holt@vci.net> To: <WHALEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 2:05 PM Subject: Re: [WSP] George P. Whaley >I sure wish we could figure out who this darn Gibson was ha ha. HAPPY 4th >of JULY Lynn & everyone. Robin > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <lhalti@comcast.net> > To: <WHALEY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 10:21 AM > Subject: [WSP] George P. Whaley > > >> George Powell , Sr. wife name was Mary. No surname. >> He had 4 children: Mary married a Gibson, William born abt. 1801, George, >> Jr.(born July 18, 1818) that married Eliza Smith; and Suzanna (born abt >> Feb. 18,1818) who married James Cree. All of these people lived in St. >> James Goose Creek, SC at the time of their birth. An old genealogist and >> historian told me that he believed that John Whaley was the father of >> George Powell, Sr. as he had 1000 acres next to GP, Sr. Lynn Haltiwanger >> >> >> ==== WHALEY Mailing List ==== >> Wish to post from more than one address? Contact list administrator at >> whaley-admin@rootsweb.com >> >> ============================== >> Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for >> ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx >> >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >> Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 268.9.8/381 - Release Date: 7/3/2006 >> >> >

Carolyn and everyone, I am involved with a group of Bentley researchers with lines going back to Amelia County and Richmond County, including the Daniel Bentley and David (?) mentioned below in what I assume is a codicil to the original 1749 will of James Whaley. I am curious if anyone knows what the kinship relationship, if any, is between the Whaleys and the Bentleys, and the Hillmans as well. I note that one of the Whaleys went to Bourbon Co. KY. I am curious if any further information on the later migration of descendants of these Whaleys is known. Best Regards, Janet Hunter In a message dated 7/1/2006 6:33:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time, lynvos@sbcglobal.net writes: > Paul, > For such a long time I thought that James above might be my ancestor. > Eventually > I created a Gedcom file of everyone connected to that line! If you'd > like it, I'll be glad to > send it. I would just need to know the format of your genealogy > program, whether it's > Windows, MS-DOS or Ancel. Just let me know 1) if you want it and 2) > which format! > > Here is the entry for the father of your James, I believe. > > Family Group Report 7/1/06: > > Gen. 1 James WHALEY > ————————————————————————————————————————————— > Birth: 1684, Westmoreland Co, Virginia > Death: bef 4 Jun 1750, Richmond Co, VA > Occ: Planter; lived in New Kent Co, VA before Richmond Co. > > JAMES WHALEY was born about 1684 in Westmoreland County Virginia. He > had previously lived in New Kent County, Virginia but died in 1750 in > Richmond County, Virginia, where he owned a large plantation. His > will, dated Jan. 4, 1749 and probated June 4, 1750, named his wife > Elizabeth and his sons. > Issue of James & Elizabeth Whaley: > > WILLIAM WHALEY b 1717 Lived in Loudoun Co Va d Fairfax Va 1790 > md 1st Lena Mason ; (one son, Wm.); md 2nd Barbara Remy > (d12 Dec 1826 Bourbon Co Ky) dau of Jacob Remy III and his wife Sarah > > THOMAS WHALEY b 1724 New Kent Co., VA md Margaret PUGH > > (Gen. 2) JAMES WHALEY Jr b July 19 1728 New Kent Co Va d 1784 Cameron > Parish Loudoun Co Va md 1st Lydia Ann Remy dau of Jacob Remy III & his > wife Sarah; md 2nd Ann (Talbott) Carter, widow of James Carter > > The record in St. Peter's Parish, New Kent County, Virginia reads: > "James Whaley, son of James Whaley, born July ye 19 baptized Aug. 11, > 1728." > > There is a listing in the log of Ship's Passenger Lists of a James > Whaley coming to Virginia in 1698, from O'Brien, Michael J. "Granters > of Land in Colony & State of VA" Journal of the American Irish > Historical Society 13 (1913--14) pp. 214--219. (Who is this?) > > Deed Abstracts of Stafford Co > VA 1722- 1728, 1755-1765: > On pp519-521: "This Indenture made 12th June 1728 between Thomas Owsley > of Parish Overwharton, County Stafford, Planter, & James Whaley of > Parish Washington in county Westmoreland, Planter ... in consideration > sum of 8000 pounds Tobacco ... by deeds of lease & release .. sold land > in Parish > Overwharton on a Run comonly called Accotink Run containing 250 acres > whereof is to lye on South side of the said run which said parcel is > part of a Patent for 600 acres formerly granted to Major Thomas Owsley, > father to aforesaid Thomas by Deed 17th November 1696." > On pp132-133: "1730 Û The Estate of Thomas Reilly to Charles > McClelland and Eliza: his wife, executrix of the last will and > testament of said Thomas > Reilly, deceased Dr. paid Henry Floyd, John Coos, Stephen Sploon, Enoch > Innys, Rawleigh Chinn, John Mercer, Wm. Brent, Joseph Waugh, John > Toward, Corn received of James Whaley & Humphrey Evans & used for the > Stock and family...At Court held for Stafford County 13th March > 1733..." > NOTE: Paul, I've never been able to verify WHICH James Whaley this is > referring to; could be yours, could me mine, or another James even yet! > CWV > > Will of James Whaley, Executed 4 January 1749, Proved 4 June 1750, > Recorded in Richmond County, VA, Will Book 5, pg. 613: > "In the name of God Amen I James Whaley of the Parish of Lunenburg in > the County of Richmond being of a Perfect Sense and Memory Praised be > Almighty God for the same and Knowing that Nothing is more Certain than > Death Soe Nothing is more Uncertain than the time thereof, I hope to > have full and free Pardon and forgiveness of all my sins and to be > partaker of the Glorious Resurrection Through our Lord Jesus by the > Almighty Power of God Do Make this Last Will and Testament in manner > and form as followeth And as Touching the Disposition of such Temporal > Estate as it hath Pleased Almighty God to bestow upon me I give and > bequeath in the following manner & form. > Item. I Give and Bequeath my horse and side Saddle and Negro fellow > Named Tom and a Bed and furniture and the Crop of Corn and Tobacco on > the Plantation whereon the said fellow now lives To my loving Wife > Elizabeth, during her Widowhood and if She Marries or Dies To my son > Thomas Whaley. > Item. I give and Bequeath to my son William Whaley all of my Waring > Cloath's and Saddle and one Bed and furniture and my Crop whereon I now > live and only my Debts to be paid out of it. > Item. I give and bequeath to my son James Whaley my Negro boy named > Jack To him and his heirs forever. I will that all the Rest of my > Moveables Should be Equally Divided Between my wife Elizabeth and my > son William Whaley. > Lastly I Nominate and Constitute and appoint my son William Whaley my > whole and Sole Executor of this my Last Will and Testament Revoking and > making void all other Wills by me heretofore made and this to stand as > my Last Will and Testament In witness whereof I have here unto set my > hand and Seale This 4th day of January 1749. > James (his x mark) Whaley > Signed Sealed and Published and > Declared to be his Last Will > and Testament in Presence of us > David Hilman > Daniel Bentley > > Item. I give and Bequeath to William Whaley my younger son four > thousand pounds of Tobo that Received for the Negro wench named Cabe of > Valentine Garner and to be left in Col. John Taylor hands while the > child comes of age and if he dies for it to fall to by Beloved son > Thomas Whaley under age. My Daughter I cut her off with a Shilling > Sterling. > James (his x mark) Whaley > Test > Richard R. Hillman > his mark > David Bentley > > At a Court Held for Richmond County the fourth Day of June 1750. > This Will was Presented in Court by Elizabeth Whaley widdow and being > Proved by the Oaths of David Hilman and Daniel Bentley Witnesses > thereto was by the Court Ordered to be Recorded. And also the Codicil > thereon Written was Prov'd by the Oath of Richard Hilman and by the > Court Ordered to be Recorded. > Test T. Tarpley DCC > > Spouse: Elizabeth Mrs. > Marr: 1714, Loudoun Co, VA > > Children: Thomas (1724-1791) > William (1717-1785) > James (1728-1784) > Unidentified Daughter > > > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Whaley Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ANWBAIB/947 Message Board Post: I am looking for my grandfather's bible. His name was Charles McDonald Whaley born in SC 1878. He got the bible from his dad, Walter Calhoun Whaley. I remember when I was about 10 or 12 years old (40 years ago) one of his sister's daughters or grandaughters came and borrowed the bible to make copies. It was never returned. We would really like to get it back. My father is in his late 70's now and looking at that bible with his mother and father was one of his fondest memories. I too remember the bible. It was a very honored piece of our genealogy.

Carolyn, I also have a WHEALY spelling (I just figure it is a mistake by the census taker). ----------------------- 1850 US Census, Franklin County, TN, District #3, Page 23 Edward WHEALEY, 23 M, Labourer, Unknown place of birth (later he is listed as b in TN) (along with wife Mary and daughter Catherine) ----------------- Debbie V. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carolyn Vosburg" <lynvos@sbcglobal.net> To: <WHALEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 12:34 AM Subject: [WSP] Joseph Whaley/Whealey of Iredell Co, NC > Margaret, > > One more question: Where did you run into the Whealey spelling of > Joseph's name? That's the only other > time I've seen that spelling variation other than in the marriage record > of MY James Whaley/Whealey in Virginia! > > C. > > > On Jul 4, 2006, at 10:47 PM, margaret johnson wrote: > >> No I don't and it is so frustrating but keep coming up empty.... Joseph >> Sr. and Jr. were both in the 1790 Iredell Co. Census - can find no >> record of Sr.'s death or birth for that matter - Jr.'s will prob. Aug >> 1818 in Iredell Co. NC m. to Esther Davis Dec. 20 1781 - their daughter >> Violet Hannah Whaley b. 1789 m. Charles Orton - believe someone on the >> list is researching Violet Whaley. >> >> Thank you Carolyn for taking this list on - quite an endeavor - much >> appreciated! >> >> -Margaret >> >> >> >> >> From: Carolyn Vosburg <lynvos@sbcglobal.net> >> Reply-To: WHALEY-L@rootsweb.com >> To: WHALEY-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [WSP] Whaley Oldest Ancestor List >> Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2006 18:17:19 -0500 >> Margaret, >> Do you have birth/death dates for Joseph??? >> >> C. >> >> >> On Jul 4, 2006, at 4:24 PM, margaret johnson wrote: >> >>> Was on the list before but see am no longer - please add me back on to >>> the list - my oldest ancestor is Joseph Whaley/Whealey Sr. - 1st wife >>> unknown, 2nd wife Lidia Justice, Hance Justice Bondsman - m. 5 Dec. >>> 1785 Rowan County NC. >>> >>> Thank you. >>> >>> Margaret Johnson >>> >>> >>> >>> ==== WHALEY Mailing List ==== >>> Having problems with your subscription? Contact list administrator at >>> whaley-admin@rootsweb.com >>> >>> ============================== >>> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >>> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >>> http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >>> >> >> >> ==== WHALEY Mailing List ==== >> Wish to post from more than one address? Contact list administrator at >> whaley-admin@rootsweb.com >> >> ============================== >> Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. >> New content added every business day. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx >> >> >> >> ==== WHALEY Mailing List ==== >> Search the list archives: >> http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl - put WHALEY for >> the name of the list >> >> ============================== >> New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your >> ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. >> Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx? >> sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 >> > > > ==== WHALEY Mailing List ==== > To Unsubscribe from this list - send email to - > whaley-L-request@rootsweb.com with the single word - unsubscribe in the > body of the email. If you are subscribed in Digest mode use the same > address but change the -L- to -D-. > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429

My grandmother, Millie Albright, daughter of Maggie Whaley, is looking for Lola Whaley. Her mother's name may have been Ruby. Any help from anyone on this one? She would probably be around 75 years old now. Thanks, Dana

Carolyn I didn't see a list for the J's, but the person looking for Thomas Howard Whaley m. Martha Butcher, belongs to my line of James Whaley & Rachel Howard. I tried emailing them but it came back as undelivered. If they are reading this contact me and I can give them more info.

Carolyn Vosburg wrote: > Margaret, > > One more question: Where did you run into the Whealey spelling of > Joseph's name? That's the only other > time I've seen that spelling variation other than in the marriage record > of MY James Whaley/Whealey in Virginia! > > C. I know I don't have to tell you, Carolyn, but... we must be careful to not put too much stock in name spellings. "Correct" spelling, or expecting consistency in spelling, is a modern invention! No, seriously, there were relatively few really well-educated people back 2 and 300 years ago, most especially among those who acted as scribes - public figures who initiated records and entered names in public records of any kind. Unfortunately, this includes the parents of the child, the clergy generating records, the various government agencies... the list goes on and on. When a mother names her child, she might have a clear understanding of how that name is traditionally, or how she wants it to be spelled, but does she check any of the records and make correction if she finds an error? Look at all the functionally illiterate people we have among us in *this* enlightened age! It's scary how many there are - somehow managing to hold jobs, but I'd be willing to bet that they don't hold accurate spelling among their more important skills... In parts of England, as I have come to understand it, the double L spelling of Whalley was considered an interchangeable exercise, done on a whim... Members of the same family took it upon themselves to drop an L and from then on become known as Whaley. Or vise versa. Just because they wanted to! The uncertainty of technically (?) and traditionally correct spelling of family given and surnames ought to be part of Genealogy 101... Sometimes how a name is spelled gives one an important clue, as that to which Carolyn alludes... I'd venture that just as often it is misleading, and one should not put too much stock in it. In my humble opinion. <g> keith whaley

Margaret, One more question: Where did you run into the Whealey spelling of Joseph's name? That's the only other time I've seen that spelling variation other than in the marriage record of MY James Whaley/Whealey in Virginia! C. On Jul 4, 2006, at 10:47 PM, margaret johnson wrote: > No I don't and it is so frustrating but keep coming up empty.... > Joseph Sr. and Jr. were both in the 1790 Iredell Co. Census - can find > no record of Sr.'s death or birth for that matter - Jr.'s will prob. > Aug 1818 in Iredell Co. NC m. to Esther Davis Dec. 20 1781 - their > daughter Violet Hannah Whaley b. 1789 m. Charles Orton - believe > someone on the list is researching Violet Whaley. > > Thank you Carolyn for taking this list on - quite an endeavor - much > appreciated! > > -Margaret > > > > > From: Carolyn Vosburg <lynvos@sbcglobal.net> > Reply-To: WHALEY-L@rootsweb.com > To: WHALEY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [WSP] Whaley Oldest Ancestor List > Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2006 18:17:19 -0500 > Margaret, > Do you have birth/death dates for Joseph??? > > C. > > > On Jul 4, 2006, at 4:24 PM, margaret johnson wrote: > >> Was on the list before but see am no longer - please add me back on >> to the list - my oldest ancestor is Joseph Whaley/Whealey Sr. - 1st >> wife unknown, 2nd wife Lidia Justice, Hance Justice Bondsman - m. 5 >> Dec. 1785 Rowan County NC. >> >> Thank you. >> >> Margaret Johnson >> >> >> >> ==== WHALEY Mailing List ==== >> Having problems with your subscription? Contact list administrator at >> whaley-admin@rootsweb.com >> >> ============================== >> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >> > > > ==== WHALEY Mailing List ==== > Wish to post from more than one address? Contact list administrator at > whaley-admin@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > > > > ==== WHALEY Mailing List ==== > Search the list archives: > http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl - put WHALEY for > the name of the list > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your > ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. > Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx? > sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 >

No I don't and it is so frustrating but keep coming up empty.... Joseph Sr. and Jr. were both in the 1790 Iredell Co. Census - can find no record of Sr.'s death or birth for that matter - Jr.'s will prob. Aug 1818 in Iredell Co. NC m. to Esther Davis Dec. 20 1781 - their daughter Violet Hannah Whaley b. 1789 m. Charles Orton - believe someone on the list is researching Violet Whaley. Thank you Carolyn for taking this list on - quite an endeavor - much appreciated! -Margaret From: Carolyn Vosburg <lynvos@sbcglobal.net> Reply-To: WHALEY-L@rootsweb.com To: WHALEY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WSP] Whaley Oldest Ancestor List Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2006 18:17:19 -0500 Margaret, Do you have birth/death dates for Joseph??? C. On Jul 4, 2006, at 4:24 PM, margaret johnson wrote: >Was on the list before but see am no longer - please add me back on to the >list - my oldest ancestor is Joseph Whaley/Whealey Sr. - 1st wife unknown, >2nd wife Lidia Justice, Hance Justice Bondsman - m. 5 Dec. 1785 Rowan >County NC. > >Thank you. > >Margaret Johnson > > > >==== WHALEY Mailing List ==== >Having problems with your subscription? Contact list administrator at >whaley-admin@rootsweb.com > >============================== >Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > ==== WHALEY Mailing List ==== Wish to post from more than one address? Contact list administrator at whaley-admin@rootsweb.com ============================== Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. New content added every business day. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx