Thank you for this information Hilary (and all the help you have given on other topics). I have been searching for details of the imprisonment of my grandfather Tom Chapman and his brother Pat Chapman (from Busherstown). From the family I learned they was arrested in Easter 1916, he was imprisoned in the UK for 8/9 months, and was released Christmas 1916 at a port in the north of Ireland. I have been sent extracts from "The 1916 Handbook" which show he was sent to Stafford prison initially, but it also said his release was ordered in May/June (which does not tie in with the memory of his return at Christmas). I have also been told Seamus Swan's "two books" don't mention a Chapman at all. I presume the casualties you mention below refer to men who died, not those who were imprisoned but lived, so Richard Roche's book would then not be of any use to me. I have read "Wexford in the Rare Oul' Times" volumes 1, 2 and 3 so perhaps I need to read volume 4 if it gives an insight into what happened in Wexford in 1916, but again I presume it would not list names of those arrested and released? So I have found it hard to find details of his place of arrest, and his imprisonment from June 1916 to Christmas 1916. So perhaps I will have to wait until I am next in Ireland to see these papers. But even then I don't hold out much hope as my grandfather refused a medal and a pension as he said he fought for his country, not for money. Eileen in Sydney ----- Original Message ----- From: "hilary murphy" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 5:24 AM Subject: Re: [WEX] Police records > Greetings Kevin, > Spotted you email on the Wexford website. I rmember when I was a young > reporter on The Free Press in Wexford we published a list of surviving Old > IRA veterans of the War of Independence who were in receipt of military > service medals. That's the only official listing I'm aware of. Names of many > who were interned were published in the news columns of the local papers as > they were released at different times in 1918. Names of casualties are given > in Richard Roche's book "Here's Their Memory" published in 1966 - the 50th > anniversary of the Easter Rising in 1916. An account of the Civil War, from > the Republican side, was published by Sémus Mac Suain (Seamus Swan) in 1995. > Again it names casualties. > You might be interested to know, also, that the vol. 4 of the book "Wexford > in the Rare Oul' Times" deals with the 1914-18 War, the War of Independence > and Civil War. > > Let me know if I can be of any further help. Hope you keep well, > > Hilary > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kevin Byrne" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 4:34 PM > Subject: [WEX] Police records > > > > On the same subject, are the records of the Troubles and Civil War period > > available? I imagine that there will have been a lot of detail recorded > > as to relations and associates of persons under official notice - Kevin > > Byrne > > > > > > > > ==== WEXFORD Mailing List ==== > > DO NOT post virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political > > announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, etc. > > > > > > > ==== WEXFORD Mailing List ==== > DO NOT post virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, etc. > >

<<But even then I don't hold out much hope as my grandfather refused a medal and a pension as he said he fought for his country, not for money.>> Some of those eligible chose to get them, some not. The medals were not awarded until 1941. By then, memories had faded, lives had been lived. One of the reasons that prompted the Irish government to issue them was WWII (Or "The Emergency" as it was called there). A lot of Irish members of the British forces were returning showing off medals and Irish forces started receiving their own. This left the 1916 and Civil War crowd with nothing to show for what they did. -----Original Message----- From: E O'Leary [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 4:46 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [WEX] Police records Thank you for this information Hilary (and all the help you have given on other topics). I have been searching for details of the imprisonment of my grandfather Tom Chapman and his brother Pat Chapman (from Busherstown). From the family I learned they was arrested in Easter 1916, he was imprisoned in the UK for 8/9 months, and was released Christmas 1916 at a port in the north of Ireland. I have been sent extracts from "The 1916 Handbook" which show he was sent to Stafford prison initially, but it also said his release was ordered in May/June (which does not tie in with the memory of his return at Christmas). I have also been told Seamus Swan's "two books" don't mention a Chapman at all. I presume the casualties you mention below refer to men who died, not those who were imprisoned but lived, so Richard Roche's book would then not be of any use to me. I have read "Wexford in the Rare Oul' Times" volumes 1, 2 and 3 so perhaps I need to read volume 4 if it gives an insight into what happened in Wexford in 1916, but again I presume it would not list names of those arrested and released? So I have found it hard to find details of his place of arrest, and his imprisonment from June 1916 to Christmas 1916. So perhaps I will have to wait until I am next in Ireland to see these papers. But even then I don't hold out much hope as my grandfather refused a medal and a pension as he said he fought for his country, not for money. Eileen in Sydney ----- Original Message ----- From: "hilary murphy" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 5:24 AM Subject: Re: [WEX] Police records > Greetings Kevin, > Spotted you email on the Wexford website. I rmember when I was a young > reporter on The Free Press in Wexford we published a list of surviving Old > IRA veterans of the War of Independence who were in receipt of military > service medals. That's the only official listing I'm aware of. Names of many > who were interned were published in the news columns of the local papers as > they were released at different times in 1918. Names of casualties are given > in Richard Roche's book "Here's Their Memory" published in 1966 - the 50th > anniversary of the Easter Rising in 1916. An account of the Civil War, from > the Republican side, was published by Sémus Mac Suain (Seamus Swan) in 1995. > Again it names casualties. > You might be interested to know, also, that the vol. 4 of the book "Wexford > in the Rare Oul' Times" deals with the 1914-18 War, the War of Independence > and Civil War. > > Let me know if I can be of any further help. Hope you keep well, > > Hilary > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kevin Byrne" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 4:34 PM > Subject: [WEX] Police records > > > > On the same subject, are the records of the Troubles and Civil War period > > available? I imagine that there will have been a lot of detail recorded > > as to relations and associates of persons under official notice - Kevin > > Byrne > > > > > > > > ==== WEXFORD Mailing List ==== > > DO NOT post virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political > > announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, etc. > > > > > > > ==== WEXFORD Mailing List ==== > DO NOT post virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, etc. > > ______________________________