Hi Jim, The first one of my Magill ancestors we know of is Rev. Hugh S. Magill (you're right, it is also spelled McGill which means it takes twice as long to search records because both names must be looked up!) He was a Presbyterian minister from County Tyrone, Northern Ireland, ordained 1753 or 54. He came to Pennsylvania in 1772. What kind of information do you have? I didn't know the Magill/McGill/MacGill/Mcgeil, etc. went so far back. In fact, I don't know much about the Magill name. Thanks. Best regards, Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Graham <jimg46bw@yahoo.co.uk> To: <WGW-SURNAMES-SCOTLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 7:28 AM Subject: Surname Magill / McGill linked to McKill > to "cwieland" > Just a word of caution that has been put to me. the > surname McKill could originate from Magill / McGill, > the G and K have much the same sound and most people > were illiterate until the 1800's a clerk simply wrote > what a name sounded like and different clerks could > use different spellings for the same personal name. > McKill name originates from Galloway in the south > west of scotland. McGill/Mcgeil/Macgill etc. first > appeared in 1231, according to Black's "Surnames of > Scotland". I am researching McKill / MacKill, Have > started a database, keep in touch > Jim Graham > > ____________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk > or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie > >

to "cwieland" Just a word of caution that has been put to me. the surname McKill could originate from Magill / McGill, the G and K have much the same sound and most people were illiterate until the 1800's a clerk simply wrote what a name sounded like and different clerks could use different spellings for the same personal name. McKill name originates from Galloway in the south west of scotland. McGill/Mcgeil/Macgill etc. first appeared in 1231, according to Black's "Surnames of Scotland". I am researching McKill / MacKill, Have started a database, keep in touch Jim Graham ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie

Check Genealogical Directory 2001 just out spelling there DUNMYRE Good luck john >From: "Ann Heinz" <agatha1@flash.net> >Reply-To: WGW-SURNAMES-SCOTLAND-L@rootsweb.com >To: WGW-SURNAMES-SCOTLAND-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: DUNMIRE >Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 12:30:12 -0500 > > Does anyone know of the surname DUNMIRE or similar spelling? > Samuel Dunmire of early 1800's does not seem to fit into the >Dunmire/Dormeyer lines from Germany. Family tradition has it that he was >Scotch. Both wives of His son are Scotch. > I have found one instance of ship lists where a Jane Dunmire comes in >1840's with her family and lists her nationality as Scotch. > Church records are hard to use if the probable denomination is not >known. > Appreciate any ideas or help. >Ann >agatha1@flash.net > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

I can't find the original message on this subject, so I don't know if this is included. IMO, the most consolidated list is the effort now going on at RootWeb called the Immigrant Ships Transcribers Guild (ISTG). They now state they have the passenger lists for 3259 ships. >Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 18:13:29 EDT >From: JJrMcComb@aol.com >To: ABERDEEN-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [ABERDEEN] Passenger Lists on the Internet > >Here are a few additional passenger lists along with the well-known "Olive >Tree." > > <A HREF="http://members.aol.com/rprost/passenger.html">PASSENGER LISTS ON >THE INTERNET</A> > <A HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/~pictou/islskye.htm">ISLE OF SKYE Passenger >List</A> ><A HREF="http://www.execpc.com/%7eharoldr/shiplist.htm"> Ship Passenger Lists ></A> > <A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/5978/Emigration.html"> >http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/5978/Emigration.html</A> > <A HREF="http://www.primenet.com/~langford/gen_page.htm">American >Plantations and Colonies</A> > <A HREF="http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/index.shtml">The Olive Tree >Genealogy: Index to Ships' Passenger Lists</A> > >~J.McComb-S.California-Researching Clan MacKintosh and Clan Chattan~ > > -- mailto:fhheld@netzero.net

John Brake, Thank you for responding to the Dunmire quest I posted. I do not know the "Genealogy Directory". Is this available on line or in bookstores? thank you, Ann

Here are a few additional passenger lists along with the well-known "Olive Tree." <A HREF="http://members.aol.com/rprost/passenger.html">PASSENGER LISTS ON THE INTERNET</A> <A HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/~pictou/islskye.htm">ISLE OF SKYE Passenger List</A> <A HREF="http://www.execpc.com/%7eharoldr/shiplist.htm"> Ship Passenger Lists </A> <A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/5978/Emigration.html"> http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/5978/Emigration.html</A> <A HREF="http://www.primenet.com/~langford/gen_page.htm">American Plantations and Colonies</A> <A HREF="http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/index.shtml">The Olive Tree Genealogy: Index to Ships' Passenger Lists</A> ~J.McComb-S.California-Researching Clan MacKintosh and Clan Chattan~

Does anyone know of the surname DUNMIRE or similar spelling? Samuel Dunmire of early 1800's does not seem to fit into the Dunmire/Dormeyer lines from Germany. Family tradition has it that he was Scotch. Both wives of His son are Scotch. I have found one instance of ship lists where a Jane Dunmire comes in 1840's with her family and lists her nationality as Scotch. Church records are hard to use if the probable denomination is not known. Appreciate any ideas or help. Ann agatha1@flash.net

Hi Susan, I'm still confused! Susan Murray and Peter McNeill got married in Fasnacloich 25 Sep 1883, and duaghter Anna was born there. Right? So who was born in Calderbraes? Was it Susan Murray? If so, she can't be the same Susan Murray that I found in the 1881 census, as she gave her birthplace as Stranraer, Wigtownshire. However there are no Susan Murrays listed as born in Bothwell parish or Uddingston village in the 1881 census. The best way to get to the bottom of the mystery is to get a copy of Susan and Peter's marriage certificate. This could be ordered online from www.scotsorigins.org.uk but it might be easier for your aunt and uncle to go to New Register House in Edinburgh when they are here and get it on the spot. I don't know much about the Scots Origins site as I'm in the lucky position of being able to go in person to New Register House. (I've heard something about having to pay upfront to get 30 pages of index downloads in a 24 hour period, and then if you spot your ancestors, you have to pay extra for a copy of the certificate). This seems a bit steep if you are only interested in one couple and one certificate. When your aunt and uncle are in Scotland, they should go to Edinburgh anyway, if only to see the sights: It's a marvellous, picturesque, historic and lively town, well worth the visit. I'd also be glad to meet them and show them around Uddingston (about half an hour required!), take them to Bothwell Casstle (dates from abt the 13th century and is very impressive) and take them to a pub which existed in your forebears' time as an old coaching inn and is still the best-known pub in the village. Hope this helps, Regards, ken Mathieson, Uddingston, Lanarkshire -----Original Message----- From: Chip & Susan Belyea <rbelyea@shentel.net> To: WGW-SURNAMES-SCOTLAND-L@rootsweb.com <WGW-SURNAMES-SCOTLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Date: 18 April 2001 02:32 Subject: Re: info >Dear Ken > >I can't thank you enough for your help.My Uncles and Aunt who are the >children of Anna Murray MACNEILL Kelley and the grandchildren of Susan and >Peter MACNEILL are coming to Scotland in June to see where they came from as >it is their first trip to where their Mom spent the first 16 years of her >life before coming to Pa, USA.. It will be very exciting for them.I >inadvertently confused you and myself! on all the places that I told you. >After speaking with my Uncle and Sister last night this is how the story >goes(I hope).The doucument is the birth certificate of Anna MACNEILL ,the >daughter of Susan and Peter MACNEILL.The reference to Fasnacloich Appin >Argyllshire is where Peter and Susan got married on Sept25,1883.Then the >district of Bothwell and the county of Lanark as well asCalderbraes refer to >the place of birth. Does this make any more sense to you? > >I wonder if I could ask you how I would go about getting a copy of their >marriage certificate and I am assuming that what you found in the 1881 >census must be correct as there were no more people by those names,Correct? >Susan and Peter Macneill also had a son. Alex-born in1887,a daughter Jessie >who did not emmigrate to the USA but died and is buried there in the Glasgow >region ,a daughter Catherine who died at Ellis Island in NYC of tuberculosis >and a daughter Nellie. Jessie has a living son,Bill LEITCH who lives in >Glasgow(somewhere).I can't thank you enough for all your kind help. If there >is anything that I can do for you,please let me know. Sincerely, Susan. I >anxiously await your response. >-----Original Message----- >From: Ken Mathieson <ken@kenmath.free-online.co.uk> >To: WGW-SURNAMES-SCOTLAND-L@rootsweb.com ><WGW-SURNAMES-SCOTLAND-L@rootsweb.com> >Date: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 8:00 PM >Subject: Re: info > > >>Hi Susan, >>>From where I'm sitting I can look out ofmy window and see Calderbraes, >>Uddingston (except it's dark just now!) about 3/4 of a mile away. I'm a bit >>puzzled by the document which you state lists Appin Argyllshire in >Bothwell, >>Lanarkshire. This can't be: They're about 130 miles apart: Appin north of >>Oban and Bothwell east of Glasgow. The place name you can't make out is >>Fasnacloich, which is a very small hamlet in Glen Creran about a mile >inland >>from the head of Loch Creran, which is a loch on the east side of Loch >>Linnhe about 20 miles north of Oban. One of the James Bond movies had its >>opening sequence shot at the narrows of Loch Creran where a helicopter is >>following a car along the lochside road. I know the area very well: It was >a >>favourite camping spot for years.The area is unbelievably beautiful , >>especially towards the end of May when the gorse blooms bright yellow >>against the most vivid green of the new grass and leaves. >> >>A sawyer was simply someone who sawed wood, either in timber felling, or >the >>dressing/cutting of felled timber. >> >>I hope this helps, >> >>regards, >>Ken Mathieson, >>Uddingston, Lanarkshire >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Chip & Susan Belyea <rbelyea@shentel.net> >>To: WGW-SURNAMES-SCOTLAND-L@rootsweb.com >><WGW-SURNAMES-SCOTLAND-L@rootsweb.com> >>Date: 16 April 2001 23:43 >>Subject: Re: info >> >> >>>Gosh, I think that you have found my ancestors! It seems too easy to be >>true >>>. the relevance ofAppin Argyllshire is that the only Scottish document >that >>>I have is the birth certificate of Anna Murray MACNEILL and it lists Appin >>>Argyllshire in the district of Bothwell in the county of Lanark. It gives >>>the date of Peter and Susans marriage as Sept,1883.There is another word >>>that I can't decipher-Faenaellich or Faenacloich?I do not know what that >>>refers to.The document states that Anna MACNEILL was born in >>>Calderbraes,near Uddingston.It also gives the occupation of Peter >>>as"Sawyer".Do you know what that means? >>> >>>Do you think from this further documentation that these facts fit with >what >>>you have sent me? I really do appreciate your help and knowledge. Susan >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: Ken Mathieson <ken@kenmath.free-online.co.uk> >>>To: WGW-SURNAMES-SCOTLAND-L@rootsweb.com >>><WGW-SURNAMES-SCOTLAND-L@rootsweb.com> >>>Date: Monday, April 16, 2001 6:14 PM >>>Subject: Re: info >>> >>> >>>>Hi, >>>>What is the relevance of Appin, Argyll? Uddingston lies about 10 mile >east >>>>of Glasgow on the river Clyde in the Parish of Bothwell, while Appin is a >>>>village on the east shore of Loch Linnhe, about 120 mile north west of >>>>Glasgow. I've checked the 1881 census and there was a Susan Murray aged >>21, >>>>born Stranraer, Wigtownshire abt 1860 working as a nurse/domestic servant >>>at >>>>Wingfield, Bothwell in the home of Edmund Bell and his family. There was >>>>also a Peter MacNeill at the Clyde Hotel, Bothwell, son of the owner, >>Janet >>>>McBride. Peter was aged 23, unmarried, occupation Spirit Merchant, born >>>>Sandbank, Argyll (5 miles north of Dunoon on the Holy Loch - part of the >>>>DFirth of Clyde). If this the right man, there is quite a tribe of >>siblings >>>>and step-siblings (Janet McBride had obviously married at least twice). >>Are >>>>these your people? >>>> >>>>Regards, >>>>Ken Mathieson, >>>>Uddingston. Lanarkshire >>>> >>>> >>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>From: Chip & Susan Belyea <rbelyea@shentel.net> >>>>To: WGW-SURNAMES-SCOTLAND-L@rootsweb.com >>>><WGW-SURNAMES-SCOTLAND-L@rootsweb.com> >>>>Date: 16 April 2001 05:17 >>>>Subject: info >>>> >>>> >>>>>This is my very first attempt to research my family ancestors in the >>>>Uddingston area of Scotland.I am unsure if this is even the correct way >to >>>>use this.I am looking for inf. on Peter MacNeill and Susan Murray who >were >>>>married in 1883, Sept 25th, in the district of Bothwell.(Appen >>>Argyllshire). >>>>> >>>>>I would appreciate any guidance in finding this inf.. They emigrated to >>>the >>>>united States sometime around 1910.If I am using this mode >>>>incorrectly,please advise me. Thank you Rbelyea@shentel.net >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> > >

In message <3ADCEF2C.7D1FBB6B@tima.com>, Louise & Jerry <ljmeadow@tima.com> writes >Hi Listers, >I am researching the surname STURROCK of Forfar (Angus County) Scotland. >I wish to know if anyone may be able to help me? >My grgrandparents WILLIAM STURROCK b. 24 Nov. 1856, son of CHARLES >STURROCK and JANE ALEXANDER, m. CHRISTINA WALKLER b. 7 July 1857, dau. >of DAVID WALKER and ANN MILLER (MILLAR) >I know they had at least two sons born in Scotland: CHARLES b. 1880 and >William b. 1881 before they came to USA. They lived in Forfar. Is that >located in the highlands or lowlands of Scotland? >Any help will be appreciated. >Thanks! >Louise in Indiana Hi Louise, There are still STURROCKS in the Forfar area. I know of a craft shop in Letham, Angus (abt 7 miles outside of Forfar) owned by the STURROCK family. Don't know the exact address, but I guess: The STURROCK Family, The Craft Shop Letham Angus would get them! Forfar (and Letham are in the Lowlands) - but only just! From the road between Letham and Forfar you can see the escarpment of the Highland Fault Line, just a few miles to the north. The quietness of Letham village is often broken by the local Royal Air Force fighters training as they head in VERY low over the village to the breaks in the hills (of the Highlands) just miles away. Slainte! John Gibson Chalmers - john@dgnscrn.demon.co.uk ... also at john.chalmers@us.abb.com Homepages ... http://www.dgnscrn.demon.co.uk/ and ... http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~chalmers/

If you want to find Bill Leitch in Glasgow, try going to www.192.com. It is a U.K. directory search engine that I've found very helpful trying to locate living family members. Robert Skipp Renfrew, PA, USA

Hi! I'm searching for information about my gggrandmother, Margaret McClurg (possibly McLurg). She was born abt. May 1808 in Scotland. She emigrated to America, date unknown. She married John Beaumont, date and location unknown. They settled in Salem, Columbiana County, Ohio. Her children included Mary, George, Hephzibah, Henry Perkins (my ggrandfather) and Godfrey. Margaret died 23 Jan 1873 in Salem. Thank you. Chris Wieland

Hi Louise, You are right they did have at LEAST 2 children! This is from the IGI: Birth/Christening1845 - 1885, Angus, Scotland, British Isles Father: David Walker, Mother: Ann Millar Exact Spelling: Off [refine search] Prepare selected records for download Results: International Genealogical Index/British Isles (10 matches) Select records to download - (50 maximum) 1. Mary Ann WALKER - International Genealogical Index Gender: F Birth: 4 Mar 1855 Forfar, Angus, Scotland 2. Christina WALKER - International Genealogical Index Gender: F Birth: 7 Jul 1857 Forfar, Angus, Scotland 3. Jean Neave WALKER - International Genealogical Index Gender: F Birth: 19 Sep 1859 Forfar, Angus, Scotland 4. David WALKER - International Genealogical Index Gender: M Birth: 20 Aug 1861 Forfar, Angus, Scotland 5. John WALKER - International Genealogical Index Gender: M Birth: 1 Sep 1863 Forfar, Angus, Scotland 6. Ann WALKER - International Genealogical Index Gender: F Birth: 12 Sep 1865 Forfar, Angus, Scotland 7. Susan Duncan Mc Naughton WALKER - International Genealogical Index Gender: F Birth: 14 Oct 1867 Forfar, Angus, Scotland 8. James Millar WALKER - International Genealogical Index Gender: M Birth: 29 Oct 1869 Forfar, Angus, Scotland 9. Helen Petrie WALKER - International Genealogical Index Gender: F Birth: 29 Nov 1871 Forfar, Angus, Scotland 10. Alexander Whyte WALKER - International Genealogical Index Gender: M Birth: 6 Jul 1873 Forfar, Angus, Scotland This is their marriage record: David WALKER Sex: M Marriage(s): Spouse: Ann MILLER Marriage: 8 Jan 1854 Forfar, Angus, Scotland Good Luck on your search! Elaine

Hi Susan, From where I'm sitting I can look out ofmy window and see Calderbraes, Uddingston (except it's dark just now!) about 3/4 of a mile away. I'm a bit puzzled by the document which you state lists Appin Argyllshire in Bothwell, Lanarkshire. This can't be: They're about 130 miles apart: Appin north of Oban and Bothwell east of Glasgow. The place name you can't make out is Fasnacloich, which is a very small hamlet in Glen Creran about a mile inland from the head of Loch Creran, which is a loch on the east side of Loch Linnhe about 20 miles north of Oban. One of the James Bond movies had its opening sequence shot at the narrows of Loch Creran where a helicopter is following a car along the lochside road. I know the area very well: It was a favourite camping spot for years.The area is unbelievably beautiful , especially towards the end of May when the gorse blooms bright yellow against the most vivid green of the new grass and leaves. A sawyer was simply someone who sawed wood, either in timber felling, or the dressing/cutting of felled timber. I hope this helps, regards, Ken Mathieson, Uddingston, Lanarkshire -----Original Message----- From: Chip & Susan Belyea <rbelyea@shentel.net> To: WGW-SURNAMES-SCOTLAND-L@rootsweb.com <WGW-SURNAMES-SCOTLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Date: 16 April 2001 23:43 Subject: Re: info >Gosh, I think that you have found my ancestors! It seems too easy to be true >. the relevance ofAppin Argyllshire is that the only Scottish document that >I have is the birth certificate of Anna Murray MACNEILL and it lists Appin >Argyllshire in the district of Bothwell in the county of Lanark. It gives >the date of Peter and Susans marriage as Sept,1883.There is another word >that I can't decipher-Faenaellich or Faenacloich?I do not know what that >refers to.The document states that Anna MACNEILL was born in >Calderbraes,near Uddingston.It also gives the occupation of Peter >as"Sawyer".Do you know what that means? > >Do you think from this further documentation that these facts fit with what >you have sent me? I really do appreciate your help and knowledge. Susan >-----Original Message----- >From: Ken Mathieson <ken@kenmath.free-online.co.uk> >To: WGW-SURNAMES-SCOTLAND-L@rootsweb.com ><WGW-SURNAMES-SCOTLAND-L@rootsweb.com> >Date: Monday, April 16, 2001 6:14 PM >Subject: Re: info > > >>Hi, >>What is the relevance of Appin, Argyll? Uddingston lies about 10 mile east >>of Glasgow on the river Clyde in the Parish of Bothwell, while Appin is a >>village on the east shore of Loch Linnhe, about 120 mile north west of >>Glasgow. I've checked the 1881 census and there was a Susan Murray aged 21, >>born Stranraer, Wigtownshire abt 1860 working as a nurse/domestic servant >at >>Wingfield, Bothwell in the home of Edmund Bell and his family. There was >>also a Peter MacNeill at the Clyde Hotel, Bothwell, son of the owner, Janet >>McBride. Peter was aged 23, unmarried, occupation Spirit Merchant, born >>Sandbank, Argyll (5 miles north of Dunoon on the Holy Loch - part of the >>DFirth of Clyde). If this the right man, there is quite a tribe of siblings >>and step-siblings (Janet McBride had obviously married at least twice). Are >>these your people? >> >>Regards, >>Ken Mathieson, >>Uddingston. Lanarkshire >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Chip & Susan Belyea <rbelyea@shentel.net> >>To: WGW-SURNAMES-SCOTLAND-L@rootsweb.com >><WGW-SURNAMES-SCOTLAND-L@rootsweb.com> >>Date: 16 April 2001 05:17 >>Subject: info >> >> >>>This is my very first attempt to research my family ancestors in the >>Uddingston area of Scotland.I am unsure if this is even the correct way to >>use this.I am looking for inf. on Peter MacNeill and Susan Murray who were >>married in 1883, Sept 25th, in the district of Bothwell.(Appen >Argyllshire). >>> >>>I would appreciate any guidance in finding this inf.. They emigrated to >the >>united States sometime around 1910.If I am using this mode >>incorrectly,please advise me. Thank you Rbelyea@shentel.net >>> >>> >> > >

Dear Ken I can't thank you enough for your help.My Uncles and Aunt who are the children of Anna Murray MACNEILL Kelley and the grandchildren of Susan and Peter MACNEILL are coming to Scotland in June to see where they came from as it is their first trip to where their Mom spent the first 16 years of her life before coming to Pa, USA.. It will be very exciting for them.I inadvertently confused you and myself! on all the places that I told you. After speaking with my Uncle and Sister last night this is how the story goes(I hope).The doucument is the birth certificate of Anna MACNEILL ,the daughter of Susan and Peter MACNEILL.The reference to Fasnacloich Appin Argyllshire is where Peter and Susan got married on Sept25,1883.Then the district of Bothwell and the county of Lanark as well asCalderbraes refer to the place of birth. Does this make any more sense to you? I wonder if I could ask you how I would go about getting a copy of their marriage certificate and I am assuming that what you found in the 1881 census must be correct as there were no more people by those names,Correct? Susan and Peter Macneill also had a son. Alex-born in1887,a daughter Jessie who did not emmigrate to the USA but died and is buried there in the Glasgow region ,a daughter Catherine who died at Ellis Island in NYC of tuberculosis and a daughter Nellie. Jessie has a living son,Bill LEITCH who lives in Glasgow(somewhere).I can't thank you enough for all your kind help. If there is anything that I can do for you,please let me know. Sincerely, Susan. I anxiously await your response. -----Original Message----- From: Ken Mathieson <ken@kenmath.free-online.co.uk> To: WGW-SURNAMES-SCOTLAND-L@rootsweb.com <WGW-SURNAMES-SCOTLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 8:00 PM Subject: Re: info >Hi Susan, >>From where I'm sitting I can look out ofmy window and see Calderbraes, >Uddingston (except it's dark just now!) about 3/4 of a mile away. I'm a bit >puzzled by the document which you state lists Appin Argyllshire in Bothwell, >Lanarkshire. This can't be: They're about 130 miles apart: Appin north of >Oban and Bothwell east of Glasgow. The place name you can't make out is >Fasnacloich, which is a very small hamlet in Glen Creran about a mile inland >from the head of Loch Creran, which is a loch on the east side of Loch >Linnhe about 20 miles north of Oban. One of the James Bond movies had its >opening sequence shot at the narrows of Loch Creran where a helicopter is >following a car along the lochside road. I know the area very well: It was a >favourite camping spot for years.The area is unbelievably beautiful , >especially towards the end of May when the gorse blooms bright yellow >against the most vivid green of the new grass and leaves. > >A sawyer was simply someone who sawed wood, either in timber felling, or the >dressing/cutting of felled timber. > >I hope this helps, > >regards, >Ken Mathieson, >Uddingston, Lanarkshire > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Chip & Susan Belyea <rbelyea@shentel.net> >To: WGW-SURNAMES-SCOTLAND-L@rootsweb.com ><WGW-SURNAMES-SCOTLAND-L@rootsweb.com> >Date: 16 April 2001 23:43 >Subject: Re: info > > >>Gosh, I think that you have found my ancestors! It seems too easy to be >true >>. the relevance ofAppin Argyllshire is that the only Scottish document that >>I have is the birth certificate of Anna Murray MACNEILL and it lists Appin >>Argyllshire in the district of Bothwell in the county of Lanark. It gives >>the date of Peter and Susans marriage as Sept,1883.There is another word >>that I can't decipher-Faenaellich or Faenacloich?I do not know what that >>refers to.The document states that Anna MACNEILL was born in >>Calderbraes,near Uddingston.It also gives the occupation of Peter >>as"Sawyer".Do you know what that means? >> >>Do you think from this further documentation that these facts fit with what >>you have sent me? I really do appreciate your help and knowledge. Susan >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Ken Mathieson <ken@kenmath.free-online.co.uk> >>To: WGW-SURNAMES-SCOTLAND-L@rootsweb.com >><WGW-SURNAMES-SCOTLAND-L@rootsweb.com> >>Date: Monday, April 16, 2001 6:14 PM >>Subject: Re: info >> >> >>>Hi, >>>What is the relevance of Appin, Argyll? Uddingston lies about 10 mile east >>>of Glasgow on the river Clyde in the Parish of Bothwell, while Appin is a >>>village on the east shore of Loch Linnhe, about 120 mile north west of >>>Glasgow. I've checked the 1881 census and there was a Susan Murray aged >21, >>>born Stranraer, Wigtownshire abt 1860 working as a nurse/domestic servant >>at >>>Wingfield, Bothwell in the home of Edmund Bell and his family. There was >>>also a Peter MacNeill at the Clyde Hotel, Bothwell, son of the owner, >Janet >>>McBride. Peter was aged 23, unmarried, occupation Spirit Merchant, born >>>Sandbank, Argyll (5 miles north of Dunoon on the Holy Loch - part of the >>>DFirth of Clyde). If this the right man, there is quite a tribe of >siblings >>>and step-siblings (Janet McBride had obviously married at least twice). >Are >>>these your people? >>> >>>Regards, >>>Ken Mathieson, >>>Uddingston. Lanarkshire >>> >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: Chip & Susan Belyea <rbelyea@shentel.net> >>>To: WGW-SURNAMES-SCOTLAND-L@rootsweb.com >>><WGW-SURNAMES-SCOTLAND-L@rootsweb.com> >>>Date: 16 April 2001 05:17 >>>Subject: info >>> >>> >>>>This is my very first attempt to research my family ancestors in the >>>Uddingston area of Scotland.I am unsure if this is even the correct way to >>>use this.I am looking for inf. on Peter MacNeill and Susan Murray who were >>>married in 1883, Sept 25th, in the district of Bothwell.(Appen >>Argyllshire). >>>> >>>>I would appreciate any guidance in finding this inf.. They emigrated to >>the >>>united States sometime around 1910.If I am using this mode >>>incorrectly,please advise me. Thank you Rbelyea@shentel.net >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >

Hi Listers, I am researching the surname STURROCK of Forfar (Angus County) Scotland. I wish to know if anyone may be able to help me? My grgrandparents WILLIAM STURROCK b. 24 Nov. 1856, son of CHARLES STURROCK and JANE ALEXANDER, m. CHRISTINA WALKLER b. 7 July 1857, dau. of DAVID WALKER and ANN MILLER (MILLAR) I know they had at least two sons born in Scotland: CHARLES b. 1880 and William b. 1881 before they came to USA. They lived in Forfar. Is that located in the highlands or lowlands of Scotland? Any help will be appreciated. Thanks! Louise in Indiana

Hi, What is the relevance of Appin, Argyll? Uddingston lies about 10 mile east of Glasgow on the river Clyde in the Parish of Bothwell, while Appin is a village on the east shore of Loch Linnhe, about 120 mile north west of Glasgow. I've checked the 1881 census and there was a Susan Murray aged 21, born Stranraer, Wigtownshire abt 1860 working as a nurse/domestic servant at Wingfield, Bothwell in the home of Edmund Bell and his family. There was also a Peter MacNeill at the Clyde Hotel, Bothwell, son of the owner, Janet McBride. Peter was aged 23, unmarried, occupation Spirit Merchant, born Sandbank, Argyll (5 miles north of Dunoon on the Holy Loch - part of the DFirth of Clyde). If this the right man, there is quite a tribe of siblings and step-siblings (Janet McBride had obviously married at least twice). Are these your people? Regards, Ken Mathieson, Uddingston. Lanarkshire -----Original Message----- From: Chip & Susan Belyea <rbelyea@shentel.net> To: WGW-SURNAMES-SCOTLAND-L@rootsweb.com <WGW-SURNAMES-SCOTLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Date: 16 April 2001 05:17 Subject: info >This is my very first attempt to research my family ancestors in the Uddingston area of Scotland.I am unsure if this is even the correct way to use this.I am looking for inf. on Peter MacNeill and Susan Murray who were married in 1883, Sept 25th, in the district of Bothwell.(Appen Argyllshire). > >I would appreciate any guidance in finding this inf.. They emigrated to the united States sometime around 1910.If I am using this mode incorrectly,please advise me. Thank you Rbelyea@shentel.net > >

I am looking for some kind of birth or census information for the couple listed below. The following obituaries were from New Brunswick, Canada. Margaret's maiden name was MORRIS. I don't have a clue where in Argylshire they were born, but Alexander's birth was around 1800 and Margaret's birth around 1806. d. 29 September 1877 Lake George, Prince William (York Co.) Thursday 19th inst., Alexander MOODY, native of Argylshire, Scotland, 77th year. d.11 June 1885 Lake George, Prince William (York Co.) 6th inst., Margaret MOODY relict of Alexander MOODY, 79th year. Deceased was a native of Argyleshire, Scotland. Thanks for any help, Priscilla

Dear Susan , If you want to obtain a death record go to the state vital records and you can order them from them <A HREF="http://daddezio.com/records/">the records room for vital records</A> i find them to be inexpensie to buy you just need to know the date of death and thier name and who thier parents are if known . http://daddezio.com/records/ if the link dont work here is the address to them hope this helps. Tina

Hi, Sue, The gravestone is in St. John's Roman Catholic cemetary on Bedford street in Johnstown,Pa.Dates on the headstone and names:Peter MACNEILL 1862-1946,SusanMACNEILL 1860-1929,Daughter Catherine 1885-1920(She died on Ellis Island),Son Alex1887-1958. SGT.339th SV(U).BN.QMC.WW 1 Thanks. I got another lead from a gentleman in Scotland but I am not sure they are the same family because there are so many places between what little info I have and what he has. Anxious to hear from you. -----Original Message----- From: suezeaken@juno.com <suezeaken@juno.com> To: WGW-SURNAMES-SCOTLAND-L@rootsweb.com <WGW-SURNAMES-SCOTLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, April 16, 2001 6:22 PM Subject: Re: info >Where's the grave stone, what cemetery? This will help me look further. >Sue > >On Mon, 16 Apr 2001 09:47:23 -0400 "Chip & Susan Belyea" ><rbelyea@shentel.net> writes: >> Hello, >> >> Thanks for the response. They lived in Johnstown Pa.and we have >> actually >> seen their gravestone at a cemeteThanks for any help. Susanry >> there. >> -----Original Message----- >> From: suezeaken@juno.com <suezeaken@juno.com> >> To: WGW-SURNAMES-SCOTLAND-L@rootsweb.com >> <WGW-SURNAMES-SCOTLAND-L@rootsweb.com> >> Date: Monday, April 16, 2001 2:04 AM >> Subject: Re: info >> >> >> >Where in the US, what state, and city? Would be easier to lookup >> for >> >you, Sincerely, Sue >> > >> >On Mon, 16 Apr 2001 00:23:04 -0400 "Chip & Susan Belyea" >> ><rbelyea@shentel.net> writes: >> >> This is my very first attempt to research my family ancestors in >> the >> >> Uddingston area of Scotland.I am unsure if this is even the >> correct >> >> way to use this.I am looking for inf. on Peter MacNeill and >> Susan >> >> Murray who were married in 1883, Sept 25th, in the district of >> >> Bothwell.(Appen Argyllshire). >> >> >> >> I would appreciate any guidance in finding this inf.. They >> emigrated >> >> to the united States sometime around 1910.If I am using this >> mode >> >> incorrectly,please advise me. Thank you Rbelyea@shentel.net >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >

Gosh, I think that you have found my ancestors! It seems too easy to be true . the relevance ofAppin Argyllshire is that the only Scottish document that I have is the birth certificate of Anna Murray MACNEILL and it lists Appin Argyllshire in the district of Bothwell in the county of Lanark. It gives the date of Peter and Susans marriage as Sept,1883.There is another word that I can't decipher-Faenaellich or Faenacloich?I do not know what that refers to.The document states that Anna MACNEILL was born in Calderbraes,near Uddingston.It also gives the occupation of Peter as"Sawyer".Do you know what that means? Do you think from this further documentation that these facts fit with what you have sent me? I really do appreciate your help and knowledge. Susan -----Original Message----- From: Ken Mathieson <ken@kenmath.free-online.co.uk> To: WGW-SURNAMES-SCOTLAND-L@rootsweb.com <WGW-SURNAMES-SCOTLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, April 16, 2001 6:14 PM Subject: Re: info >Hi, >What is the relevance of Appin, Argyll? Uddingston lies about 10 mile east >of Glasgow on the river Clyde in the Parish of Bothwell, while Appin is a >village on the east shore of Loch Linnhe, about 120 mile north west of >Glasgow. I've checked the 1881 census and there was a Susan Murray aged 21, >born Stranraer, Wigtownshire abt 1860 working as a nurse/domestic servant at >Wingfield, Bothwell in the home of Edmund Bell and his family. There was >also a Peter MacNeill at the Clyde Hotel, Bothwell, son of the owner, Janet >McBride. Peter was aged 23, unmarried, occupation Spirit Merchant, born >Sandbank, Argyll (5 miles north of Dunoon on the Holy Loch - part of the >DFirth of Clyde). If this the right man, there is quite a tribe of siblings >and step-siblings (Janet McBride had obviously married at least twice). Are >these your people? > >Regards, >Ken Mathieson, >Uddingston. Lanarkshire > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Chip & Susan Belyea <rbelyea@shentel.net> >To: WGW-SURNAMES-SCOTLAND-L@rootsweb.com ><WGW-SURNAMES-SCOTLAND-L@rootsweb.com> >Date: 16 April 2001 05:17 >Subject: info > > >>This is my very first attempt to research my family ancestors in the >Uddingston area of Scotland.I am unsure if this is even the correct way to >use this.I am looking for inf. on Peter MacNeill and Susan Murray who were >married in 1883, Sept 25th, in the district of Bothwell.(Appen Argyllshire). >> >>I would appreciate any guidance in finding this inf.. They emigrated to the >united States sometime around 1910.If I am using this mode >incorrectly,please advise me. Thank you Rbelyea@shentel.net >> >> >