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    1. Re: [WHALEY] DNA Interest List
    2. Hart, Bob - Global IT
    3. Greetings- I would like to be sure I am interpreting the DNA results correctly. The descendant postings on FamilyTreeDNA under the Whaley surname are here: http://worldfamilies.net/surnames/w/whaley/pats.html The actual Y-test results are here: http://worldfamilies.net/surnames/w/whaley/results.html The first page seems to show that Y-results have been posted for three people: W-1 is not labeled, so I'm not sure who was tested, but his ancestor was James Whaley, Sr. W-2 looks like Charles M. Whaley was the person tested, and his ancestor was George Powell Whaley, Sr. W-3 looks like Marcus Wright Whaley was the person tested, and his ancestor was John Whaley. The Y-test results page shows the actual markers for persons W-1, W-2, and W-3. I counted the differences in the first 12 columns to get the 12-marker genetic distance for each pair per the instructions at: http://www.ysearch.org/help.asp?uid I get total differences using 12 markers of 7, 12, and 15. According to the instructions for interpreting a 12-market test, these Whaleys all have a most recent common ancestor thousands of years back, so each of these three is completely unrelated to the others. Is this the correct interpretation of the results? -Bob -----Original Message----- From: whaley-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:whaley-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 4:34 PM To: whaley@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WHALEY] DNA Interest List Issac Whaley, Can you post your DNA results on Family Tree DNA? If you need help, I will be glad to offer. Mike Whaley ----- Original Message ----- From: "Justin Whaley" <xypher9@gmail.com> To: <whaley@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 2:00 PM Subject: Re: [WHALEY] DNA Interest List > ***UPDATED*** > > The list of those itnerested in compiling and comparing DNA of the > numerous > branches of the Whaley surname. > > Justin Whaley > Isaac Whaley -DTC > Linda Boehme -DTC (Richard W. Whaley) > Beverly Graham -NMS > Donald Whaley > Paul Whaley II > Roger Whaley > Mike Whaley -DTC > Gene Whaley > Adele Walenciak -NMS > John Whaley > > KEY: DTC= DNA Test Completed > NMS= Needs Male Source > > On 11/29/06, Justin Whaley <xypher9@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Let me go into a bit more detail. >> >> The list is for those who are interested in getting the Y-DNA37 test >> done. >> >> You will be responsible for the cost of getting your DNA test. If you >> cant >> afford it maybe we can come up with a way to make it affordable. >> >> Once we have a diverse enough sampling of DNA for the Whaley surname. >> Meaning at least one sample from some of the major branches of the Whaley >> surname me and anyone else who wishes to donate thier time will begin to >> look at how each of the families coorilate. >> >> This will be done by looking at how each family relates and this is told >> to us by the DNA lab we send our DNA into. >> >> We then use those coorilations to find out where we all branched out >> along >> the way. >> >> Once we begin to figure that out maybe some gaps and holes in some family >> line can be filled in by other lines with common descent. >> >> The possibilites and benefits are endless and I am a bit busy so I will >> not go into everything as of yet. >> >> >> On 11/29/06, Justin Whaley <xypher9@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> > Sorry if I led to confusion This list is for people interested in just >> > getting the test done. After you get the test done the company doing >> > the >> > testing compares the DNA to others in your DNA Project telling you who >> > is >> > related and how..... >> > >> > On 11/29/06, keith_w < keith_w@dslextreme.com> wrote: >> > > >> > > Justin Whaley wrote: >> > > > The list of those itnerested in compiling and comparing DNA of the >> > > numerous >> > > > branches of the Whaley surname. >> > > > >> > > > Justin Whaley >> > > > Isaac Whaley -DTC >> > > > Linda Boehme -NMS >> > > > Beverly Graham -NMS >> > > > Donald Whaley >> > > > Paul Whaley II >> > > > Roger Whaley >> > > > Mike Whaley -DTC >> > > > Gene Whaley >> > > > Adele Walenciak >> > > > >> > > > KEY: DTC= DNA Test Completed >> > > > NMS= Needs Male Source >> > > >> > > Uhhh, hold on here, Justin. >> > > You seem to be pretty fond of the word "compiling." >> > > Now you've just added it to another word, "comparing" which lends a >> > > new >> > > dimension to the task at hand. >> > > >> > > Compiling is merely drawing up a list, for some purpose. Plenty easy. >> > > >> > > Comparing means what? Comparing the DNA data you get back to someone >> > > else's DNA results? >> > > How does one do that? *I* can't do that! >> > > There are experts that are paid well to do that, not so? >> > > So why do you say those who are mentioned on this "DNA Interest List" >> > > are those who have agreed to "...compile and compare DNA of the >> > > various >> > > branches of the Whaley family." >> > > No. Not me. I know only what DNA is, generally speaking. >> > > I wouldn't have a clue as to how to perform any comparison >> > > analyses... >> > > >> > > That's for that expert of which I spoke. >> > > >> > > The DNA test will cost some specified amount, and that's only the >> > > beginning. >> > > Now you have to add the cost of whomever it is that will actually do >> > > the >> > > work of comparing all the individual DNA data that's gathered to each >> > > and every OTHER one. Not so? Otherwise, what good is it for anyone to >> > > have their DNA data extracted and recorded? >> > > >> > > Have you established what the work flow will be, and who the workers >> > > will be? And the ultimate cost of comparing the various DNA sample >> > > data >> > > to those on the list? >> > > >> > > In submitting my name to this compilation of yours, I merely agreed >> > > it >> > > would be a good idea, and said, "Sure. Count me in as a person >> > > interested in donationg his DNA for testing." >> > > Nothing else. >> > > >> > > So...who IS going to do the work, and what will it end up costing us? >> > > Who will be doing the sorting and mailing and emailing and performing >> > > the detailed comparisons required? >> > > >> > > Not me. I'm just a source. >> > > You or your assignee will be doing all the stuff in the above >> > > paragraph, >> > > for some to-be-agreed-upon fee. >> > > >> > > Once I know that, perhaps we can proceed. Not before that. >> > > >> > > Lots of clarification and elaboration needed. >> > > This nucleus must be expanded into a workable plan. >> > > >> > > * * * >> > > >> > > In the meanwhile, I'd almost forgotten about the "other" DNA >> > > comparison >> > > site Mike Whaley mentioned, at: >> > > >> > > http://worldfamilies.net/surnames/w/whaley/. >> > > >> > > I think I'll slip over and take a look at it again. That site is >> > > supposed to have already been established. If so, why start another? >> > > >> > > Later, >> > > >> > > keith whaley >> > > From Charles (Dale, N.Y.), Steven, Lucius Daniel, William Howard, Don >> > > Lucius (my dad.) >> > > >> > > ------------------------------- >> > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > > WHALEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Justin Whaley >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Justin Whaley >> > > > > -- > Justin Whaley > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WHALEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WHALEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    11/29/2006 11:27:58
    1. [WHALEY] Francis Whaley, NC Rev War musician!
    2. Carolyn Vosburg
    3. Anyone know about this fellow???? On Nov 29, 2006, at 3:07 PM, KY2KRNLZ@cs.com wrote: > Carolyn: >        I have been following the information regarding the Whaley DNA > project.  Because I am female and have no close relatives of the same > name, I have thought it would be helpful for those of us in that > category to have the names of the closest ancestor to those who can be > involved in the project. >        My Whaley ancestor was John Whaley born about 1753 who married > Sarah Clementine Randolph 1773 in Jones County NC.  He and Sarah had > three daughters so the Whaley line stops there. >        In other correspondence mention was made about Revolutionary > War soldiers.  John Whaley enlisted May 8, 1777 as private and fifer. > Francis Whaley, musician, on the payroll 1792. >        I don't know the relationship of Francis Whaley to John > Whaley, but they were both in Quinn's Company, 10 th Regiment NC. > Line.    If you have any information about their relationship, I would > be very grateful. > >                                                        Ernestine KY2KRNLZ@cs.com

    11/29/2006 11:19:57
    1. Re: [WHALEY] DNA Interest List
    2. keith_w
    3. sosdrummer@comcast.net wrote: > Linda, > > That's who is listed on the results page. He was trying to interpret the Patriarchs page and correlate it to the Results page. Richard's name does not appear on the Patriarchs page for privacy reasons. > > Mike Pardon me if this is out of line, or I simply don't understand it all, but... What good is all this information to any observer if at every turn we run across "Information withheld for privacy reasons." If the info only goes back to you, it's a good thing for YOU, but not worth much to anyone else... Just curious. keith whaley

    11/29/2006 10:04:52
    1. Re: [WHALEY] DNA Interest List
    2. Mike
    3. Issac Whaley, Can you post your DNA results on Family Tree DNA? If you need help, I will be glad to offer. Mike Whaley ----- Original Message ----- From: "Justin Whaley" <xypher9@gmail.com> To: <whaley@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 2:00 PM Subject: Re: [WHALEY] DNA Interest List > ***UPDATED*** > > The list of those itnerested in compiling and comparing DNA of the > numerous > branches of the Whaley surname. > > Justin Whaley > Isaac Whaley -DTC > Linda Boehme -DTC (Richard W. Whaley) > Beverly Graham -NMS > Donald Whaley > Paul Whaley II > Roger Whaley > Mike Whaley -DTC > Gene Whaley > Adele Walenciak -NMS > John Whaley > > KEY: DTC= DNA Test Completed > NMS= Needs Male Source > > On 11/29/06, Justin Whaley <xypher9@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Let me go into a bit more detail. >> >> The list is for those who are interested in getting the Y-DNA37 test >> done. >> >> You will be responsible for the cost of getting your DNA test. If you >> cant >> afford it maybe we can come up with a way to make it affordable. >> >> Once we have a diverse enough sampling of DNA for the Whaley surname. >> Meaning at least one sample from some of the major branches of the Whaley >> surname me and anyone else who wishes to donate thier time will begin to >> look at how each of the families coorilate. >> >> This will be done by looking at how each family relates and this is told >> to us by the DNA lab we send our DNA into. >> >> We then use those coorilations to find out where we all branched out >> along >> the way. >> >> Once we begin to figure that out maybe some gaps and holes in some family >> line can be filled in by other lines with common descent. >> >> The possibilites and benefits are endless and I am a bit busy so I will >> not go into everything as of yet. >> >> >> On 11/29/06, Justin Whaley <xypher9@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> > Sorry if I led to confusion This list is for people interested in just >> > getting the test done. After you get the test done the company doing >> > the >> > testing compares the DNA to others in your DNA Project telling you who >> > is >> > related and how..... >> > >> > On 11/29/06, keith_w < keith_w@dslextreme.com> wrote: >> > > >> > > Justin Whaley wrote: >> > > > The list of those itnerested in compiling and comparing DNA of the >> > > numerous >> > > > branches of the Whaley surname. >> > > > >> > > > Justin Whaley >> > > > Isaac Whaley -DTC >> > > > Linda Boehme -NMS >> > > > Beverly Graham -NMS >> > > > Donald Whaley >> > > > Paul Whaley II >> > > > Roger Whaley >> > > > Mike Whaley -DTC >> > > > Gene Whaley >> > > > Adele Walenciak >> > > > >> > > > KEY: DTC= DNA Test Completed >> > > > NMS= Needs Male Source >> > > >> > > Uhhh, hold on here, Justin. >> > > You seem to be pretty fond of the word "compiling." >> > > Now you've just added it to another word, "comparing" which lends a >> > > new >> > > dimension to the task at hand. >> > > >> > > Compiling is merely drawing up a list, for some purpose. Plenty easy. >> > > >> > > Comparing means what? Comparing the DNA data you get back to someone >> > > else's DNA results? >> > > How does one do that? *I* can't do that! >> > > There are experts that are paid well to do that, not so? >> > > So why do you say those who are mentioned on this "DNA Interest List" >> > > are those who have agreed to "...compile and compare DNA of the >> > > various >> > > branches of the Whaley family." >> > > No. Not me. I know only what DNA is, generally speaking. >> > > I wouldn't have a clue as to how to perform any comparison >> > > analyses... >> > > >> > > That's for that expert of which I spoke. >> > > >> > > The DNA test will cost some specified amount, and that's only the >> > > beginning. >> > > Now you have to add the cost of whomever it is that will actually do >> > > the >> > > work of comparing all the individual DNA data that's gathered to each >> > > and every OTHER one. Not so? Otherwise, what good is it for anyone to >> > > have their DNA data extracted and recorded? >> > > >> > > Have you established what the work flow will be, and who the workers >> > > will be? And the ultimate cost of comparing the various DNA sample >> > > data >> > > to those on the list? >> > > >> > > In submitting my name to this compilation of yours, I merely agreed >> > > it >> > > would be a good idea, and said, "Sure. Count me in as a person >> > > interested in donationg his DNA for testing." >> > > Nothing else. >> > > >> > > So...who IS going to do the work, and what will it end up costing us? >> > > Who will be doing the sorting and mailing and emailing and performing >> > > the detailed comparisons required? >> > > >> > > Not me. I'm just a source. >> > > You or your assignee will be doing all the stuff in the above >> > > paragraph, >> > > for some to-be-agreed-upon fee. >> > > >> > > Once I know that, perhaps we can proceed. Not before that. >> > > >> > > Lots of clarification and elaboration needed. >> > > This nucleus must be expanded into a workable plan. >> > > >> > > * * * >> > > >> > > In the meanwhile, I'd almost forgotten about the "other" DNA >> > > comparison >> > > site Mike Whaley mentioned, at: >> > > >> > > http://worldfamilies.net/surnames/w/whaley/. >> > > >> > > I think I'll slip over and take a look at it again. That site is >> > > supposed to have already been established. If so, why start another? >> > > >> > > Later, >> > > >> > > keith whaley >> > > From Charles (Dale, N.Y.), Steven, Lucius Daniel, William Howard, Don >> > > Lucius (my dad.) >> > > >> > > ------------------------------- >> > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > > WHALEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Justin Whaley >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Justin Whaley >> > > > > -- > Justin Whaley > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WHALEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

    11/29/2006 09:33:46
    1. Re: [WHALEY] DNA Interest List
    2. Mike
    3. Great Idea! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carolyn Vosburg" <lynvos@sbcglobal.net> To: <whaley@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 2:58 PM Subject: Re: [WHALEY] DNA Interest List > Would it be helpful if those who are interested in this project would > put beside their name their oldest Whaley ancestor, so we can see > at a glance which branches are represented???? Just a thought. > > For instance: > >> Justin Whaley -WDT - James Whaley, Sr. md. Hannah Higgerson >> Linda Boehme -WDT/DTC (Richard W. Whaley)- John C. Whaley md. Matilda >> Collins >> Beverly Graham -NMS -William Whaley md Mary Renfro > > Etc., etc., etc. > > > Carolyn > > > On Nov 29, 2006, at 1:07 PM, Justin Whaley wrote: > >> ***UPDATED LIST*** >> >> The list of those itnterested in compiling and comparing DNA of the >> numerous >> branches of the Whaley surname. >> >> >> Isaac Whaley -DTC >> >> >> Donald Whaley >> Paul Whaley II >> Roger Whaley >> Mike Whaley -DTC >> Gene Whaley >> Adele Walenciak -NMS >> John Whaley >> >> KEY: DTC= DNA Test Completed >> NMS= Needs Male Source >> WDT= Will donate time >> On 11/29/06, Linda Boehme <lboehme@pacbell.net> wrote: >>> >>> Justin, >>> >>> I will be willing to donate some of my time to help with comparison or >>> correlation or anything else I can help you with. >>> >>> Linda Boehme >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: whaley-bounces@rootsweb.com >>> [mailto:whaley-bounces@rootsweb.com] On >>> Behalf Of Justin Whaley >>> Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 10:59 AM >>> To: whaley@rootsweb.com >>> Subject: Re: [WHALEY] DNA Interest List >>> >>> Let me go into a bit more detail. >>> >>> The list is for those who are interested in getting the Y-DNA37 test >>> done. >>> >>> You will be responsible for the cost of getting your DNA test. If you >>> cant >>> afford it maybe we can come up with a way to make it affordable. >>> >>> Once we have a diverse enough sampling of DNA for the Whaley surname. >>> Meaning at least one sample from some of the major branches of the >>> Whaley >>> surname me and anyone else who wishes to donate thier time will begin >>> to >>> look at how each of the families coorilate. >>> >>> This will be done by looking at how each family relates and this is >>> told >>> to >>> us by the DNA lab we send our DNA into. >>> >>> We then use those coorilations to find out where we all branched out >>> along >>> the way. >>> >>> Once we begin to figure that out maybe some gaps and holes in some >>> family >>> line can be filled in by other lines with common descent. >>> >>> The possibilites and benefits are endless and I am a bit busy so I >>> will >>> not >>> go into everything as of yet. >>> >>> >>> On 11/29/06, Justin Whaley <xypher9@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Sorry if I led to confusion This list is for people interested in >>>> just >>>> getting the test done. After you get the test done the company doing >>>> the testing compares the DNA to others in your DNA Project telling >>>> you >>>> who is related and how..... >>>> >>>> On 11/29/06, keith_w <keith_w@dslextreme.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Justin Whaley wrote: >>>>>> The list of those itnerested in compiling and comparing DNA of the >>>>> numerous >>>>>> branches of the Whaley surname. >>>>>> >>>>>> Justin Whaley >>>>>> Isaac Whaley -DTC >>>>>> Linda Boehme -NMS >>>>>> Beverly Graham -NMS >>>>>> Donald Whaley >>>>>> Paul Whaley II >>>>>> Roger Whaley >>>>>> Mike Whaley -DTC >>>>>> Gene Whaley >>>>>> Adele Walenciak >>>>>> >>>>>> KEY: DTC= DNA Test Completed >>>>>> NMS= Needs Male Source >>>>> >>>>> Uhhh, hold on here, Justin. >>>>> You seem to be pretty fond of the word "compiling." >>>>> Now you've just added it to another word, "comparing" which lends a >>>>> new dimension to the task at hand. >>>>> >>>>> Compiling is merely drawing up a list, for some purpose. Plenty >>>>> easy. >>>>> >>>>> Comparing means what? Comparing the DNA data you get back to someone >>>>> else's DNA results? >>>>> How does one do that? *I* can't do that! >>>>> There are experts that are paid well to do that, not so? >>>>> So why do you say those who are mentioned on this "DNA Interest >>>>> List" >>>>> are those who have agreed to "...compile and compare DNA of the >>>>> various branches of the Whaley family." >>>>> No. Not me. I know only what DNA is, generally speaking. >>>>> I wouldn't have a clue as to how to perform any comparison >>>>> analyses... >>>>> >>>>> That's for that expert of which I spoke. >>>>> >>>>> The DNA test will cost some specified amount, and that's only the >>>>> beginning. >>>>> Now you have to add the cost of whomever it is that will actually do >>>>> the >>>>> >>>>> work of comparing all the individual DNA data that's gathered to >>>>> each and every OTHER one. Not so? Otherwise, what good is it for >>>>> anyone to have their DNA data extracted and recorded? >>>>> >>>>> Have you established what the work flow will be, and who the workers >>>>> will be? And the ultimate cost of comparing the various DNA sample >>>>> data to those on the list? >>>>> >>>>> In submitting my name to this compilation of yours, I merely agreed >>>>> it would be a good idea, and said, "Sure. Count me in as a person >>>>> interested in donationg his DNA for testing." >>>>> Nothing else. >>>>> >>>>> So...who IS going to do the work, and what will it end up costing >>>>> us? >>>>> Who will be doing the sorting and mailing and emailing and >>>>> performing the detailed comparisons required? >>>>> >>>>> Not me. I'm just a source. >>>>> You or your assignee will be doing all the stuff in the above >>>>> paragraph, for some to-be-agreed-upon fee. >>>>> >>>>> Once I know that, perhaps we can proceed. Not before that. >>>>> >>>>> Lots of clarification and elaboration needed. >>>>> This nucleus must be expanded into a workable plan. >>>>> >>>>> * * * >>>>> >>>>> In the meanwhile, I'd almost forgotten about the "other" DNA >>>>> comparison site Mike Whaley mentioned, at: >>>>> >>>>> http://worldfamilies.net/surnames/w/whaley/. >>>>> >>>>> I think I'll slip over and take a look at it again. That site is >>>>> supposed to have already been established. If so, why start another? >>>>> >>>>> Later, >>>>> >>>>> keith whaley >>>>> From Charles (Dale, N.Y.), Steven, Lucius Daniel, William Howard, >>>>> Don Lucius (my dad.) >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> WHALEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Justin Whaley >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Justin Whaley >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> WHALEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes >>> in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> WHALEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes >>> in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Justin Whaley >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> WHALEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WHALEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

    11/29/2006 08:44:07
    1. Re: [WHALEY] DNA Interest List
    2. Mike
    3. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Justin Whaley" <xypher9@gmail.com> To: <whaley@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 2:07 PM Subject: Re: [WHALEY] DNA Interest List > ***UPDATED LIST*** > > The list of those itnterested in compiling and comparing DNA of the > numerous > branches of the Whaley surname. > > Justin Whaley -WDT > Isaac Whaley -DTC > Linda Boehme -WDT/DTC (Richard W. Whaley) > Beverly Graham -NMS > Donald Whaley > Paul Whaley II > Roger Whaley > Mike Whaley -DTC George Powell Whaley Sr. b 1775 SC > Gene Whaley > Adele Walenciak -NMS > John Whaley > > KEY: DTC= DNA Test Completed > NMS= Needs Male Source > WDT= Will donate time > On 11/29/06, Linda Boehme <lboehme@pacbell.net> wrote: >> >> Justin, >> >> I will be willing to donate some of my time to help with comparison or >> correlation or anything else I can help you with. >> >> Linda Boehme >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: whaley-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:whaley-bounces@rootsweb.com] On >> Behalf Of Justin Whaley >> Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 10:59 AM >> To: whaley@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [WHALEY] DNA Interest List >> >> Let me go into a bit more detail. >> >> The list is for those who are interested in getting the Y-DNA37 test >> done. >> >> You will be responsible for the cost of getting your DNA test. If you >> cant >> afford it maybe we can come up with a way to make it affordable. >> >> Once we have a diverse enough sampling of DNA for the Whaley surname. >> Meaning at least one sample from some of the major branches of the Whaley >> surname me and anyone else who wishes to donate thier time will begin to >> look at how each of the families coorilate. >> >> This will be done by looking at how each family relates and this is told >> to >> us by the DNA lab we send our DNA into. >> >> We then use those coorilations to find out where we all branched out >> along >> the way. >> >> Once we begin to figure that out maybe some gaps and holes in some family >> line can be filled in by other lines with common descent. >> >> The possibilites and benefits are endless and I am a bit busy so I will >> not >> go into everything as of yet. >> >> >> On 11/29/06, Justin Whaley <xypher9@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> > Sorry if I led to confusion This list is for people interested in just >> > getting the test done. After you get the test done the company doing >> > the testing compares the DNA to others in your DNA Project telling you >> > who is related and how..... >> > >> > On 11/29/06, keith_w <keith_w@dslextreme.com> wrote: >> > > >> > > Justin Whaley wrote: >> > > > The list of those itnerested in compiling and comparing DNA of the >> > > numerous >> > > > branches of the Whaley surname. >> > > > >> > > > Justin Whaley >> > > > Isaac Whaley -DTC >> > > > Linda Boehme -NMS >> > > > Beverly Graham -NMS >> > > > Donald Whaley >> > > > Paul Whaley II >> > > > Roger Whaley >> > > > Mike Whaley -DTC >> > > > Gene Whaley >> > > > Adele Walenciak >> > > > >> > > > KEY: DTC= DNA Test Completed >> > > > NMS= Needs Male Source >> > > >> > > Uhhh, hold on here, Justin. >> > > You seem to be pretty fond of the word "compiling." >> > > Now you've just added it to another word, "comparing" which lends a >> > > new dimension to the task at hand. >> > > >> > > Compiling is merely drawing up a list, for some purpose. Plenty easy. >> > > >> > > Comparing means what? Comparing the DNA data you get back to someone >> > > else's DNA results? >> > > How does one do that? *I* can't do that! >> > > There are experts that are paid well to do that, not so? >> > > So why do you say those who are mentioned on this "DNA Interest List" >> > > are those who have agreed to "...compile and compare DNA of the >> > > various branches of the Whaley family." >> > > No. Not me. I know only what DNA is, generally speaking. >> > > I wouldn't have a clue as to how to perform any comparison >> > > analyses... >> > > >> > > That's for that expert of which I spoke. >> > > >> > > The DNA test will cost some specified amount, and that's only the >> > > beginning. >> > > Now you have to add the cost of whomever it is that will actually do >> > > the >> > > >> > > work of comparing all the individual DNA data that's gathered to >> > > each and every OTHER one. Not so? Otherwise, what good is it for >> > > anyone to have their DNA data extracted and recorded? >> > > >> > > Have you established what the work flow will be, and who the workers >> > > will be? And the ultimate cost of comparing the various DNA sample >> > > data to those on the list? >> > > >> > > In submitting my name to this compilation of yours, I merely agreed >> > > it would be a good idea, and said, "Sure. Count me in as a person >> > > interested in donationg his DNA for testing." >> > > Nothing else. >> > > >> > > So...who IS going to do the work, and what will it end up costing us? >> > > Who will be doing the sorting and mailing and emailing and >> > > performing the detailed comparisons required? >> > > >> > > Not me. I'm just a source. >> > > You or your assignee will be doing all the stuff in the above >> > > paragraph, for some to-be-agreed-upon fee. >> > > >> > > Once I know that, perhaps we can proceed. Not before that. >> > > >> > > Lots of clarification and elaboration needed. >> > > This nucleus must be expanded into a workable plan. >> > > >> > > * * * >> > > >> > > In the meanwhile, I'd almost forgotten about the "other" DNA >> > > comparison site Mike Whaley mentioned, at: >> > > >> > > http://worldfamilies.net/surnames/w/whaley/. >> > > >> > > I think I'll slip over and take a look at it again. That site is >> > > supposed to have already been established. If so, why start another? >> > > >> > > Later, >> > > >> > > keith whaley >> > > From Charles (Dale, N.Y.), Steven, Lucius Daniel, William Howard, >> > > Don Lucius (my dad.) >> > > >> > > ------------------------------- >> > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > > WHALEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Justin Whaley >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Justin Whaley >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> WHALEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> WHALEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > -- > Justin Whaley > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WHALEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

    11/29/2006 08:43:16
    1. Re: [WHALEY] DNA Interest List
    2. Linda Boehme
    3. Bob, I don't know about your final interpretation, but W-3 should be Richard W Whaley (the person tested), the son of Marcus W Whaley whose oldest ancester is John Whaley. Linda Whaley Boehme -----Original Message----- From: whaley-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:whaley-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Hart, Bob - Global IT Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 3:28 PM To: whaley@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WHALEY] DNA Interest List Greetings- I would like to be sure I am interpreting the DNA results correctly. The descendant postings on FamilyTreeDNA under the Whaley surname are here: http://worldfamilies.net/surnames/w/whaley/pats.html The actual Y-test results are here: http://worldfamilies.net/surnames/w/whaley/results.html The first page seems to show that Y-results have been posted for three people: W-1 is not labeled, so I'm not sure who was tested, but his ancestor was James Whaley, Sr. W-2 looks like Charles M. Whaley was the person tested, and his ancestor was George Powell Whaley, Sr. W-3 looks like Marcus Wright Whaley was the person tested, and his ancestor was John Whaley. The Y-test results page shows the actual markers for persons W-1, W-2, and W-3. I counted the differences in the first 12 columns to get the 12-marker genetic distance for each pair per the instructions at: http://www.ysearch.org/help.asp?uid I get total differences using 12 markers of 7, 12, and 15. According to the instructions for interpreting a 12-market test, these Whaleys all have a most recent common ancestor thousands of years back, so each of these three is completely unrelated to the others. Is this the correct interpretation of the results? -Bob -----Original Message----- From: whaley-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:whaley-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 4:34 PM To: whaley@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WHALEY] DNA Interest List Issac Whaley, Can you post your DNA results on Family Tree DNA? If you need help, I will be glad to offer. Mike Whaley ----- Original Message ----- From: "Justin Whaley" <xypher9@gmail.com> To: <whaley@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 2:00 PM Subject: Re: [WHALEY] DNA Interest List > ***UPDATED*** > > The list of those itnerested in compiling and comparing DNA of the > numerous branches of the Whaley surname. > > Justin Whaley > Isaac Whaley -DTC > Linda Boehme -DTC (Richard W. Whaley) > Beverly Graham -NMS > Donald Whaley > Paul Whaley II > Roger Whaley > Mike Whaley -DTC > Gene Whaley > Adele Walenciak -NMS > John Whaley > > KEY: DTC= DNA Test Completed > NMS= Needs Male Source > > On 11/29/06, Justin Whaley <xypher9@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Let me go into a bit more detail. >> >> The list is for those who are interested in getting the Y-DNA37 test >> done. >> >> You will be responsible for the cost of getting your DNA test. If you >> cant >> afford it maybe we can come up with a way to make it affordable. >> >> Once we have a diverse enough sampling of DNA for the Whaley surname. >> Meaning at least one sample from some of the major branches of the Whaley >> surname me and anyone else who wishes to donate thier time will begin to >> look at how each of the families coorilate. >> >> This will be done by looking at how each family relates and this is told >> to us by the DNA lab we send our DNA into. >> >> We then use those coorilations to find out where we all branched out >> along the way. >> >> Once we begin to figure that out maybe some gaps and holes in some family >> line can be filled in by other lines with common descent. >> >> The possibilites and benefits are endless and I am a bit busy so I will >> not go into everything as of yet. >> >> >> On 11/29/06, Justin Whaley <xypher9@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> > Sorry if I led to confusion This list is for people interested in just >> > getting the test done. After you get the test done the company doing >> > the >> > testing compares the DNA to others in your DNA Project telling you who >> > is >> > related and how..... >> > >> > On 11/29/06, keith_w < keith_w@dslextreme.com> wrote: >> > > >> > > Justin Whaley wrote: >> > > > The list of those itnerested in compiling and comparing DNA of the >> > > numerous >> > > > branches of the Whaley surname. >> > > > >> > > > Justin Whaley >> > > > Isaac Whaley -DTC >> > > > Linda Boehme -NMS >> > > > Beverly Graham -NMS >> > > > Donald Whaley >> > > > Paul Whaley II >> > > > Roger Whaley >> > > > Mike Whaley -DTC >> > > > Gene Whaley >> > > > Adele Walenciak >> > > > >> > > > KEY: DTC= DNA Test Completed >> > > > NMS= Needs Male Source >> > > >> > > Uhhh, hold on here, Justin. >> > > You seem to be pretty fond of the word "compiling." >> > > Now you've just added it to another word, "comparing" which lends a >> > > new >> > > dimension to the task at hand. >> > > >> > > Compiling is merely drawing up a list, for some purpose. Plenty easy. >> > > >> > > Comparing means what? Comparing the DNA data you get back to someone >> > > else's DNA results? >> > > How does one do that? *I* can't do that! >> > > There are experts that are paid well to do that, not so? >> > > So why do you say those who are mentioned on this "DNA Interest List" >> > > are those who have agreed to "...compile and compare DNA of the >> > > various branches of the Whaley family." >> > > No. Not me. I know only what DNA is, generally speaking. >> > > I wouldn't have a clue as to how to perform any comparison >> > > analyses... >> > > >> > > That's for that expert of which I spoke. >> > > >> > > The DNA test will cost some specified amount, and that's only the >> > > beginning. >> > > Now you have to add the cost of whomever it is that will actually do >> > > the >> > > work of comparing all the individual DNA data that's gathered to each >> > > and every OTHER one. Not so? Otherwise, what good is it for anyone to >> > > have their DNA data extracted and recorded? >> > > >> > > Have you established what the work flow will be, and who the workers >> > > will be? And the ultimate cost of comparing the various DNA sample >> > > data >> > > to those on the list? >> > > >> > > In submitting my name to this compilation of yours, I merely agreed >> > > it >> > > would be a good idea, and said, "Sure. Count me in as a person >> > > interested in donationg his DNA for testing." >> > > Nothing else. >> > > >> > > So...who IS going to do the work, and what will it end up costing us? >> > > Who will be doing the sorting and mailing and emailing and performing >> > > the detailed comparisons required? >> > > >> > > Not me. I'm just a source. >> > > You or your assignee will be doing all the stuff in the above >> > > paragraph, for some to-be-agreed-upon fee. >> > > >> > > Once I know that, perhaps we can proceed. Not before that. >> > > >> > > Lots of clarification and elaboration needed. >> > > This nucleus must be expanded into a workable plan. >> > > >> > > * * * >> > > >> > > In the meanwhile, I'd almost forgotten about the "other" DNA >> > > comparison site Mike Whaley mentioned, at: >> > > >> > > http://worldfamilies.net/surnames/w/whaley/. >> > > >> > > I think I'll slip over and take a look at it again. That site is >> > > supposed to have already been established. If so, why start another? >> > > >> > > Later, >> > > >> > > keith whaley >> > > From Charles (Dale, N.Y.), Steven, Lucius Daniel, William Howard, Don >> > > Lucius (my dad.) >> > > >> > > ------------------------------- >> > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > > WHALEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Justin Whaley >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Justin Whaley >> > > > > -- > Justin Whaley > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WHALEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WHALEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WHALEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    11/29/2006 08:37:17
    1. Re: [WHALEY] DNA Test Price
    2. Mike
    3. If you don't do the testing as a group, it's $229 for the 37 Marker. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Justin Whaley" <xypher9@gmail.com> To: <whaley@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 12:23 PM Subject: Re: [WHALEY] DNA Test Price > Yes is there a different price than the one shown on familytreedna.com > Y-DNA37 -- Male 37 marker paternal test....$189 (Group) ? > > On 11/29/06, Mike <sosdrummer@comcast.net> wrote: >> >> Justin >> >> Are you getting my emails? >> >> Mike >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Justin Whaley" <xypher9@gmail.com> >> To: <WHALEY-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 10:35 AM >> Subject: [WHALEY] DNA Test Price >> >> >> > The testing price vfor the 37 marker test is $189 and that is the group >> > discounted price. >> > >> > You can visit the website to see what the DNA test is all about at. >> > >> > >> http://www.familytreedna.com/surname_join.asp?code=K70549&special=True&projecttype=S >> > >> > If you wish to immediately order your DNA test feel free. >> > >> > Otherwise we will need to figure out the best and most efficent way to >> > have >> > everyone get the test because I understand that the cost is steep. >> > >> > One such way is to split the cost between the members of your >> surrounding >> > family who would benifit from the results. Such and parents, >> > cousins.....etc. >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Justin Whaley >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > WHALEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> > in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> WHALEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > -- > Justin Whaley > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WHALEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

    11/29/2006 08:35:26
    1. Re: [WHALEY] DNA Interest List
    2. Justin Whaley
    3. Sounds good to me! :-) On 11/29/06, Carolyn Vosburg <lynvos@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > > Would it be helpful if those who are interested in this project would > put beside their name their oldest Whaley ancestor, so we can see > at a glance which branches are represented???? Just a thought. > > For instance: > > > Justin Whaley -WDT - James Whaley, Sr. md. Hannah Higgerson > > Linda Boehme -WDT/DTC (Richard W. Whaley)- John C. Whaley md. Matilda > > Collins > > Beverly Graham -NMS -William Whaley md Mary Renfro > > Etc., etc., etc. > > > Carolyn > > > On Nov 29, 2006, at 1:07 PM, Justin Whaley wrote: > > > ***UPDATED LIST*** > > > > The list of those itnterested in compiling and comparing DNA of the > > numerous > > branches of the Whaley surname. > > > > > > Isaac Whaley -DTC > > > > > > Donald Whaley > > Paul Whaley II > > Roger Whaley > > Mike Whaley -DTC > > Gene Whaley > > Adele Walenciak -NMS > > John Whaley > > > > KEY: DTC= DNA Test Completed > > NMS= Needs Male Source > > WDT= Will donate time > > On 11/29/06, Linda Boehme <lboehme@pacbell.net> wrote: > >> > >> Justin, > >> > >> I will be willing to donate some of my time to help with comparison or > >> correlation or anything else I can help you with. > >> > >> Linda Boehme > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: whaley-bounces@rootsweb.com > >> [mailto:whaley-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > >> Behalf Of Justin Whaley > >> Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 10:59 AM > >> To: whaley@rootsweb.com > >> Subject: Re: [WHALEY] DNA Interest List > >> > >> Let me go into a bit more detail. > >> > >> The list is for those who are interested in getting the Y-DNA37 test > >> done. > >> > >> You will be responsible for the cost of getting your DNA test. If you > >> cant > >> afford it maybe we can come up with a way to make it affordable. > >> > >> Once we have a diverse enough sampling of DNA for the Whaley surname. > >> Meaning at least one sample from some of the major branches of the > >> Whaley > >> surname me and anyone else who wishes to donate thier time will begin > >> to > >> look at how each of the families coorilate. > >> > >> This will be done by looking at how each family relates and this is > >> told > >> to > >> us by the DNA lab we send our DNA into. > >> > >> We then use those coorilations to find out where we all branched out > >> along > >> the way. > >> > >> Once we begin to figure that out maybe some gaps and holes in some > >> family > >> line can be filled in by other lines with common descent. > >> > >> The possibilites and benefits are endless and I am a bit busy so I > >> will > >> not > >> go into everything as of yet. > >> > >> > >> On 11/29/06, Justin Whaley <xypher9@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> Sorry if I led to confusion This list is for people interested in > >>> just > >>> getting the test done. After you get the test done the company doing > >>> the testing compares the DNA to others in your DNA Project telling > >>> you > >>> who is related and how..... > >>> > >>> On 11/29/06, keith_w <keith_w@dslextreme.com> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Justin Whaley wrote: > >>>>> The list of those itnerested in compiling and comparing DNA of the > >>>> numerous > >>>>> branches of the Whaley surname. > >>>>> > >>>>> Justin Whaley > >>>>> Isaac Whaley -DTC > >>>>> Linda Boehme -NMS > >>>>> Beverly Graham -NMS > >>>>> Donald Whaley > >>>>> Paul Whaley II > >>>>> Roger Whaley > >>>>> Mike Whaley -DTC > >>>>> Gene Whaley > >>>>> Adele Walenciak > >>>>> > >>>>> KEY: DTC= DNA Test Completed > >>>>> NMS= Needs Male Source > >>>> > >>>> Uhhh, hold on here, Justin. > >>>> You seem to be pretty fond of the word "compiling." > >>>> Now you've just added it to another word, "comparing" which lends a > >>>> new dimension to the task at hand. > >>>> > >>>> Compiling is merely drawing up a list, for some purpose. Plenty > >>>> easy. > >>>> > >>>> Comparing means what? Comparing the DNA data you get back to someone > >>>> else's DNA results? > >>>> How does one do that? *I* can't do that! > >>>> There are experts that are paid well to do that, not so? > >>>> So why do you say those who are mentioned on this "DNA Interest > >>>> List" > >>>> are those who have agreed to "...compile and compare DNA of the > >>>> various branches of the Whaley family." > >>>> No. Not me. I know only what DNA is, generally speaking. > >>>> I wouldn't have a clue as to how to perform any comparison > >>>> analyses... > >>>> > >>>> That's for that expert of which I spoke. > >>>> > >>>> The DNA test will cost some specified amount, and that's only the > >>>> beginning. > >>>> Now you have to add the cost of whomever it is that will actually do > >>>> the > >>>> > >>>> work of comparing all the individual DNA data that's gathered to > >>>> each and every OTHER one. Not so? Otherwise, what good is it for > >>>> anyone to have their DNA data extracted and recorded? > >>>> > >>>> Have you established what the work flow will be, and who the workers > >>>> will be? And the ultimate cost of comparing the various DNA sample > >>>> data to those on the list? > >>>> > >>>> In submitting my name to this compilation of yours, I merely agreed > >>>> it would be a good idea, and said, "Sure. Count me in as a person > >>>> interested in donationg his DNA for testing." > >>>> Nothing else. > >>>> > >>>> So...who IS going to do the work, and what will it end up costing > >>>> us? > >>>> Who will be doing the sorting and mailing and emailing and > >>>> performing the detailed comparisons required? > >>>> > >>>> Not me. I'm just a source. > >>>> You or your assignee will be doing all the stuff in the above > >>>> paragraph, for some to-be-agreed-upon fee. > >>>> > >>>> Once I know that, perhaps we can proceed. Not before that. > >>>> > >>>> Lots of clarification and elaboration needed. > >>>> This nucleus must be expanded into a workable plan. > >>>> > >>>> * * * > >>>> > >>>> In the meanwhile, I'd almost forgotten about the "other" DNA > >>>> comparison site Mike Whaley mentioned, at: > >>>> > >>>> http://worldfamilies.net/surnames/w/whaley/. > >>>> > >>>> I think I'll slip over and take a look at it again. That site is > >>>> supposed to have already been established. If so, why start another? > >>>> > >>>> Later, > >>>> > >>>> keith whaley > >>>> From Charles (Dale, N.Y.), Steven, Lucius Daniel, William Howard, > >>>> Don Lucius (my dad.) > >>>> > >>>> ------------------------------- > >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >>>> WHALEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Justin Whaley > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Justin Whaley > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> WHALEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes > >> in the subject and the body of the message > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> WHALEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes > >> in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Justin Whaley > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > WHALEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WHALEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > -- Justin Whaley

    11/29/2006 08:24:03
    1. Re: [WHALEY] DNA Interest List
    2. Justin Whaley
    3. ***UPDATED LIST*** The list of those itnterested in compiling and comparing DNA of the numerous branches of the Whaley surname. Justin Whaley -WDT Isaac Whaley -DTC Linda Boehme -WDT/DTC (Richard W. Whaley) Beverly Graham -NMS Donald Whaley Paul Whaley II Roger Whaley Mike Whaley -DTC Gene Whaley Adele Walenciak -NMS John Whaley KEY: DTC= DNA Test Completed NMS= Needs Male Source WDT= Will donate time On 11/29/06, Linda Boehme <lboehme@pacbell.net> wrote: > > Justin, > > I will be willing to donate some of my time to help with comparison or > correlation or anything else I can help you with. > > Linda Boehme > > -----Original Message----- > From: whaley-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:whaley-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Justin Whaley > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 10:59 AM > To: whaley@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [WHALEY] DNA Interest List > > Let me go into a bit more detail. > > The list is for those who are interested in getting the Y-DNA37 test done. > > You will be responsible for the cost of getting your DNA test. If you cant > afford it maybe we can come up with a way to make it affordable. > > Once we have a diverse enough sampling of DNA for the Whaley surname. > Meaning at least one sample from some of the major branches of the Whaley > surname me and anyone else who wishes to donate thier time will begin to > look at how each of the families coorilate. > > This will be done by looking at how each family relates and this is told > to > us by the DNA lab we send our DNA into. > > We then use those coorilations to find out where we all branched out along > the way. > > Once we begin to figure that out maybe some gaps and holes in some family > line can be filled in by other lines with common descent. > > The possibilites and benefits are endless and I am a bit busy so I will > not > go into everything as of yet. > > > On 11/29/06, Justin Whaley <xypher9@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Sorry if I led to confusion This list is for people interested in just > > getting the test done. After you get the test done the company doing > > the testing compares the DNA to others in your DNA Project telling you > > who is related and how..... > > > > On 11/29/06, keith_w <keith_w@dslextreme.com> wrote: > > > > > > Justin Whaley wrote: > > > > The list of those itnerested in compiling and comparing DNA of the > > > numerous > > > > branches of the Whaley surname. > > > > > > > > Justin Whaley > > > > Isaac Whaley -DTC > > > > Linda Boehme -NMS > > > > Beverly Graham -NMS > > > > Donald Whaley > > > > Paul Whaley II > > > > Roger Whaley > > > > Mike Whaley -DTC > > > > Gene Whaley > > > > Adele Walenciak > > > > > > > > KEY: DTC= DNA Test Completed > > > > NMS= Needs Male Source > > > > > > Uhhh, hold on here, Justin. > > > You seem to be pretty fond of the word "compiling." > > > Now you've just added it to another word, "comparing" which lends a > > > new dimension to the task at hand. > > > > > > Compiling is merely drawing up a list, for some purpose. Plenty easy. > > > > > > Comparing means what? Comparing the DNA data you get back to someone > > > else's DNA results? > > > How does one do that? *I* can't do that! > > > There are experts that are paid well to do that, not so? > > > So why do you say those who are mentioned on this "DNA Interest List" > > > are those who have agreed to "...compile and compare DNA of the > > > various branches of the Whaley family." > > > No. Not me. I know only what DNA is, generally speaking. > > > I wouldn't have a clue as to how to perform any comparison analyses... > > > > > > That's for that expert of which I spoke. > > > > > > The DNA test will cost some specified amount, and that's only the > > > beginning. > > > Now you have to add the cost of whomever it is that will actually do > > > the > > > > > > work of comparing all the individual DNA data that's gathered to > > > each and every OTHER one. Not so? Otherwise, what good is it for > > > anyone to have their DNA data extracted and recorded? > > > > > > Have you established what the work flow will be, and who the workers > > > will be? And the ultimate cost of comparing the various DNA sample > > > data to those on the list? > > > > > > In submitting my name to this compilation of yours, I merely agreed > > > it would be a good idea, and said, "Sure. Count me in as a person > > > interested in donationg his DNA for testing." > > > Nothing else. > > > > > > So...who IS going to do the work, and what will it end up costing us? > > > Who will be doing the sorting and mailing and emailing and > > > performing the detailed comparisons required? > > > > > > Not me. I'm just a source. > > > You or your assignee will be doing all the stuff in the above > > > paragraph, for some to-be-agreed-upon fee. > > > > > > Once I know that, perhaps we can proceed. Not before that. > > > > > > Lots of clarification and elaboration needed. > > > This nucleus must be expanded into a workable plan. > > > > > > * * * > > > > > > In the meanwhile, I'd almost forgotten about the "other" DNA > > > comparison site Mike Whaley mentioned, at: > > > > > > http://worldfamilies.net/surnames/w/whaley/. > > > > > > I think I'll slip over and take a look at it again. That site is > > > supposed to have already been established. If so, why start another? > > > > > > Later, > > > > > > keith whaley > > > From Charles (Dale, N.Y.), Steven, Lucius Daniel, William Howard, > > > Don Lucius (my dad.) > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > WHALEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Justin Whaley > > > > > > -- > Justin Whaley > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WHALEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WHALEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > -- Justin Whaley

    11/29/2006 07:07:30
    1. Re: [WHALEY] DNA Interest List
    2. Justin Whaley
    3. ***UPDATED*** The list of those itnerested in compiling and comparing DNA of the numerous branches of the Whaley surname. Justin Whaley Isaac Whaley -DTC Linda Boehme -DTC (Richard W. Whaley) Beverly Graham -NMS Donald Whaley Paul Whaley II Roger Whaley Mike Whaley -DTC Gene Whaley Adele Walenciak -NMS John Whaley KEY: DTC= DNA Test Completed NMS= Needs Male Source On 11/29/06, Justin Whaley <xypher9@gmail.com> wrote: > > Let me go into a bit more detail. > > The list is for those who are interested in getting the Y-DNA37 test done. > > You will be responsible for the cost of getting your DNA test. If you cant > afford it maybe we can come up with a way to make it affordable. > > Once we have a diverse enough sampling of DNA for the Whaley surname. > Meaning at least one sample from some of the major branches of the Whaley > surname me and anyone else who wishes to donate thier time will begin to > look at how each of the families coorilate. > > This will be done by looking at how each family relates and this is told > to us by the DNA lab we send our DNA into. > > We then use those coorilations to find out where we all branched out along > the way. > > Once we begin to figure that out maybe some gaps and holes in some family > line can be filled in by other lines with common descent. > > The possibilites and benefits are endless and I am a bit busy so I will > not go into everything as of yet. > > > On 11/29/06, Justin Whaley <xypher9@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Sorry if I led to confusion This list is for people interested in just > > getting the test done. After you get the test done the company doing the > > testing compares the DNA to others in your DNA Project telling you who is > > related and how..... > > > > On 11/29/06, keith_w < keith_w@dslextreme.com> wrote: > > > > > > Justin Whaley wrote: > > > > The list of those itnerested in compiling and comparing DNA of the > > > numerous > > > > branches of the Whaley surname. > > > > > > > > Justin Whaley > > > > Isaac Whaley -DTC > > > > Linda Boehme -NMS > > > > Beverly Graham -NMS > > > > Donald Whaley > > > > Paul Whaley II > > > > Roger Whaley > > > > Mike Whaley -DTC > > > > Gene Whaley > > > > Adele Walenciak > > > > > > > > KEY: DTC= DNA Test Completed > > > > NMS= Needs Male Source > > > > > > Uhhh, hold on here, Justin. > > > You seem to be pretty fond of the word "compiling." > > > Now you've just added it to another word, "comparing" which lends a > > > new > > > dimension to the task at hand. > > > > > > Compiling is merely drawing up a list, for some purpose. Plenty easy. > > > > > > Comparing means what? Comparing the DNA data you get back to someone > > > else's DNA results? > > > How does one do that? *I* can't do that! > > > There are experts that are paid well to do that, not so? > > > So why do you say those who are mentioned on this "DNA Interest List" > > > are those who have agreed to "...compile and compare DNA of the > > > various > > > branches of the Whaley family." > > > No. Not me. I know only what DNA is, generally speaking. > > > I wouldn't have a clue as to how to perform any comparison analyses... > > > > > > That's for that expert of which I spoke. > > > > > > The DNA test will cost some specified amount, and that's only the > > > beginning. > > > Now you have to add the cost of whomever it is that will actually do > > > the > > > work of comparing all the individual DNA data that's gathered to each > > > and every OTHER one. Not so? Otherwise, what good is it for anyone to > > > have their DNA data extracted and recorded? > > > > > > Have you established what the work flow will be, and who the workers > > > will be? And the ultimate cost of comparing the various DNA sample > > > data > > > to those on the list? > > > > > > In submitting my name to this compilation of yours, I merely agreed it > > > would be a good idea, and said, "Sure. Count me in as a person > > > interested in donationg his DNA for testing." > > > Nothing else. > > > > > > So...who IS going to do the work, and what will it end up costing us? > > > Who will be doing the sorting and mailing and emailing and performing > > > the detailed comparisons required? > > > > > > Not me. I'm just a source. > > > You or your assignee will be doing all the stuff in the above > > > paragraph, > > > for some to-be-agreed-upon fee. > > > > > > Once I know that, perhaps we can proceed. Not before that. > > > > > > Lots of clarification and elaboration needed. > > > This nucleus must be expanded into a workable plan. > > > > > > * * * > > > > > > In the meanwhile, I'd almost forgotten about the "other" DNA > > > comparison > > > site Mike Whaley mentioned, at: > > > > > > http://worldfamilies.net/surnames/w/whaley/. > > > > > > I think I'll slip over and take a look at it again. That site is > > > supposed to have already been established. If so, why start another? > > > > > > Later, > > > > > > keith whaley > > > From Charles (Dale, N.Y.), Steven, Lucius Daniel, William Howard, Don > > > Lucius (my dad.) > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > WHALEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Justin Whaley > > > > > > -- > Justin Whaley > -- Justin Whaley

    11/29/2006 07:00:20
    1. Re: [WHALEY] DNA Interest List
    2. Carolyn Vosburg
    3. Would it be helpful if those who are interested in this project would put beside their name their oldest Whaley ancestor, so we can see at a glance which branches are represented???? Just a thought. For instance: > Justin Whaley -WDT - James Whaley, Sr. md. Hannah Higgerson > Linda Boehme -WDT/DTC (Richard W. Whaley)- John C. Whaley md. Matilda > Collins > Beverly Graham -NMS -William Whaley md Mary Renfro Etc., etc., etc. Carolyn On Nov 29, 2006, at 1:07 PM, Justin Whaley wrote: > ***UPDATED LIST*** > > The list of those itnterested in compiling and comparing DNA of the > numerous > branches of the Whaley surname. > > > Isaac Whaley -DTC > > > Donald Whaley > Paul Whaley II > Roger Whaley > Mike Whaley -DTC > Gene Whaley > Adele Walenciak -NMS > John Whaley > > KEY: DTC= DNA Test Completed > NMS= Needs Male Source > WDT= Will donate time > On 11/29/06, Linda Boehme <lboehme@pacbell.net> wrote: >> >> Justin, >> >> I will be willing to donate some of my time to help with comparison or >> correlation or anything else I can help you with. >> >> Linda Boehme >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: whaley-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:whaley-bounces@rootsweb.com] On >> Behalf Of Justin Whaley >> Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 10:59 AM >> To: whaley@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [WHALEY] DNA Interest List >> >> Let me go into a bit more detail. >> >> The list is for those who are interested in getting the Y-DNA37 test >> done. >> >> You will be responsible for the cost of getting your DNA test. If you >> cant >> afford it maybe we can come up with a way to make it affordable. >> >> Once we have a diverse enough sampling of DNA for the Whaley surname. >> Meaning at least one sample from some of the major branches of the >> Whaley >> surname me and anyone else who wishes to donate thier time will begin >> to >> look at how each of the families coorilate. >> >> This will be done by looking at how each family relates and this is >> told >> to >> us by the DNA lab we send our DNA into. >> >> We then use those coorilations to find out where we all branched out >> along >> the way. >> >> Once we begin to figure that out maybe some gaps and holes in some >> family >> line can be filled in by other lines with common descent. >> >> The possibilites and benefits are endless and I am a bit busy so I >> will >> not >> go into everything as of yet. >> >> >> On 11/29/06, Justin Whaley <xypher9@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Sorry if I led to confusion This list is for people interested in >>> just >>> getting the test done. After you get the test done the company doing >>> the testing compares the DNA to others in your DNA Project telling >>> you >>> who is related and how..... >>> >>> On 11/29/06, keith_w <keith_w@dslextreme.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Justin Whaley wrote: >>>>> The list of those itnerested in compiling and comparing DNA of the >>>> numerous >>>>> branches of the Whaley surname. >>>>> >>>>> Justin Whaley >>>>> Isaac Whaley -DTC >>>>> Linda Boehme -NMS >>>>> Beverly Graham -NMS >>>>> Donald Whaley >>>>> Paul Whaley II >>>>> Roger Whaley >>>>> Mike Whaley -DTC >>>>> Gene Whaley >>>>> Adele Walenciak >>>>> >>>>> KEY: DTC= DNA Test Completed >>>>> NMS= Needs Male Source >>>> >>>> Uhhh, hold on here, Justin. >>>> You seem to be pretty fond of the word "compiling." >>>> Now you've just added it to another word, "comparing" which lends a >>>> new dimension to the task at hand. >>>> >>>> Compiling is merely drawing up a list, for some purpose. Plenty >>>> easy. >>>> >>>> Comparing means what? Comparing the DNA data you get back to someone >>>> else's DNA results? >>>> How does one do that? *I* can't do that! >>>> There are experts that are paid well to do that, not so? >>>> So why do you say those who are mentioned on this "DNA Interest >>>> List" >>>> are those who have agreed to "...compile and compare DNA of the >>>> various branches of the Whaley family." >>>> No. Not me. I know only what DNA is, generally speaking. >>>> I wouldn't have a clue as to how to perform any comparison >>>> analyses... >>>> >>>> That's for that expert of which I spoke. >>>> >>>> The DNA test will cost some specified amount, and that's only the >>>> beginning. >>>> Now you have to add the cost of whomever it is that will actually do >>>> the >>>> >>>> work of comparing all the individual DNA data that's gathered to >>>> each and every OTHER one. Not so? Otherwise, what good is it for >>>> anyone to have their DNA data extracted and recorded? >>>> >>>> Have you established what the work flow will be, and who the workers >>>> will be? And the ultimate cost of comparing the various DNA sample >>>> data to those on the list? >>>> >>>> In submitting my name to this compilation of yours, I merely agreed >>>> it would be a good idea, and said, "Sure. Count me in as a person >>>> interested in donationg his DNA for testing." >>>> Nothing else. >>>> >>>> So...who IS going to do the work, and what will it end up costing >>>> us? >>>> Who will be doing the sorting and mailing and emailing and >>>> performing the detailed comparisons required? >>>> >>>> Not me. I'm just a source. >>>> You or your assignee will be doing all the stuff in the above >>>> paragraph, for some to-be-agreed-upon fee. >>>> >>>> Once I know that, perhaps we can proceed. Not before that. >>>> >>>> Lots of clarification and elaboration needed. >>>> This nucleus must be expanded into a workable plan. >>>> >>>> * * * >>>> >>>> In the meanwhile, I'd almost forgotten about the "other" DNA >>>> comparison site Mike Whaley mentioned, at: >>>> >>>> http://worldfamilies.net/surnames/w/whaley/. >>>> >>>> I think I'll slip over and take a look at it again. That site is >>>> supposed to have already been established. If so, why start another? >>>> >>>> Later, >>>> >>>> keith whaley >>>> From Charles (Dale, N.Y.), Steven, Lucius Daniel, William Howard, >>>> Don Lucius (my dad.) >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> WHALEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Justin Whaley >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Justin Whaley >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> WHALEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> WHALEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > -- > Justin Whaley > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WHALEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    11/29/2006 06:58:57
    1. Re: [WHALEY] DNA Interest List
    2. Justin Whaley
    3. Let me go into a bit more detail. The list is for those who are interested in getting the Y-DNA37 test done. You will be responsible for the cost of getting your DNA test. If you cant afford it maybe we can come up with a way to make it affordable. Once we have a diverse enough sampling of DNA for the Whaley surname. Meaning at least one sample from some of the major branches of the Whaley surname me and anyone else who wishes to donate thier time will begin to look at how each of the families coorilate. This will be done by looking at how each family relates and this is told to us by the DNA lab we send our DNA into. We then use those coorilations to find out where we all branched out along the way. Once we begin to figure that out maybe some gaps and holes in some family line can be filled in by other lines with common descent. The possibilites and benefits are endless and I am a bit busy so I will not go into everything as of yet. On 11/29/06, Justin Whaley <xypher9@gmail.com> wrote: > > Sorry if I led to confusion This list is for people interested in just > getting the test done. After you get the test done the company doing the > testing compares the DNA to others in your DNA Project telling you who is > related and how..... > > On 11/29/06, keith_w <keith_w@dslextreme.com> wrote: > > > > Justin Whaley wrote: > > > The list of those itnerested in compiling and comparing DNA of the > > numerous > > > branches of the Whaley surname. > > > > > > Justin Whaley > > > Isaac Whaley -DTC > > > Linda Boehme -NMS > > > Beverly Graham -NMS > > > Donald Whaley > > > Paul Whaley II > > > Roger Whaley > > > Mike Whaley -DTC > > > Gene Whaley > > > Adele Walenciak > > > > > > KEY: DTC= DNA Test Completed > > > NMS= Needs Male Source > > > > Uhhh, hold on here, Justin. > > You seem to be pretty fond of the word "compiling." > > Now you've just added it to another word, "comparing" which lends a new > > dimension to the task at hand. > > > > Compiling is merely drawing up a list, for some purpose. Plenty easy. > > > > Comparing means what? Comparing the DNA data you get back to someone > > else's DNA results? > > How does one do that? *I* can't do that! > > There are experts that are paid well to do that, not so? > > So why do you say those who are mentioned on this "DNA Interest List" > > are those who have agreed to "...compile and compare DNA of the various > > branches of the Whaley family." > > No. Not me. I know only what DNA is, generally speaking. > > I wouldn't have a clue as to how to perform any comparison analyses... > > > > That's for that expert of which I spoke. > > > > The DNA test will cost some specified amount, and that's only the > > beginning. > > Now you have to add the cost of whomever it is that will actually do the > > > > work of comparing all the individual DNA data that's gathered to each > > and every OTHER one. Not so? Otherwise, what good is it for anyone to > > have their DNA data extracted and recorded? > > > > Have you established what the work flow will be, and who the workers > > will be? And the ultimate cost of comparing the various DNA sample data > > to those on the list? > > > > In submitting my name to this compilation of yours, I merely agreed it > > would be a good idea, and said, "Sure. Count me in as a person > > interested in donationg his DNA for testing." > > Nothing else. > > > > So...who IS going to do the work, and what will it end up costing us? > > Who will be doing the sorting and mailing and emailing and performing > > the detailed comparisons required? > > > > Not me. I'm just a source. > > You or your assignee will be doing all the stuff in the above paragraph, > > for some to-be-agreed-upon fee. > > > > Once I know that, perhaps we can proceed. Not before that. > > > > Lots of clarification and elaboration needed. > > This nucleus must be expanded into a workable plan. > > > > * * * > > > > In the meanwhile, I'd almost forgotten about the "other" DNA comparison > > site Mike Whaley mentioned, at: > > > > http://worldfamilies.net/surnames/w/whaley/. > > > > I think I'll slip over and take a look at it again. That site is > > supposed to have already been established. If so, why start another? > > > > Later, > > > > keith whaley > > From Charles (Dale, N.Y.), Steven, Lucius Daniel, William Howard, Don > > Lucius (my dad.) > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > WHALEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > -- > Justin Whaley > -- Justin Whaley

    11/29/2006 06:58:43
    1. Re: [WHALEY] DNA Interest List
    2. Justin Whaley
    3. Sorry if I led to confusion This list is for people interested in just getting the test done. After you get the test done the company doing the testing compares the DNA to others in your DNA Project telling you who is related and how..... On 11/29/06, keith_w <keith_w@dslextreme.com> wrote: > > Justin Whaley wrote: > > The list of those itnerested in compiling and comparing DNA of the > numerous > > branches of the Whaley surname. > > > > Justin Whaley > > Isaac Whaley -DTC > > Linda Boehme -NMS > > Beverly Graham -NMS > > Donald Whaley > > Paul Whaley II > > Roger Whaley > > Mike Whaley -DTC > > Gene Whaley > > Adele Walenciak > > > > KEY: DTC= DNA Test Completed > > NMS= Needs Male Source > > Uhhh, hold on here, Justin. > You seem to be pretty fond of the word "compiling." > Now you've just added it to another word, "comparing" which lends a new > dimension to the task at hand. > > Compiling is merely drawing up a list, for some purpose. Plenty easy. > > Comparing means what? Comparing the DNA data you get back to someone > else's DNA results? > How does one do that? *I* can't do that! > There are experts that are paid well to do that, not so? > So why do you say those who are mentioned on this "DNA Interest List" > are those who have agreed to "...compile and compare DNA of the various > branches of the Whaley family." > No. Not me. I know only what DNA is, generally speaking. > I wouldn't have a clue as to how to perform any comparison analyses... > > That's for that expert of which I spoke. > > The DNA test will cost some specified amount, and that's only the > beginning. > Now you have to add the cost of whomever it is that will actually do the > work of comparing all the individual DNA data that's gathered to each > and every OTHER one. Not so? Otherwise, what good is it for anyone to > have their DNA data extracted and recorded? > > Have you established what the work flow will be, and who the workers > will be? And the ultimate cost of comparing the various DNA sample data > to those on the list? > > In submitting my name to this compilation of yours, I merely agreed it > would be a good idea, and said, "Sure. Count me in as a person > interested in donationg his DNA for testing." > Nothing else. > > So...who IS going to do the work, and what will it end up costing us? > Who will be doing the sorting and mailing and emailing and performing > the detailed comparisons required? > > Not me. I'm just a source. > You or your assignee will be doing all the stuff in the above paragraph, > for some to-be-agreed-upon fee. > > Once I know that, perhaps we can proceed. Not before that. > > Lots of clarification and elaboration needed. > This nucleus must be expanded into a workable plan. > > * * * > > In the meanwhile, I'd almost forgotten about the "other" DNA comparison > site Mike Whaley mentioned, at: > > http://worldfamilies.net/surnames/w/whaley/. > > I think I'll slip over and take a look at it again. That site is > supposed to have already been established. If so, why start another? > > Later, > > keith whaley > From Charles (Dale, N.Y.), Steven, Lucius Daniel, William Howard, Don > Lucius (my dad.) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WHALEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > -- Justin Whaley

    11/29/2006 06:50:13
    1. Re: [WHALEY] DNA Interest List
    2. Linda Boehme
    3. Correction: (no middle initial C for John) Linda Boehme - WDT/DTC (Richard W. Whaley) - John Whaley VT m. Matilda Collins NY Linda Boehme -----Original Message----- From: whaley-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:whaley-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Justin Whaley Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 12:24 PM To: whaley@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WHALEY] DNA Interest List Sounds good to me! :-) On 11/29/06, Carolyn Vosburg <lynvos@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > > Would it be helpful if those who are interested in this project would > put beside their name their oldest Whaley ancestor, so we can see at a > glance which branches are represented???? Just a thought. > > For instance: > > > Justin Whaley -WDT - James Whaley, Sr. md. Hannah Higgerson Linda > > Boehme -WDT/DTC (Richard W. Whaley)- John C. Whaley md. Matilda > > Collins Beverly Graham -NMS -William Whaley md Mary Renfro > > Etc., etc., etc. > > > Carolyn > > > On Nov 29, 2006, at 1:07 PM, Justin Whaley wrote: > > > ***UPDATED LIST*** > > > > The list of those itnterested in compiling and comparing DNA of the > > numerous branches of the Whaley surname. > > > > > > Isaac Whaley -DTC > > > > > > Donald Whaley > > Paul Whaley II > > Roger Whaley > > Mike Whaley -DTC > > Gene Whaley > > Adele Walenciak -NMS > > John Whaley > > > > KEY: DTC= DNA Test Completed > > NMS= Needs Male Source > > WDT= Will donate time > > On 11/29/06, Linda Boehme <lboehme@pacbell.net> wrote: > >> > >> Justin, > >> > >> I will be willing to donate some of my time to help with comparison > >> or correlation or anything else I can help you with. > >> > >> Linda Boehme > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: whaley-bounces@rootsweb.com > >> [mailto:whaley-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Justin Whaley > >> Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 10:59 AM > >> To: whaley@rootsweb.com > >> Subject: Re: [WHALEY] DNA Interest List > >> > >> Let me go into a bit more detail. > >> > >> The list is for those who are interested in getting the Y-DNA37 > >> test done. > >> > >> You will be responsible for the cost of getting your DNA test. If > >> you cant afford it maybe we can come up with a way to make it > >> affordable. > >> > >> Once we have a diverse enough sampling of DNA for the Whaley surname. > >> Meaning at least one sample from some of the major branches of the > >> Whaley surname me and anyone else who wishes to donate thier time > >> will begin to look at how each of the families coorilate. > >> > >> This will be done by looking at how each family relates and this is > >> told to us by the DNA lab we send our DNA into. > >> > >> We then use those coorilations to find out where we all branched > >> out along the way. > >> > >> Once we begin to figure that out maybe some gaps and holes in some > >> family line can be filled in by other lines with common descent. > >> > >> The possibilites and benefits are endless and I am a bit busy so I > >> will not go into everything as of yet. > >> > >> > >> On 11/29/06, Justin Whaley <xypher9@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> Sorry if I led to confusion This list is for people interested in > >>> just getting the test done. After you get the test done the > >>> company doing the testing compares the DNA to others in your DNA > >>> Project telling you who is related and how..... > >>> > >>> On 11/29/06, keith_w <keith_w@dslextreme.com> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Justin Whaley wrote: > >>>>> The list of those itnerested in compiling and comparing DNA of > >>>>> the > >>>> numerous > >>>>> branches of the Whaley surname. > >>>>> > >>>>> Justin Whaley > >>>>> Isaac Whaley -DTC > >>>>> Linda Boehme -NMS > >>>>> Beverly Graham -NMS > >>>>> Donald Whaley > >>>>> Paul Whaley II > >>>>> Roger Whaley > >>>>> Mike Whaley -DTC > >>>>> Gene Whaley > >>>>> Adele Walenciak > >>>>> > >>>>> KEY: DTC= DNA Test Completed > >>>>> NMS= Needs Male Source > >>>> > >>>> Uhhh, hold on here, Justin. > >>>> You seem to be pretty fond of the word "compiling." > >>>> Now you've just added it to another word, "comparing" which lends > >>>> a new dimension to the task at hand. > >>>> > >>>> Compiling is merely drawing up a list, for some purpose. Plenty > >>>> easy. > >>>> > >>>> Comparing means what? Comparing the DNA data you get back to > >>>> someone else's DNA results? > >>>> How does one do that? *I* can't do that! > >>>> There are experts that are paid well to do that, not so? > >>>> So why do you say those who are mentioned on this "DNA Interest > >>>> List" > >>>> are those who have agreed to "...compile and compare DNA of the > >>>> various branches of the Whaley family." > >>>> No. Not me. I know only what DNA is, generally speaking. > >>>> I wouldn't have a clue as to how to perform any comparison > >>>> analyses... > >>>> > >>>> That's for that expert of which I spoke. > >>>> > >>>> The DNA test will cost some specified amount, and that's only the > >>>> beginning. > >>>> Now you have to add the cost of whomever it is that will actually > >>>> do the > >>>> > >>>> work of comparing all the individual DNA data that's gathered to > >>>> each and every OTHER one. Not so? Otherwise, what good is it for > >>>> anyone to have their DNA data extracted and recorded? > >>>> > >>>> Have you established what the work flow will be, and who the > >>>> workers will be? And the ultimate cost of comparing the various > >>>> DNA sample data to those on the list? > >>>> > >>>> In submitting my name to this compilation of yours, I merely > >>>> agreed it would be a good idea, and said, "Sure. Count me in as a > >>>> person interested in donationg his DNA for testing." > >>>> Nothing else. > >>>> > >>>> So...who IS going to do the work, and what will it end up costing > >>>> us? > >>>> Who will be doing the sorting and mailing and emailing and > >>>> performing the detailed comparisons required? > >>>> > >>>> Not me. I'm just a source. > >>>> You or your assignee will be doing all the stuff in the above > >>>> paragraph, for some to-be-agreed-upon fee. > >>>> > >>>> Once I know that, perhaps we can proceed. Not before that. > >>>> > >>>> Lots of clarification and elaboration needed. > >>>> This nucleus must be expanded into a workable plan. > >>>> > >>>> * * * > >>>> > >>>> In the meanwhile, I'd almost forgotten about the "other" DNA > >>>> comparison site Mike Whaley mentioned, at: > >>>> > >>>> http://worldfamilies.net/surnames/w/whaley/. > >>>> > >>>> I think I'll slip over and take a look at it again. That site is > >>>> supposed to have already been established. If so, why start another? > >>>> > >>>> Later, > >>>> > >>>> keith whaley > >>>> From Charles (Dale, N.Y.), Steven, Lucius Daniel, William Howard, > >>>> Don Lucius (my dad.) > >>>> > >>>> ------------------------------- > >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >>>> WHALEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > >>>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Justin Whaley > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Justin Whaley > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> WHALEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> WHALEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Justin Whaley > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > WHALEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WHALEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Justin Whaley ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WHALEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    11/29/2006 05:44:10
    1. Re: [WHALEY] DNA Interest List
    2. Justin Whaley
    3. ***UPDATED*** The list of those itnerested in compiling and comparing DNA of the numerous branches of the Whaley surname. Justin Whaley Isaac Whaley -DTC Linda Boehme -NMS Beverly Graham -NMS Donald Whaley Paul Whaley II Roger Whaley Mike Whaley -DTC Gene Whaley Adele Walenciak -NMS John Whaley KEY: DTC= DNA Test Completed NMS= Needs Male Source On 11/29/06, Justin Whaley <xypher9@gmail.com> wrote: > > Of course lets hope those doors arent rusted shut! > > On 11/29/06, Mike <sosdrummer@comcast.net> wrote: > > > > There is a Whaley DNA site already set up at > > http://worldfamilies.net/surnames/w/whaley/ > > If you go to this link you will get the group rate for DNA testing which > > is > > quite a bit less that getting individual testing. Also I have found out > > that > > it is best to go ahead and get the Y-DNA37 kit. It gives the most info > > for > > what we are doing. > > > > Thanks Justin for getting the ball rolling. If we do this, it will open > > a > > lot of doors.. > > > > Mike Whaley > > WFN Group Admin > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Justin Whaley" < xypher9@gmail.com> > > To: <WHALEY-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 10:29 AM > > Subject: [WHALEY] DNA Interest List > > > > > > > The list of those itnerested in compiling and comparing DNA of the > > > numerous > > > branches of the Whaley surname. > > > > > > Justin Whaley > > > Isaac Whaley -DTC > > > Linda Boehme -NMS > > > Beverly Graham -NMS > > > Donald Whaley > > > Paul Whaley II > > > Roger Whaley > > > Mike Whaley -DTC > > > Gene Whaley > > > Adele Walenciak > > > > > > KEY: DTC= DNA Test Completed > > > NMS= Needs Male Source > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Justin Whaley > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > WHALEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes > > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > WHALEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > -- > Justin Whaley > -- Justin Whaley

    11/29/2006 05:37:31
    1. Re: [WHALEY] DNA Test Price
    2. Justin Whaley
    3. Yes is there a different price than the one shown on familytreedna.com Y-DNA37 -- Male 37 marker paternal test....$189 (Group) ? On 11/29/06, Mike <sosdrummer@comcast.net> wrote: > > Justin > > Are you getting my emails? > > Mike > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Justin Whaley" <xypher9@gmail.com> > To: <WHALEY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 10:35 AM > Subject: [WHALEY] DNA Test Price > > > > The testing price vfor the 37 marker test is $189 and that is the group > > discounted price. > > > > You can visit the website to see what the DNA test is all about at. > > > > > http://www.familytreedna.com/surname_join.asp?code=K70549&special=True&projecttype=S > > > > If you wish to immediately order your DNA test feel free. > > > > Otherwise we will need to figure out the best and most efficent way to > > have > > everyone get the test because I understand that the cost is steep. > > > > One such way is to split the cost between the members of your > surrounding > > family who would benifit from the results. Such and parents, > > cousins.....etc. > > > > > > -- > > Justin Whaley > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > WHALEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WHALEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > -- Justin Whaley

    11/29/2006 05:23:46
    1. Re: [WHALEY] DNA Interest List
    2. Justin Whaley
    3. Of course lets hope those doors arent rusted shut! On 11/29/06, Mike <sosdrummer@comcast.net> wrote: > > There is a Whaley DNA site already set up at > http://worldfamilies.net/surnames/w/whaley/ > If you go to this link you will get the group rate for DNA testing which > is > quite a bit less that getting individual testing. Also I have found out > that > it is best to go ahead and get the Y-DNA37 kit. It gives the most info for > what we are doing. > > Thanks Justin for getting the ball rolling. If we do this, it will open a > lot of doors.. > > Mike Whaley > WFN Group Admin > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Justin Whaley" <xypher9@gmail.com> > To: <WHALEY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 10:29 AM > Subject: [WHALEY] DNA Interest List > > > > The list of those itnerested in compiling and comparing DNA of the > > numerous > > branches of the Whaley surname. > > > > Justin Whaley > > Isaac Whaley -DTC > > Linda Boehme -NMS > > Beverly Graham -NMS > > Donald Whaley > > Paul Whaley II > > Roger Whaley > > Mike Whaley -DTC > > Gene Whaley > > Adele Walenciak > > > > KEY: DTC= DNA Test Completed > > NMS= Needs Male Source > > > > > > -- > > Justin Whaley > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > WHALEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WHALEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > -- Justin Whaley

    11/29/2006 05:20:46
    1. Re: [WHALEY] DNA Test Price
    2. Mike
    3. Justin Are you getting my emails? Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Justin Whaley" <xypher9@gmail.com> To: <WHALEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 10:35 AM Subject: [WHALEY] DNA Test Price > The testing price vfor the 37 marker test is $189 and that is the group > discounted price. > > You can visit the website to see what the DNA test is all about at. > > http://www.familytreedna.com/surname_join.asp?code=K70549&special=True&projecttype=S > > If you wish to immediately order your DNA test feel free. > > Otherwise we will need to figure out the best and most efficent way to > have > everyone get the test because I understand that the cost is steep. > > One such way is to split the cost between the members of your surrounding > family who would benifit from the results. Such and parents, > cousins.....etc. > > > -- > Justin Whaley > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WHALEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

    11/29/2006 05:17:47
    1. Re: [WHALEY] DNA Interest List
    2. Carolyn Vosburg
    3. On Nov 29, 2006, at 10:10 AM, Mike wrote: > There is a Whaley DNA site already set up at > http://worldfamilies.net/surnames/w/whaley/ You can list your Pedigree Chart there with all of the men descendants from your oldest Whaley ancestor which will help! Carolyn > If you go to this link you will get the group rate for DNA testing > which is > quite a bit less that getting individual testing. Also I have found > out that > it is best to go ahead and get the Y-DNA37 kit. It gives the most info > for > what we are doing. > > Thanks Justin for getting the ball rolling. If we do this, it will > open a > lot of doors.. > > Mike Whaley > WFN Group Admin > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Justin Whaley" <xypher9@gmail.com> > To: <WHALEY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 10:29 AM > Subject: [WHALEY] DNA Interest List > > >> The list of those itnerested in compiling and comparing DNA of the >> numerous >> branches of the Whaley surname. >> >> Justin Whaley >> Isaac Whaley -DTC >> Linda Boehme -NMS >> Beverly Graham -NMS >> Donald Whaley >> Paul Whaley II >> Roger Whaley >> Mike Whaley -DTC >> Gene Whaley >> Adele Walenciak >> >> KEY: DTC= DNA Test Completed >> NMS= Needs Male Source >> >> >> -- >> Justin Whaley >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> WHALEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WHALEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    11/29/2006 04:44:45