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    1. ~Jane Gordon ~ John Gordon McComb~
    2. Hello listers I am searching for any McComb~Gordon information. Anytime from Scotland 1600s, all the way through a John Gordon McComb, wife Jane Gordon em. to US in 1755 (This John Gordon McComb is my "7th grandfathers cousin"). We ventured from Scotland off into Antrim Ireland somewhere between the years 1619 and 1710 (the life span of my 10th grandfather, 91 years old ), most likely 1680. They lived at Dunturkey, Ballymere, Parish of Ballymere Co. Antrim, 12 miles N. of Belfast on a farm rented from town. His son (my 9th grandfather) was a Linen draper also born in Scotland. My line was on U.S. land by 1732.(this is before there was a U.S. president) We came in through Delaware Maryland, had a brief stay in N.Y. then branched around to Cumberland Co. Pa, Derry Pa, Middle Spring Pa, and Lancaster Co., also whats known now as Jefferson County, NY. and some other areas. There were 7 brothers plus their father (my 8th grandfather) that came initially. History has confirmed 4 of them in America, my line included. Some McComb changed the spelling to Macomb, and later McComb(s) in some cases. Some went to Chicago and Canada, and some other areas. John Gordon McComb,b.1717 d. after 1796,m.Jane Gordon,children:Alexander,William,Anne, em.abt 1755.Settled in Albany N.Y. Jane Gordon is second cousin to Gen. James Gordon.His family originaly from Scotland, he is the son of Alexander Gordon m.Martha----------. Gen.James Gordon m. Mary Ball in Ballston NY.His sister (another Jane Gordon) married a George Scott the 4th. George Scotts family em. from Dumfries Scottland to Drumenagh, Co. Londonderry Ireland early 16th century. Anyone researching these lines please contact me.See below for sources. ~J.McComb-S.California-Researching Clan MacKintosh and Clan Chattan~ Sources: >1."The Macomb~McComb Family Record", by Henry Alexander Macomb, c. 1917. ~compiled from various family records~ >2."The Navare Family Genealogy." >3."A Genealogical Register of the McComb Family in America", by Peter Hathaway Kemper McComb, c. 1912~ compiled by various family records 3.>~Hackett~Robby~Moon Family by, V.M. McComb Cumberland Valley~H.Stuart >~Middle Springs Yard~B.Mc Swope >~ Personal notes~Mrs.H.A. Collingwood, James F. McComb. Patterson >~ Records,Captain Ira Atens records, etc. >~Family data from bibles, letters, reminiscences, and obituaries. >~Copies of church minutes >~ The John McComb Family History >4."Memoir of the Families of McCombie and Thoms"W.M. Smith >5."History of the Lands and their owners of Galloway"PH M'Kerlie >6."MacKintosh Muniments"Paton >7."History of the Clan MacKintosh and Clan Chattan, A.M. MacKintosh" >8. The MacThomas"Cockstane Journals"R.F Pye

    05/04/2001 01:31:43
    1. McLerie
    2. Harold Nordstrom
    3. Dear List, GG/Father John McLerie b 30 Oct 1841 given as born in Paisley. married Jessie Brown of Perth b 13 April 1842 at St.James Bermondsey.county of Surrey 12 Feb 1866 both of full age.Cert 446 Page 223.They arrived in Brisbane.Queensland by ship Gauntlet 1873 with 3 children.on to Sydney 1894 Father was noted as Thomas McLerie a Journeyman Shoemaker mother as Mary Dolan. These details given in marriage certificate by son.Also given in Johns death certificate in Newtown Sydney 1913 Jessie died 1933. Camperdown Sydney. His son my G/Father Thomas John m Catherine Farrell 1895 went to Perth Western Australia as pioneers he was a Studio Photographer. An agent has not had any sucess looking at Parish records. I am interested enough to go further if some one can help.I am a Veteran Royal Australian Navy with British Fleet last War. Harold Nordstrom.at your service in Adelaide. South Austalia.

    05/04/2001 11:03:23
    1. Glass
    2. Marie Fromont
    3. Trying again for anyone also researching the above family. Alexander Glass,b abt 1824 Knockando,Moray,Scotland,wife:-Mary Murdoch,b abt 1826 in America(?place) Children Jane,b1849 William,b 1850 (married Mary Cameron) Mary,b 1852 Margaret,b abt 1856 John,b abt 1858 James.b abt 1860 Ann,b abt 1862 Alexander b abt 1864 Elizabeth b abt 1866. All these children were born Moyayshire,Scotland Thank you, Marie from New Zealand.

    05/04/2001 08:15:50
    1. Re: Glass
    2. Hi Marie: Perhaps you already know this. The following entry of a marriage of a couple with the name you noted about the right time is as follows from the LDS IGI web site which you can find at: http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=igi/search_IGI.asp Alexander GLASS Sex: M Marriage(s): Spouse: Mary MURDOCH Marriage: 16 Mar 1848 Bellie, Moray, Scotland Source Information: Batch number: Dates Source Call No. Type Printout Call No. Type M111264 1820-1854 0990987 Film 6902633 Film A 'parent search' shows these 10 children entries: You searched for: British Isles Father: Alexander Glass, Mother: Mary Murdoch Exact Spelling: Off [refine search] Prepare selected records for download Results: International Genealogical Index/British Isles (10 matches) Select records to download - (50 maximum) 1. Jane GLASS - International Genealogical Index Gender: F Birth: 1 May 1849 Bellie, Moray, Scotland 2. William GLASS - International Genealogical Index Gender: M Birth: 10 Jul 1850 Bellie, Moray, Scotland 3. Mary GLASS - International Genealogical Index Gender: F Birth: 21 Sep 1852 Bellie, Moray, Scotland 4. Margaret GLASS - International Genealogical Index Gender: F Birth: 16 May 1855 Bellie, Moray, Scotland 5. John GLASS - International Genealogical Index Gender: M Birth: 14 Jul 1857 Bellie, Moray, Scotland 6. James GLASS - International Genealogical Index Gender: M Birth: 16 Oct 1859 Bellie, Moray, Scotland 7. Anne GLASS - International Genealogical Index Gender: F Birth: 4 Jul 1861 Bellie, Moray, Scotland 8. Alexander GLASS - International Genealogical Index Gender: M Birth: 28 Jun 1863 Bellie, Moray, Scotland 9. Elizabeth GLASS - International Genealogical Index Gender: F Birth: 4 May 1865 Bellie, Moray, Scotland 10. Jessie GLASS - International Genealogical Index Gender: F Birth: 15 Jun 1869 Bellie, Moray, Scotland These entries show specific birth dates; and your list does not mention Jessie, the 10th listing above. I have an 1855 Scottish birth record for a relative and the amount of detail is quite extensive. Other years apparently do not give as much, so if you had to choose which one to spend your money on, that would be the best. Of course you can look at the microfilms quite cheaply at your local Family History Centre. If you could find the death records of your couple, you might find additional information that would help trace their parents. Good luck tracing your family. Allan Wands Toronto, Canada Marie Fromont wrote: > Trying again for anyone also researching the above family. > Alexander Glass,b abt 1824 Knockando,Moray,Scotland,wife:-Mary Murdoch,b abt > 1826 in America(?place) > Children Jane,b1849 William,b 1850 (married Mary Cameron) Mary,b 1852 > Margaret,b abt 1856 John,b abt 1858 > James.b abt 1860 Ann,b abt 1862 Alexander b abt 1864 Elizabeth b abt > 1866. All these children were born Moyayshire,Scotland Thank you, Marie > from New Zealand.

    05/03/2001 05:55:39
    1. ~McKcomb~Corkran~McComb~Corcran~McColm~Cochran~
    2. Hello listers Any "McComb(s)" out there associated with the Cochrane family, or visa versa?? Here are a couple of parishes in Galloway that I got off of another mailing list. It places some "McCombs" in Kirkmaiden and Stonykirk parishes - Balgowan- would be the street name. Both parishes are in Wigtownshire Galloway, the most southern tip of Scotland. List of Parishes:1684 Kirkmaiden - Balgowan - James Cochran, Kirkmaiden - Eldrick - William Corcran Kirkmaiden - Kilbrid - Fergus Cochran, Margret Corkran Kirkmaiden - Miln of Tarbilly - Hugh Cochran, Jean Cochran Kirkmaiden - Portnessock - Patrick Cochan, Elspit McColm, Margrat McComb, Margret McComb Kirkmaiden - Clonard - John McComb, James Mccomb, Janet McComb, James Mccomb Kirkmaiden - Corgie - Janet Corcran Kirkmaiden - Kairn - Margret Cochran, robert Corcran, Alexr. Corcran, Margrat cochran, Janet Corcran Kirkmaiden - Kildonan - Patt. Corcran, Robert corcran, Will Corcran, Alexr. Corcran Kirkmaiden - Cardrain - Georg McComb Kirkmaiden - Maryport - Jannet Corcran Kirkmaiden - Mickle Altoun - Margrat Corcran Kirkmaiden - Creichan - Jean McComb, Chirstin McCalme, Alexander McComb Kirkmaiden - Carngarm - Margrat McComb, Androw McComb Kirkmaiden - Achnacht - Janet McComb Kirkmaiden - Portincorkrie - Janet Corkran, Janet Cochron Stonykirk - Two Merk - Jean Cochran Stonykirk - Garthland - Wil. McKcomb, Jean McKcomb Stonykirk - Milne Arduall - Janet McKcomb, Alexr. McKcomb, Marg. McKComb, Will. McKComb Stonykirk - Killeaster - Alexr. cochran, And. Cochran, Arch. Cochran, Jean Cochran, Hewgh Cochran, Marg, Cochran, Marion McKcomb, Maron Cochran Stonykirk - Auchintibbert - Janet McKcomb I am also searching for any additional information McComb~Cochrane info, if anyone is holding any. Anytime from Scotland 1600s, all the way through a John McComb, wife Jane Cochrane, executed the Power of Attorney recorded at Trenton New. Jersey, Nov. 24 1746. (This John McComb is my "8th grandfathers brother"). We ventured from Scotland off into Antrim Ireland somewhere between the years 1619 and 1710 (the life span of my 10th grandfather, 91 years old ). They lived at Dunturkey, Ballymere, Parish of Ballymere Co. Antrim, 12 miles N. of Belfast on a farm rented from town. His son (my 9th grandfather) was a Linen draper also born in Scotland. We were on U.S. land by 1732.(this is before there was a U.S. president) We came in through Delaware Maryland, had a brief stay in N.Y. then branched around to Cumberland Co. Wa, Derry Pa, Middle Spring Pa, and Lancaster Co., also whats known now as Jefferson County, NY. and some other areas. There were 7 brothers plus (my 8th grandfather) that came initially. History has confirmed 4 of them in America, my line included. Some went to Chicago and Canada and changed the spelling to Macomb, and later McComb(s) in some cases. Im finally knocking on Scotland's front door." Any info is greatly appreciated, Im also researching Wallace and Gordon connections to the McComb family in Scotland and Ireland. See below for sources. ~J.McComb-S.California-Researching Clan MacKintosh and Clan Chattan~ John McCooam(MacCombie) b.1619 Scotland, m Margaret Wallace, em 1680,d.1710.Parish of Dinagore,Co.Antrim,Diocese of Connor.His son John McComb b.abt. 1650 Scot, Linen draper, lived at Dunturkey,Parrish of Ballymore,Co.Antrim,12 miles N. of Belfast, on farm rented from town d.1732.His son William McComb b.abt 1685 Ireland.m.------ daughter of Robert Wallace of Anni,Co.Monaghan,Ireland.Children:Isabell,Jean,John,Gordon,Robert + Mary.He d.1727,Ballyhone Co.Antrim,leaving children to care for his father. His son John Gordon McComb,b.1717 d. after 1796,m.Jane Gordon,children:Alexander,William,Anne, em.abt 1755.Settled in Albany N.Y. Sources: 1. Hackett~Robby~Moon Family by, V.M. McComb 2. Cumberland Valley~H.Stuart 3. Middle Springs Yard~B.Mc Swope 4. Personal notes~Mrs.H.A. Collingwood, James F. McComb. Patterson Records,Captain Ira Atens records, etc. 5. Family data from bibles, letters, reminiscences, and obituaries. 6 Copies of church minutes 7. The John McComb Family History 8. "The Macomb~McComb Family Record", by Henry Alexander Macomb, c. 1917. ~compiled from various family records~ 9. "A Genealogical Register of the McComb Family in America", by Peter Hathaway Kemper McComb, c. 1912~ compiled by various family records~ 10. "The Navare Family Genealogy." 11."Memoir of the Families of McCombie and Thoms"W.M. Smith 12."History of the Lands and their owners of Galloway"PH M'Kerlie 13."MacKintosh Muniments"Paton 14."History of the Clan MacKintosh and Clan Chattan, A.M. MacKintosh" 16. The MacThomas"Cockstane Journals"R.F Pye ~J.McComb-S.California-Researching Clan MacKintosh and Clan Chattan~

    05/03/2001 04:17:14
    1. Re: RENNIE- RENNEY.
    2. Diane Jameson & Elma Clamp
    3. I may have already sent you my skimpy info on Rennie, but here it is anyway. I haven't verified this Allan as being in my line yet. -- Diane Jameson, California William Allan b. abt 1790 & Margaret Rennie b. abt 1795 m. 5 Jul 1816, Liberton, Edinburgh, Scotland | Murray Rennie Allan | b. 12 Jun 1830, Liberton, Edinburgh, Scotland > From: Pmc248@cs.com > Reply-To: WGW-SURNAMES-SCOTLAND-L@rootsweb.com > Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 12:09:34 EDT > To: WGW-SURNAMES-SCOTLAND-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: RENNIE- RENNEY. > Resent-From: WGW-SURNAMES-SCOTLAND-L@rootsweb.com > Resent-Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 09:09:45 -0700 > > Hello Diane, > My Andrew RENNIE, born 1698 at Killen, Scotland, son of Andrew > RENNIE and Jean COWPER, left home at age 18yrs and went to Gateshead, County > Durham, N.E. England, where he promtly changed his name to RENNEY, married a > local? girl and started a family and a new life there.He was the start of my > Dad's , County Durham family, which is thriving still today. He was my 7X > Grandfather. It appears his brother and sister did not follow his lead, they > stayed in Angus and retained the RENNIE spelling. > Regards, Pam Renney McKinley at Mesa, Arizona. >

    05/03/2001 03:51:33
    1. Re: Magill and Irvin
    2. Diane Jameson & Elma Clamp
    3. Hi Chris, While in Ireland for the last two summers, I was told repeatedly that Co. Tyrone was the place to find Irwins. They did seem to be clumping there. If you look at the descendant chart below, you will see many Irwins immigrating to the U.S., especially to Lowell, Massachusetts. Many are buried in Edson Cemetery in Lowell. I know I have some information on the origin of the Irwine, Irwin name, but I cannot seem to find it at the moment. I do remember getting it as a result of an internet search. -- Diane Jameson, California Samuel Irwine b. 1802, Co. Donegal, Ireland d. 5 Sep 1880, Drumcannon, Co. Donegal, Ireland & Elizabeth Johnston b. 1812, Co. Donegal, Ireland d. 29 Dec 1893, Drumcannon, Co. Donegal, Ireland m. 1833, Co. Donegal, Ireland | Catherine Irwine | b. 1835, Drumcannon, Co. Donegal, Ireland | d. Strabane | & James Donaghy | b. abt 1830, Strabane | d. abt 1870, Strabane | m. abt 1860, Co. Donegal, Ireland | | James Donaghy | | d. bef 1939 | | Eliza Jane Donaghy | | d. bef 1939 | | Catherine Donaghy | | d. bef 1939 | | Martha Donaghy | | d. bef 1939 | | Samuel Donaghy | | d. aft 1939 | | Margaret Donaghy | | d. bef 1939 | | Nancy Donaghy | | d. aft 1939 | James Irwine | b. 1837, Drumcannon, Co. Donegal, Ireland | d. 20 Aug 1903, Govan, Scotland | & Nancy Annie Barr | b. 1846, Clonarel, Co. Donegal, Ireland | d. 13 Feb 1933, Lowell, Massachusetts | m. 10 Jun 1869, Drumcannon, Co. Donegal, Ireland | | Margaret Irwine | | b. 22 Nov 1873, Drumcannon, Co. Donegal, Ireland | | d. 12 Jul 1960, Dracut, Massachusetts | | & Avon Wallace Peasley | | b. 13 Nov 1879, East Bolton, Quebec, Canada | | d. 13 Jan 1959, Dracut, Mass | | m. 25 Nov 1903 | | Eliza Jane Irwine** | | b. 7 Apr 1870, Drumcannon, Co. Donegal, Ireland | | d. 7 Dec 1930, Govan, Scotland | | & Samuel Harper | | b. 17 Jan 1870, Carnadore, Castlefin, Lifford, County Donegal, Irelend | | d. 16 May 1931, Govan, Scotland | | m. 12 Dec 1901 | | Frances Irwine | | b. 27 Aug 1883, Drumcannon, Co. Donegal, Ireland | | d. 31 Mar 1966, Lowell, Massachusetts | | & Andrew Semple | | d. Co. Tyrone, Ireland | | m. 16 Nov 1921 | | Catherine Irwine | | & Rankin | | Annie Irwine | | b. 3 Jan 1889, Drumcannon, Co. Donegal, Ireland | | d. 24 Nov 1956, Huntington Park, California | | & John Robinson | | d. California | | m. 11 Aug 1909 | | Martha Irwine | | b. 8 Apr 1887, Drumcannon, Co. Donegal, Ireland | | d. Jul 1887, Drumcannon, Co. Donegal, Ireland | | Robert A. Irwine* | | b. 29 Sep 1871, Drumcannon, Co. Donegal, Ireland | | d. 12 Jun 1926, Lowell, Massachusetts | | & Mary A. McKee | | b. 14 Apr 1864 | | d. 17 Sep 1922 | | m. 5 Oct 1904 | | Robert A. Irwine* | | b. 29 Sep 1871, Drumcannon, Co. Donegal, Ireland | | d. 12 Jun 1926, Lowell, Massachusetts | | & Christina Knaggs Thompson | | b. Scotland | | d. abt 1927, New York or Washington | | m. 12 Jan 1923, Lowell, Massachusetts | | Samuel Irwine | | b. 16 Dec 1881, Drumcannon, Co. Donegal, Ireland | | d. 4 Mar 1945, Glasgow, Scotland | | & Mary Ann Houlihan | | m. 23 May 1911 | | Thomas Irwine | | b. 24 Apr 1877, Drumcannon, Co. Donegal, Ireland | | d. 5 Jul 1954, Govan, Scotland | | & Jean Clark | | William James Irwine | | b. Jan 1886, Drumcannon, Co. Donegal, Ireland | | d. 11 Aug 1916, Boston, Massachusetts | | & Margaret Ann Banford | | m. 14 Apr 1908 | | Catherine Irwine* | | b. 3 Mar 1879, Drumcannon, Co. Donegal, Ireland | | d. 18 Feb 1952, Glasgow, Scotland ? | | & Robert Sproule | | b. Ireland | | d. Castlederg, Northern Ireland | | Catherine Irwine* | | b. 3 Mar 1879, Drumcannon, Co. Donegal, Ireland | | d. 18 Feb 1952, Glasgow, Scotland ? | | & Robert Rankin | | Stillborn Irwine | | John McCullough Irwine | | b. 13 Apr 1891, Drumcannon, Co. Donegal, Ireland | | d. 18 Jan 1928, Somerville, Massachusetts | | & Harriet Dobson | | Mary Ellen Irwine | | b. 2 Feb 1894, Drumcannon, Co. Donegal, Ireland | | d. 29 Mar 1963, Lowell, Massachusetts | | & Gavin Holt | | m. 14 Aug 1912 | Martha Irwin | b. 1839, Drummcannon, County Donegal, Irelend | d. 14 Jun 1923, Carnadore, Castlefin, Lifford, County Donegal, Irelend | & John Harper | b. 1836, Co. Donegal, Ireland | d. 16 Jan 1916, Carnadore, Castlefinn, Co. Donegal, Ireland | m. 21 Dec 1865, Parish of Donaghmore, District of Stranorlar, Co. Donegal, Ireland | | Francis Harper | | b. 19 Nov 1866, Carnadore, Castlefin, Lifford, County Donegal, Irelend | | d. 3 Mar 1928, Scotland | | & Elizabeth Gentles | | b. abt 1880 | | d. 1920, Scotland | | m. 5 Feb 1904 | | Thomas Harper | | b. 20 Jan 1868, Carnadore, Castlefin, Lifford, County Donegal, Ireland | | d. ? Jan 1954 | | Samuel Harper** | | b. 17 Jan 1870, Carnadore, Castlefin, Lifford, County Donegal, Irelend | | d. 16 May 1931, Govan, Scotland | | & Eliza Jane Irwine | | b. 7 Apr 1870, Drumcannon, Co. Donegal, Ireland | | d. 7 Dec 1930, Govan, Scotland | | m. 12 Dec 1901 | | John James Harper | | b. 21 Mar 1872, Carnadore, Castlefin, Strabane, County Donegal, Irelend | | d. 7 Jan 1921 (see death certi.), Carnadore, Castlefin, Strabane, County Donegal, Irelend | | & Jane | | m. abt 1900, Co. Donegal, Ireland | | Eliza Jane Harper | | b. 7 Aug 1875, Co. Donegal, Ireland | | Hugh Harper | | b. 1 Dec 1878 | | d. abt 1930, Atlantic City, New Jersey | | Sarah Harper | | b. 22 Sep 1880, Co. Donegal, Ireland | | d. 23 May 1909, Carnadore, Castlefin, Strabane, Co. Donegal, Ireland | | Martha Harper | | b. 1 Aug 1881, Carnadore, Castlefin, Lifford, County Donegal, Irelend | | d. 1938, Boston, Massachusetts | | & James Mitchell | | b. 1884, Scotland | | d. 1935, Boston, Massachusetts | | Frances Margaret Harper | | b. 10 Jun 1884, Carnadore, Castlefin, Lifford, County Donegal, Irelend | | d. 4 Dec 1977, Massachusetts | | & Alexander L. Allan | | b. 31 Aug 1886 23:45, Leith South, Edinborough, Scotland | | d. 10 Apr 1952, South Whittier, Los Angeles Co., California | | m. 1916, Massachusetts | Samuel B. Irwin | b. 1842, Castlefin, Lifford, Co. Donegal, Ireland | d. 12 Jan 1916, Clonarrell, Gleneely, Stranorlar, Co. Donegal | & Nancy Nelson | b. 1839 | d. 4 Sep 1915, Clonarl, Gleneely, Stranorlar, Co. Donegal | m. 1873, Boston, Massachusetts | | Thomas Irwin | | b. 11 Apr 1874, Lowell, Massachusetts | | d. 27 Jul 1875, Lowell, Massachusetts | | Mary Irwin | | b. Jun 1878, Lowell, Massachusetts | | d. 27 Jul 1878, Lowell, Massachusetts | | Eliza Ann Irwin | | b. Jun 1878, Lowell, Massachusetts | | d. 29 Aug 1878, Lowell, Massachusetts | Thomas Irwin | b. 15 Dec 1844 | & Martha ³Mattie² Rule | b. abt 1845 | m. 29 Nov 1883 | Eliza Jane Irwin* | b. 1846, Castlefin, Lifford, Co. Donegal, Ireland | d. 17 Feb 1918, Collinsville, Dracut, Massachusetts | & Robert Long | b. abt 1826 | d. 9 Sep 1882, Clonarl, Co. Donegal, Ireland | m. 14 Mar 1878 | Eliza Jane Irwin* | b. 1846, Castlefin, Lifford, Co. Donegal, Ireland (Immigrated to Lowell, Mass. for several years) | d. 17 Feb 1918, Collinsville, Dracut, Massachusetts | & Francis ³Frank² Edwards | b. 15 Jul 1863, Somersetshire, England | d. 3 May 1939, Lowell, Massachusetts | m. 13 Aug 1890, Unity Chapel, 381 Dorchester Street, Boston, Massachusetts > From: "cwieland" <wielandec@neo.rr.com> > Reply-To: WGW-SURNAMES-SCOTLAND-L@rootsweb.com > Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 14:19:52 -0400 > To: WGW-SURNAMES-SCOTLAND-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: Magill and Irvin > Resent-From: WGW-SURNAMES-SCOTLAND-L@rootsweb.com > Resent-Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 11:19:52 -0700 > > Diane, > > Thanks for the email! Even lots of files on my computer don't prevent me > from losing messages. Sorry it's taken so long to respond. > > The only thing I know about the Irvin in my family is that her name was Mary > and she was born abt. 1797. She married my ggggrandfather, John Magill and > they lived in central Pennsylvania - around what is now Altoona. John was a > farmer. John's father, Rev. Hugh Magill, was born in Co. Down and preached > in Co. Tyrone. He was Presbyterian. As you can see, I know a lot more > about his side of the family than hers!!! > > Do you have any information on the origin of the Irvin name? > > Thanks for taking the time to respond to my email. > > Kind Regards, > Chris > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Diane Jameson & Elma Clamp <dianeelma@earthlink.net> > To: <WGW-SURNAMES-SCOTLAND-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 11:07 AM > Subject: Re: Magill and Irvin > > >> Hello Chris, >> I have a long line of Irwins (Irwine, Irvin, Irvine) from Co. Donegal and >> Co. Tyrone, Ireland. What do you have on Irvin? >> Diane Jameson >> -- >> >> >> ---------- >>> From: "cwieland" <wielandec@neo.rr.com> >>> To: WGW-SURNAMES-SCOTLAND-L@rootsweb.com >>> Subject: Magill and Irvin >>> Date: Apr, 10 2001, Tue, 7:41 AM >>> >> >>> Hi! >>> >>> I'm searching for information on the surnames Magill (sometimes spelled >>> McGill) and Irvin. My Magill ancestors were Scotch-Irish. I'm not sure > if >>> my Irvins were Scotch-Irish. >>> >>> Thanks. >>> Chris >>> >> >> >

    05/03/2001 03:37:01
    1. RE: MacDougall??
    2. Lynette Parker
    3. Thanks everyone for your help, I have just sent an email off requesting for more information on the birth certificate of my Grandfather William. I have asked for costs etc.... Many thanks guys Lynette ( in New Zealand)

    05/03/2001 03:04:53
    1. Re: Magill and Irvin
    2. John Brake
    3. P.H.Reaney "A Dictionary of British Surnames" ISBN 0 7100 8106 5 Gives Irvin, Irvine, Irving, Erving and Urvine as common with the earliest being Robert de Hirewyn 1226 Black. Also noted that there has been confusion with Erwin. Hanks & Hodges Oxford "Dictionary of Surnames" ISBN 0-19-211592-8 has quite a bit more information 1. Scots: Habitation name 2.English: Middle English roots. 3 Irish an Anglicized version of a Gaelic name. Also a very small entry in The Penguin "Diction of Surname by Basil Cottle. Hope this helps John >From: "cwieland" <wielandec@neo.rr.com> >Reply-To: WGW-SURNAMES-SCOTLAND-L@rootsweb.com >To: WGW-SURNAMES-SCOTLAND-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: Magill and Irvin >Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 14:19:52 -0400 > >Diane, > >Thanks for the email! Even lots of files on my computer don't prevent me >from losing messages. Sorry it's taken so long to respond. > >The only thing I know about the Irvin in my family is that her name was >Mary >and she was born abt. 1797. She married my ggggrandfather, John Magill and >they lived in central Pennsylvania - around what is now Altoona. John was >a >farmer. John's father, Rev. Hugh Magill, was born in Co. Down and preached >in Co. Tyrone. He was Presbyterian. As you can see, I know a lot more >about his side of the family than hers!!! > >Do you have any information on the origin of the Irvin name? > >Thanks for taking the time to respond to my email. > >Kind Regards, >Chris > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Diane Jameson & Elma Clamp <dianeelma@earthlink.net> >To: <WGW-SURNAMES-SCOTLAND-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 11:07 AM >Subject: Re: Magill and Irvin > > > > Hello Chris, > > I have a long line of Irwins (Irwine, Irvin, Irvine) from Co. Donegal >and > > Co. Tyrone, Ireland. What do you have on Irvin? > > Diane Jameson > > -- > > > > > > ---------- > > >From: "cwieland" <wielandec@neo.rr.com> > > >To: WGW-SURNAMES-SCOTLAND-L@rootsweb.com > > >Subject: Magill and Irvin > > >Date: Apr, 10 2001, Tue, 7:41 AM > > > > > > > > Hi! > > > > > > I'm searching for information on the surnames Magill (sometimes >spelled > > > McGill) and Irvin. My Magill ancestors were Scotch-Irish. I'm not >sure >if > > > my Irvins were Scotch-Irish. > > > > > > Thanks. > > > Chris > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

    05/03/2001 02:41:05
    1. Re: MacDougall?? [or McDOUGALD?]
    2. phil macdougall
    3. Noelle/Lynette There are MacDougalls out here but we have many spellings of the name and many places in which and from which to look! I am in Prince Edward Island, Canada, (East Coast) and I have a MacDougall family history which goes back to the late 1700's but I don't believe we have any identifiable mutual family members. My ancestors came from the Western Isles of Scotland as best I can cipher at this time although I have been yet unsuccessful at tracing the family back cross the Atlantic puddle. IF you by any chance find any link which takes your family lines to Eastern Canada please let me know and we'll try to help to make a clan connection. Best of luck in your quest. Phil MacDougall ----- Original Message ----- From: Kay Liney <kay@knockard.freeserve.co.uk> To: <WGW-SURNAMES-SCOTLAND-L> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 1:56 AM Subject: Re: MacDougall?? [or McDOUGALD?] > Lynette > If your grandfather William mcDougall was born in Scotland 1898 his > birth records will be safely in New Register House in Edinburgh. > Somerset House was where the English records were stored , and it was > the Irish records which were burned, not Scottish. > Noelle > This could be Mary Sheilds and Thomas Forbes in 1881 > Dwelling: No 84 Benhar Coal Coys Houses > Census Place: Shotts, Lanark, Scotland > Source: FHL Film 0203704 GRO Ref Volume 655-2 EnumDist 3 > Page 36 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > Thomas FORBES M 27 M Baillieston, Lanark, Scotland > Rel: Head > Occ: Iron Miner > Mary FORBES M 39 F Rawyards, Lanark, Scotland > Rel: Wife > Occ: Miners Wife > Charles HOOD (FORBES) 10 M Wishaw, Lanark, Scotland > Rel: Stepson > Occ: Scholar > Thomas FORBES 2 M Shotts, Lanark, Scotland > Rel: Son > Jessie FORBES 1 F Shotts, Lanark, Scotland > Rel: Daur > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Lynette Parker <Bagpipes@xtra.co.nz> > To: <WGW-SURNAMES-SCOTLAND-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: 02 May 2001 00:12 > Subject: Re: MacDougall?? [or McDOUGALD?] > > > > Hello Noelle > > > > I am sorry, I have very little information to go in regards to my > > Grandfather William MacDougall born in 1898. I do know his fathers > name > > was Donald William MacDougall and he married a Mary McNeil (of course > > the spelling of McNeil, could be McNeal or ????? ) My grandfather > came > > to New Zealand from Scotland and married my grandmother Margaret Alice > > Thompson I think roughly in the late 1920's to early 1930's. I never > > met my grandfather as he died before I was born. I was told his birth > > certificate was in Sommerset House in Scotland somewhere, but > apparently > > this was burnt down during WW1 or WW2. Any help would be terrific. > > > > Lynette > > > Hello Lynette, > > > > > > I have one that is earlier: > > > > > > McDougal(l) / McDougald, Mary > > > b. Abt. 1819, d. Aft. 1877 > > > mar. SHIELDS, George > > > b. Abt. 1815, d. Bef. 1877 > > > > > > Mary was born in Borrowstouness, West Lothian Co., Scotland. The > 1839 > > > marriage banns spell the name as McDougald. The spelling varies in > records. > > > > > > Their daughter, Mary B. (Bartam?) SHIELDS (1841-1908) is my > g-grandmother > > > through her second marriage to Thomas Peter Cameron FORBES > (1852-1914). > > > This couple emigrated to the United States in 1886, bringing my > grandfather > > > as a young boy. Mary B. SHIELDS was born in New Monkland, Lanark. > > > > > > I don't as yet have any further information about Mary McDOUGAL, but > of > > > course would love to find her parents and siblings, as well as > collateral > > > lines. > > > > > > Do you have any information other than b. date? > > > > > > --Noelle, in Ohio, USA > > > > > > At 09:59 AM 4/28/01 +0900, Lynette Parker wrote: > > > >Hi > > > > > > > >ARe there any MacDougalls out there??? I have tried for so long > for > > > >someone to help me track my grandfather down. He was born in > 1898 - > > > >near Glasgow, his name was William Aloyouis MacDougall - any, any > info > > > >would be great. > > > > > > > >Lynette ( from New Zealand) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ******************************************************** > > > Noelle Van Pulis > > > (aka Mrs. E. Garrison Walters) > > > Columbus, Ohio 43221 > > > vanpulis.1@osu.edu > > > > > > SURNAMES: > > > NJ and/or NY; some also in PA: > > > Eckhar(d)t, Garrigus/Garrigues, Garrison, > > > Hoffert, Huyler/Hiler, Keller, > > > Mase/Maize, Masters, Merritt, > > > Pennington, Post, Pulis/Pulisvelt, > > > Renner, Rolle, Rosenberg(er), > > > Storr/Stur(r), > > > VanClief/VanCleef/VanCleave, Vreeland, > > > Walters, Welch/Welsh, Witte > > > INDIANA: Meyer, Schrader, Steele, Vaughan > > > CANADA: Foote, Gordon, Kaiser, Prentiss > > > ENGLAND: Masters, Pennington > > > SCOTLAND: Cameron, Forbes, Gordon, Hood, McDougal(l), Shields > > > WALES: Colley, Williams > > > > > > > >

    05/02/2001 02:11:19
    1. Re: Magill and Irvin
    2. cwieland
    3. Diane, Thanks for the email! Even lots of files on my computer don't prevent me from losing messages. Sorry it's taken so long to respond. The only thing I know about the Irvin in my family is that her name was Mary and she was born abt. 1797. She married my ggggrandfather, John Magill and they lived in central Pennsylvania - around what is now Altoona. John was a farmer. John's father, Rev. Hugh Magill, was born in Co. Down and preached in Co. Tyrone. He was Presbyterian. As you can see, I know a lot more about his side of the family than hers!!! Do you have any information on the origin of the Irvin name? Thanks for taking the time to respond to my email. Kind Regards, Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: Diane Jameson & Elma Clamp <dianeelma@earthlink.net> To: <WGW-SURNAMES-SCOTLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 11:07 AM Subject: Re: Magill and Irvin > Hello Chris, > I have a long line of Irwins (Irwine, Irvin, Irvine) from Co. Donegal and > Co. Tyrone, Ireland. What do you have on Irvin? > Diane Jameson > -- > > > ---------- > >From: "cwieland" <wielandec@neo.rr.com> > >To: WGW-SURNAMES-SCOTLAND-L@rootsweb.com > >Subject: Magill and Irvin > >Date: Apr, 10 2001, Tue, 7:41 AM > > > > > Hi! > > > > I'm searching for information on the surnames Magill (sometimes spelled > > McGill) and Irvin. My Magill ancestors were Scotch-Irish. I'm not sure if > > my Irvins were Scotch-Irish. > > > > Thanks. > > Chris > > > >

    05/02/2001 08:19:52
    1. Re: RENNIE- RENNEY.
    2. Hello Diane, My Andrew RENNIE, born 1698 at Killen, Scotland, son of Andrew RENNIE and Jean COWPER, left home at age 18yrs and went to Gateshead, County Durham, N.E. England, where he promtly changed his name to RENNEY, married a local? girl and started a family and a new life there.He was the start of my Dad's , County Durham family, which is thriving still today. He was my 7X Grandfather. It appears his brother and sister did not follow his lead, they stayed in Angus and retained the RENNIE spelling. Regards, Pam Renney McKinley at Mesa, Arizona.

    05/02/2001 06:09:34
    1. STEWART North Berwick
    2. David Sparks
    3. I am looking for the parents of John Kinloch Stewart who was born somewhere around 1842 in North Berwick, East Lothian, John married a Mary Ann Begg at Kirriemuir, Angus, on 15 June 1866. Mary Ann Begg was born at Kirriemuir about 1848 to George and Mary Grant, and died 4 July 1908 in North Berwick. John died at North Berwick 12 Oct 1920. _______________ David J. Sparks Edmonton, Alberta Canada

    05/02/2001 04:30:20
    1. Re: MacDougall?? [or McDOUGALD?]
    2. Lynette Parker
    3. Hello Noelle I am sorry, I have very little information to go in regards to my Grandfather William MacDougall born in 1898. I do know his fathers name was Donald William MacDougall and he married a Mary McNeil (of course the spelling of McNeil, could be McNeal or ????? ) My grandfather came to New Zealand from Scotland and married my grandmother Margaret Alice Thompson I think roughly in the late 1920's to early 1930's. I never met my grandfather as he died before I was born. I was told his birth certificate was in Sommerset House in Scotland somewhere, but apparently this was burnt down during WW1 or WW2. Any help would be terrific. Lynette > Hello Lynette, > > I have one that is earlier: > > McDougal(l) / McDougald, Mary > b. Abt. 1819, d. Aft. 1877 > mar. SHIELDS, George > b. Abt. 1815, d. Bef. 1877 > > Mary was born in Borrowstouness, West Lothian Co., Scotland. The 1839 > marriage banns spell the name as McDougald. The spelling varies in records. > > Their daughter, Mary B. (Bartam?) SHIELDS (1841-1908) is my g-grandmother > through her second marriage to Thomas Peter Cameron FORBES (1852-1914). > This couple emigrated to the United States in 1886, bringing my grandfather > as a young boy. Mary B. SHIELDS was born in New Monkland, Lanark. > > I don't as yet have any further information about Mary McDOUGAL, but of > course would love to find her parents and siblings, as well as collateral > lines. > > Do you have any information other than b. date? > > --Noelle, in Ohio, USA > > At 09:59 AM 4/28/01 +0900, Lynette Parker wrote: > >Hi > > > >ARe there any MacDougalls out there??? I have tried for so long for > >someone to help me track my grandfather down. He was born in 1898 - > >near Glasgow, his name was William Aloyouis MacDougall - any, any info > >would be great. > > > >Lynette ( from New Zealand) > > > > > > > ******************************************************** > Noelle Van Pulis > (aka Mrs. E. Garrison Walters) > Columbus, Ohio 43221 > vanpulis.1@osu.edu > > SURNAMES: > NJ and/or NY; some also in PA: > Eckhar(d)t, Garrigus/Garrigues, Garrison, > Hoffert, Huyler/Hiler, Keller, > Mase/Maize, Masters, Merritt, > Pennington, Post, Pulis/Pulisvelt, > Renner, Rolle, Rosenberg(er), > Storr/Stur(r), > VanClief/VanCleef/VanCleave, Vreeland, > Walters, Welch/Welsh, Witte > INDIANA: Meyer, Schrader, Steele, Vaughan > CANADA: Foote, Gordon, Kaiser, Prentiss > ENGLAND: Masters, Pennington > SCOTLAND: Cameron, Forbes, Gordon, Hood, McDougal(l), Shields > WALES: Colley, Williams

    05/02/2001 02:12:38
    1. Re: RENNIE- RENNEY.
    2. Diane Jameson & Elma Clamp
    3. Pam, yes I am just getting started on the "Rennie" clan of Edinburgh. I will be visiting the family history center this evening specificially looking for Elizabeth Rennie. This is all I have so far: William Allan b. abt 1790 & Margaret Rennie b. abt 1795 m. 5 Jul 1816, Liberton, Edinburgh, Scotland | Murray Rennie Allan | b. 12 Jun 1830, Liberton, Edinburgh, Scotland --Diane Jameson, Researching Nova Scotia: Jameson, Johnson, Banks, Borgoine, Sanford Midlothian, Edinburgh, Scotland: Allan, Hair, Laing, Cuningham, Harper Glasgow, Scotland: Harper, Robertson, Hutchinson, McLean Co. Donegal, Co. Tyrone, Ireland: Harper, Irwing (Irwin, Erwin,Irwine,Irvine Irving), Johnston Australia: Harper, McCullum Massachusetts: Harper, Allan, Campbell, Mitchell > From: Pmc248@cs.com > Reply-To: WGW-SURNAMES-SCOTLAND-L@rootsweb.com > Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 02:35:32 EDT > To: WGW-SURNAMES-SCOTLAND-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: RENNIE- RENNEY. > Resent-From: WGW-SURNAMES-SCOTLAND-L@rootsweb.com > Resent-Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 23:35:37 -0700 > > Hello, > Have traced my RENNEY Family back to ANDREW RENNIE born 1675, at Killen, > Angus, and married to Jean COWPER [COOPER] born 1675, at Killen, Angus. Now I > am stuck. Is anyone else doing this family? Would like to find Andrew's and > Jean's parents and/or siblings.Have come too far to end up at a brick wall. > Any ideas?? > Regards, Pam Renney McKinley at Mesa, Arizona, via. > Aldershot, Hants, England. > Always looking for RENNIE / RENNEY. > > >

    05/02/2001 01:52:26
    1. Re: MacDougall?? [or McDOUGALD?]
    2. Kay Liney
    3. Lynette If your grandfather William mcDougall was born in Scotland 1898 his birth records will be safely in New Register House in Edinburgh. Somerset House was where the English records were stored , and it was the Irish records which were burned, not Scottish. Noelle This could be Mary Sheilds and Thomas Forbes in 1881 Dwelling: No 84 Benhar Coal Coys Houses Census Place: Shotts, Lanark, Scotland Source: FHL Film 0203704 GRO Ref Volume 655-2 EnumDist 3 Page 36 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Thomas FORBES M 27 M Baillieston, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Iron Miner Mary FORBES M 39 F Rawyards, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Wife Occ: Miners Wife Charles HOOD (FORBES) 10 M Wishaw, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Stepson Occ: Scholar Thomas FORBES 2 M Shotts, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Son Jessie FORBES 1 F Shotts, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Daur ----- Original Message ----- From: Lynette Parker <Bagpipes@xtra.co.nz> To: <WGW-SURNAMES-SCOTLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: 02 May 2001 00:12 Subject: Re: MacDougall?? [or McDOUGALD?] > Hello Noelle > > I am sorry, I have very little information to go in regards to my > Grandfather William MacDougall born in 1898. I do know his fathers name > was Donald William MacDougall and he married a Mary McNeil (of course > the spelling of McNeil, could be McNeal or ????? ) My grandfather came > to New Zealand from Scotland and married my grandmother Margaret Alice > Thompson I think roughly in the late 1920's to early 1930's. I never > met my grandfather as he died before I was born. I was told his birth > certificate was in Sommerset House in Scotland somewhere, but apparently > this was burnt down during WW1 or WW2. Any help would be terrific. > > Lynette > > Hello Lynette, > > > > I have one that is earlier: > > > > McDougal(l) / McDougald, Mary > > b. Abt. 1819, d. Aft. 1877 > > mar. SHIELDS, George > > b. Abt. 1815, d. Bef. 1877 > > > > Mary was born in Borrowstouness, West Lothian Co., Scotland. The 1839 > > marriage banns spell the name as McDougald. The spelling varies in records. > > > > Their daughter, Mary B. (Bartam?) SHIELDS (1841-1908) is my g-grandmother > > through her second marriage to Thomas Peter Cameron FORBES (1852-1914). > > This couple emigrated to the United States in 1886, bringing my grandfather > > as a young boy. Mary B. SHIELDS was born in New Monkland, Lanark. > > > > I don't as yet have any further information about Mary McDOUGAL, but of > > course would love to find her parents and siblings, as well as collateral > > lines. > > > > Do you have any information other than b. date? > > > > --Noelle, in Ohio, USA > > > > At 09:59 AM 4/28/01 +0900, Lynette Parker wrote: > > >Hi > > > > > >ARe there any MacDougalls out there??? I have tried for so long for > > >someone to help me track my grandfather down. He was born in 1898 - > > >near Glasgow, his name was William Aloyouis MacDougall - any, any info > > >would be great. > > > > > >Lynette ( from New Zealand) > > > > > > > > > > > ******************************************************** > > Noelle Van Pulis > > (aka Mrs. E. Garrison Walters) > > Columbus, Ohio 43221 > > vanpulis.1@osu.edu > > > > SURNAMES: > > NJ and/or NY; some also in PA: > > Eckhar(d)t, Garrigus/Garrigues, Garrison, > > Hoffert, Huyler/Hiler, Keller, > > Mase/Maize, Masters, Merritt, > > Pennington, Post, Pulis/Pulisvelt, > > Renner, Rolle, Rosenberg(er), > > Storr/Stur(r), > > VanClief/VanCleef/VanCleave, Vreeland, > > Walters, Welch/Welsh, Witte > > INDIANA: Meyer, Schrader, Steele, Vaughan > > CANADA: Foote, Gordon, Kaiser, Prentiss > > ENGLAND: Masters, Pennington > > SCOTLAND: Cameron, Forbes, Gordon, Hood, McDougal(l), Shields > > WALES: Colley, Williams > >

    05/01/2001 11:56:15
    1. RENNIE- RENNEY.
    2. Hello, Have traced my RENNEY Family back to ANDREW RENNIE born 1675, at Killen, Angus, and married to Jean COWPER [COOPER] born 1675, at Killen, Angus. Now I am stuck. Is anyone else doing this family? Would like to find Andrew's and Jean's parents and/or siblings.Have come too far to end up at a brick wall. Any ideas?? Regards, Pam Renney McKinley at Mesa, Arizona, via. Aldershot, Hants, England. Always looking for RENNIE / RENNEY.

    05/01/2001 08:35:32
    1. CRUMBIE / CROMBIE
    2. Joan McCarron
    3. Hello All, Since this surname is being discussed now, I'll mention my connection (by marriage.) Apparently the ancestor of my aunt's husband was a James CRUMBIE who left Scotland c1770 along with a sister. I don't know the sister's forename or married name. James went to the US (Philadelphia, PA) and the sister went to Nova Scotia, Canada. (I don't know if the sister was married at this time.) I know this is sketchy information for now but hoped someone (particularly in the US or Canada) might know of a connection. My family members are sending me more background so I'll be back when I know more. Thank you! Joan mccarron@ns.sympatico.ca 21 James Avenue Fall River, Nova Scotia Canada B2T 1H7

    05/01/2001 04:29:06
    1. Dodds family
    2. Jeff & Joan Smith
    3. Looking for parents and siblings of Mary Jane Dodds born 1813 Scotland [possibly Berwick] married to John Baptist in 1833 at Eccles, Berwickshire, emigrated to Ontario Canada about 1837 12 children. parents may have been Joseph Dods and Margaret Hay [according to LDS]. Any family connections would be appreciated... thanks in advance..... regards Joan

    04/30/2001 03:02:15
    1. BAPTIST family
    2. Jeff & Joan Smith
    3. Looking for relatives of 2 brothers from Coldstream, Berwickshire, Scotland John Baptist, Sr born 1811, married Mary Jane Dodds in 1833, emigrated to Ontario Canada 1837, 12 children. He was a miller by trade... In Canada he took up farming. George Baptist born 1808, emigrated to Quebec in 1832, married Isabella Cockburn about 1834, 8 children. He developed a large lumber mill business in Quebec. Believe they were brothers.. Would love to know who parents were and siblings... Thanks in advance for any info. regards.. Joan

    04/30/2001 02:56:10