--part1_d1.4668cc9.27f46e21_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --part1_d1.4668cc9.27f46e21_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: <Pmc248@cs.com> From: Pmc248@cs.com Full-name: Pmc248 Message-ID: <ff.3f90a95.27f466c7@cs.com> Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 05:21:59 EST Subject: Andrew RENNY. To: ANGUS-L@rootsweb.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: CompuServe 2000 32-bit sub 107 Hello List, Looking for info. on Andrew RENNY born 1697/1698 at Kinnell, Angus, son of Andrew RENNIE born about 1675 and Jean COWPER born about 1675 and anything to connect Andrew RENNY to a Gateshead, County Durham marriage in 1716. Also, looking for any RENNIE, RENNY, RENNEY connections to Kinnell, Angus, or connections to the same family at Friockheim, Kirkden,Forfar and Inverkeillor, Forfar. Regards, Pamela Renney McKinley at Mesa, Arizona, USA. --part1_d1.4668cc9.27f46e21_boundary--

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I am looking for information on my GGG Grandfather , Dr. William Daingerfield Smith and his Brother, Dr. George William Smith. In the mid 1800's they were supposed to have graduated in medicine from the University of Edinburgh. How would I find these records? Who would I contact to verify? Dr. George Smith joined the Queen's Regiment afterward, and moved to Canada with them. He finally settled in Innis, Louisiana, USA... Pointe Coupee Parish. This is also where Dr. William Daingerfield Smith settled. They were both from the USA, before going abroad to medical school. I am also under the impression their older brother, Edwin Bathurst Smith, may have gone to University of Edinburgh. I would be grateful for any information. TIA Betty Smith Collins xwingedattitudex@aol.com _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

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Pam I would love to go to the Edinburgh Tattoo. I have been once - in 1959 and it was wonderful. In between I have been raising four children and working until I retired three years ago. I only live about 20 miles from Edinburgh but wait and see if you find someone more deserving - and if not, you can e-mail me at dorbax@btinternet.com Greetings for Scotland where it is wet and miserable today! Doreen

thank you so much. I appreciate your kind words. Lois

Will say a prayer or two for you Garntmoon

having surgery will be back in 30 days

having surgery, will be back in about 30 days

Thankyou for writing. A widow lady with four children who lives close to Edinburgh has already asked for the ticket.Thankyou anyway, and if you are planning to go to the Tattoo it is a good idea to get your tickets early as they sell out fast.You can purchase them over the phone, on your credit card. Always purchase mine in November, to make sure I get the seat I want.Get front row center every time.They go on sale almost a year in advance. If you have never been before, dress very warmly or you will freeze, and something to sit on doesn't hurt either, those metal seats are like sitting on a block of ice, they do a big business renting seat cushions, if you can get one before they are all gone. Have fun!! Regards, Pam Renney McKinley at Mesa, Arizona, USA. via Canada and the UK.

Hello Pam, My wife and I will be in Scotland during the mos of July and Aug. We would add another ticket if you still want to part with yours. Earl Richardson , Onalaska , Texas ----- Original Message ----- From: <Pmc248@cs.com> To: <WGW-SURNAMES-SCOTLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2001 1:26 PM Subject: Re: What is Edinburgh Tatoo? > Hello, > If you ever want to see the Edinburgh Tattoo, a VHS tape is made of it > yearly and usually in the stores by November.Those catalogues that we > receive in the mail, which carry UK. items, movies, books, jewelery and tapes > etc. always have them.Believe the Tattoo is sponsored by the City of > Edinburgh and 2 yrs. ago had the Marching Band and Baton twirlers from UCLA. > as one of their top attractions. The bands are by invitation only and it is > quite an honor to be chosen.Don't forget, if anyone would like a free ticket > for this year , I have one to give away. > Regards, Pam Renney McKinley at Mesa, Arizona, USA. > >

Hello, If you ever want to see the Edinburgh Tattoo, a VHS tape is made of it yearly and usually in the stores by November.Those catalogues that we receive in the mail, which carry UK. items, movies, books, jewelery and tapes etc. always have them.Believe the Tattoo is sponsored by the City of Edinburgh and 2 yrs. ago had the Marching Band and Baton twirlers from UCLA. as one of their top attractions. The bands are by invitation only and it is quite an honor to be chosen.Don't forget, if anyone would like a free ticket for this year , I have one to give away. Regards, Pam Renney McKinley at Mesa, Arizona, USA.

Hi Bill and thanks for the info. Karen Field ----------------------------------------------------- Click here for Free Video!! http://www.gohip.com/free_video/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Caddell" <bcaddell@hcnews.com> To: <WGW-SURNAMES-SCOTLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2001 9:47 AM Subject: SCOTS ORIGINS > Just a note to researchers on Scots Origins (SO). I sent a msg recently > concerning what I'd found in my downloads from SO. Out of 3,000 names > I've downloaded, generally, I noted only about 10 % were spelled > correctly. Most were phonetically spelled, some spellings were much > different than I expected. > > Some examples are: > > SURNAME......As Spelled in Scots Origin (OPR) records > > AIKEN........AIKINE > ANDERSON.....ANDERSOUNE > BLACK........BLAK > BOSWELL......BOSUELL > BROWN........BROUNE > BRYSON.......BRYSSON > BUCHAN.......BUCKUM > CRAWFORD.....CRAWFURD > DIXON........DICKSOUNE > DOUGLAS......DOWGLASE, DUGLASSE > FERGUSON.....FERGUESONE > FRIZELL......FRYSELL > GARNER.......GAIRNER > GIBSON.......GIBBISONE > GORDON.......GORDOUN > GREEN........GREIN > GREENLAW.....GREINLAW > HALIBURTON...HALYBRUITOUN > HENDERSON....HENRYSONE > JOHNSTON.....JONSTONE > LYNCH........LEITCH > MILLER.......MILLAR > NICHOLSON....NICCOLSONE > PATTON.......PATOUN, PATAN, PATONE > RALSTON......RALSTOUN > REED.........REID, RID > ROBERTSON....ROBERTSOUNE > SADLER.......SAIDLER > SHAW.........SCHAW > SHELL........SCHEILL > SIMPSON......SIMSOUN, SYMPSONE, SYMSON > STEVENSON....STIVENSONE, STEVINSONE > MCGREGOR.....MCKGRIGOR, MCKGRIGGER > TAYLOR.......TAILYOUR > THOMPSON.....TOMPSONE > TURNER.......TURNOR > WATSON.......WATSOUNE > > Forename.....Scots Origin > > AGNES........AGNASE > ALLISON......ALISONE, AILISONE > ANDREW.......ANDRO, ANDROW > ARCHIBALD....AIRCHBALD > BARBARA......BARBRIE > CHRISTIAN....CHRISTEANE > DAVID........DAUID > HARRY........HAERIE, HERIE > HENRY........HENDRIE > JANET........JENAT, JONATT, JANNAT > JOHN.........JHONE, JOHNNE, JON > KATHRINE.....KATREIN > MARGARET.....MARGRIT > MARION.......MARIONNE, MARYON > MICHAEL......MYCHAELL > OLIVER.......OLIVEIR, OLIPHER > REBECCA......REBECKA > RICHARD......RITCHART, RECHART > THOMAS.......TOMAS > VIOLET.......VYLOT > WILLIAM......WILLIANE, WILYIAM > > When I actually looked at the records, I am finding MANY data input > errors for the OPR. The errors are usually the parents or spouse's name > (either forenames or surnames) not entered in the proper column in the > database for the respective name. As a result searches may be > frustrating. > > As Shown In OPR Record: (N1-N3 = SURNAME, F1-F3 = FORENAME, M = > MISCELLANEOUS DATA) > > An example, as shown in the OPR (christening) > N1......F1......N2.......F2...N3.....F3......M > CADELL..MARION..FRANCIS..HEW..JANET..CADELL..HEW FRANCIS CADELL/JANET > MARIAN BUCHAN SYDSERF > > It Should Read: > > N1......F1......N2......F2...........N3.......F3 > CADELL..MARION..CADELL..HEW FRANCIS..SYDSERF..JANET MARIAN BUCHAN > ============================================================================ ================ > > Another example, as shown in OPR (marriage): > N1......F1....N2......F2......N3.....F3..M > CUTHIL..MARY..DUNCAN..HENRY..............HENRY DUNCAN MCGOWAN > > It should read: > N1......F1....N2.......F2............N3..F3..M > CUTHIL..MARY..MCGOWAN..HENRY DUNCAN.......... > ============================================================================ ================ > > Another example, as shown in OPR (marriage): > N1......F1.........N2...F2.....N3..F3...M > CADELL..CATHERINE..HAY..LEWIS...........LEWIS HAY IRVING > > It should read: > N1......F1.........N2......F2.........N3..F3..M > CADELL..CATHERINE..IRVING..LEWIS HAY.......... > > ============================================================================ ================ > > Another example, as shown in OPR (christening): > N1......F1........N2.............F2....N3..F3..M > CADDEL..LAURENCE..CADDEL ELIZTH..JOHN..........JOHN CADDEL/ELIZTH. > JOHNSON > > It should read: > N1......F1........N2.............F2....N3.......F3......M > CADDEL..LAURENCE..CADDEL.........JOHN..JOHNSON..ELIZTH.. > > ============================================================================ ================ > > Is this clear as mud. Good luck. > > Bill Caddell > > List Manager for BATTLES, BIRCHFIELD, BURCHFIELD, BURWELL, CADDELL, > CADLE, CADWELL, CALDER, CALDERWOOD, CAUDLE, CORDELL, KEADLE, and > SCT-INVERNESS >

If and when I ever get to Scotland in August this is something I will want to experience. I also did not know what Edinburgh Tattoo meant and thanks to whoever had the courage to speak up. Without that person speaking up, I wouldn't have known about this heart stopping event. Lona Laughlin Boudreaux Houston, Tx > Hello, > Can't believe there are Scottish people who have never heard of the > Edinburgh Tattoo!! > It is a huge outdoor concert of bands from all over the world and is held at > the Edinburgh Castle at night, every night, for three weeks every August. A > highlight of each performance is a lone Piper who stands high on the > battlements , dressed in full Scottish regalia , and plays his pipes in the > darkness with only a spotlight shining on him. Very impressive!! On Saturdays > there are two evening performances, and the second, which ends about midnite, > is followed by a fireworks display.The castle is packed for every > performance, every seat is taken. A glorious show!! Sorry my Scottish pride > is showing. > Kindest Regards, Pam Renney McKinley at Mesa, Arizona, USA. > via Canada and the UK. [ Always looking for RENNEY.] > >

Hello, Can't believe there are Scottish people who have never heard of the Edinburgh Tattoo!! It is a huge outdoor concert of bands from all over the world and is held at the Edinburgh Castle at night, every night, for three weeks every August. A highlight of each performance is a lone Piper who stands high on the battlements , dressed in full Scottish regalia , and plays his pipes in the darkness with only a spotlight shining on him. Very impressive!! On Saturdays there are two evening performances, and the second, which ends about midnite, is followed by a fireworks display.The castle is packed for every performance, every seat is taken. A glorious show!! Sorry my Scottish pride is showing. Kindest Regards, Pam Renney McKinley at Mesa, Arizona, USA. via Canada and the UK. [ Always looking for RENNEY.]

Hello, Have sent your note re. McKinley on to my Daughter. She is doing her Dad's, the McKinley line, She started in Ireland , where she thought they were from, and quickly discovered they were from Scotland instead, and has been tracing them there for the past year. Thankyou for the info. Regards, Pam Renney McKinley at Mesa, Arizona, USA.

Dear Pam, What about your McKinley connection. Kintyre is hooching with McKinleys a sept of the MacDonalds.Cheers Donnie

Just a note to researchers on Scots Origins (SO). I sent a msg recently concerning what I'd found in my downloads from SO. Out of 3,000 names I've downloaded, generally, I noted only about 10 % were spelled correctly. Most were phonetically spelled, some spellings were much different than I expected. Some examples are: SURNAME......As Spelled in Scots Origin (OPR) records AIKEN........AIKINE ANDERSON.....ANDERSOUNE BLACK........BLAK BOSWELL......BOSUELL BROWN........BROUNE BRYSON.......BRYSSON BUCHAN.......BUCKUM CRAWFORD.....CRAWFURD DIXON........DICKSOUNE DOUGLAS......DOWGLASE, DUGLASSE FERGUSON.....FERGUESONE FRIZELL......FRYSELL GARNER.......GAIRNER GIBSON.......GIBBISONE GORDON.......GORDOUN GREEN........GREIN GREENLAW.....GREINLAW HALIBURTON...HALYBRUITOUN HENDERSON....HENRYSONE JOHNSTON.....JONSTONE LYNCH........LEITCH MILLER.......MILLAR NICHOLSON....NICCOLSONE PATTON.......PATOUN, PATAN, PATONE RALSTON......RALSTOUN REED.........REID, RID ROBERTSON....ROBERTSOUNE SADLER.......SAIDLER SHAW.........SCHAW SHELL........SCHEILL SIMPSON......SIMSOUN, SYMPSONE, SYMSON STEVENSON....STIVENSONE, STEVINSONE MCGREGOR.....MCKGRIGOR, MCKGRIGGER TAYLOR.......TAILYOUR THOMPSON.....TOMPSONE TURNER.......TURNOR WATSON.......WATSOUNE Forename.....Scots Origin AGNES........AGNASE ALLISON......ALISONE, AILISONE ANDREW.......ANDRO, ANDROW ARCHIBALD....AIRCHBALD BARBARA......BARBRIE CHRISTIAN....CHRISTEANE DAVID........DAUID HARRY........HAERIE, HERIE HENRY........HENDRIE JANET........JENAT, JONATT, JANNAT JOHN.........JHONE, JOHNNE, JON KATHRINE.....KATREIN MARGARET.....MARGRIT MARION.......MARIONNE, MARYON MICHAEL......MYCHAELL OLIVER.......OLIVEIR, OLIPHER REBECCA......REBECKA RICHARD......RITCHART, RECHART THOMAS.......TOMAS VIOLET.......VYLOT WILLIAM......WILLIANE, WILYIAM When I actually looked at the records, I am finding MANY data input errors for the OPR. The errors are usually the parents or spouse's name (either forenames or surnames) not entered in the proper column in the database for the respective name. As a result searches may be frustrating. As Shown In OPR Record: (N1-N3 = SURNAME, F1-F3 = FORENAME, M = MISCELLANEOUS DATA) An example, as shown in the OPR (christening) N1......F1......N2.......F2...N3.....F3......M CADELL..MARION..FRANCIS..HEW..JANET..CADELL..HEW FRANCIS CADELL/JANET MARIAN BUCHAN SYDSERF It Should Read: N1......F1......N2......F2...........N3.......F3 CADELL..MARION..CADELL..HEW FRANCIS..SYDSERF..JANET MARIAN BUCHAN ============================================================================================ Another example, as shown in OPR (marriage): N1......F1....N2......F2......N3.....F3..M CUTHIL..MARY..DUNCAN..HENRY..............HENRY DUNCAN MCGOWAN It should read: N1......F1....N2.......F2............N3..F3..M CUTHIL..MARY..MCGOWAN..HENRY DUNCAN.......... ============================================================================================ Another example, as shown in OPR (marriage): N1......F1.........N2...F2.....N3..F3...M CADELL..CATHERINE..HAY..LEWIS...........LEWIS HAY IRVING It should read: N1......F1.........N2......F2.........N3..F3..M CADELL..CATHERINE..IRVING..LEWIS HAY.......... ============================================================================================ Another example, as shown in OPR (christening): N1......F1........N2.............F2....N3..F3..M CADDEL..LAURENCE..CADDEL ELIZTH..JOHN..........JOHN CADDEL/ELIZTH. JOHNSON It should read: N1......F1........N2.............F2....N3.......F3......M CADDEL..LAURENCE..CADDEL.........JOHN..JOHNSON..ELIZTH.. ============================================================================================ Is this clear as mud. Good luck. Bill Caddell List Manager for BATTLES, BIRCHFIELD, BURCHFIELD, BURWELL, CADDELL, CADLE, CADWELL, CALDER, CALDERWOOD, CAUDLE, CORDELL, KEADLE, and SCT-INVERNESS

Can't believe there are Scottish people who have never heard of the Edinburgh Tattoo!! ~~~~~ The Edinburgh Tatoo sounds beautiful - Thank you for telling about it. I am of Scottish descent - born and raised in Southern California USA - I am looking for my ancestors. I know nothing of Scottish rites or any thing - other than the names of my family whom I am searching for. My 3rd gr grandfather was from around the area of Edinburgh - and I can't find any thing about him. This is a quote from my gr grandfather George Franklin PECKHAM'S memoirs which he wrote in 1907 when he was 65 years old. "My grandfather PECKHAM was born near Edinburgh, Scotland near the middle of the 18th century and entered the medical University of Edinburgh at the age of 20 after taking a thorough course he graduated with honors and commenced his practice near his former home where he married. shortly he made up his mind to try his luck in the new country of America and on his arrival here located near Albany, new York. He raised a family of seven children, 5 boys and 2 girls, of which my father was one. Father was born 10 Dec 1810. Father's brothers were named Lewis, George, Alonzo and Alfonzo. Sisters were Carrilaine and Hester. Father's name was William A.F. [Augustus Franklin] PECKHAM and he was third in line. The children attended such schools as were had at that time. At about 18 years of age, father entered the Theological University of Albany; At about this time Grandfather fell from the roof of his barn and received injuries which caused his death. Grandmother soon moved to Ohio with her family excepting father who stayed at his school and graduated in 1834......." As you can see he told some interesting things about his grandfather [my 3rd gr gf] never saying who he was, or who his wife was - he named the children just fine, but not the parents- SO, I joined this list hoping that someone might know of my PECKHAMS- I have written the University and they find no records that old - I have talked to David DOBSON who teaches at the University - he says that PECKHAM IS NOT a Scottish name - it is an English name. If any of you can help me, I would be most appreciative.. Wilma Fleming Haynes Brookings, Oregon - USA gencon@harborside.com

Hello, Sorry, this is off subject. Had purchased a ticket to this years Edinburgh Tattoo , this is in the best seats, front row center, ONE ticket only. For Tuesday August 14/2001. and am now unable to attend. If anyone would like the ticket E mail me direct at Pmc248@cs.com Regards, Pam Renney McKinley at Mesa, Arizona, USA. Always looking for RENNEY any spelling.