To Whaley Search Party A great institution in CyberSpace. I cannot imagine how anyone would think that Ruby and Jackie do not provide a great service to all of us. Where do we put the trash? out! So if someone talks trash then let's just put it out. out of our minds! and reaffirm our thanks to these two fine ladies. Ruth Ann Allaire a gggrandaughter of Lucy Whaley Harvey

: Need to just consider the source and ignore them. Get on with what you all : do best.... And pffffffft on the rest.... If they don't like they can : always go elsewhere..... We KNOW the truth...... Jeannie <>< I'll second that, Jeannie. Jackie and Ruby have helped me several times and the information was always right on. Judith Werner Hayward, California

Ruby and Jackie are indeed treasures. They've given me much information FREE and with sources. Norma Paul

CONTINUE I'D SAY , D WHALEY TURCO

Ruby and Jackie, You may not need "one more" amen, but here it is anyway. I am one of those at a brick wall, searching for a Whaley great-grandfather who didn't have the courtesy to leave a clear trail. Even though I haven't found him yet, I fully expect to, eventually, thanks in large part to the quality work and extreme dedication of you two. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK! Bev Graham Springfield, MO ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2000 10:51 AM Subject: Weeden and Nelson bashing! | The message below came in on the Whaley Message Board! | Tuesday, April 04, 2000 | Subject: Ruby Nelson & Jackie Weeden | Posted by:Terri Parker: | I wouldn't believe anything they have to say, whether in a book, on the web, | or in person, if they presented me with a note from God. They're a couple | of know-it-alls who don't know as much as they think they do. | | Our reply to the Message Board. | Subject:Ruby Nelson and Jackie Weeden | Posted by:Ruby L. Nelson | Wednesday, April 05, 2000 Subject:Ruby Nelson and Jackie Weeden | Message:To Terri Parker, etal. from Nelson and Weeden. | We are completely shocked at the bitter, caustic, insulting message by Terri | Parker that came out on the Message Board this morning. We don't think we | have EVER had ANY contact with this person. We are in communication with | a Terri WHALEY who is a descendant of Joshua Whaley and Sarah Crow | and she indicates that she is happy with what we have shared with her and | indicated that she is buying one of our books. | I, Ruby Nelson, write for Jackie Weeden, Whaley researcher, who is not on | line. I give her copies of messages and she hand writes answers. Weeden | has researched ALL Whaleys for over 30 years. She has done hands-on | research in many eastern and central states. She has over 50 notebooks | full of Census Records, Bible records, birth, death and cemetery records, | pension records, etc. of every state she could find them in. She has over | 900 Family Group Sheets in her file and I am typing them onto disks and | am sending them out by attachments. This is a free service. She shares | pension records from her file (and she has over 300 of them) and does | not charge for copies even though they cost her approximately $2000 out | of her own pocket. Weeden does not put out data that is not documented. | She is always willing to work with other Whaley descendants if there are | any differences. So WHY is she being called names? This message from | Terri Parker should NEVER have been sent out on the Message Board | as it is highly improper for some disgruntled person to make disparaging | remarks about a fine researcher that will help others make a poor judgment. | I think an apology is needed here. | Send further messages by private e-mail to [email protected] | | To WSP members--Well, shall we continue or call it quits???? | Ruby | | | | | | | _____________________________________________ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Click here for FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------4B6D45FCA4A7C1F32F50CB74 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Here is another positive response from a WSPer. George --------------4B6D45FCA4A7C1F32F50CB74 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-POP3-Rcpt: [email protected] Received: from bl-14.rootsweb.com (bl-14.rootsweb.com [209.85.6.30]) by a.crl.com (8.8.7/) via ESMTP id LAA05295 for <[email protected]>; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 11:43:25 -0700 (PDT) env-from ([email protected]) Received: (from [email protected]) by bl-14.rootsweb.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA25687 for [email protected]; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 11:43:20 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 11:43:20 -0700 (PDT) X-From_: [email protected] Wed Apr 5 11:43:19 2000 Received: from bl-3.rootsweb.com (bl-3.rootsweb.com [204.212.38.19]) by bl-14.rootsweb.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA25646 for <[email protected]>; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 11:43:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from host.warwick.net (host.warwick.net [204.255.24.254]) by bl-3.rootsweb.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA25338 for <[email protected]>; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 11:43:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from warwick.net (webmail.warwick.net [204.255.24.236]) by host.warwick.net (8.10.0.Beta10/8.10.0.Beta10) with SMTP id e35IhJw06516 for <[email protected]>; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 14:43:19 -0400 (EDT) From: "Susan Maier"<[email protected]> Sender: [email protected] Reply-to: [email protected] To: [email protected] Old-Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 14:42:45 -500 X-Mailer: DMailWeb Web to Mail Gateway 2.2s, http://netwinsite.com/top_mail.htm Message-id: <[email protected]> X-User-Info: 205.177.58.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Diagnostic: Not on the accept list Subject: {not a subscriber} Re: Weeden and Nelson bashing! X-Envelope-To: WHALEY-L X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 >[email protected] wrote: > >> To WSP members--Well, shall we continue or call it quits???? >> Ruby > Ruby and Jackie - You're a treasure. Please don't quit. Sue Maier --------------4B6D45FCA4A7C1F32F50CB74--

NO, the message did not come from WSP. George would not allow that sort of thing to be entered here. I got a message this morning re the *message*-- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Please visit http://www.familyhistory.com/messages/showmsg.asp?id=1262975 to view a recent reply to your message. And we don't know what message she was replying to. Jackie was so distraught that she wondered if we should continue. And she wondered if WSP felt the same way. So I asked you. And so far over 20 positive replies have come in. Thanks, gang, we needed that. We don't know the person who wrote the message. But I wrote a reply and read it to Jackie on the phone and then entered it. Amen. rlnsd

I was looking up relations for the Ladd Forum in "The Ladd Family Book" published in 1890 when I was lambasted by some ignorant and misinformed person for giving out false & incorrect information. I simply assured this person that Mr. Ladd who wrote the book in the late 1800s was just distraught over the fact that his computer crashed and had to depend on the written word from the families for his sources. CARRY ON LADIES. WE ARE ALL BEHIND YOU. Marian Jones

Hi WSPERs, I was upset when I read Ruby's message. But then I was really proud when I saw all the positive responses. You all are a great bunch. Negative comments about anyone are very, very rare here. It seems it's been more than a year since one showed up. Note that Terri Parker is not a member of the Whaley Search Party. Actually I would welcome her here. If she would lurk for a few weeks without making unfounded judgements, she would realize the great service Ruby and Jackie provide freely to any Whaley researchers. They are what makes this the best mail group I belong to. Have a great day George [email protected] wrote: > The message below came in on the Whaley Message Board! > Tuesday, April 04, 2000 > Subject: Ruby Nelson & Jackie Weeden > Posted by:Terri Parker: > [snip] > > To WSP members--Well, shall we continue or call it quits???? > Ruby > >

I don't know about the rest of you, but I am very happy with the way that Ruby and Jackie are working together on all of our Whaley history. They have really supplied me with some very interesting information about my line of the family. I have also sent them information that I have come across when I went to Gainesville. This person who is "bashing" them is totally out of control and should not have reacted that way. Ruby and Jackie are going out of their way to help each and every one of us. I for one am very grateful to them. Does anyone even know who this person is or why they are on the Whaley message board? I say to Jackie and Ruby to keep doing what they are doing, without them a bunch of us may still be in the dark about some of our ancestors!!!!!!! They are great........keep up the good work!!!!!!! Nita Whaley Irvine

i am sorry, but i don't understand why someone would say something terrible about two people that do so much for others. kristina and please continue the good work ruby and jackie and don't listen to that person.

Please remove me from the search party. Thanks Jim Suttles

Ladies- I don't believe I would acknowledge much of anything hurled by a Neanderthal. I believe they may be on the way to extinction anyway. You should seriously consider sticking to the modern and honest researchers. Keep up the great work! Robert Whaley Rochester, NY

At 11:51 AM 4/5/00 EDT, [email protected] wrote: >To WSP members--Well, shall we continue or call it quits???? >Ruby > > Please continue. Don't let one bad apple spoil the good work you two have contributed to this list and to the furtherance of Whaley genealogy. Tim Stowell [email protected] Chattanooga, TN

I agree with Jack. Stand fast in the face of ignorance!

I wouldn't call it quits over this! The people on this list are all here because we enjoy & appreciate your work & efforts. If someone doesn't like it, they don't need to be a part of it. The internet seems to be full of people who are all smoke & wind. Just people who are too scared to yell boo at a bunny in the real world! :-) Funny how the ambiguity of the web brings out the worst... Just my opinions... Carmen And a big warm fuzzy ((((((HUG))))))) to help brighten your day after that nasty person left you a raincloud! On Wed, 5 Apr 2000 11:51:04 EDT [email protected] writes: > The message below came in on the Whaley Message Board! > Tuesday, April 04, 2000 > Subject: Ruby Nelson & Jackie Weeden > Posted by:Terri Parker: > I wouldn't believe anything they have to say, whether in a book, on > the web, > or in person, if they presented me with a note from God. They're a > couple > of know-it-alls who don't know as much as they think they do.  > > Our reply to the Message Board. > Subject:Ruby Nelson and Jackie Weeden > Posted by:Ruby L. Nelson > Wednesday, April 05, 2000 Subject:Ruby Nelson and Jackie Weeden > Message:To Terri Parker, etal. from Nelson and Weeden. > We are completely shocked at the bitter, caustic, insulting message > by Terri > Parker that came out on the Message Board this morning. We don't > think we > have EVER had ANY contact with this person. We are in communication > with > a Terri WHALEY who is a descendant of Joshua Whaley and Sarah Crow > and she indicates that she is happy with what we have shared with > her and > indicated that she is buying one of our books. > I, Ruby Nelson, write for Jackie Weeden, Whaley researcher, who is > not on > line. I give her copies of messages and she hand writes answers. > Weeden > has researched ALL Whaleys for over 30 years. She has done hands-on > research in many eastern and central states. She has over 50 > notebooks > full of Census Records, Bible records, birth, death and cemetery > records, > pension records, etc. of every state she could find them in. She has > over > 900 Family Group Sheets in her file and I am typing them onto disks > and > am sending them out by attachments. This is a free service. She > shares > pension records from her file (and she has over 300 of them) and > does > not charge for copies even though they cost her approximately $2000 > out > of her own pocket. Weeden does not put out data that is not > documented. > She is always willing to work with other Whaley descendants if there > are > any differences. So WHY is she being called names? This message from > Terri Parker should NEVER have been sent out on the Message Board > as it is highly improper for some disgruntled person to make > disparaging > remarks about a fine researcher that will help others make a poor > judgment. > I think an apology is needed here. > Send further messages by private e-mail to [email protected] > > To WSP members--Well, shall we continue or call it quits???? > Ruby > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

[email protected] wrote: > To WSP members--Well, shall we continue or call it quits???? > Ruby Under no circumstances whatsoever should concessions be made to insults. The WSP is both useful and interesting. Please continue. Jack ________________________________ Dr. J. C. Marler Department of Philosophy Saint Louis University 3800 Lindell Boulevard P.O. Box 56907 USA-St. Louis, Missouri 63156-0907 Telephone: +1.314.977-3154 Telephone: +1.314.977-3149 Fax: +1.314.977-3696 URL: http://www.slu.edu/colleges/AS/philos 9594 Manassas Court USA-St. Louis, Missouri 63126-331794 Telephone: +1.314.849-5331 Electronic Address: [email protected]

Sounds like the problem is HERS not YOURS Jackie and Ruby. I wouldn't pay her any mind. Just keep on keeping on, we need you! Leslie Quist [email protected] wrote: > The message below came in on the Whaley Message Board! > Tuesday, April 04, 2000 > Subject: Ruby Nelson & Jackie Weeden > Posted by:Terri Parker: > I wouldn't believe anything they have to say, whether in a book, on the web, > or in person, if they presented me with a note from God. They're a couple > of know-it-alls who don't know as much as they think they do. > > Our reply to the Message Board. > Subject:Ruby Nelson and Jackie Weeden > Posted by:Ruby L. Nelson > Wednesday, April 05, 2000 Subject:Ruby Nelson and Jackie Weeden > Message:To Terri Parker, etal. from Nelson and Weeden. > We are completely shocked at the bitter, caustic, insulting message by Terri > Parker that came out on the Message Board this morning. We don't think we > have EVER had ANY contact with this person. We are in communication with > a Terri WHALEY who is a descendant of Joshua Whaley and Sarah Crow > and she indicates that she is happy with what we have shared with her and > indicated that she is buying one of our books. > I, Ruby Nelson, write for Jackie Weeden, Whaley researcher, who is not on > line. I give her copies of messages and she hand writes answers. Weeden > has researched ALL Whaleys for over 30 years. She has done hands-on > research in many eastern and central states. She has over 50 notebooks > full of Census Records, Bible records, birth, death and cemetery records, > pension records, etc. of every state she could find them in. She has over > 900 Family Group Sheets in her file and I am typing them onto disks and > am sending them out by attachments. This is a free service. She shares > pension records from her file (and she has over 300 of them) and does > not charge for copies even though they cost her approximately $2000 out > of her own pocket. Weeden does not put out data that is not documented. > She is always willing to work with other Whaley descendants if there are > any differences. So WHY is she being called names? This message from > Terri Parker should NEVER have been sent out on the Message Board > as it is highly improper for some disgruntled person to make disparaging > remarks about a fine researcher that will help others make a poor judgment. > I think an apology is needed here. > Send further messages by private e-mail to [email protected] > > To WSP members--Well, shall we continue or call it quits???? > Ruby > >

Need to just consider the source and ignore them. Get on with what you all do best.... And pffffffft on the rest.... If they don't like they can always go elsewhere..... We KNOW the truth...... Jeannie <>< -----Original Message----- From: Elizabeth G. Brett [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2000 9:31 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Weeden and Nelson bashing! Wow! And I thought this kind of bashing only happened on boards involving religion and politics! Ha ha! I don't know anything about any of the parties, BUT...when someone feels the need to bring that kind of negativity into my mailbox, therefore my home...I presume they must have an emotional problem and be very troubled. The original message echoes of anger and bitterness. I am very sorry...I hope y'all are feeling better soon. I guess some people can't hack what they hear about their own ancestors. Eh! Those Whaleys are a wild bunch...and I'm darn proud of it. I'de hate to think my ancestors were BORING!! :) Elizabeth Grayson Brett PS...If y'all Whaley family haven't updated your anti-virus software lately ...do so! Two new Pretty Park variants are all over the internet. I was sent one...but Norton has a fix...I would think McAffee has one too! Good luck. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [SMTP:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2000 11:51 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Weeden and Nelson bashing! The message below came in on the Whaley Message Board! Tuesday, April 04, 2000 Subject: Ruby Nelson & Jackie Weeden Posted by:Terri Parker: I wouldn't believe anything they have to say, whether in a book, on the web, or in person, if they presented me with a note from God. They're a couple of know-it-alls who don't know as much as they think they do. Our reply to the Message Board. Subject:Ruby Nelson and Jackie Weeden Posted by:Ruby L. Nelson Wednesday, April 05, 2000 Subject:Ruby Nelson and Jackie Weeden Message:To Terri Parker, etal. from Nelson and Weeden. We are completely shocked at the bitter, caustic, insulting message by Terri Parker that came out on the Message Board this morning. We don't think we have EVER had ANY contact with this person. We are in communication with a Terri WHALEY who is a descendant of Joshua Whaley and Sarah Crow and she indicates that she is happy with what we have shared with her and indicated that she is buying one of our books. I, Ruby Nelson, write for Jackie Weeden, Whaley researcher, who is not on line. I give her copies of messages and she hand writes answers. Weeden has researched ALL Whaleys for over 30 years. She has done hands-on research in many eastern and central states. She has over 50 notebooks full of Census Records, Bible records, birth, death and cemetery records, pension records, etc. of every state she could find them in. She has over 900 Family Group Sheets in her file and I am typing them onto disks and am sending them out by attachments. This is a free service. She shares pension records from her file (and she has over 300 of them) and does not charge for copies even though they cost her approximately $2000 out of her own pocket. Weeden does not put out data that is not documented. She is always willing to work with other Whaley descendants if there are any differences. So WHY is she being called names? This message from Terri Parker should NEVER have been sent out on the Message Board as it is highly improper for some disgruntled person to make disparaging remarks about a fine researcher that will help others make a poor judgment. I think an apology is needed here. Send further messages by private e-mail to [email protected] To WSP members--Well, shall we continue or call it quits???? Ruby

[email protected] wrote: > To WSP members--Well, shall we continue or call it quits???? > Ruby Please don't quit,I have not gained anything from this list as yet,however it is not the fault of the people that were being bashed,because of illness in my family I have had to step back and wait until later,now that cancer treatments are almost over for my daughter that time will be here soon when I can ask for help and I think I will get it from these ladies who have worked so hard helping others. Don't let someone stop your good work. Sug