I dont wish to point any fingers here and I guess the one person who will back me on what I am going to say it me old sparring mate Cyril. It is fine to say *isnt it time moves were made to close such places* I am using these words broadly simply because my experience is with another Heritage center and of course they are run on the same sort of rules. But ........... whilst moves could and should be made to close these places, who is going to make them, ?we on these lists only represent a small part of the family research world, and whilst people, continue to go there pay there fees and wait in line and time for several months ( should you be so lucky) Years is more the experience we have had, then of course these places will continue. Even when Councils, or trading practice places have been contacted, these Heritage places seem to walk away smelling of roses and leave work undone............and it will continue, petitions dont work, constant letters to the powers that be -do not work and of course you all know an email doesnt work. Even when you are lucky enough to turn the tables on them, in a small wee way, what do the offer you, Never a refund, but a few hours free lookups, where in fact you already paid for that service. No there is no way unless we get the whole researching world behind us to stop these sort of Heritage centers selling back to you, something that your ancestors have already paid for, be it in a meal or money to the priest or clergyman, to record in his books and registers for all time, your ancestors names....... Now we will still be paying many moons from now, for what I see as belonging to us by birth, and blood lines forever and a day. I understand a small fee for photo copying but I do not understand these over priced -prices sorry I have digressed from my original thought No there is not a lot to do or can be done to close these doors of these heritage centers.................. One thing they could learn though -------------an answer to an email goes a long way to making the sender feel better We been here before havent we Cyril? Cheers Cara

Now, Cara and I have locked horns many times over the years on certain issues! I'd say we are about 50-50 on the results scoreboard (I won't concede defeat to her!). But we are agreed on these Heritage Site issues! I personally think the problem stems from the fact that these "Heritage" places were thought of as a "Fast Buck Operation" and nothing else! The inception of the idea is good enough in itself (I'm not throwing Stones at Yola in particular), they are all as guilty as one another! The records were obtained by saying they were going to be copied and used "By the Heritage Centres" for genealogy purposes secure in the fact they would also be separate to the main Parish registers probably saying (in case of being damaged by fire etc.). I personally have not heard of one Parish having benefited financially from the subject (correct me if I'm wrong!). I would prefer to see the Parishes running their own voluntary service to the Communities whereby we could go in and transcribe all our Parish records (free of charge) and use the service to help the priests and the community by collecting any funds, for the benefit of our communities. My own parish Rathangan (along with others in the Diocese of Ferns), spend a lot of time (voluntary and paid) maintaining the graveyards and generally keeping our little villages clean and tidy. We have to pay contractors for some of the work and that money comes out of the pocket of donations made to the parish fund, some raised by local Community Raffles, donations from Local business' etc.. Unsung Heroes! Parish funds boosted by input from Genealogy researches would go a long way to the upkeep of the graveyards, Church etc.. Heritage Centres get away "Scot Free" and why? PARISH RECORDS ARE NOT COPYWRITE! They are Public Property! belonging to the residents of the Parish and their Ancestors. If you are not happy with Genealogy (Heritage) Centres tell them and walk away from them. They will soon get the message. I have no problem with them, I don't use them, I only get complaints about them! I would like to see them run by people actually interested in Genealogy though, people who would go out of their way to help you, rather than ignore you and just take your money. THIS IS NOT "JUST ABOUT YOLA" here. I actually wish them well, but, JUST GET YOUR ACT TOGETHER! The more information you give them, the more YOU, put into their records! You are feeding the animal with FREE information! What do those signs in the Zoo say ? "DO NOT FEED THE ANIMALS". Take HEED! slan Cyril Newsome Loch Garman ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cara_Links" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 1:40 PM Subject: Re: [WEX] extant on closure of Yola > I dont wish to point any fingers here and I guess the one person who will > back me on what I am going to say it me old sparring mate Cyril. > > It is fine to say *isnt it time moves were made to close such places* I am > using these words broadly simply because my experience is with another > Heritage center and of course they are run on the same sort of rules. > > But ........... whilst moves could and should be made to close these > places, who is going to make them, ?we on these lists only represent a small > part of the family research world, and whilst people, continue to go there > pay there fees and wait in line and time for several months ( should you be > so lucky) Years is more the experience we have had, then of course these > places will continue. > > Even when Councils, or trading practice places have been contacted, these > Heritage places seem to walk away smelling of roses and leave work > undone............and it will continue, petitions dont work, constant > letters to the powers that be -do not work and of course you all know an > email doesnt work. > > Even when you are lucky enough to turn the tables on them, in a small wee > way, what do the offer you, > Never a refund, but a few hours free lookups, where in fact you already > paid for that service. > > No there is no way unless we get the whole researching world behind us to > stop these sort of Heritage centers selling back to you, something that your > ancestors have already paid for, be it in a meal or money to the priest or > clergyman, to record in his books and registers for all time, your ancestors > names....... > > Now we will still be paying many moons from now, for what I see as > belonging to us by birth, and blood lines forever and a day. > > I understand a small fee for photo copying but I do not understand these > over priced -prices > sorry I have digressed from my original thought > No there is not a lot to do or can be done to close these doors of these > heritage centers.................. > One thing they could learn though -------------an answer to an email goes a > long way to making the sender feel better > > We been here before havent we Cyril? > > Cheers > Cara > > > > > > ==== WEXFORD Mailing List ==== > Wexford List Guidelines > > http://wexford-l.blogspot.com/ > > >