Jan Crane - Couldn't remember what list we had connected on so I've posted to a couple to your attention. My response regarding the subject keeps bouncing back. Message says your server is timing out. Is your email box full by any chance? Get back in touch when you can and I'll send you what I have. ALEXANDER and GAMMIE are incidental to my search belonging to another branch of the family. LEDINGHAM and REID are mine. Very little has been verified by me but the researchers I received the information from are trusted sources. Barbara Sleeper Barbara Sleeper