On Nov 30, 2006, at 6:45 AM, a hartshorn wrote: > George Whaley b. 1731 Greenbriar VA. d. 1862 Jackson CO OH. Alberta, This is a NEW George to our oldest ancestor list. Perhaps someone else has this fellow in their tree along with his parents! We can always hope. : ) Do you have the name of his wife/wives to add to this? That might help folks narrow down their searching to find where he fits. C. Carolyn Whaley Vosburg WSP Instigator and First Den Mother! Houston, TX

I agree Linda and thanks for volunteering your time, and thank you too Carolyn for keeping this data safe and intact. I'm fairly new to the genealogy addiction. :) My grandmother planted the seed when I was very young and it has always been an interest but I didn't start digging until about 6 years ago. I'm 51 now and very interested in linking our Patriarchs with the new science and preserving the data for our children's children's children. Actually, I can create a special page for the Oldest Ancestor List and give ya'll (Carolyn & Linda) or whoever you designate, permission to write and change the data. We don't want but a couple or maybe one or 2 as backups to be able to change the data. Carolyn, Where is a copy of the Oldest Ancestor List? Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Boehme" <lboehme@pacbell.net> To: <sosdrummer@comcast.net>; "'Carolyn Vosburg'" <lynvos@sbcglobal.net> Cc: "'Whaley Search Party'" <WHALEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 11:37 AM Subject: Oldest Whaley Ancestor List > Mike & Carolyn, > > I remember Carolyn sending around a multi-part email of the Oldest Whaley > Ancestor List last year. Unfortunately, I didn't get every part of the > email so I don't have it all. I think Carolyn has the most up to date > information as she has graciously been keeping it up to date and safe all > these years. I think Mike said we could possibly post the list on the > Whaley DNA web site. I think that would be great. But I have a couple of > questions; Who is going to maintain the list and are we sure the web site > will still exist in 2 yrs or 30 yrs? I would like to help in any way I > can. > I work from home so I do have time to devote to this and the DNA project. > However, I'm almost 60 and I think we should work out some way to pass the > baton and to have multiple people in charge of this precious data. What > do > you to think? > > I'm sending this to Whaley Search Party list too to see if anyone else has > any input. > > Linda Whaley Boehme > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Wow! Necia, this is the first time I've seen that Robert md.Miles as another ancestor back from James, Sr. md. Elizabeth! How were you able to make that connection????? Share that with us if you have the time and inclination! There are lots of people listed as descendants under James and Elizabeth who would LOVE to be able to go back one more generation, I'm sure. : ) Carolyn On Nov 30, 2006, at 10:40 AM, necia wrote: > > Hi, > > I am curious if your info connects with mine. I have Robert Whaley m > Elizabeth Mills (Miles?). Coming down from there I have: > > Robert Whaley m Elizabeth Mills > James Whaley, Sr. m Elizabeth ? > James Whaley Jr. m. Lydia Ann Remey (I used him to get in DAR) > Elizabeth Whaley m. William Bernard Sears > Charles Lee Sears m. Elizabeth Worster > > But I have a note on Robert Whaley-Elizabeth Mills to be skeptical on > him and his ancestry. What source do you use for the ancestry of > Robert > (?Theophilus) Whaley? > > What I have, that does not equate Robert with Theophilus, came from > Claude > Flory on the Internet. He seems very knowledgeable and he questions > Robert=Theophilus. > > Claude has 12 more generations back from Robert Whaley-Elizabeth > Mills. I > found that info at: > > worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=caflory&id=I08534 > > Just curious on source. This seems to be an unanswerable question i.e > Robert and Theophilus. > > Thanks for any help you may give. > Cheers, > > Necia A. Black, Ph.D. e-mail: black@buffalo.edu > 246 Computing Center Web > URL:http://www.acsu.buffalo.edu/~black > SUNY-Buffalo > Buffalo, New York 14260 > > On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 Ninelakeview@cs.com wrote: > >> I am interested on results, etc. My mother's grandmother was >> Catherine > Whaley and it goes back to Elizabeth Miles and Robert ( Theophilus ) > Whaley. > If anyone is part of the Whaley's from Avon or Rochester area let me > know. > Good luck! >> >> Sandee Bennett >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WHALEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi, I am curious if your info connects with mine. I have Robert Whaley m Elizabeth Mills (Miles?). Coming down from there I have: Robert Whaley m Elizabeth Mills James Whaley, Sr. m Elizabeth ? James Whaley Jr. m. Lydia Ann Remey (I used him to get in DAR) Elizabeth Whaley m. William Bernard Sears Charles Lee Sears m. Elizabeth Worster But I have a note on Robert Whaley-Elizabeth Mills to be skeptical on him and his ancestry. What source do you use for the ancestry of Robert (?Theophilus) Whaley? What I have, that does not equate Robert with Theophilus, came from Claude Flory on the Internet. He seems very knowledgeable and he questions Robert=Theophilus. Claude has 12 more generations back from Robert Whaley-Elizabeth Mills. I found that info at: worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=caflory&id=I08534 Just curious on source. This seems to be an unanswerable question i.e Robert and Theophilus. Thanks for any help you may give. Cheers, Necia A. Black, Ph.D. e-mail: black@buffalo.edu 246 Computing Center Web URL:http://www.acsu.buffalo.edu/~black SUNY-Buffalo Buffalo, New York 14260 On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 Ninelakeview@cs.com wrote: > I am interested on results, etc. My mother's grandmother was Catherine Whaley and it goes back to Elizabeth Miles and Robert ( Theophilus ) Whaley. If anyone is part of the Whaley's from Avon or Rochester area let me know. Good luck! > > Sandee Bennett >

Carolyn, This George was on the oldest ancester list at one time. I do not know where to fing it now. his wife is Mary Catherine poss. Whaley last name. It would be great to find his parents. his son in my line is Abner b. 1783 VA d. 1866 Jackson CO OH his son Luke b. 1825 Jackson Co Oh his son my grandfather Andrew b. 1847 Jackson Co OH d. 1939 Athens CO OH married to Mary Elizabeth Whaley daughter of John Whaley b. 1830 son of Abner Whaley b. 1783 VA. thanks Alberta Carolyn Vosburg <lynvos@sbcglobal.net> wrote: On Nov 30, 2006, at 6:45 AM, a hartshorn wrote: > George Whaley b. 1731 Greenbriar VA. d. 1862 Jackson CO OH. Alberta, This is a NEW George to our oldest ancestor list. Perhaps someone else has this fellow in their tree along with his parents! We can always hope. : ) Do you have the name of his wife/wives to add to this? That might help folks narrow down their searching to find where he fits. C. Carolyn Whaley Vosburg WSP Instigator and First Den Mother! Houston, TX ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WHALEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business.

Once your DNA is tested. Family Tree DNA sends you the results and post them on Whaley DNA Project. Once you upload them to ysearch.org (All this is explained on the FamilyTreeDNA website) you can do a comparison with your login ID to the rest of the world! Not just other Whaley's. I do not get one red cent or kick backs from any group for this. I just happened to be the second person to ask for a DNA test and to be added to the Whaley Surname Project and Whaley DNA Project. This endeavor is to try and make connections where the paper trail falls short. As far as the logistics for analyzing all the data and who will be responsible; The good people at Family Tree DNA and Ysearch.org are extremely helpful in every aspect of DNA analysis. The laymen are not expected to know how to interpret the results. That is what you pay the lab to do. The more comprehensive the test, the better the data yielded. Please understand that I have no vested interest in getting people to have their DNA tested other than to see how our branches tie together or not. Respectfully, Mike Whaley ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hart, Bob - Global IT" <hart_bob@bah.com> To: <whaley@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 6:27 PM Subject: Re: [WHALEY] DNA Interest List > Greetings- > > I would like to be sure I am interpreting the DNA results > correctly. > > The descendant postings on FamilyTreeDNA under the Whaley > surname are here: http://worldfamilies.net/surnames/w/whaley/pats.html > > The actual Y-test results are here: > http://worldfamilies.net/surnames/w/whaley/results.html > > The first page seems to show that Y-results have been posted for > three people: > W-1 is not labeled, so I'm not sure who was tested, but > his ancestor was James Whaley, Sr. > W-2 looks like Charles M. Whaley was the person tested, > and his ancestor was George Powell Whaley, Sr. > W-3 looks like Marcus Wright Whaley was the person > tested, and his ancestor was John Whaley. > > The Y-test results page shows the actual markers for persons > W-1, W-2, and W-3. I counted the differences in the first 12 columns to > get the 12-marker genetic distance for each pair per the instructions > at: http://www.ysearch.org/help.asp?uid > > I get total differences using 12 markers of 7, 12, and 15. > According to the instructions for interpreting a 12-market test, these > Whaleys all have a most recent common ancestor thousands of years back, > so each of these three is completely unrelated to the others. > > Is this the correct interpretation of the results? > > -Bob > > -----Original Message----- > From: whaley-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:whaley-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Mike > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 4:34 PM > To: whaley@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [WHALEY] DNA Interest List > > Issac Whaley, > > Can you post your DNA results on Family Tree DNA? If you need help, I > will be glad to offer. > > Mike Whaley > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Justin Whaley" <xypher9@gmail.com> > To: <whaley@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 2:00 PM > Subject: Re: [WHALEY] DNA Interest List > > >> ***UPDATED*** >> >> The list of those itnerested in compiling and comparing DNA of the >> numerous >> branches of the Whaley surname. >> >> Justin Whaley >> Isaac Whaley -DTC >> Linda Boehme -DTC (Richard W. Whaley) >> Beverly Graham -NMS >> Donald Whaley >> Paul Whaley II >> Roger Whaley >> Mike Whaley -DTC >> Gene Whaley >> Adele Walenciak -NMS >> John Whaley >> >> KEY: DTC= DNA Test Completed >> NMS= Needs Male Source >> >> On 11/29/06, Justin Whaley <xypher9@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Let me go into a bit more detail. >>> >>> The list is for those who are interested in getting the Y-DNA37 test >>> done. >>> >>> You will be responsible for the cost of getting your DNA test. If you > >>> cant >>> afford it maybe we can come up with a way to make it affordable. >>> >>> Once we have a diverse enough sampling of DNA for the Whaley surname. >>> Meaning at least one sample from some of the major branches of the > Whaley >>> surname me and anyone else who wishes to donate thier time will begin > to >>> look at how each of the families coorilate. >>> >>> This will be done by looking at how each family relates and this is > told >>> to us by the DNA lab we send our DNA into. >>> >>> We then use those coorilations to find out where we all branched out >>> along >>> the way. >>> >>> Once we begin to figure that out maybe some gaps and holes in some > family >>> line can be filled in by other lines with common descent. >>> >>> The possibilites and benefits are endless and I am a bit busy so I > will >>> not go into everything as of yet. >>> >>> >>> On 11/29/06, Justin Whaley <xypher9@gmail.com> wrote: >>> > >>> > Sorry if I led to confusion This list is for people interested in > just >>> > getting the test done. After you get the test done the company > doing >>> > the >>> > testing compares the DNA to others in your DNA Project telling you > who >>> > is >>> > related and how..... >>> > >>> > On 11/29/06, keith_w < keith_w@dslextreme.com> wrote: >>> > > >>> > > Justin Whaley wrote: >>> > > > The list of those itnerested in compiling and comparing DNA of > the >>> > > numerous >>> > > > branches of the Whaley surname. >>> > > > >>> > > > Justin Whaley >>> > > > Isaac Whaley -DTC >>> > > > Linda Boehme -NMS >>> > > > Beverly Graham -NMS >>> > > > Donald Whaley >>> > > > Paul Whaley II >>> > > > Roger Whaley >>> > > > Mike Whaley -DTC >>> > > > Gene Whaley >>> > > > Adele Walenciak >>> > > > >>> > > > KEY: DTC= DNA Test Completed >>> > > > NMS= Needs Male Source >>> > > >>> > > Uhhh, hold on here, Justin. >>> > > You seem to be pretty fond of the word "compiling." >>> > > Now you've just added it to another word, "comparing" which lends > a >>> > > new >>> > > dimension to the task at hand. >>> > > >>> > > Compiling is merely drawing up a list, for some purpose. Plenty > easy. >>> > > >>> > > Comparing means what? Comparing the DNA data you get back to > someone >>> > > else's DNA results? >>> > > How does one do that? *I* can't do that! >>> > > There are experts that are paid well to do that, not so? >>> > > So why do you say those who are mentioned on this "DNA Interest > List" >>> > > are those who have agreed to "...compile and compare DNA of the >>> > > various >>> > > branches of the Whaley family." >>> > > No. Not me. I know only what DNA is, generally speaking. >>> > > I wouldn't have a clue as to how to perform any comparison >>> > > analyses... >>> > > >>> > > That's for that expert of which I spoke. >>> > > >>> > > The DNA test will cost some specified amount, and that's only the >>> > > beginning. >>> > > Now you have to add the cost of whomever it is that will actually > do >>> > > the >>> > > work of comparing all the individual DNA data that's gathered to > each >>> > > and every OTHER one. Not so? Otherwise, what good is it for > anyone to >>> > > have their DNA data extracted and recorded? >>> > > >>> > > Have you established what the work flow will be, and who the > workers >>> > > will be? And the ultimate cost of comparing the various DNA > sample >>> > > data >>> > > to those on the list? >>> > > >>> > > In submitting my name to this compilation of yours, I merely > agreed >>> > > it >>> > > would be a good idea, and said, "Sure. Count me in as a person >>> > > interested in donationg his DNA for testing." >>> > > Nothing else. >>> > > >>> > > So...who IS going to do the work, and what will it end up costing > us? >>> > > Who will be doing the sorting and mailing and emailing and > performing >>> > > the detailed comparisons required? >>> > > >>> > > Not me. I'm just a source. >>> > > You or your assignee will be doing all the stuff in the above >>> > > paragraph, >>> > > for some to-be-agreed-upon fee. >>> > > >>> > > Once I know that, perhaps we can proceed. Not before that. >>> > > >>> > > Lots of clarification and elaboration needed. >>> > > This nucleus must be expanded into a workable plan. >>> > > >>> > > * * * >>> > > >>> > > In the meanwhile, I'd almost forgotten about the "other" DNA >>> > > comparison >>> > > site Mike Whaley mentioned, at: >>> > > >>> > > http://worldfamilies.net/surnames/w/whaley/. >>> > > >>> > > I think I'll slip over and take a look at it again. That site is >>> > > supposed to have already been established. If so, why start > another? >>> > > >>> > > Later, >>> > > >>> > > keith whaley >>> > > From Charles (Dale, N.Y.), Steven, Lucius Daniel, William Howard, > Don >>> > > Lucius (my dad.) >>> > > >>> > > ------------------------------- >>> > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> > > WHALEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the >>> > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> > > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > -- >>> > Justin Whaley >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Justin Whaley >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Justin Whaley >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> WHALEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WHALEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WHALEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Keith, The pedigree page has info posted by the user or their family. The Patriarch page is compiled by whaleyadmin. It will become too large to manage with all living folks in it. Eventually, the Patriarchs page will be a huge multi-faceted Family Tree. The admin of World Family Networks just ask to keep the info on the Patriarchs page to individuals up to 1910 at this time. In no way is it meant to keep info from the hands of people who want or need it. Sorry for the confusing reply earlier, Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "keith_w" <keith_w@dslextreme.com> To: <whaley@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 9:28 PM Subject: Re: [WHALEY] DNA Interest List > Justin Whaley wrote: >> Its is up to those that gain that information to share it with those they >> wish. That is why we are all working together. > > Gotcha! > > keith > >> On 11/29/06, keith_w <keith_w@dslextreme.com> wrote: >>> sosdrummer@comcast.net wrote: >>>> Linda, >>>> >>>> That's who is listed on the results page. He was trying to interpret >>>> the >>> Patriarchs page and correlate it to the Results page. Richard's name >>> does >>> not appear on the Patriarchs page for privacy reasons. >>>> Mike > >>> Pardon me if this is out of line, or I simply don't understand it all, >>> but... >>> >>> What good is all this information to any observer if at every turn we >>> run across "Information withheld for privacy reasons." >>> If the info only goes back to you, it's a good thing for YOU, but not >>> worth much to anyone else... >>> >>> Just curious. >>> >>> keith whaley > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WHALEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Mike & Carolyn, I remember Carolyn sending around a multi-part email of the Oldest Whaley Ancestor List last year. Unfortunately, I didn't get every part of the email so I don't have it all. I think Carolyn has the most up to date information as she has graciously been keeping it up to date and safe all these years. I think Mike said we could possibly post the list on the Whaley DNA web site. I think that would be great. But I have a couple of questions; Who is going to maintain the list and are we sure the web site will still exist in 2 yrs or 30 yrs? I would like to help in any way I can. I work from home so I do have time to devote to this and the DNA project. However, I'm almost 60 and I think we should work out some way to pass the baton and to have multiple people in charge of this precious data. What do you to think? I'm sending this to Whaley Search Party list too to see if anyone else has any input. Linda Whaley Boehme

I am interested. Although I am female. will be looking forward to the results. Oldest relative is George Whaley b. 1731 Greenbriar VA. d. 1862 Jackson CO OH. My email has changed to berta60_2002@yahoo.com Thanks, Alberta Whaley Hartshorn Justin Whaley <xypher9@gmail.com> wrote: OK it seems we have some interest... Good.... If you read this and havn't expressed your interest please express it... Now we need to make sure those who have expressed thier interest are all from different branches of the Whaley surname. The easiest way to do this is if you know someone else that expressed interest that is a close relative please let us know. We only need one DNA sourch from each branch. For instance if you and your brother or even first cousin get the dna test done you both will have pretty much the same results so why waste the time and money on the second test. I will send out a compiled list of those interested in the next email along with the address to the DNA project website and the cost. I beleive we get a group discount if we order a certain amount of test done at once. Also if your a female and interested please find a male of close relation that would be willing to do the test. We need males for this test. Again please respond to this e-mail if you are interested or let a Whaley know who you think might be interested. On 11/29/06, Gene Whaley wrote: > > I am intrested. Please keep me informed. > > Gene Whaley whaleygh@yahoo.com > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Justin Whaley" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 9:58 AM > Subject: [WHALEY] CALLING ALL WHALEY's!!! > > > >I am taking a consensus on the probablity of having one Whaley from each > > family line giving a DNA sample for the effect of establishing a > credible > > Whaley' DNA project. The goal of the project would be to create a global > > Whaley family tree. By doing this we can use the research each one of > our > > families have accomplished to compare and contrast our heritage with the > > DNA. That way we can see how each of us truly relate and possibly break > > through some of those brick walls that I know almost all of us have hit. > > Who > > knows if we can get some Whaleys from over the pond in the U.K. and > > Ireland > > we can make the appropriate connections and delve our rich family > history > > back even further. > > > > Reply to this E-mail if you would be interested. along with your family > > line. If the interest is substantial I will dissemenate the information > > needed to get the process rolling. > > > > Regards, > > > > -- > > Justin Whaley > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > WHALEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WHALEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > -- Justin Whaley ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WHALEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business.

Linda, That's who is listed on the results page. He was trying to interpret the Patriarchs page and correlate it to the Results page. Richard's name does not appear on the Patriarchs page for privacy reasons. Mike -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Linda Boehme" <lboehme@pacbell.net> > Bob, > > I don't know about your final interpretation, but W-3 should be Richard W > Whaley (the person tested), the son of Marcus W Whaley whose oldest ancester > is John Whaley. > > Linda Whaley Boehme > > -----Original Message----- > From: whaley-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:whaley-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Hart, Bob - Global IT > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 3:28 PM > To: whaley@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [WHALEY] DNA Interest List > > Greetings- > > I would like to be sure I am interpreting the DNA results correctly. > > The descendant postings on FamilyTreeDNA under the Whaley surname > are here: http://worldfamilies.net/surnames/w/whaley/pats.html > > The actual Y-test results are here: > http://worldfamilies.net/surnames/w/whaley/results.html > > The first page seems to show that Y-results have been posted for > three people: > W-1 is not labeled, so I'm not sure who was tested, but his > ancestor was James Whaley, Sr. > W-2 looks like Charles M. Whaley was the person tested, and > his ancestor was George Powell Whaley, Sr. > W-3 looks like Marcus Wright Whaley was the person tested, > and his ancestor was John Whaley. > > The Y-test results page shows the actual markers for persons W-1, > W-2, and W-3. I counted the differences in the first 12 columns to get the > 12-marker genetic distance for each pair per the instructions > at: http://www.ysearch.org/help.asp?uid > > I get total differences using 12 markers of 7, 12, and 15. > According to the instructions for interpreting a 12-market test, these > Whaleys all have a most recent common ancestor thousands of years back, so > each of these three is completely unrelated to the others. > > Is this the correct interpretation of the results? > > -Bob > > -----Original Message----- > From: whaley-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:whaley-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Mike > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 4:34 PM > To: whaley@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [WHALEY] DNA Interest List > > Issac Whaley, > > Can you post your DNA results on Family Tree DNA? If you need help, I will > be glad to offer. > > Mike Whaley > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Justin Whaley" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 2:00 PM > Subject: Re: [WHALEY] DNA Interest List > > > > ***UPDATED*** > > > > The list of those itnerested in compiling and comparing DNA of the > > numerous branches of the Whaley surname. > > > > Justin Whaley > > Isaac Whaley -DTC > > Linda Boehme -DTC (Richard W. Whaley) > > Beverly Graham -NMS > > Donald Whaley > > Paul Whaley II > > Roger Whaley > > Mike Whaley -DTC > > Gene Whaley > > Adele Walenciak -NMS > > John Whaley > > > > KEY: DTC= DNA Test Completed > > NMS= Needs Male Source > > > > On 11/29/06, Justin Whaley wrote: > >> > >> Let me go into a bit more detail. > >> > >> The list is for those who are interested in getting the Y-DNA37 test > >> done. > >> > >> You will be responsible for the cost of getting your DNA test. If you > > >> cant > >> afford it maybe we can come up with a way to make it affordable. > >> > >> Once we have a diverse enough sampling of DNA for the Whaley surname. > >> Meaning at least one sample from some of the major branches of the > Whaley > >> surname me and anyone else who wishes to donate thier time will begin > to > >> look at how each of the families coorilate. > >> > >> This will be done by looking at how each family relates and this is > told > >> to us by the DNA lab we send our DNA into. > >> > >> We then use those coorilations to find out where we all branched out > >> along the way. > >> > >> Once we begin to figure that out maybe some gaps and holes in some > family > >> line can be filled in by other lines with common descent. > >> > >> The possibilites and benefits are endless and I am a bit busy so I > will > >> not go into everything as of yet. > >> > >> > >> On 11/29/06, Justin Whaley wrote: > >> > > >> > Sorry if I led to confusion This list is for people interested in > just > >> > getting the test done. After you get the test done the company > doing > >> > the > >> > testing compares the DNA to others in your DNA Project telling you > who > >> > is > >> > related and how..... > >> > > >> > On 11/29/06, keith_w < keith_w@dslextreme.com> wrote: > >> > > > >> > > Justin Whaley wrote: > >> > > > The list of those itnerested in compiling and comparing DNA of > the > >> > > numerous > >> > > > branches of the Whaley surname. > >> > > > > >> > > > Justin Whaley > >> > > > Isaac Whaley -DTC > >> > > > Linda Boehme -NMS > >> > > > Beverly Graham -NMS > >> > > > Donald Whaley > >> > > > Paul Whaley II > >> > > > Roger Whaley > >> > > > Mike Whaley -DTC > >> > > > Gene Whaley > >> > > > Adele Walenciak > >> > > > > >> > > > KEY: DTC= DNA Test Completed > >> > > > NMS= Needs Male Source > >> > > > >> > > Uhhh, hold on here, Justin. > >> > > You seem to be pretty fond of the word "compiling." > >> > > Now you've just added it to another word, "comparing" which lends > a > >> > > new > >> > > dimension to the task at hand. > >> > > > >> > > Compiling is merely drawing up a list, for some purpose. Plenty > easy. > >> > > > >> > > Comparing means what? Comparing the DNA data you get back to > someone > >> > > else's DNA results? > >> > > How does one do that? *I* can't do that! > >> > > There are experts that are paid well to do that, not so? > >> > > So why do you say those who are mentioned on this "DNA Interest > List" > >> > > are those who have agreed to "...compile and compare DNA of the > >> > > various branches of the Whaley family." > >> > > No. Not me. I know only what DNA is, generally speaking. > >> > > I wouldn't have a clue as to how to perform any comparison > >> > > analyses... > >> > > > >> > > That's for that expert of which I spoke. > >> > > > >> > > The DNA test will cost some specified amount, and that's only the > >> > > beginning. > >> > > Now you have to add the cost of whomever it is that will actually > do > >> > > the > >> > > work of comparing all the individual DNA data that's gathered to > each > >> > > and every OTHER one. Not so? Otherwise, what good is it for > anyone to > >> > > have their DNA data extracted and recorded? > >> > > > >> > > Have you established what the work flow will be, and who the > workers > >> > > will be? And the ultimate cost of comparing the various DNA > sample > >> > > data > >> > > to those on the list? > >> > > > >> > > In submitting my name to this compilation of yours, I merely > agreed > >> > > it > >> > > would be a good idea, and said, "Sure. Count me in as a person > >> > > interested in donationg his DNA for testing." > >> > > Nothing else. > >> > > > >> > > So...who IS going to do the work, and what will it end up costing > us? > >> > > Who will be doing the sorting and mailing and emailing and > performing > >> > > the detailed comparisons required? > >> > > > >> > > Not me. I'm just a source. > >> > > You or your assignee will be doing all the stuff in the above > >> > > paragraph, for some to-be-agreed-upon fee. > >> > > > >> > > Once I know that, perhaps we can proceed. Not before that. > >> > > > >> > > Lots of clarification and elaboration needed. > >> > > This nucleus must be expanded into a workable plan. > >> > > > >> > > * * * > >> > > > >> > > In the meanwhile, I'd almost forgotten about the "other" DNA > >> > > comparison site Mike Whaley mentioned, at: > >> > > > >> > > http://worldfamilies.net/surnames/w/whaley/. > >> > > > >> > > I think I'll slip over and take a look at it again. That site is > >> > > supposed to have already been established. If so, why start > another? > >> > > > >> > > Later, > >> > > > >> > > keith whaley > >> > > From Charles (Dale, N.Y.), Steven, Lucius Daniel, William Howard, > Don > >> > > Lucius (my dad.) > >> > > > >> > > ------------------------------- > >> > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> > > WHALEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > >> > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Justin Whaley > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Justin Whaley > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Justin Whaley > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > WHALEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WHALEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WHALEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WHALEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

Did your grandfather on the Whaley side have any brothers? Mike Whaley Whaley Surname Project Admin -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Pat Bryant" <hoosierlady@ameritech.net> > Hi Justin: > > I am interested in the DNA info, however, I know of no living male WHALEY in > our line. My father and his brother are both dead and both of them only had > daughters. Sounds like we are out of luck unless we find a lost cousin out > there who comes thru a male line. > > Pat Whaley Bryant > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WHALEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

Mike: YES!!! Grandpa WHALEY had a brother,Richard, who had a son named William. William died several years ago, but if memory serves me, I believe William had a son named Richard. I have no idea where he lives, but I will get out the phone book and try to find him. We knew very little about our WHALEY family since most of them died while we were very young. Most of my WHALEY contacts are the children/grandchildren of Granpa's sisters. Thanks for jolting some old memories. Pat (Whaley) Bryant > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 00:11:47 +0000 > From: sosdrummer@comcast.net > Subject: Re: [WHALEY] WHALEY Digest, Vol 1, Issue 14 > To: whaley@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <113020060011.4283.456E21C3000CCCAC000010BB22007456729D0A03039A9D0B9C019C@co mcast.net> > > Content-Type: text/plain > > Did your grandfather on the Whaley side have any brothers? > > Mike Whaley > > Whaley Surname Project Admin > > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: "Pat Bryant" <hoosierlady@ameritech.net> > > > Hi Justin: > > > > I am interested in the DNA info, however, I know of no living male WHALEY in > > our line. My father and his brother are both dead and both of them only had > > daughters. Sounds like we are out of luck unless we find a lost cousin out > > there who comes thru a male line. > > > > Pat Whaley Bryant > >

Hi Bob, I'm Mike Whaley, admin for the Whaley Surname Project, You are right, none of the 3 tested are related but we hope to change that with more people getting tested. The first person (James Sr.) listed on the Patriarch page has not been tested. Once they are they will be assigned a W#. Anyone can post their pedigree and I will post it to the Patriarchs page tested or not. The Results page is people who have been tested. W-1 was tested a long time before I got involved with World Family Networks and Family Tree DNA. I have had no contact with him. He is not listed on the Patriarchs page. No one born after 1910 is listed on the Patriarchs page for confidentiality of living individuals. I am just a voluteer to help this DNA testing come together. I am also the Whaley whose line is from George Powell b. 1775 SC. W-2. I hope it's not too confusing but we didn't want people to post only if they bought a test kit. W-4 will be posted to the Pedigree and Patriarch page as soon as he sends in his info. Mike Whaley -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Hart, Bob - Global IT" <hart_bob@bah.com> > Greetings- > > I would like to be sure I am interpreting the DNA results > correctly. > > The descendant postings on FamilyTreeDNA under the Whaley > surname are here: http://worldfamilies.net/surnames/w/whaley/pats.html > > The actual Y-test results are here: > http://worldfamilies.net/surnames/w/whaley/results.html > > The first page seems to show that Y-results have been posted for > three people: > W-1 is not labeled, so I'm not sure who was tested, but > his ancestor was James Whaley, Sr. > W-2 looks like Charles M. Whaley was the person tested, > and his ancestor was George Powell Whaley, Sr. > W-3 looks like Marcus Wright Whaley was the person > tested, and his ancestor was John Whaley. > > The Y-test results page shows the actual markers for persons > W-1, W-2, and W-3. I counted the differences in the first 12 columns to > get the 12-marker genetic distance for each pair per the instructions > at: http://www.ysearch.org/help.asp?uid > > I get total differences using 12 markers of 7, 12, and 15. > According to the instructions for interpreting a 12-market test, these > Whaleys all have a most recent common ancestor thousands of years back, > so each of these three is completely unrelated to the others. > > Is this the correct interpretation of the results? > > -Bob > > -----Original Message----- > From: whaley-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:whaley-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Mike > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 4:34 PM > To: whaley@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [WHALEY] DNA Interest List > > Issac Whaley, > > Can you post your DNA results on Family Tree DNA? If you need help, I > will be glad to offer. > > Mike Whaley > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Justin Whaley" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 2:00 PM > Subject: Re: [WHALEY] DNA Interest List > > > > ***UPDATED*** > > > > The list of those itnerested in compiling and comparing DNA of the > > numerous > > branches of the Whaley surname. > > > > Justin Whaley > > Isaac Whaley -DTC > > Linda Boehme -DTC (Richard W. Whaley) > > Beverly Graham -NMS > > Donald Whaley > > Paul Whaley II > > Roger Whaley > > Mike Whaley -DTC > > Gene Whaley > > Adele Walenciak -NMS > > John Whaley > > > > KEY: DTC= DNA Test Completed > > NMS= Needs Male Source > > > > On 11/29/06, Justin Whaley wrote: > >> > >> Let me go into a bit more detail. > >> > >> The list is for those who are interested in getting the Y-DNA37 test > >> done. > >> > >> You will be responsible for the cost of getting your DNA test. If you > > >> cant > >> afford it maybe we can come up with a way to make it affordable. > >> > >> Once we have a diverse enough sampling of DNA for the Whaley surname. > >> Meaning at least one sample from some of the major branches of the > Whaley > >> surname me and anyone else who wishes to donate thier time will begin > to > >> look at how each of the families coorilate. > >> > >> This will be done by looking at how each family relates and this is > told > >> to us by the DNA lab we send our DNA into. > >> > >> We then use those coorilations to find out where we all branched out > >> along > >> the way. > >> > >> Once we begin to figure that out maybe some gaps and holes in some > family > >> line can be filled in by other lines with common descent. > >> > >> The possibilites and benefits are endless and I am a bit busy so I > will > >> not go into everything as of yet. > >> > >> > >> On 11/29/06, Justin Whaley wrote: > >> > > >> > Sorry if I led to confusion This list is for people interested in > just > >> > getting the test done. After you get the test done the company > doing > >> > the > >> > testing compares the DNA to others in your DNA Project telling you > who > >> > is > >> > related and how..... > >> > > >> > On 11/29/06, keith_w < keith_w@dslextreme.com> wrote: > >> > > > >> > > Justin Whaley wrote: > >> > > > The list of those itnerested in compiling and comparing DNA of > the > >> > > numerous > >> > > > branches of the Whaley surname. > >> > > > > >> > > > Justin Whaley > >> > > > Isaac Whaley -DTC > >> > > > Linda Boehme -NMS > >> > > > Beverly Graham -NMS > >> > > > Donald Whaley > >> > > > Paul Whaley II > >> > > > Roger Whaley > >> > > > Mike Whaley -DTC > >> > > > Gene Whaley > >> > > > Adele Walenciak > >> > > > > >> > > > KEY: DTC= DNA Test Completed > >> > > > NMS= Needs Male Source > >> > > > >> > > Uhhh, hold on here, Justin. > >> > > You seem to be pretty fond of the word "compiling." > >> > > Now you've just added it to another word, "comparing" which lends > a > >> > > new > >> > > dimension to the task at hand. > >> > > > >> > > Compiling is merely drawing up a list, for some purpose. Plenty > easy. > >> > > > >> > > Comparing means what? Comparing the DNA data you get back to > someone > >> > > else's DNA results? > >> > > How does one do that? *I* can't do that! > >> > > There are experts that are paid well to do that, not so? > >> > > So why do you say those who are mentioned on this "DNA Interest > List" > >> > > are those who have agreed to "...compile and compare DNA of the > >> > > various > >> > > branches of the Whaley family." > >> > > No. Not me. I know only what DNA is, generally speaking. > >> > > I wouldn't have a clue as to how to perform any comparison > >> > > analyses... > >> > > > >> > > That's for that expert of which I spoke. > >> > > > >> > > The DNA test will cost some specified amount, and that's only the > >> > > beginning. > >> > > Now you have to add the cost of whomever it is that will actually > do > >> > > the > >> > > work of comparing all the individual DNA data that's gathered to > each > >> > > and every OTHER one. Not so? Otherwise, what good is it for > anyone to > >> > > have their DNA data extracted and recorded? > >> > > > >> > > Have you established what the work flow will be, and who the > workers > >> > > will be? And the ultimate cost of comparing the various DNA > sample > >> > > data > >> > > to those on the list? > >> > > > >> > > In submitting my name to this compilation of yours, I merely > agreed > >> > > it > >> > > would be a good idea, and said, "Sure. Count me in as a person > >> > > interested in donationg his DNA for testing." > >> > > Nothing else. > >> > > > >> > > So...who IS going to do the work, and what will it end up costing > us? > >> > > Who will be doing the sorting and mailing and emailing and > performing > >> > > the detailed comparisons required? > >> > > > >> > > Not me. I'm just a source. > >> > > You or your assignee will be doing all the stuff in the above > >> > > paragraph, > >> > > for some to-be-agreed-upon fee. > >> > > > >> > > Once I know that, perhaps we can proceed. Not before that. > >> > > > >> > > Lots of clarification and elaboration needed. > >> > > This nucleus must be expanded into a workable plan. > >> > > > >> > > * * * > >> > > > >> > > In the meanwhile, I'd almost forgotten about the "other" DNA > >> > > comparison > >> > > site Mike Whaley mentioned, at: > >> > > > >> > > http://worldfamilies.net/surnames/w/whaley/. > >> > > > >> > > I think I'll slip over and take a look at it again. That site is > >> > > supposed to have already been established. If so, why start > another? > >> > > > >> > > Later, > >> > > > >> > > keith whaley > >> > > From Charles (Dale, N.Y.), Steven, Lucius Daniel, William Howard, > Don > >> > > Lucius (my dad.) > >> > > > >> > > ------------------------------- > >> > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> > > WHALEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > >> > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Justin Whaley > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Justin Whaley > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Justin Whaley > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > WHALEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WHALEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WHALEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

I would like to be added to the "Oldest Whaley Ancestor List", please. My 2nd great grand-father was John Whaley, b. abt 1800, Co. Down Ireland,d. abt. 1860. Married Mary A. Brown, b. abt. 1814, d. abt 25, May 1890 in New Castle, Lawrence Co., PA. John, wife and family immigrated to the U.S. in April 1847 from Ireland. They settled in Lawrence Co., PA. Their children were: John, William, Elizabeth "Bessie", Jane M., George H., James, Mary A., Sarah M., Robert H., and Ella B., "Ellen". Thank you... Adele Walenciak

I am interested on results, etc. My mother's grandmother was Catherine Whaley and it goes back to Elizabeth Miles and Robert ( Theophilus ) Whaley. If anyone is part of the Whaley's from Avon or Rochester area let me know. Good luck! Sandee Bennett "Justin Whaley" <xypher9@gmail.com> wrote: >I will put you on the list Pat. Lets hope we can find one. > >On 11/29/06, sosdrummer@comcast.net <sosdrummer@comcast.net> wrote: >> >> Did your grandfather on the Whaley side have any brothers? >> >> Mike Whaley >> >> Whaley Surname Project Admin >> >> -------------- Original message -------------- >> From: "Pat Bryant" <hoosierlady@ameritech.net> >> >> > Hi Justin: >> > >> > I am interested in the DNA info, however, I know of no living male >> WHALEY in >> > our line. My father and his brother are both dead and both of them only >> had >> > daughters. Sounds like we are out of luck unless we find a lost cousin >> out >> > there who comes thru a male line. >> > >> > Pat Whaley Bryant >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > WHALEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in >> > the subject and the body of the message >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> WHALEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > >-- >Justin Whaley > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WHALEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

***UPDATED LIST*** The list of those itnterested in compiling and comparing DNA of the numerous branches of the Whaley surname. Justin Whaley -WDT-James Sr. VA b.1720 Isaac Whaley -DTC Linda Boehme -WDT/DTC (Richard W. Whaley) Beverly Graham -NMS Donald Whaley Paul Whaley II Roger Whaley Mike Whaley -DTC Gene Whaley Adele Walenciak -NMS John Whaley Pat Whaley Bryant -NMS/NKMS KEY: DTC= DNA Test Completed NMS= Needs Male Source WDT= Will Donate Time NKMS= No Known Male Source On 11/29/06, Justin Whaley <xypher9@gmail.com> wrote: > > Its is up to those that gain that information to share it with those they > wish. That is why we are all working together. > > On 11/29/06, keith_w < keith_w@dslextreme.com> wrote: > > > > sosdrummer@comcast.net wrote: > > > Linda, > > > > > > That's who is listed on the results page. He was trying to interpret > > the Patriarchs page and correlate it to the Results page. Richard's name > > does not appear on the Patriarchs page for privacy reasons. > > > > > > Mike > > > > Pardon me if this is out of line, or I simply don't understand it all, > > but... > > > > What good is all this information to any observer if at every turn we > > run across "Information withheld for privacy reasons." > > If the info only goes back to you, it's a good thing for YOU, but not > > worth much to anyone else... > > > > Just curious. > > > > keith whaley > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > WHALEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > -- > Justin Whaley > -- Justin Whaley

Its is up to those that gain that information to share it with those they wish. That is why we are all working together. On 11/29/06, keith_w <keith_w@dslextreme.com> wrote: > > sosdrummer@comcast.net wrote: > > Linda, > > > > That's who is listed on the results page. He was trying to interpret the > Patriarchs page and correlate it to the Results page. Richard's name does > not appear on the Patriarchs page for privacy reasons. > > > > Mike > > Pardon me if this is out of line, or I simply don't understand it all, > but... > > What good is all this information to any observer if at every turn we > run across "Information withheld for privacy reasons." > If the info only goes back to you, it's a good thing for YOU, but not > worth much to anyone else... > > Just curious. > > keith whaley > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WHALEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > -- Justin Whaley

I will put you on the list Pat. Lets hope we can find one. On 11/29/06, sosdrummer@comcast.net <sosdrummer@comcast.net> wrote: > > Did your grandfather on the Whaley side have any brothers? > > Mike Whaley > > Whaley Surname Project Admin > > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: "Pat Bryant" <hoosierlady@ameritech.net> > > > Hi Justin: > > > > I am interested in the DNA info, however, I know of no living male > WHALEY in > > our line. My father and his brother are both dead and both of them only > had > > daughters. Sounds like we are out of luck unless we find a lost cousin > out > > there who comes thru a male line. > > > > Pat Whaley Bryant > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > WHALEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in > > the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WHALEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > -- Justin Whaley

Hi Justin: I am interested in the DNA info, however, I know of no living male WHALEY in our line. My father and his brother are both dead and both of them only had daughters. Sounds like we are out of luck unless we find a lost cousin out there who comes thru a male line. Pat Whaley Bryant

Justin Whaley wrote: > Its is up to those that gain that information to share it with those they > wish. That is why we are all working together. Gotcha! keith > On 11/29/06, keith_w <keith_w@dslextreme.com> wrote: >> sosdrummer@comcast.net wrote: >>> Linda, >>> >>> That's who is listed on the results page. He was trying to interpret the >> Patriarchs page and correlate it to the Results page. Richard's name does >> not appear on the Patriarchs page for privacy reasons. >>> Mike >> Pardon me if this is out of line, or I simply don't understand it all, >> but... >> >> What good is all this information to any observer if at every turn we >> run across "Information withheld for privacy reasons." >> If the info only goes back to you, it's a good thing for YOU, but not >> worth much to anyone else... >> >> Just curious. >> >> keith whaley