There was no entry on the IGI for the marriage of Helen Sime and William Murray. That was about all I could check with the amount of info you gave. Do you have a birth year or anything for Helen. Why do you have the surname Guilline in the subject line? Is this another connection? You have to give first names and dates and places. There were thousands of Sime names in the Index. Beryl in Canada Beryl Graham b.d.graham@sympatico.ca ----- Original Message ----- From: <Dunlopabm@aol.com> To: <WGW-SURNAMES-SCOTLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 5:16 PM Subject: Re: Gulline surname > hello > looking to start on my family tree, but going round in circles > The name I am looking into is Helen Sime, I am trying to trace her parents > (names not known) Helen Sime died in October 1920 (at Stair, Ayrshire, I > think) after the birth of her daughter (my mother) also leaving a husband a > William Murray of Stair, Ayrshire. I know that William Murray and Helen Sime > married in Riccarton, nr Kilmarnock Ayrshire. > regards > Ann > >