Home Federal Bank in Knoxville, Tennessee is celebrating their 75th year and in the book they are giving away to their customers, "No Place Like Home" by Stephanie Piper, there is a list of founders. William Whaley is one of them. His write-up is as follows. William Whaley (1880-1962), originally from Edisto Island, South Carolina, moved to Knoxville in his mid-twenties and helped to found the Myers-Whaley Company, manufacturer of mining supplies. He invented the Myers-Whaley Shovelling Machine and during World War II, some artillery devices used by the U.S. Army. Whaley served on the City Planning Commission in 1925-26.

Group- Wondered if anyone has had any luck finding the will of Edward's brother Henry. Also wondering if anyone might have access to "Books of Survey and Distribution" for Galway for this timeframe. Henry is supposedly buried at St. Werburg's church in Dublin. According to information I have, the church registers can be viewed at the Representative Church Body Library in Dublin. Unfortunately the records cover only 1704-1843 for burials. There may be information at St. Werburg's that would go back further. There was a great deal of damage to the church during the Irish Civil War so an on-site visit is probably the only way to determine whether burial information would point to a will. Bob Whaley

If convenient, I would be grateful to see the docs for these families.Please send them as an attachment to the following address: [email protected] pop.uku.edu Many thanks for your continuing work on this complicated family. Joe (Joseph R. Jones)

>From Weeden: More thoughts: According to early historians, Edward the Regicide was b c. 1615 and was thought to have died c. 1674-1676 in MA. He married first Judith Duffel and second Mary Middleton. He did not have a son named Nathaniel but did have a son John who was supposedly born c. 1633. IF Edward were indeed b c. 1615, he would have been c. 18 years old at the time. The recent discovery of a marriage dated 1627 between Edward Walie and Judith Duffelfield, if accurate, would certainly put all of the dates given above in jeopardy!!! Edward Wale/Whaley who died 1718 in Somerset Co MD, married Elizabeth Ratcliffe 1-9-1668 in Somerset Co MD and had among his several children a son John born 12-2-1669 and a son Nathaniel born 4-8-1686 in Somerset Co. It has also been stated by early Whaley researchers that *A* John died 1693 in DE. IF this death were correct, he could not have been the one who was son of Edward of Somerset Co MD as that son John was still alive and mentioned in his father's 1718 will. The John who was said to have died 1693 in DE was reported to have married Mary Radcliffe in 1685 and had sons Nathaniel, CHARLES Thomas and William who therefore had to have been born between 1685 and 1693. They would not have been any older than 8 years old at his death. Barton states that when John died, his sons were of ample age to care for their mother!! Son Nathaniel supposedly remained in DE while sons CHARLES Thomas and William moved to Edisto Island, SC. A question that has been asked by a recent researcher and is quite thought provoking is: "Would John, if he were indeed the son of Edward the Regicide, have named a son CHARLES Thomas considering all the problems that had arisen for this family during the era of King CHARLES I and King CHARLES II? So who is the John who had sons Nathaniel, Charles Thomas and William? Another ??possibility?? to be considered is that maybe he was the son of George Wale. George, brother of Edward Wale also had a son John, b ??? and d c. 1701.

The Family Group Sheet for George Wale, brother of Edward Wale of Maryland is now available. George Wale had five children, George, Elizabeth, Benjamin, John and one other. Jackie hoped to find that the fifth one was Oswald, but she found a notation where ' William Morris, who married ONE OF THE DAUGHTERS of George Wale appeared in court regarding 83 pounds of tobacco due his wife as a share of her father's estate.' So it would appear that the fifth child was a female. Weeden has prepared "Footprints" for George Wale and ANY Oswald Whaleys that she could find. Footprints are chronological events concerning the life of George and the Oswalds. For those of you who descend from this Somerset Co MD and Lancaster Co VA family, these three documents are available by attachment. Ruby (Thanks to Mary Lee Barnes for her contribution to this project.)

On a lighthearted note to genealogy friends...when you need a break from all that serious sleuthing, and you decide to play one of those addictive computer games like Hearts (which comes with Windows software), try giving it a nostalgic twist. For the three players that the computer supplies, I changed the names to names of my ancestors. I gave myself the name of my part-Cherokee great-grandmother, Mary Renfrow (mother of a Whaley son) that I am currently researching. So when I play Hearts, I see the names of my grandmothers and great-grandmothers instead of fictitious strangers. I didn't get to know my grandmothers, much less my great-grandmothers, so it gives me a little joy to see them "playing" this late-20th-century computer game, and to think of them in a sense being here with me as I pursue my research. Then I begin thinking of what life must have been like for them...Mary Renfrow who died ca. 1885 at less than 30 years of age, possibly in childbirth... Mollie Miller Whaley, who was widowed in her early 40s and raised her six children alone....etc. Then the thoughts turn to imagining how they would react if they were to see the world today with all the technology and speed and the "global village" of families getting acquainted via computers and telephone lines. They would be puzzled, but I think they would approve. Beverly Graham, 1111 N. Warren Ave. Springfield, MO 65802 (417) 832-8226 ________________________________________________________ NetZero - We believe in a FREE Internet. Shouldn't you? Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html

I received the following from Jim Musgrave. - ----------------------------------------------------------- Subject: {not a subscriber} Cherokee Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 18:55:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Jim T Musgrave <[email protected]> To: [email protected] References: 1 , 2 I found 2 Whaley listed in the surname index of a rare old Cherokee genealogy book at http://members.aol.com/rarebk At the site, they have the surname index of this rare old Cherokee genealogy book called "Old Cherokee Families and Their Genealogy," with lots of English names, they have posted the 1835 Cherokee census, and a Cherokee genealogy tutorial that shows you how to conduct effective Cherokee genealogy research. Also, they have posted the full index of a book that shows people who sued in the 1800's for Cherokee citizenship. Once at the site, go to BOOKLISTS, then scroll down till you see the books. For the tutorial, it will be about halfway down the page, and then you can invoke it. The 1835 Cherokee census is posted within the tutorial. Jimbo

I received the following from Angela Pratt Whaley. - -------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Hebron Cem in WV Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 12:29:22 -0700 (PDT) From: [email protected] To: [email protected] HEBRON METHODIST CHURCH CEMETERY DIRECTIONS: From State Route 2 in St. Mary's - State Route 16, 8.5 miles to county line; left on County Route 30, 5.5 miles to County Route 32; right 2.1 miles to County Route 5; continue on Route 32, 100 feet and park vehicle; walk up dirt road 0.1 miles to unused church with cemetery behind. A Methodist Protestant organization was formed here in the early 1860's. During the previous 30-35 years of settlement, the cemetery at Pine Grove was used. John McGregor, Nathan Morgan, John Odell, William Piles, T. P. Pratt, L. C. Shingleton, J. W. Simonton, David, Wagner, Thomas Weekley and M. Williamson were among early members. James J. Whaley 1849 1916 None H. W. Whaley 1881 1949 None Thomas M. Whaley 05/04/1890 06/17/1898 None Dewey Whaley 1898 1955 None Laura Whaley 1909 ____ w/o Dewey Angela Pratt Whaley Researching Barnes, Covalt, Cowell, Davis, Ford, Pratt, Weekley, Whaley Transcribing 1850 Barbour Co, (W)Va census [Salvation] is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast. Ephesians 2:8b,9

>From J. Weeden-- We now have FGSs for Theophilus and M. Burdick and Theophilus and M. Kilbourn, both of whom fought in the Revolution. Maybe someone in the WSP group is descended from them. They were both b in Kingstown, Washington Co RI. If you are interested in these, let me know. JW

Hello WSP, My name is Chris Swinson. I'm new to the WSP and looking forward to discovering my Whaley roots with all of you! I haven't gotten very far and don't have much information on the Whaley's, but here goes. GEN 1: Sam WHALEY (of Duplin - no dates) m. Unknown GEN II: Jennie (Mary V.- possibly Virginia?) Whaley BASDEN (b. Aug 29, 1847, Kenansville, Duplin Co. d. Aug 24, 1929, Jones Co.) m. Jonathan Hill BASDEN (Nov 21, 1839 d. Jul 23, 1919) between 1866-1868. -- Her Death Certificate lists her father as "Sam" Whaley, Mother "Unknown". -- 1870 & 1880 Jones Census lists John Hill's wife as "Mary V." -- 1910 Jones Census lists wife as "Jennie". Length of marriage identified in Census appears to support Mary V. and Jennie as same person. GEN III: Children of John Hill and Jennie: 1. Alice BASDEN (b.July 20, 1869 d. Feb 27, 1948) m. J.W.S. MILLS 2. Johnathan Hill BASDEN, Jr. (b. Est. 1871 - d. unkown, buried in SC?) m. Mary A. DAWSON (Date unknown) June 26, 1892 in Jones Co. - b. estimate based on age listed on Jones Co. marriage certificate (21) at time of marriage in 1892. 3. Alonza H. BASDEN (b.Dec 14, 1883 d. Mar 29, 1944) -- 10 children total, only 3 living at time of 1910 Jones Census GEN IV: Child of Johnathan Hill BASDEN, Jr. and Mary A. DAWSON: 1. Lucy BASDEN (b. Jan 24, 1869 d. Aug 12, 1963) m. John Harvey TAYLOR (b.Oct 5, 1893 d. Jul 6, 1951) Mar 5, 1916 in Jones Co. GEN V: Children of John Harvey TAYLOR and Lucy BASDEN: 8 total 1. Robert Adolph TAYLOR (My grandfather, b. Mar 14, 1917 d. Jun 22, 1981) m. Mary Evelyn HEATH (living) Dec 24, 1941 in Dillon, SC. GEN VI: Children of Robert Adolph TAYLOR and Mary Evelyn HEATH: 8 total 2. Betty TAYLOR (My mother - living) m. Eddie Russel SWINSON (living) Jun 27, 1964 in Trenton, Jones Co., NC And then there's me, searching for those who came before, and having little success when it comes to the Whaley's. My first objective is to prove that Mary V. and Jennie WHALEY Basden are the same people. Second, to find out exactly which "Sam" Whaley was her father. Any and all information is gratefully accepted. As you can see, my Whaley information is almost non existent, but as it grows, I'll willing share whatever I find. My apologies if the format is off, but I saw no need to list entire families of BASDEN's and TAYLOR's. I do have additional information on the children left unlisted and will gladly share it if anyone is interested. Thanks! Chris

William WHALEN b.1857 IRE ~ Looking for his parents Family tradition has him born in IRE immigrated: >PA>MN. Parents unknown, he married Margaret SHERLOCK, died 1910 Minneapolis, MN Thank you, Judy Dalluge

Several indicated interest in Gene's entry in which he tried to show his line to Wyamarus. Here is Jackie Weeden's reply: It is difficult to follow this line as there is no much data given regarding dates and locations. I have tried to answer each item given and my reply is in parantheses. 1.EDWARD -b 1619 d 1693 m Mary Middleton. Children of Edward and Mary John Whaley b 1633 d 1693, Nathaniel Whaley b 1656. (Do you mean Edward the Regicide?--If so, the birth and death dates do not correspond with early researchers. Or, are you referring to the Edward Wale of MD who died in 1718? The data given does not agree with that of Edward Wale of MD, either.) 2. JOHN- b 1633 in England d 1693. NATHANIEL b 1656. (Do you mean that this John b 1633 and this Nathaniel b 1656 were brothers and sons of the Edward in the first line? This does not reconcile with either Edward the Regicide or the Edward who d 1718 in MD, or are you saying that John b 1633 was father of Nathaniel b 1656?) 3. JOHN m Mary Radcliff they had a son THOMAS who mar Sarah. THOMAS bought Edisto Island, SC. (According to Rev. Sam's book, *A* John Whaley mar Mary Radcliff c., 1685, had sons Nathaniel, CHARLES Thomas and William, moved to DE, d 1693. According to Barton's book, this John d 1688, plus on one page it is stated that this John mar ELIZABETH Ratcliff and on another page that she was MARY Ratcliffe. Supposedly the sons Charles Thomas and William moved to Edisto Island SC. How does this Thomas fit into your line?) 4. NATHANIEL Whaley had children Nathaniel Whaley Jr. b 1726 d 1769 Whaleyville VA. Peter, Walter, James Whaley. (Who is this Nathaniel? The one listed in 2 as born 1656 and a son of Edward and Mary as well as a brother to John b 1633? Or--are you saying that this Nathaniel b 1656 was a son of John b 1633? If John b 1633 mar Mary Ratcliffe c. 1685, after he came to the US, how could he have a son Nathaniel b 1656--30 years before he mar Mary R? Since your generations are not numbered, it is hard to follow exactly what you mean.) 5. Whaleyville VA-Peter Whaley, Walter Whaley, James Whaley. (Are you saying that Nathaniel who was b 1656 had children Nathaniel Jr. b 1726, Peter, Walter, and James (when he was 70 years old?) There was a Whaleyville in MD and there was a Nathaniel b 1686. But it was Seth Whaley who had a son Peter, b 1779, who had a son Peter Jr. b 1830 who had a son Walter b 1879. None of this computes. The two Peters are bur in Whaleyville, MD.) 6. Nathaniel Whaley Jr.'s son was JAMES ADOLPHUS Whaley. He had a son EDWARD Whaley b 1803. (There is no proof who the father of James Adolphus was. He married Nancy Lake. He did not have a son Edward.) 7. EDWARD Whaley b 1803 m Elizabeth Coldwell and had a son James Ratcliff Whaley b June 15, 1840, d Aug. 2, 1924. (Yes, an Edward Whaley mar Elizabeth Caldwell, but they were mar 8-20-1803 and he therefore was not b 1803.) 8. JAMES RATCLIFF Whaley (According to his pension application, he was b 7-1-1840 and the census records indicate he was b in AL. His widow's pension application shows that he d 8-21-1924 in Ozark, Dale Co AL. His mother's name was Elizabeth and she was b c. 1800 in SC or NC. These papers also state they were mar 3-6-1862.) 9. CHILDREN of JAMES RATCLIFF AND T. AVERY- (The pension application papers, census records and Quitman Co GA biographical sketch show the same 7 children as you name here. We have a FGS for James Ratcliffe and T. Avery. One difference is that son Joseph Thomas d 11-29-1913 instead of 1931. His widow Clara was head of household in the 1920 census.) (We have Family Group Sheets (FGSs) for the following---We can attach them and send them to you. Edward Whalley the Regicide and wives Judith Duffel and Mary Middleton Edward Wale and wife Elizabeth Ratcliffe Nathaniel and Mary Dale, s/o Edward and Elizabeth Ratcliffe. James Adolphus and wife Nancy Lake. James Ratliffe and T. Avery We also have an article written by Suejp that proves that the Edward Whalley the Regicide was not the same man as the Edward Wale who d in MD in 1718. As you study these FGSs you will see that your line is broken above Edward and Caldwell, as Edward is not the s/o James Adolphus. And James Adolphus has no proven father. There are other breaks that make it impossible to get to Edward Whalley the Regicide or Wyamarus using the data you have given. Please give more data--dates, locations and sources and number your generations. Reply please.) Jackie Weeden

>From J. Weeden: We sent you FGSs for Agrippa and brother James Russell, but evidently you wanted the FGS for Joel's son James Russell. I do not have further info or a FGS on the JR who is the SON of Joel. I found a marriage record for J.R. Whaley and M.R. Walker in 1879 in Gwinnett Co, GA, and thought it was for the SON of Joel, but perhaps it was not. We have a FGS for Joel and could share it with you. Could you share your J.R. material with us? You say they were in Walton Co in 1880 but you called the wife M.J. so perhaps the above M.R. is incorrect. In 1900 I find a James R. and MARY in Telfair Co GA and in 1910 and 1920 that same couple was in Muscogee Co GA. Would you mind exchanging data with us?Jackie Weeden

>From Jackie Weeden: In Digest 150 Kermit Johnson had an entry re Joel Whaley b 5-20-1807 who mar Di(s)y (?) Lane Chronister in (?)MO. Daughter was Nancy Ann Whaley b 1842 Smithfield, MO and he said that they may have been in Cape Girardeau MO area also. I don't have much, but here is a little something that may help: 1850 Jasper Co MO, Dist. 41, p. 384, Oct. 1850, 350 Joel Whaley 40 KY Dicy Whaley 34 NC Martha Whaley 12 NC Mary Whaley 10 MO Nancy Whaley 8 MO Dicy Whaley 8 MO Joel Whaley 1 MO CARL JUNCTION CEMETERY, Jasper Co MO D.L. Whaley 4-6-1813 1-28-1899 (Dicy) Nancy A. Witten 1842-1922 nee Whaley-wife of James A. Witten James A. Witten 1834-1917 Company Co, 9th KS Cav. In the book *History of Jasper Co MO* p. 1064 is a biographical sketch on James A. Witten, his wives and his children. He mar Nancy Whaley in 9-12-1867 in Jasper Co. In the 1870 MO census INDEX are two entries for Jasper Co: Disa L. Whaley, Centre Creek twp, p. 8 Samuel Whaley, Centre Creek twp, p. 8. (I do not have the actual listings for those 2.) >From Jasper Co MO marriages are: 1-13-1856 Samuel Whaley and Cynthia Vivian 2-23-1868 Joel A. Whaley and Eliza Philips I hope this helps--Jackie Weeden.

Some info on my Mothers side..JOHN WHALEN b.1883 d. 195? m.1899 Rose Timms b.1883 d.1945 N.Y.I really am just starting to get into this .. Thank You Joe Lenz

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Hello, I'm Sharon Whaley Phillips e-mail [email protected] I'm looking for any info on the Whaley Family who settled in Washington Co,MO., in 1816 from Allen Co.,KY. William and Nancy Pulham were married in Culpeper Co.,VA on Jan 2, 1787 and then moved west. The following is my family: William Whaley,m.Nancy Pulham,1787 Culpeper Co.,VA George Whaley,m.Deliliah Web,??,Washington Co.MO James Whaley,m.Mary Elizabeth Day,1890.St.Francis Co.,MO Arthur Whaley,m.Ruby G.Doggett,1943,St.Francis Co,MO Co,MO

From: Sharon Whaley Phillips e-mail [email protected] I'm looking for any info on William Whaley,m.Nancy Pulham,Culpeper Co.VA,1-2-1787 George Whaley,m.Deliliah Webb,Washington Co,MO 4-19-1853 James Whaley,m.Mary Elizabeth Day,St.Francis Co.MO 5-6-1890 Arthur H.Whaley,m.Ruby G.Dogget,St.Francis,MO.11-7-1943 myself-Sharon Whaley Phillips 898 Treefarm Road High Hill.MO 63350-2900 0

Have you tried listing your Whaley on Genealogy's Most Wanted page? It has some very good luck with adoptees. Leslie Quist http://www.citynet.net/mostwanted/ Patti Mahurin wrote: > Please help me find my roots, > > My birth fathers name was Robert (Bob) Whaley, as far as I know, I was > adopted around 1954 or 55. My birth name was Patricia Ann Whaley. (D.O.B. > 10-28-1952). My Birth mothers name was Wilma Lorraine Pyles who married to > change her last name to Yeager. That is all I know. I was adopted in > Clarksburg West Virginia althought I was told I was really born in Canton > Ohio. Any information you could give me would be appreciated. Thank you > for your time and energy. > > Patti Mahurin (in California) > [email protected]

Please help me find my roots, My birth fathers name was Robert (Bob) Whaley, as far as I know, I was adopted around 1954 or 55. My birth name was Patricia Ann Whaley. (D.O.B. 10-28-1952). My Birth mothers name was Wilma Lorraine Pyles who married to change her last name to Yeager. That is all I know. I was adopted in Clarksburg West Virginia althought I was told I was really born in Canton Ohio. Any information you could give me would be appreciated. Thank you for your time and energy. Patti Mahurin (in California) [email protected]