Passenger lists would be at the port of disembarkation But families in 1817 with farming background were leaving via New Ross for upper eastern Canada so it would be either Canada was calling out for people to work the land or giving land out .......... May be able to assist with 1817 folk - but some of the ancestors you seek would have also been from the first clearances off the Fitzwilliam estate and they did not keep as good a record of those as they did the second clearances. Cara

Also, young men were recruited by companies, such as the Newman Brothers to go to Newfoundland to prosecute the cod fishing industry. They would sing on for a period of time and return to Ireland, but later many stayed once they got there. For some, it seems to have been a good way to leave Ireland if you did not have the money to do so, and one didn't want to be an indentured servant. There is a part of Newfoundland called the Irish Circle, where many Irish settled, such as my family. Regarding ships lists, I was told when I was in Ireland, that if a young man left Ireland as part of a ship's crew, such as a ship's carpenter, he would not be on the standard ship's passenger list. Others probably left because of the unrest in Ireland, such as after the 1798 Vinegar Hill rebellion. For some, it was a good idea to leave Ireland, particularly if they had participated. Also, it is my understanding from visiting Ireland and reading Irish history that the Irish Catholics, for many years, were treated rather badly by the English, and it could have been a motivation for leaving Ireland. Because of their bad treatment in Ireland, my understanding is that many who went to Newfoundland went to the area of Newfoundland that had a concentration of French. Some made it to the "Boston States" as "two-boaters." In other words, some went to Newfoundland first, and then to New York or Boston. My g-g-grandfather was a two-boater, going from Ireland to St. John's, Newfoundland, and then to Prince Edward Island where he was hired to build a church. After that, he remained there. Earle -----Original Message----- From: Cara_Links [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 4:03 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [WEX] REASONS FOR LEAVING IRELAND Passenger lists would be at the port of disembarkation But families in 1817 with farming background were leaving via New Ross for upper eastern Canada so it would be either Canada was calling out for people to work the land or giving land out .......... May be able to assist with 1817 folk - but some of the ancestors you seek would have also been from the first clearances off the Fitzwilliam estate and they did not keep as good a record of those as they did the second clearances. Cara ==== WEXFORD Mailing List ==== DO NOT post virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, etc.